Sub7
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OK Guys,
I have been using IGF for 8 days now and wanted to give you an update. I have first experimented with 30 mcg split bilaterally on the muscles just worked and on my first day chest (where I had shot earlier that day) was more tense than usual. I also had some tension in the forearms but not much else to report.
Also, as an aside, IMO, I think this stuff shouldn't be mixed with BW if you are using just one syringe and shooting bilaterally. In a tiny insulin syringe, IGF+AA and BW will simply not mix properly in my opinion. I may be off here and osmosis may ensure that the two substances mix but as far as I can tell, the surface tension of the liquid is too large for gravity to overcome it and the liquid to move freely in a tiny 1/3 cc insulin syringe. If you just pull a few ticks worth of IGF+AA and then also pull BW on top of it, even if there is a tiny bubble of air in between the two solutions, they do not mix. You can see this very clearly if you look. If there is no bubble, still there appears to be basically no movement and mingling of liquids at all. Hence, if you pull a couple ticks of IGF+AA and then some BW on top of it and shoot half the mixture in your left biceps first, and then shoot the remaining mixture in your right biceps, your right arm will receive most of the IGF and your left arm will get mostly just water. This is my opinion and observation based on the very little I know about fluid mechanics, I may be off so please chime in...
By the way, after I observed the above and started shooting just plain IGF+AA (instead of cutting it with BW right before injection) I realized the pain was very very minimal. Absolutely nothing to worry about. May there still be necrosis? I don't know...
Anyway, after pecs I continued to shoot into biceps and calves and overall I got some pretty weird effects from this product. First, the biceps and calves didn't really have much of a tension from IGF (unlike chest). Again, I was using dosages between 30 mcg and 60 mcg (I tried a different dosage everytime to experiment) and never went as high as 100 mcg as some people do. Also, FYI, I have shot IGF everyday since I started, including off days. The only day I didn't shoot was when I used MGF instead as per Grunt's suggestions.
However, unlike Sikboy who reported a general sense of well being on this, I experienced the oppostie and am feeling nervous as well as jumpy. First, the muscle tension is more around the jaw and temple area -strange because with many other CNS stimulants and stuff that gives you lots of tension, these were not areas where I had tension. Also, after I shoot IGF, I am having some stomach cramps. It is again a very starnge situation as I never had this kind of stomach cramp before. It is not a severe cramp but my stomach kind of "squeezes" if that makes sense. The pain is not local to one are of the stomach but the entire organ feels tight. Also, I get cravings much more often. Plus I have strange headaches lately.
Now, could all this be hypoglcemia? Very possible because I am cutting right now and even though I have shakes followed by a good meal PWO I am still in a small caloric deficit (around 400 kcal). I must tell you about a very strange trait of mine, however before you can interpret these results: I can lift with almost no CHO for quite a while before I crash. I have had situations -many times- where I ate ZERO calories for 24 hours and went straight into the gym to lift. Still I did the exact same weight and exact same reps. Also, i experience ZERO rebound hypoglycemia. I can eat 200 grams of fructose or 200 grams of pure dextrose with nothing to slow absorption and feel nothing, absolutely nothing. As a teen, I ate 8-9 candy bars in an hour on multiple occasions and then, too, even at a weight of 140 lbs felt nothing. (I know these are not good ideas and there is long story behind each of these stunts...). So maybe I am going hypo but my symptoms are different due to my unusual biochemistry.
This is my story thus far. I will have quesitons soon but for now I wanted to thrown these in there.
I have been using IGF for 8 days now and wanted to give you an update. I have first experimented with 30 mcg split bilaterally on the muscles just worked and on my first day chest (where I had shot earlier that day) was more tense than usual. I also had some tension in the forearms but not much else to report.
Also, as an aside, IMO, I think this stuff shouldn't be mixed with BW if you are using just one syringe and shooting bilaterally. In a tiny insulin syringe, IGF+AA and BW will simply not mix properly in my opinion. I may be off here and osmosis may ensure that the two substances mix but as far as I can tell, the surface tension of the liquid is too large for gravity to overcome it and the liquid to move freely in a tiny 1/3 cc insulin syringe. If you just pull a few ticks worth of IGF+AA and then also pull BW on top of it, even if there is a tiny bubble of air in between the two solutions, they do not mix. You can see this very clearly if you look. If there is no bubble, still there appears to be basically no movement and mingling of liquids at all. Hence, if you pull a couple ticks of IGF+AA and then some BW on top of it and shoot half the mixture in your left biceps first, and then shoot the remaining mixture in your right biceps, your right arm will receive most of the IGF and your left arm will get mostly just water. This is my opinion and observation based on the very little I know about fluid mechanics, I may be off so please chime in...
By the way, after I observed the above and started shooting just plain IGF+AA (instead of cutting it with BW right before injection) I realized the pain was very very minimal. Absolutely nothing to worry about. May there still be necrosis? I don't know...
Anyway, after pecs I continued to shoot into biceps and calves and overall I got some pretty weird effects from this product. First, the biceps and calves didn't really have much of a tension from IGF (unlike chest). Again, I was using dosages between 30 mcg and 60 mcg (I tried a different dosage everytime to experiment) and never went as high as 100 mcg as some people do. Also, FYI, I have shot IGF everyday since I started, including off days. The only day I didn't shoot was when I used MGF instead as per Grunt's suggestions.
However, unlike Sikboy who reported a general sense of well being on this, I experienced the oppostie and am feeling nervous as well as jumpy. First, the muscle tension is more around the jaw and temple area -strange because with many other CNS stimulants and stuff that gives you lots of tension, these were not areas where I had tension. Also, after I shoot IGF, I am having some stomach cramps. It is again a very starnge situation as I never had this kind of stomach cramp before. It is not a severe cramp but my stomach kind of "squeezes" if that makes sense. The pain is not local to one are of the stomach but the entire organ feels tight. Also, I get cravings much more often. Plus I have strange headaches lately.
Now, could all this be hypoglcemia? Very possible because I am cutting right now and even though I have shakes followed by a good meal PWO I am still in a small caloric deficit (around 400 kcal). I must tell you about a very strange trait of mine, however before you can interpret these results: I can lift with almost no CHO for quite a while before I crash. I have had situations -many times- where I ate ZERO calories for 24 hours and went straight into the gym to lift. Still I did the exact same weight and exact same reps. Also, i experience ZERO rebound hypoglycemia. I can eat 200 grams of fructose or 200 grams of pure dextrose with nothing to slow absorption and feel nothing, absolutely nothing. As a teen, I ate 8-9 candy bars in an hour on multiple occasions and then, too, even at a weight of 140 lbs felt nothing. (I know these are not good ideas and there is long story behind each of these stunts...). So maybe I am going hypo but my symptoms are different due to my unusual biochemistry.
This is my story thus far. I will have quesitons soon but for now I wanted to thrown these in there.
