Smont
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I agree lol, I use a lot of ketchup
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Stacks1
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As long as you're not putting that stuff on steak or anything...
Smont
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I use to be so much better about meal prep and taking pictures of the food. Il try to make a effort for food pics dailyLooks good…. I love a steak and cheese omelette. I knew you would post some good food porn while you’re on a bulk…keep ‘em coming.
A good steak gets salt and nothing else, what's the or anything. Because anything besides steak gets ketchup lol
Smont
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Burgers
Omelettes
Any kind of crispy potatoes, those are my main ketchup foods.
I like heinz 57 sauce on a pork chop
I like ranch and hot sauce on chicken
I'm a sauce guy. Any time I'm not hungry, sauce can get the job done lol.
But steak, real steak, I might do a light marinade or do chopped onions and garlic or something, but typically, it's grilled, medium-rare, salt and eat
Omelettes
Any kind of crispy potatoes, those are my main ketchup foods.
I like heinz 57 sauce on a pork chop
I like ranch and hot sauce on chicken
I'm a sauce guy. Any time I'm not hungry, sauce can get the job done lol.
But steak, real steak, I might do a light marinade or do chopped onions and garlic or something, but typically, it's grilled, medium-rare, salt and eat
Stacks1
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I've seen some crazy $hit in my time with ketchup. Pasta, oysters, pancakes, some cereals, etc... gets me nauseous thinking about it.
I'm a big steak guy. So when I see a good cut of meat with ketchup on it, I just scratch my head wondering why they even bother spending the money on a good cut if they slather it in ketchup.
sammpedd88
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That’s bothers the hell out of me too. We took my daughter in law out for a birthday dinner over the summer and her parents came along. Her mom dipped her filet in ketchup. I wanted to stab her in her throat with her steak knife. We were at a very nice steakhouse also which bothered me even more. Dipping a good steak in ketchup is like mixing Pappy’s with coke. Yeah you can do it, but you really shouldn’t.
Smont
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Oh I agree, my family owns a few restaurants. My biggest WTF is when ppl order a good 45 day dry age strip, ask for it medium well and want ketchup or A1 sauce.
You mine as well order a burger or a pork chop
jfigliuolo
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Next time you cook a "really good" (or just plain decent) steak. Salt it liberally w/kosher salt ( more than you might expect, but don't cake it on) 24 hours ahead of time and let it sit unwrapped in fridge. You're welcome
sammpedd88
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I would lose my mind if I were them lol! Seeing it repeatedly as a restaurant owner would drive me crazy or make me homicidal!
sammpedd88
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I’ll definitely try that. I’ve salted them and let them sit for an hour to get to room temp before grilling but I’ll def try the 24 hr methodNext time you cook a "really good" (or just plain decent) steak. Salt it liberally w/kosher salt ( more than you might expect, but don't cake it on) 24 hours ahead of time and let it sit unwrapped in fridge. You're welcome
Stacks1
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Yeah I just don't get it. If you like the taste of ketchup then get a side of fries and dip them in ketchup. Ruining a 45 day dry aged steak with ketchup or A1 sauce is just mind boggling to me. You're right, might as well just get a burger.
The only time I have my steak medium well is when I accidentally overcook it. Medium rare is exactly where I like it. Oddly enough I will eat my burgers at medium well though.
Dustin07
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I won't associate with people who pull this type of manuever.
I stopped talking to my dad years ago when he ordered his steak "well done".
Smont
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I've done it before and you are correctNext time you cook a "really good" (or just plain decent) steak. Salt it liberally w/kosher salt ( more than you might expect, but don't cake it on) 24 hours ahead of time and let it sit unwrapped in fridge. You're welcome
Smont
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Hyde
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That’s not weird; that’s called survival instinct.
A med-rare burger is asking to get food poisoning, speaking from multiple undercooked experiences. There’s about a bajillion times more surface area exposure to bacteria with ground beef than a similar total oz cut of steak, where the only place germs could be is the exterior that gets seared/browned.
Stacks1
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I think you're right with it being survival instinct. No matter how rare a steak is, I can visibly see the entire steak is fully cooked on the outside (completely seared outside and juices kept inside), so I know it's good to eat. With a burger, if it's rare or medium rare, I can't really see that it's actually fully cooked or cooked properly. Partly because it's in a bun, topped with lettuce, onions, tomatoes, etc. And back to your point, it's ground beef, so there is much more area for exposure to germs and bacteria, unlike a piece of steak.
Makes sense.
Dustin07
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thats my mentality as well. I don't worry about steak at all, I'd almost eat it completely uncooked ( I don't) but even if someone tells me that the hamburger grind is from pure "X" steak cut, I dont' trust their grind process. for all I know they ground up pure clean ribeye in the same grinder they just did intestines, and you're back to e.coli risk in the beef. just cook that burger right, smother it in grilled onions and slap it between some pretzel buns.
Smont
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I eat my burgers medium, but with that said, if I'm not comfortable enough at a restaurant to order a burger medium rare I will not eat at that restaurant. Growing up in the restaurant business is kind of made me a snob with stuff like that. Lots of times I'll go to a restaurant and I order it medium knowing it's going to come out well done because typically those types of places won't chance it Go automatically overcook it. This is just what I've seen being around the restaurant.
Pork has come a long way too, it is very common for us to get orders for a medium pork chop now.
Hyde
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It not even about the restaurant or cook; often the grinding is happening at the factory or butcher prior to that. Great restaurant handling procedures can’t undo all the surface area exposure that happened from the tons of different cuts of meat getting ground together at the packing house prior.
Smont
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I'm talking more about the quality of the beef. I know the difference between the ground beef I'm getting at my uncle's restaurant and the stuff down the street at the Greek pizzeria that doesn't even have steak on the menu. Like....... I'm not getting it out of Chili's restaurant medium rare, but at Dave & Bourke steakhouse I we'll get a medium rare Burger.
I'm not denying that ground beef is more likely to get you sick when undercooked, it definitely is
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Smont
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Oh I got a gross story for you on this topic lol. What I was a kid my friend Michael and his sister would eat raw ground beef straight from the grocery store. Their mother would put it on a plate sprinkle some seasoning on it and they would sit and eat it like it was potato chips
, it was there favorite snack lol
Smont
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Protein bar, some dates and a Coffee
(Was in a rush)
Turkey Cheddar and veggie wrap no sauce (not by choice, I left the sauce at home
Pre workout snack I took some pb2 and protein powder and made it into a spread of sorts, it wasn't terrible lol, but definitely wasn't a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 32gm protein tho.
Got to the gym and it was crowded with a youth class so I went to the upstairs. (we got a extra little area with two power racks, a bench and a couple sets of dumbbells up to 90's. There was ppl up there and I kinda just felt like going home. That's not like me to do that very often, but I try not to make a big deal because I know I'm still going to do more then I'm supposed to 9 out of 10 times.
So I came home and ate chicken and rice lol
With hot sauce of course.
Started taking 15gm of creatine mono per day, haven't used it in a while and idk why not, I think Im gonna buy a bunch and do 20-30 for the brain health stuff too. Been reading a lot of brain health and some Parkinson's stuff and it seems very promising just as a cheap supplement for your brain. I got a shitty short term memory and I fumble over my words sometimes. I know it's probably more to do with ADHD but it's all kinda linked. Hopefully il at least get some strength gains
(Was in a rush)
Turkey Cheddar and veggie wrap no sauce (not by choice, I left the sauce at home
Pre workout snack I took some pb2 and protein powder and made it into a spread of sorts, it wasn't terrible lol, but definitely wasn't a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 32gm protein tho.
Got to the gym and it was crowded with a youth class so I went to the upstairs. (we got a extra little area with two power racks, a bench and a couple sets of dumbbells up to 90's. There was ppl up there and I kinda just felt like going home. That's not like me to do that very often, but I try not to make a big deal because I know I'm still going to do more then I'm supposed to 9 out of 10 times.
So I came home and ate chicken and rice lol
With hot sauce of course.
Started taking 15gm of creatine mono per day, haven't used it in a while and idk why not, I think Im gonna buy a bunch and do 20-30 for the brain health stuff too. Been reading a lot of brain health and some Parkinson's stuff and it seems very promising just as a cheap supplement for your brain. I got a shitty short term memory and I fumble over my words sometimes. I know it's probably more to do with ADHD but it's all kinda linked. Hopefully il at least get some strength gains
akboom87
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Funny you mention, they are also doing some studies on it protecting the brain from sleep deprivation. From what I gathered so far they where using 20mg a day for the brain health.Protein bar, some dates and a Coffee
(Was in a rush)
Turkey Cheddar and veggie wrap no sauce (not by choice, I left the sauce at home
Pre workout snack I took some pb2 and protein powder and made it into a spread of sorts, it wasn't terrible lol, but definitely wasn't a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 32gm protein tho.
Got to the gym and it was crowded with a youth class so I went to the upstairs. (we got a extra little area with two power racks, a bench and a couple sets of dumbbells up to 90's. There was ppl up there and I kinda just felt like going home. That's not like me to do that very often, but I try not to make a big deal because I know I'm still going to do more then I'm supposed to 9 out of 10 times.
So I came home and ate chicken and rice lolView attachment 257488
With hot sauce of course.
Started taking 15gm of creatine mono per day, haven't used it in a while and idk why not, I think Im gonna buy a bunch and do 20-30 for the brain health stuff too. Been reading a lot of brain health and some Parkinson's stuff and it seems very promising just as a cheap supplement for your brain. I got a shitty short term memory and I fumble over my words sometimes. I know it's probably more to do with ADHD but it's all kinda linked. Hopefully il at least get some strength gains
Was listening to a podcast this morning on this subject
subweevil
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Toss some siracha on that omlette and we're good to go! Besides, isn't ketchup one of the four or five food groups (sorry counting was never my strongpoint, 5 out of 4 of my friends would agree).
Smont
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I agree, I think ketchup is up on top of the Pop-Tarts and zebra cakes in the food pyramid
Dustin07
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LOL beef tartar pops up so rarely on menus that when I see it, I have to have it. although tuna tartar is probably safer/better. Hell I think the last time I found beef tartar it was probably well over a decade ago with a raw quail egg on it. I truly like my meats cooked less rather than more, but I've always read that eggs and even red meats are far more effecient in terms of bioavailability (protein, aminos) than raw. My wife's gypsy family from Cali comes up with a french canadian that always swears by the raw diet. when he's in town he asks where the butcher is and tells me I need to go raw. I'm like dude.......... like half your meat is wasted if I understand the science.
Dustin07
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I don't thin you would like Uni at all then (sea urchin). it tastes great but texture is like snot lol
sammpedd88
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Oh damn I love poke. I was stationed in Hawaii in the early-mid 90’s and was eating poke bride it was heard of on the mainland. Love that stuff!
sammpedd88
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Looser than an oyster I’d assume? I love raw oysters.
Dustin07
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oh yeah I love oysters, the Uni is a texture challenge for even the bravest foodies imo lol
Hyde
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I didn’t mind raw oyster the one time I had it, and I did enjoy raw scallop at a sushi place once, but never even seen sea urchin.
I could probably do a single bite of most things, but that’s more from learning to swallow 20 pills at once & just checking that gag reflex one time no matter what lol. After the first handful, I need to do smaller amounts of pills if I have more still.
Dustin07
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I'm the same way. if I can get my first cup of coffee down first, brush the teeth etc then its easier to get a bunch of pills down fast otherwise i'm doing them onesies to keep from puking all over the mirror in the morning.we probably have a little more access to seafood than you guys being on the ocean/puget sound. I know we have a ton of urchin farms up here not far from me and oyster farms everywhere. I'd probably be careful of my seafood choices in the midwest. In your region I'm going to endulge on the things I can't get here, like catfish. I don't think I've seen catfish on the menu but once in puget sound.
Smont
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I know exactly what you mean, il still eat the poke bowl if it's there, but I would never order it. I also love sushi but I'm not a huge fan of cooked fish as weird as that is.
My favorite meal is definitely steak and sushi
Smont
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I think uni taste like low tide
, by the way, Uni isn't sea urchin, well....... Kinda, it's the sea urchins reproductive organs . And if you eat enough, you can get high too!
Dustin07
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lol man sushi costs so much that I likely won't eat enough of anything to get high off itI think uni taste like low tide
And if you eat enough, you can get high too!
they do have those all you can eat sushi bars out here but they aren't quite as good as the legit Japanese restaurants. actually, they've gone down hill here, more like a mcdonalds with no janitor.
sammpedd88
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We have two all you can eat sushi places that are awesome. I’ve been to some that are like gas station sushi. Won’t eat that shitt.lol man sushi costs so much that I likely won't eat enough of anything to get high off it
they do have those all you can eat sushi bars out here but they aren't quite as good as the legit Japanese restaurants. actually, they've gone down hill here, more like a mcdonalds with no janitor.
Hyde
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We have some delicious fried catfish all over the Midwest, and in the South. It’s not that great only baked in my opinion, but catfish were made for breading & frying.
My favorite restaurant in town is AYCE made to order sushi; $22 or something indecently affordable that could only be priced such here for the great quality. It’s so good.
Dustin07
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I just pulled up the Trappers menu and it's actually pretty close to that after all, but the last time we went in there it was pretty gross. not a clean table in the restaurant and the entire time we were there staff never did show up to clean so we kinda decided it was our last visit, lol.
The Best Sushi in Tacoma — Trapper's Sushi Co.
Come to Trapper's Sushi for the best food and service possible! From our mouth-watering Asian Fusion lunch and dinner menus, to our famous All You Can Eat sushi bar and the best Happy Hour in town, there’s something for everyone at Trapper’s.
www.trapperssushi.com
Hyde
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The place here is always clean as a whistle. Quiet, relaxing Asian music of some kind, and you can tell there’s a high degree of self-respect for their work & family-owned restaurant. We smile, nod, and I respectfully devour an entire platter of food like a sumo wrestler who just got done training.I just pulled up the Trappers menu and it's actually pretty close to that after all, but the last time we went in there it was pretty gross. not a clean table in the restaurant and the entire time we were there staff never did show up to clean so we kinda decided it was our last visit, lol.
The Best Sushi in Tacoma — Trapper's Sushi Co.
Come to Trapper's Sushi for the best food and service possible! From our mouth-watering Asian Fusion lunch and dinner menus, to our famous All You Can Eat sushi bar and the best Happy Hour in town, there’s something for everyone at Trapper’s.
Smont
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Yes I like it for cardio, I noticed improvements in that very quickly, unfortunately I never went over 5mg because I have some sinus issues and the medicine interacts with M blue. I didn't get any interactions but again, I used a minimum dose 2-5mg daily over the summer and again 5mg daily last month in November while I was cutting.
I'd like to try 10-15mg but I'm worried about possible interactions causing serotonin syndrome.
I'm probably way overthinking it and worried for no reason but I can't help it lol
Smont
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Ya I'm picky about where I go, no gas station sushi (Cumberland Farms has sushi at the gas stationlol man sushi costs so much that I likely won't eat enough of anything to get high off it
they do have those all you can eat sushi bars out here but they aren't quite as good as the legit Japanese restaurants. actually, they've gone down hill here, more like a mcdonalds with no janitor.
) or McSushi for me lol
Smont
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Damn...... My scale is off/over lol. I'm only 195 . I realized the difference on the gym scale last night so I checked a few different scales and used a new scale at the gym this morning and I'm 195 lol. My bathroom scale says 197.8 so it's about 3lbs off. Time for a new scale.
Today is a free day to eat whatever I want and tomorrow il get back to work in the gym and I think I got myself a training partner on the weekends but he's limited to availability during the week. I already started a program but I might need to change it to accommodate a training partner.
So my question to any of you that primarily train strength or gave in the past. What's your thoughts on hitting a full body on Saturdays and then during the week pick 3 more days for a PPL or any kind of split that'll hit the whole body over 3 days.
Or
Between Saturday and Sunday hit everything and then pick 2 week days to hit everything again. Like Tuesday I could bench and zurcher and add a 2 chest, 2 legs and a tricep move after. Thursday I could do weighted chins and a deadlift variation or a squat variation and finish with back and biceps, more legs if there not sore. By the end of the week I want my legs to be getting the most volume so without a leg day, I think I should hit them 2-3 times in smaller doses.
Any thoughts or criticism welcome.
. I realized the difference on the gym scale last night so I checked a few different scales and used a new scale at the gym this morning and I'm 195 lol. My bathroom scale says 197.8 so it's about 3lbs off. Time for a new scale. Today is a free day to eat whatever I want and tomorrow il get back to work in the gym and I think I got myself a training partner on the weekends but he's limited to availability during the week. I already started a program but I might need to change it to accommodate a training partner.
So my question to any of you that primarily train strength or gave in the past. What's your thoughts on hitting a full body on Saturdays and then during the week pick 3 more days for a PPL or any kind of split that'll hit the whole body over 3 days.
Or
Between Saturday and Sunday hit everything and then pick 2 week days to hit everything again. Like Tuesday I could bench and zurcher and add a 2 chest, 2 legs and a tricep move after. Thursday I could do weighted chins and a deadlift variation or a squat variation and finish with back and biceps, more legs if there not sore. By the end of the week I want my legs to be getting the most volume so without a leg day, I think I should hit them 2-3 times in smaller doses.
Any thoughts or criticism welcome.
Hyde
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So the first one where you do full body Saturday, that’s usually seen with some kind of an SBD day. Some guys basically would do a full mock meet (working up on comp lifts all the time which is super taxing), other people it’s a training day with some mix of comp lifts or variations. Like a comp squat, then closegrip bench, and finish with RDLs. Or all variants like Pause Squats, incline DB bench, and Stiff Leg Deadlifts. Or all comp lifts, but done for various sets and reps, not working up singles like a contest.
The latter is usually most of your American traditional upper/lower/upper/lower split. Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat or Tues/Thurs/Sat/Sun.
But it all just depends on what you’re trying to accomplish & prefer. One key thing to consider is you were talking about strength as a priority, but then considering your frequency from a hypertrophy perspective - those things are not the same. You might get more leg growth doing something for them 3x a week possibly, but you will not build your biggest squat variation typically squatting 3x a week, even variations. Statistically, 2x/wk is optimal frequency for most advanced lifters on squat variatons - even less like once per wk if there are orthopedic concerns meaning joints aren’t recovered enough in only 3-4 days. Pressing is 3-4x/wk for most, and deadlifts are once, usually with a variation as well somewhere.
So you could Zercher once or twice, and have a third day legs get hit, but it’s important you set it up so the main Zercher day can be done with legs fresh & fully recovered. The other leg stuff could be done after only 48 hours or so if needed, vs the ideal 72 hours+.
The latter is usually most of your American traditional upper/lower/upper/lower split. Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat or Tues/Thurs/Sat/Sun.
But it all just depends on what you’re trying to accomplish & prefer. One key thing to consider is you were talking about strength as a priority, but then considering your frequency from a hypertrophy perspective - those things are not the same. You might get more leg growth doing something for them 3x a week possibly, but you will not build your biggest squat variation typically squatting 3x a week, even variations. Statistically, 2x/wk is optimal frequency for most advanced lifters on squat variatons - even less like once per wk if there are orthopedic concerns meaning joints aren’t recovered enough in only 3-4 days. Pressing is 3-4x/wk for most, and deadlifts are once, usually with a variation as well somewhere.
So you could Zercher once or twice, and have a third day legs get hit, but it’s important you set it up so the main Zercher day can be done with legs fresh & fully recovered. The other leg stuff could be done after only 48 hours or so if needed, vs the ideal 72 hours+.
sammpedd88
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I think in the end you need to pick what you can sustain with your schedule. I know in that past you have gotten really busy with work so that will always factor in. But here just my .02, you could squat on Monday with quad focused accessory lifts and calves. Tuesday can be a heavy bench day with some shoulder and tricep accessories. Wednesday can be a cardio day with abs, Thursday deadlift with hamstrings, back and calves. Friday cardio, and Saturday you can do a volume focused bench day and rotate heavy deadlifts or heavy squats. You could also do your Zercher walks you’ve been doing on this day. I do something very similar to this. I bench twice every week but every other week you either squat twice or deadlift twice. It saves on my 52 year old ass. But it really comes down to what fits you and gets the goals accomplished. Oh, and throw biceps in there somewhere. I swear I hate working them.Damn...... My scale is off/over lol. I'm only 195
Today is a free day to eat whatever I want and tomorrow il get back to work in the gym and I think I got myself a training partner on the weekends but he's limited to availability during the week. I already started a program but I might need to change it to accommodate a training partner.
So my question to any of you that primarily train strength or gave in the past. What's your thoughts on hitting a full body on Saturdays and then during the week pick 3 more days for a PPL or any kind of split that'll hit the whole body over 3 days.
Or
Between Saturday and Sunday hit everything and then pick 2 week days to hit everything again. Like Tuesday I could bench and zurcher and add a 2 chest, 2 legs and a tricep move after. Thursday I could do weighted chins and a deadlift variation or a squat variation and finish with back and biceps, more legs if there not sore. By the end of the week I want my legs to be getting the most volume so without a leg day, I think I should hit them 2-3 times in smaller doses.
Any thoughts or criticism welcome.
Smont
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