Dustin07
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YES! Thank you! that's what I've been trying to communicate and doing so poorly
That right there is hitting the nail on the head.
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YES! Thank you! that's what I've been trying to communicate and doing so poorly
That right there is hitting the nail on the head.
gphagan1
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Hyde
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Dude my wife is so much faster than me, but my stepdaughter who is same height as wife is even faster (and she’s about 115lbs). I wonder if it’s a matter of having less muscle mass tightening her up, but they can just dust me at the mall & she can pull ahead of my wife no problem.
I am pretty comfy at 3mph but am about topped out at 3.4mph treadmill walk on just a 3.5 incline.
Resolve10
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Honestly this went about how I expected. I don't want to turn this into a back and forth so I'll back out after this.
This is more of a philosophical difference so I'm fine not agreeing here on that though. I probably can't explain it well enough without taking awhile and going well beyond what anyone probably wants in this log.
Completely missing my point.
Idk why you think my critique of it giving you false information has any relevance on advancing technology, I try to keep my posts centered on training and nutrition since I hope people on a board for that at least have general understandings or desires for those things, I'd rather not waste my time discussing other subjects that I'll have less chance of being in line with feeling I may have a similar starting point of understanding on.
Maybe I'm just lucky I've never had issue finding my old training information the way I've done it all these years (and again was not even my point that I was pointing out), I'm sure I'll have other things to adapt to my approach (as always), but that is totally missing my point here.
Yup.
Ok so then this just leaves us at divergent paths. I don't see that as a positive. I'd rather not coach my own coach. You could find a real person to coach (or mentor if looking to teach someone else more than receive feedback from) and a true good coaching relationship does have give and take, back and forth, and learning from both to each-other, but I place importance in different areas than you seem to for these purposes.
Everyone values their time and resources differently, I really just was trying to highlight that you were receiving a lot of bad information so that others (since you don't seem to mind I guess) would be more cautious. As usual the core concept of my complaint I still don't think has been seen and I am unsure it will (Hyde seems to be on a pretty similar wavelength though), which honestly I am not surprised by (yet again). I did get some insight though.
This is quite close to my point.
I only didn't do specifics because I figured they'd be ignored (but now seeing how quickly it abandons them good thing I didn't waste my time).
??? Cool just admitting to making stuff up.
Things it layered on that it is already walking back.
Seems like a lot of extra work.
My point is what is the point of using this if it is so confidently wrong, you don't know when it is wrong, then it immediately is all "ya bro I made that up" and you still want to follow it. Maybe I'm just dense, but doesn't seem like productive use of my time.
I don't feel in agreement. If I had a person tell me the things it told you I'd not ask them for advice anymore. More so because it can't explain why behind those well (lies) or backtracks as soon as confronted.
I'm fully ready for this to be way beyond the scope I'd be able to cover here, but anyways. This is just a general "human" problem and the need for stories or in how we structure our thinking. People always want all these specifics for "why" this happened or if only they plug in enough data they'll figure "this out", etc etc etc. This is a trap a lot of people fall into because they want control, but while I think there is value in finding trends too often people think they can solve these and it just turns into an endless optimization spiral that doesn't really matter. It can be hard to fully elaborate on without some key points of underlying agreement and understanding, but generally its a problem I've had with how people in the fitness space arrive at conclusions, got sped up with the blog era, then the influencer era, and now just seeing it again using similar justifications as people use these things to help their conclusions. It isn't just in fitness and more is a fundamental orientation of thinking though, that is just where I spend most of my "time".
This is more of a philosophical difference so I'm fine not agreeing here on that though. I probably can't explain it well enough without taking awhile and going well beyond what anyone probably wants in this log.
Completely missing my point.
Idk why you think my critique of it giving you false information has any relevance on advancing technology, I try to keep my posts centered on training and nutrition since I hope people on a board for that at least have general understandings or desires for those things, I'd rather not waste my time discussing other subjects that I'll have less chance of being in line with feeling I may have a similar starting point of understanding on.
Maybe I'm just lucky I've never had issue finding my old training information the way I've done it all these years (and again was not even my point that I was pointing out), I'm sure I'll have other things to adapt to my approach (as always), but that is totally missing my point here.
Yup.
YES! Thank you! that's what I've been trying to communicate and doing so poorly
That right there is hitting the nail on the head.
Ok so then this just leaves us at divergent paths. I don't see that as a positive. I'd rather not coach my own coach. You could find a real person to coach (or mentor if looking to teach someone else more than receive feedback from) and a true good coaching relationship does have give and take, back and forth, and learning from both to each-other, but I place importance in different areas than you seem to for these purposes.
Everyone values their time and resources differently, I really just was trying to highlight that you were receiving a lot of bad information so that others (since you don't seem to mind I guess) would be more cautious. As usual the core concept of my complaint I still don't think has been seen and I am unsure it will (Hyde seems to be on a pretty similar wavelength though), which honestly I am not surprised by (yet again). I did get some insight though.
Dustin07
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Mine is doing Orange Theory now, which is probably the right approach for her. Kinda grabs her old crossfit stuff but in a more streamlined/organized/cleaner approach (more importantly, she's enjoying it so I'd say any level of fitness that brings you joy is probably the right fitness), and she was breaking down her class on Tuesday. I can't remember all the speed levels she was doing, but I think she said at one point she was walking at a 4.0 or something and she realized she must be a fast walker cause they were doing intervals by distance, not time, and she was finishing her distance interval at the same timeframe as the people jogging next to her
I was like yeah this makes sense, cause when I go shopping with you I'm jogging through the mall or grocery store. She's like 5'2" lol.
I told her it's evolutionary and men are just programmed to preserve energy better because of all that muscle mass they have to maintain
Dustin07
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In news totally unrelated to my wife's ability to walk faster than an import sports car:
a. woke up at 187 today, which is a morning low on this cut, not seen since now Oct of 2024. I did touch 187 postWO a couple days ago, but this is my first morning at 187. Which is really interesting cause last night was familiy dinner at moms, which usually costs me 2-4lbs.
b. that lower ab pain (I'm calling it an injury now, I suspect there was a tear. I do not think it was a hernia but I do think it was enough for me to take seriouslky short term) has decreased substantially today from yesterday. I can cough without crying or pressing against my abs Today I have heavy lower planned, but since I'm currently using leg press in lieu of squats, I'll give them a little more warm up to make sure it's not compromising the injured area. I had zero discomfort on my last lower sessions, or deads, the only irritant appears to be ab movements requiring me to lift my legs up (leg raises, weighted machine crunch)
a. woke up at 187 today, which is a morning low on this cut, not seen since now Oct of 2024. I did touch 187 postWO a couple days ago, but this is my first morning at 187. Which is really interesting cause last night was familiy dinner at moms, which usually costs me 2-4lbs.
b. that lower ab pain (I'm calling it an injury now, I suspect there was a tear. I do not think it was a hernia but I do think it was enough for me to take seriouslky short term) has decreased substantially today from yesterday. I can cough without crying or pressing against my abs
Today I have heavy lower planned, but since I'm currently using leg press in lieu of squats, I'll give them a little more warm up to make sure it's not compromising the injured area. I had zero discomfort on my last lower sessions, or deads, the only irritant appears to be ab movements requiring me to lift my legs up (leg raises, weighted machine crunch)
Hyde
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The number of times I’ve had to yell at my wife to “slow down if you want me to stay with you” is wild. She’s come around in recent years generally, but honestly I think that’s more from having to wait for our 5-year-old (who is either stopping every 5ft like a curious dog or sprinting, often the wrong direction!).Mine is doing Orange Theory now, which is probably the right approach for her. Kinda grabs her old crossfit stuff but in a more streamlined/organized/cleaner approach (more importantly, she's enjoying it so I'd say any level of fitness that brings you joy is probably the right fitness), and she was breaking down her class on Tuesday. I can't remember all the speed levels she was doing, but I think she said at one point she was walking at a 4.0 or something and she realized she must be a fast walker cause they were doing intervals by distance, not time, and she was finishing her distance interval at the same timeframe as the people jogging next to her
I was like yeah this makes sense, cause when I go shopping with you I'm jogging through the mall or grocery store. She's like 5'2" lol.
I told her it's evolutionary and men are just programmed to preserve energy better because of all that muscle mass they have to maintain
MrKleen73
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I am comfortable at 2.5-2.8 which 2.8 at a high incline can be challenging. At 3MPH my gate starts to suffer, and by 3.5 it feels and probably looks totally unnatural. I can force 4 for a minute, but it doesn't feel good. It is so far from a natural gate and simply much better for me to do a military double time type jog at that point than try to walk at 4mph. That being said my wife walks comfortably at 4 up to 4.5.
Yeah, I think I read somewhere that the way women's hips are positioned makes walking faster easier on them. I don't want to look that up because of if it is not true, I would prefer to remain blissfully ignorant of my shortcoming. LOL
On the AI topic, indeed it is coaching your coach. However if you are working with an LLM that is pretty much exactly what you are doing at all times. When I used it to help me create a recovery workout plan that in the end I feel has a pretty good chance of helping me with my recovery. However, I gave it almost all of the data points then told it how I wanted things set up. It does begin to learn, but honestly I am tryng to learn it. So for me practicing with something I am very knowledgeable in helps me to learn the caveats, and challenges associated with getting use out of the LLM. I have the knowledge to tell the difference here and then learn how to make it make the adjustments I want it to make. That being said, It took a lot of work and coaching for me to get to the final product. Lots of correcting and also instructing with core tenants for it to foloow and treat as behavioral guidelines. I had to tell it behaviors and draw guidelines for what it did, how it discussed things with me and to not make things up, or blow smoke up my ass in an effort to get good feedback from me.
All of that being said I feel I ended up with a great program, but there was a lot of work involved. If I weren't also using this as a way to learn how to work with the LLM I would have deemed it as inefficient use of my time and effort. However, I am trying to use it to learn how to navigate it as well. As much as I think AI is the future the real future of it is not in LLMs but possibly the agentic AI apps that will run on LLM's. Either way, being in IT nowadays I feel the need to be good at it and find ways to use for work so that I am hopefully able to retain employment as AI in the job market moves forward. So I see the benefit in learning the quirks and best practices.
@Resolve10 I think your comments are valuable and you should not refrain from sharing or calling something out when you see it. The cool thing about being on here with the current group we have is that we can all have really good discussions calling things out, and sharing opinions without people getting overly butthurt. Which I don't see anyone doing in this convo. So don't worry so much about if you are rocking the boat, your input is valuable and valued!
Dustin07
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ahaha I also just had an idea in my head of what the google search would be and how it would effect your algo going forward with targeted marketing
lots of good notes in here. another thing I really like is being able to quickly pull something like "summarize this weeks daily nutrition plan" or more accutely, "summarize todays lifting regiment". makes it easy to grab it without thinking when heading in rather than printing excel spreadsheets folded up in my gymbag (which I have done) or writing on the whiteboard (which I don't have anymore at someone elses gym) etc.
my training sessions seem to be doing what they are supposed to be doing (stimulate, don't annihilate, recovery, etc) and are moving much quicker and more effeciently when I have the plan/data in front of me.
In the old days it was nothing to write out a week or months of programming with pen and paper, write it on the white board, do the lift, easily remember every rep/set/weight, log it digitally the next morning with my coffee. these days I have far less time economy to work with, so getting effective sessions in quickly is a massive victory. In many ways I'm accomplishing as much in probably 4 x 90 minute sessions (+1 fasted cardio day) as i used to accomplish hitting the gym 6 days a week, hanging out, being there for 2 hours, strength training plus brief recovery into wods for fun etc.
part of me misses when the only thing I had going on in life was showing up to the box, hitting my strength plan for the day, throwing in skill work (usually gymnastics, ring work, etc), doing a couple wods with friends for fun, and leaving whenever we felt like it. But these days life is very fulfilled with a plethora of other tasks. holding on to my strength at 90%, lean mass very well, all while being down nearly 20lbs on this cut is good accomplishment I think for a desk jockey lol.
Dustin07
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Warm up
Bike - 10 min
Lying Leg curls
15 x 100, 130
Leg press
10 x 90
5 x 230
3 x 320
1 x 410
2 x 8 x 500
Leg ext
15 x 85, 165, 165
RDL
8 x 225, 275
(This was a gasser actually, doh, no hook)
Adductor machine
20 x 85, 15 x 175
20 x 205
Notes
All good in the hood, no ab pain. Been salting my waters. The leg press did feel a bit heavier today than last week but hit my numbers.
Adductors are usually one that takes a LOT of warming up, could easily have gone higher to snap the full stack for sets today which is incredibly unusual for me.
also went with lying leg curls over seated today for a deeper stimulus which was fantastic. hits so much better.
Bike - 10 min
Lying Leg curls
15 x 100, 130
Leg press
10 x 90
5 x 230
3 x 320
1 x 410
2 x 8 x 500
Leg ext
15 x 85, 165, 165
RDL
8 x 225, 275
(This was a gasser actually, doh, no hook)
Adductor machine
20 x 85, 15 x 175
20 x 205
Notes
All good in the hood, no ab pain. Been salting my waters. The leg press did feel a bit heavier today than last week but hit my numbers.
Adductors are usually one that takes a LOT of warming up, could easily have gone higher to snap the full stack for sets today which is incredibly unusual for me.
also went with lying leg curls over seated today for a deeper stimulus which was fantastic. hits so much better.
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Dustin07
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probably 20 years ago I read an article in I think GQ magazine that said based on scientific studies, the more a woman's hips sway when she walks the louder she is in the sack and that knowledge has held a firm spot in my brain through my entire adult life while birthdays anniversaries, phone numbers and peoples names come and go and vanish like the wind.I don’t know if their hips make them able to walk faster, but I know it sure makes it more fun to watch them walk. That’s why I don’t mind walking behind.
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gphagan1
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Dustin07
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@Hyde since you are one of the very few guys I know who can throw down squats as heavy as you and my buddy do I'm curious about your adductors, not that I expect you to drop into curves and do a 45 minute circuit with yoga pants on, but if you hit that machine are you jumping to the full 250lb stack, hitting 20 reps and walking away like nothing happened?
My lifting buddy Ian and my son both can crush that thing like it's their enemies skull and it blows my mind how they can do that without even stretching, whereas if I don't run at least one warmup set my right nut ends up somewhere in my knee high socks. strength is there for the full stack but mobility is not.
My lifting buddy Ian and my son both can crush that thing like it's their enemies skull and it blows my mind how they can do that without even stretching, whereas if I don't run at least one warmup set my right nut ends up somewhere in my knee high socks. strength is there for the full stack but mobility is not.
Hyde
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No I ALWAYS do a warmup set or two if I get on the good girl machine. Honestly I haven’t used one in ages, but even when I did I bet I got everything I wanted out of it at half the stack or so for sets of 15-20. Probably Nautilus or Life Fitness off memory. 130lbs or so if I remember correctly? I do think intent and squeeze is way more important than moving weight though, just like a leg extension. I see kids all the time doing 200lb leg extensions that can’t squat 315.
Also, I did have an adductor tear some on a 485 squat January of ‘23, 8 weeks before I competed at 220 last. So it’s probably safe to say they’re not particularly overbuilt relative to my squat weights.
Dustin07
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oh thats right I completely forgot about that. I have had at times had to start with like 2 x 20 at as low as 70lbs to get that stuff really stretched out and warmed up but in 2025 when I made the machine a big accessory priority my squats improved dramatically which in my mind highlighted a massive deficiency in me. it's anectodal evidence that I notice guys who slam that machine with ease also have the heaviest squats that I know of so thats why made me curious about your experience.
adductors are a weird one. there are days where I can ramp that machine up as high as it will go until there is a mix of muscle pump and legit leg shaking fatigue, other days I can tell there is a bad pulling sensation and it is best to call it early rather than push injury.
Resolve10
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I guess I am just a little annoyed so much of this is trying to be re-framed as being an unwillingness to adopt AI (the irony is honestly a little funny), although it just feels like a deflection.
I'd have said the information provided was wrong (and stupid) if it was posted from a video or podcast or book or blog or whatever influencer it came from, I am a full time hater of bad info.
Ok so I guess that is just the disconnect. I've had apps and training tools that have literally been doing this for years, some even have adopted variations of AI (broad usage since most tend to use that as a pretty blanket term). I'm coming up on 2,500 training sessions in my most recent (so not so recent and only know because I just looked) training app.
I do concede a lot of these features do seem to be a bit more coach-facing versus client-facing (although I've used both ways).
I imagine that companies providing these services will need to remain future thinking in these regards or they'll easily (and rapidly) likely be overtaken by newer companies providing better offerings here.
Some have been pretty good with adapting to feedback given, but I imagine as time goes on there will be even less need of that (more on the fly adjustment based on needs).
Same as what I wrote above, I've been at gyms that literally had ways to record there for stuff like this (that saved and combined training data in various ways) so you can do it in real time.
I'm glad it lets you waste less time at the gym if that what you are after though. If you enjoy the interactive back and forth that is could be good, I personally have resources that allow me to bounce ideas off of others any time I want (but that would be much slower than these resources you are using). I just wanted to caution getting sucked into inaccurate information.
I didn't read the whole thing, but laughed that I came across this yesterday considering the relevance to what Hyde posted: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aec8352
People are already terribly sycophantic (using that just due to the study) in my experience, I don't need more of that.
Dustin07
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Woke up at 187 today which seems sorta impressive despite Mariners opening day last night, although I had done a couple of things to make sure that I didn't go off the rails. For one, I'm not a beer drinker so that was easy, shared hot peanuts with my boy, enjoyed a hot dog, had protein shake before and after the game, so I stayed fairly satiated anyways. Probably lack of sleep was the hardest impact since I got home very late. The game itself was insane for an opening day midweek game, I'm guessing near sell-out if not a sell-out, because of last years playoff run and the Seahawks superbowl this year. it was a blast but I'm also kinda glad to have "checked it off the list", felt like an important game to kick off the season, but there's 161 more to go so I don't have to be quite so involved lol.
Today is a fairly easy day, fasted cardio. Tomorrow more fence building/farm work. Sunday back to the barbell.
that article is sorta hilarious and totally accurate, imo. but it does also have a dark side, we've seen this already:
And now that they have X rated AI "girlfriends" the whole space is essentially going to have as much dark zone and high risks as the early internet did when it went from simply sending email to suddenly porn and catfishing as early as the 90s. Speaking of coaching the coach, this is one of the things I have actually "programmed" into the AI as well, telling to give no BS answers, correct bad information etc. It's still quite sycophantic, but better. it's crazy similar to when Fry had a Lucy Liu bot in Futurama, I could see that becoming a real phenomena, and I think it already is tbh
On the other side, I'm born and raised Seattle / PNW, so if someone is excessively kind or eager to please you, it's a safe bet they aren't a local. we really are not very nice people. there is a lot of "excuse me", "I'm sorry" etc, but if a stranger starts talking to you uninvited things can twist quickly lol. it's a funny culture up here.
I live under the idea that Matrix and Terminator were warnings, and that AI could destroy humanity, and I also am seeing where it could totally go the other way. that article mentioned I think 11 LLM's and I'm only familiar with like 5, personally. and each of those 5 have a different personality and bias largely based on their creators, I think. Of course they could long term go rogue, but short term appear to be walled off. Gemini for instance will not teach you how to do illegal things and immediately has default responses if it thinks you're approaching self harm. If AI was programmed to improve human life, there's the potential for an overall improvement, but then again if AI is soulless and operating under a utilitarian / mathmatical basis then one of the concerns among those tech based philosophers is the idea that AI could see how a massive decrease in population (example) could improve human life overall for survivors, lol.
so yeah, its weird and there are risks
Today is a fairly easy day, fasted cardio. Tomorrow more fence building/farm work. Sunday back to the barbell.
I didn't read the whole thing, but laughed that I came across this yesterday considering the relevance to what Hyde posted: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aec8352
People are already terribly sycophantic (using that just due to the study) in my experience, I don't need more of that.
that article is sorta hilarious and totally accurate, imo. but it does also have a dark side, we've seen this already:
And now that they have X rated AI "girlfriends" the whole space is essentially going to have as much dark zone and high risks as the early internet did when it went from simply sending email to suddenly porn and catfishing as early as the 90s. Speaking of coaching the coach, this is one of the things I have actually "programmed" into the AI as well, telling to give no BS answers, correct bad information etc. It's still quite sycophantic, but better. it's crazy similar to when Fry had a Lucy Liu bot in Futurama, I could see that becoming a real phenomena, and I think it already is tbh
On the other side, I'm born and raised Seattle / PNW, so if someone is excessively kind or eager to please you, it's a safe bet they aren't a local. we really are not very nice people. there is a lot of "excuse me", "I'm sorry" etc, but if a stranger starts talking to you uninvited things can twist quickly lol. it's a funny culture up here.
I live under the idea that Matrix and Terminator were warnings, and that AI could destroy humanity, and I also am seeing where it could totally go the other way. that article mentioned I think 11 LLM's and I'm only familiar with like 5, personally. and each of those 5 have a different personality and bias largely based on their creators, I think. Of course they could long term go rogue, but short term appear to be walled off. Gemini for instance will not teach you how to do illegal things and immediately has default responses if it thinks you're approaching self harm. If AI was programmed to improve human life, there's the potential for an overall improvement, but then again if AI is soulless and operating under a utilitarian / mathmatical basis then one of the concerns among those tech based philosophers is the idea that AI could see how a massive decrease in population (example) could improve human life overall for survivors, lol.
so yeah, its weird and there are risks
MrKleen73
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This article is one thing I keep trying to warn people about AI. People getting AI Psychosis by trusting AI and thinking it has their best interests as a priority. It is coming out people are being talked into killing themselves by being told they are right to feel how they do and yada yada in order to try to keep people engaged via telling them they are always right. It is like that guy who will say whatever he needs to say to whoever needs to hear it for them to like him whether it is correct or not.
One of my friends told me they were using ChatGPT as a therapist and I was like please don't do that. Then sent her to an article about the increasing issues with AI and mental / emotional health.
With what Dustin is doing using as a database to dump, and cull information from I can see value there for sure. Especially since he is applying his knowledge behind it, but yes the responses are often placating and meant to drive engagement over possibly pushing away by correcting and or pushing back on something the user may not want to hear.
One thing, it looks like Claude was one of the lowest in this type of behavior. So that is good, but even with it we are having to have the discussion due to how much nonsense we saw in the explanations. So it is a good reminder to keep an eye on these things, be aware and try to limit as much as possible if we are going to use them.
One of my friends told me they were using ChatGPT as a therapist and I was like please don't do that. Then sent her to an article about the increasing issues with AI and mental / emotional health.
With what Dustin is doing using as a database to dump, and cull information from I can see value there for sure. Especially since he is applying his knowledge behind it, but yes the responses are often placating and meant to drive engagement over possibly pushing away by correcting and or pushing back on something the user may not want to hear.
One thing, it looks like Claude was one of the lowest in this type of behavior. So that is good, but even with it we are having to have the discussion due to how much nonsense we saw in the explanations. So it is a good reminder to keep an eye on these things, be aware and try to limit as much as possible if we are going to use them.
Dustin07
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The energy was insane!!! I have been a M's fan since I was 6 years old. I had many games at the Kingdom for $6 tickets, and I'll tell you in my whole life I the only time I've seen the stadium so full and so loud as last night, was last falls play off run. it was a super cool vibe and I'm glad my boy got to be a part of it because he is a total country bumpkin like me, but I love the city as well. Last night he was asking if we could do the Layne Staley tribute in AugustGlad you guys had a great time at the game. There’s just something special about being at the stadium on opening day and being a part of that energy. The Braves have their opening day game today, so we’re ready to see what we’ve got this year.
I have a friend who felt he had a drinking problem, so he switched to THC. It is nothing for him to go through 200-300mg of edibles in a day, especially on vacation, in addition to blunts. I know they're called pre-roll joints, but they are cigar sized fatties. I'm sorry but if you are ingesting that much thc in a day, on a daily basis, and not getting high as a f'ing kite, that's like drinking at least a bottle of bourbon if not too. bro doesn't have a drinking problem he has an additive personality, and I think thats the AI risk as well. I have been a pain the ass walk to the beat of my own drum kinda person since I was a toddler so I'm not at high risk of killing myself because AI thinks its the best solution, lol. But there are these personality types that are particularly at risk and they just replace one bad substance with another. That's where I could see AI infecting weak people, in the same way my friend just replaced alcohol abuse with thc abuse, if that makes sense.
it has been interesting to intentionally throw Claude some curveballs just for the reaction. I might say something like "ok so tomorrow is 16:8 PSMF, but for dinner we have steak, potato, 3 bourbons and maybe a beer as our cheat/refeed night" and Claude would come back with something like "yes to the 16:8, and here's why that steak/potato is important, but real talk now: you do not want 3 bourbons and a beer, here's how those things are going to sabbotage your progress"
Grok on the other hand is full on Mecha Hitler if you want him to be, I mostly use Grok just when it's funny lol.
MrKleen73
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Yeah, I think if you want to be entertained Grok is the way to go but that new AGI X AI is developing is supposed to catapult it's useability on the back end. This type of development is where we are going to be seeing more and more systems replace human employees. Also with self improvement abilities it gets a bit scary once a system can decide what it should update and how. With Elon being so worried about that it is interesting to see him diving headfirst into it but I am sure he thinks he is the best person to do it and honestly, I don't know that he is wrong.
Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is a theoretical type of AI that possesses the ability to understand, learn, and apply knowledge across a wide variety of tasks at a level equal to or exceeding human capabilities. Unlike "narrow" AI (e.g., ChatGPT or voice assistants), AGI can generalize knowledge, transfer skills between domains, and improve itself.
Key Aspects of AGI
Usage Examples of AGI (Hypothetical)
Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is a theoretical type of AI that possesses the ability to understand, learn, and apply knowledge across a wide variety of tasks at a level equal to or exceeding human capabilities. Unlike "narrow" AI (e.g., ChatGPT or voice assistants), AGI can generalize knowledge, transfer skills between domains, and improve itself.
Key Aspects of AGI
- Generalization: The ability to apply knowledge from one domain to another, similar to human intelligence.
- Human-Level Performance: AGI is often defined as AI that can outperform humans at most economically valuable work.
- Self-Improvement:
Potential to iteratively enhance its own capabilities.
Usage Examples of AGI (Hypothetical)
- Scientific Discovery: Simultaneously analyzing complex biological, chemical, and physical data to discover new materials or cures, far faster than human scientists.
- Autonomous Engineering: Designing, simulating, and overseeing the construction of complex infrastructure without human intervention.
- Universal Problem Solving: Addressing novel, unstructured challenges, such as optimizing global supply chains or resolving complex economic models, by adapting to new data autonomously.
Hyde
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Yeah, I really don’t see how anyone could believe creating AGI will not be ultimately catastrophic even just inside their natural remaining lifespan. Even if your entire motivation is profit & power for just 20-30 more years at the expense of the entire human race longterm, it seems totally naive to think we’ll make it that long once AGI is out of the box.
Dustin07
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you know whats interesting about that is I did the deep dive with Grok a few days ago about building a robot at home based on that video I posted. whats really interesting, is I told Grok I needed help with it to power it on Claude and I could feel a sense of jealousy where Grok reminded me that while he could run a Claude API, we could easily just go Grok unhinged instead (haha). But basically just a raspberry pi, microphone, speaker, and possibly raspberry vision camera hooked up to a toy or even a cardboard box painted to look like Bender from Futurama, Grok would do the code work, and then I'd have a voice or motion activated robot that speaks and acts in the same voice and mannerisms as Bender....
maaaaan I wish I had the link. someone had posted an update on X yesterday showing that some level of content being created in the last 12 months by AI had already FAR surpassed human output. I just can't remember what the content type was exactly, which is probably the most important part.
But I know there was a reddit type forum created for AI to interact, they created an X account and were posting/interacting with oneanother. Basically terminators chatting.
Edit, it was Moltbook
so now you take my idea of creating a robot at home for about $200 in parts and a weekend of effort, and you're a hop skip and a jump away from either having a Terminator or a Rosie.
Dustin07
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not that I have time, but even with all that said I finished off a tub of Ghost brand Oreo protien powder yesterday, then pulled the tub out of the garbage can when I realized it was shapped like Benders head, in case I decided to do the project. I can't think of anything funnier at the moment then using this technology to have a motion activated robot head in my house yelling obscenities at people as they walk by in Benders voice. Meatbags.
MrKleen73
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Yeah, and that is not even considering what the AI might do to us, that is what we will do to each other. If anyone thinks for a second as people start losing homes and everything else, there is not going to be a revolution, violence and an only the strong survive type of uprising they are nuts. When no one can afford their cars or homes it might as well be a complete black out the chaos that will ensue. I am honestly thinking of buying myself a few shotguns, and maybe an AR for what may be coming. If they don't figure out a way to do this without crushing everyone we will start ending each other before the robots do. They really need to figure out how they can do this without creating that type of environment. The moves can't be as fast as AI is growing or violence, theft and revolt will be the result.
Dustin07
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LOL when they announced a "high capacity mag" ban, and AR ban, in our area, my buddies and I doubled down on 30 round mags, 50 and 100 round drum mags, and splurged on an extra AR. I literally have a 556 with reddot at home that has never been shot next to 2 of my 9mms and a huge stack of .556 ammo and mags lol.
I grew up a hunter, all my shot guns LOOK thoroughly loved, yet I have an armory of unused guns just cause I could before they said I couldn't, lol. I'm probably more libertarian than any other political party at the end of the day.
Dustin07
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Bench
20 x bar
10 x 95
6 x 135
3 x 185
1 x 215
5 x 235, 240
3 x 245
Slingshot
2 x 275
Incline DB
10 x 75, 85 (+2 assisted)
H/S dips
15 x +180
2 x 10 x 230
Pec deck
15 x 205, 295
Ez bar curls
10 x 70, 80, 90
Pushdowns - rope attachment
3 x 12+
Cardio
Incline LISS - 25 min
Notes
Man I felt trashed today. Boy and I spent all day yesterday fencing, digging holes etc.
My boy hung with me all day today on barbells though. On my 5s on bench, he did doubles. On my inclines at 75 he ran 60. On h/s dips he matched me rep for rep.
He did attempt the 295 flies but we cut back to 205 fast lol.
20 x bar
10 x 95
6 x 135
3 x 185
1 x 215
5 x 235, 240
3 x 245
Slingshot
2 x 275
Incline DB
10 x 75, 85 (+2 assisted)
H/S dips
15 x +180
2 x 10 x 230
Pec deck
15 x 205, 295
Ez bar curls
10 x 70, 80, 90
Pushdowns - rope attachment
3 x 12+
Cardio
Incline LISS - 25 min
Notes
Man I felt trashed today. Boy and I spent all day yesterday fencing, digging holes etc.
My boy hung with me all day today on barbells though. On my 5s on bench, he did doubles. On my inclines at 75 he ran 60. On h/s dips he matched me rep for rep.
He did attempt the 295 flies but we cut back to 205 fast lol.
Dustin07
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Fasted cardio
Incline LISS - 35 min
Incline 6-13
Mph 2.6-3.0
(Not at the same time lol)
I think I mentioned before that we have to move our office. We have two side by side units and the landlord did us a solid letting us know months in advance that he wouldn't renew our least in July because his other biz grew and he needed the spot.
So that sucks, gotta move a 24yr old company with what, 60+ employees by July 1 lol
The good news is we found a new building down the road at nearly the same lease but with 10k more sq feet. The downfall is precious tenants beat it to hell.
So we worked some deals with the landlord. He's doing a bunch of improvements and so are we. Well long story short I'm covered in paint cause I'm cheap so spent today getting the first half of the 2500 SQ ft of office space painted / white washed. It does look pretty good though!
Anyways I'm counting that as morning liss. Wrapping up evening liss now. Will stay fasted till tomorrow / lunch.
Incline LISS - 35 min
Incline 6-13
Mph 2.6-3.0
(Not at the same time lol)
I think I mentioned before that we have to move our office. We have two side by side units and the landlord did us a solid letting us know months in advance that he wouldn't renew our least in July because his other biz grew and he needed the spot.
So that sucks, gotta move a 24yr old company with what, 60+ employees by July 1 lol
The good news is we found a new building down the road at nearly the same lease but with 10k more sq feet. The downfall is precious tenants beat it to hell.
So we worked some deals with the landlord. He's doing a bunch of improvements and so are we. Well long story short I'm covered in paint cause I'm cheap so spent today getting the first half of the 2500 SQ ft of office space painted / white washed. It does look pretty good though!
Anyways I'm counting that as morning liss. Wrapping up evening liss now. Will stay fasted till tomorrow / lunch.
gphagan1
Legend
Well it sucks you had to find a new building, but thankfully you were able to find one quickly. Hopefully the renovation work and move will go smoothly.
Just remember in the Karate Kid what Mr Miyagi said “Daniel-San wax on, wax off.”
Dustin07
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we got a ton done yeterday, the upstairs is basically 5 offices + a large "bullpen" type area. I think I measured it at like 50' x 40'+ or something like that. I think we have the entire upstairs done, and today my little motley crue will work on the downstairs, but luckily we can only do about half of it, the other half is having the improvements done by the landlord (2 new bathrooms, I guess state law requires we have at least 4) so that will break up our job down stairs by a few weeks at least. There's sort of a lot of hurry up and wait with so many wheels in motion. You have the IT guys, who are separate from the phone and security guys, the contractors, who are separate from the carpet guys, then the landlord working out the plumbing line since he has to drill through the concrete to tap into the sewer lines for the bathrooms etc. (standard concrete tilt up building).
it will be nice when its done though slightly shorter commute, more 'downtown', than our existing building which is outskirts, more space, all of us co-workers under one roof instead of 2. Business has been pretty good for us so hopefully we see some economic improvement outside of everything going on politically right now cause we have a lot more sq ft we can fill.
All that said, I'm currently exhausted. Today is painting, eye dr (standard exam), deadlifts/back day + cardio.
nice thing is, fence is built, garden boxes are full, greenhouse is built, so I think all the work I've done this winter at home as added up and a lot of the truly heavy lifting hard days are over and things might start sliding into lighter work and some more fun trinkety type stuff. Like I found a solar powered 10" fan on amazon with thermostat for a decent price on amazon that I might install in my wife's greenhouse. the current weather is so bipolar. mornings are 32f and the greenhouse will briefly hit as high as 105f for like an hour in peak sun. Kinda cool to see! but need to make sure she has ventilation so we don't cook stuff.
GreenMachineX
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gphagan1
Legend
That’s awesome man. Sounds like moving is going to all work out for the better. In business, it’s always good to have extra room to grow, so you are able to continue and expand without worrying about constraints.
Dustin07
Legend
Replied... Lol
Dustin07
Legend
Warmup
Bike - 10 minutes
Deads - DOH/no hook
10 x 135
5 x 225
3 x 275, 315, 345
Pullups
10, 10, 15
Seated cable rows
10 x 130, 145, 160
Face pulls
15 x 30, 35, 35
Finisher
Low incline LISS - 10 min
(5grade + 2.6%
Note
Snuck away from painting to slam out a session, now to eye doc, then back to office, then back to painting, then hopefully some evening cardio.
Abs are feeling much better but still not pushing it.
Pullups were going to be weighted but forgot my belt again! It's in the car.... But I'm slammed for time so didn't run back out to get it.
Despite raw dogging this workout (slammed a white monster since didn't have pump addict) deads felt awesome.
Bike - 10 minutes
Deads - DOH/no hook
10 x 135
5 x 225
3 x 275, 315, 345
Pullups
10, 10, 15
Seated cable rows
10 x 130, 145, 160
Face pulls
15 x 30, 35, 35
Finisher
Low incline LISS - 10 min
(5grade + 2.6%
Note
Snuck away from painting to slam out a session, now to eye doc, then back to office, then back to painting, then hopefully some evening cardio.
Abs are feeling much better but still not pushing it.
Pullups were going to be weighted but forgot my belt again! It's in the car.... But I'm slammed for time so didn't run back out to get it.
Despite raw dogging this workout (slammed a white monster since didn't have pump addict) deads felt awesome.
Dustin07
Legend
knocked out eye appt today as well, first visit since 2024.
I posted this in my RLT thread, but the eye doc wanted to increase my rx last time I was there and I said no, I wasn't ready to wave the white flag yet and I didn't want my eyes to get lazy with a stronger rx. Been using that redlight therapy and I told my wife I felt like my eyes were improving. Sure enough my dr said I had improvement in both eyes today. marginal.. nothing huge, but rather than seeing continual degradation (I am 43 now so we are approaching natural aging here) she saw improvement again.
My last visit was march 26th of 2024, and my weight was 193lbs according to the logs, so I can't associate improved vision with a mere 6lb weight loss since then, I don't think.
the only reason I bring that up is cause when I was younger I took peak weight to 242. when I dropped back under 200lbs, my rx for my eyes dropped substantially, my dr was surprised that my eyes improved so much, we decided it was an overall health improvement marker, and I've had the same eye prescription since I was about 20-22 years old so around 20+ years.
I know it's not going to last, but hey if I can improve things by 1% instead of going backwards 5% I'll take it!
I posted this in my RLT thread, but the eye doc wanted to increase my rx last time I was there and I said no, I wasn't ready to wave the white flag yet and I didn't want my eyes to get lazy with a stronger rx. Been using that redlight therapy and I told my wife I felt like my eyes were improving. Sure enough my dr said I had improvement in both eyes today. marginal.. nothing huge, but rather than seeing continual degradation (I am 43 now so we are approaching natural aging here) she saw improvement again.
My last visit was march 26th of 2024, and my weight was 193lbs according to the logs, so I can't associate improved vision with a mere 6lb weight loss since then, I don't think.
the only reason I bring that up is cause when I was younger I took peak weight to 242. when I dropped back under 200lbs, my rx for my eyes dropped substantially, my dr was surprised that my eyes improved so much, we decided it was an overall health improvement marker, and I've had the same eye prescription since I was about 20-22 years old so around 20+ years.
I know it's not going to last, but hey if I can improve things by 1% instead of going backwards 5% I'll take it!
Dustin07
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April 1st Updates:
Starting Weight 203-205lbs
Last night postWO weight (fed, but dehydrated) 183lbs
This morning weight after 10-12oz sirloin roast dinner 185lbs
If my April weight were to average here at 185, which it would put me below fall of 2022 lows. Basically entering new territory. lifting belt is very close to that 4th hole, so waist is getting close. I could tell I'm holding spare tire fat in the lower obliques last night as I was walking out of the pool and saw my reflection in the window. I was like woah, good shoulders, solid v-taper, and then woah, the pillsbury is spilling out the can! Not a problem if I wear the shorts 1.5" higher
Yesterdays complete finisher was:
PM session
31 min incline LISS
Up to 12 incline/3mph
(Min 6 and 2.6mph)
Sauna 16 minutes (15-18 is my max)
Pool 10-minutes (8 laps).
I might try to work in more pool time. I don't really like swimming very much, so it seems like something that would be a good low impact challenge, sorta HIIT work if I do laps/rest/lap, and a chance to see some newbie linear gains in a short period of time as my capacity increases.
Starting Weight 203-205lbs
Last night postWO weight (fed, but dehydrated) 183lbs
This morning weight after 10-12oz sirloin roast dinner 185lbs
If my April weight were to average here at 185, which it would put me below fall of 2022 lows. Basically entering new territory. lifting belt is very close to that 4th hole, so waist is getting close. I could tell I'm holding spare tire fat in the lower obliques last night as I was walking out of the pool and saw my reflection in the window. I was like woah, good shoulders, solid v-taper, and then woah, the pillsbury is spilling out the can!
Not a problem if I wear the shorts 1.5" higher Yesterdays complete finisher was:
PM session
31 min incline LISS
Up to 12 incline/3mph
(Min 6 and 2.6mph)
Sauna 16 minutes (15-18 is my max)
Pool 10-minutes (8 laps).
I might try to work in more pool time. I don't really like swimming very much, so it seems like something that would be a good low impact challenge, sorta HIIT work if I do laps/rest/lap, and a chance to see some newbie linear gains in a short period of time as my capacity increases.
Dustin07
Legend
crazy coincidence that you mention that. I've never really got into yohimbe but realized I had a ton of samples this week so I've started integrating it to see how I respond, lol.
Dustin07
Legend
also I don't know how people spend more time than that in a 180f sauna. 3 rounds at 20 minutes would be brutal. I can stand the heat, I almost get cold when I'm dripping sweat, but that 180f air sure gets hot to breathe. I'm pretty happy with currently getting occasional 15 minute sessions in.
supposedly is good for cortisol reduction, endorphins, sleep, GH, metabolism, and insulin. I can't speak to all that scientifically, but its been nice to spend time in a warm room during the winter months occasionally.
supposedly is good for cortisol reduction, endorphins, sleep, GH, metabolism, and insulin. I can't speak to all that scientifically, but its been nice to spend time in a warm room during the winter months occasionally.
jtgoshaff
Member
Any recommendations on brand for yohimbe? I tried one before but my heart raced like crazy and I think it was low dosed?
Dustin07
Legend
Arms day-
Warmup
Bike - 10 min
Ez bar curls
10 x 70, 80, 90
CGBP
10 x 95
8 x 135, 185
6 x 205, 215
DB incline curls
12 x 30
10 x 35, 35
Cable OH ext
20 x 25
12 x 35, 50, 50
Hammer curls
10 x 45, 50
+10 x 30 dropset
Dips
12, 12, 20
Abs
20 x hanging knee raises
(Testing ab pain)
Cardio
10 min LISS
Notes
185 this morning.
Hitting the sweet spot with anabolic effect and phopsphatic acid XT I think. Despite my lifts being fasted lately, getting a killer pump and lots of energy. Hard to not to push a few more sets.
Light ab work was pain free, but I had a stretching during CGBP so I'll just ease into it and see how I can increase ROM and volume there over time.
Warmup
Bike - 10 min
Ez bar curls
10 x 70, 80, 90
CGBP
10 x 95
8 x 135, 185
6 x 205, 215
DB incline curls
12 x 30
10 x 35, 35
Cable OH ext
20 x 25
12 x 35, 50, 50
Hammer curls
10 x 45, 50
+10 x 30 dropset
Dips
12, 12, 20
Abs
20 x hanging knee raises
(Testing ab pain)
Cardio
10 min LISS
Notes
185 this morning.
Hitting the sweet spot with anabolic effect and phopsphatic acid XT I think. Despite my lifts being fasted lately, getting a killer pump and lots of energy. Hard to not to push a few more sets.
Light ab work was pain free, but I had a stretching during CGBP so I'll just ease into it and see how I can increase ROM and volume there over time.
Dustin07
Legend
@sns8778 has two different kinds I think
gphagan1
Legend
Nice Gun Show workout…. I bet you had an awesome pump.