Tell Us What You Would Like to see From SNS, CEL, Muscle Addiction, & XPG (2025 Edition)

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BigGame84 said:
It's already live. Unfortunately there are a lot of OOS items right now. Which I know is beyond Steve's control.
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Yeah, we do the best we can to keep things in stock, but the tariff situation has caused a ton of supply chain issues. The super high Chinese ones put everything in the industry behind and then the India ones messed things up even worse. It's not just the tariffs themselves, its that it has put manufacturing so behind. Also, things that used to clear Customs in a day or two are taking weeks, in some cases a month or more.

It especially effects unique ingredients and has even affected a lot of branded ingredients.

Overall, the out of stock level is low percentage wise related to the number of products we have - but I hate being out of stock of anything.

We have gotten a lot of things back in lately, but its a process.
 
jtgoshaff said:
Is anabolic xt going to restock? I see there is a special on it but the multi pack is out of stock
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Here is a link to the Black Friday thread: https://anabolicminds.com/community...rmance-gels-massive-black-friday-sale.340388/

It had just sold out. We do have more on order, but I'm not sure if it will come back in during the sale or not. I just can't make any promises bc of all the supply chain issues now.

We've been asked if we would allow pre-orders on some of the things we are out of stock on so that people can take advantage of the deals. I normally don't like to do that, but am considering it.
 
Madevilz said:
New name for Nattybolic?
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Nattybolic will definitely be named Nattybolic, I love the name.

The only reason the original idea for it became BASIS was because the acronym "Building a Solid Infrastructure" was too good to pass up because it described BASIS so well.
 
I feel like if I remember correctly Super Natural is going to be the new pre from SNS. Excited to see that, whatever it’s named! 👍
 
I think it would be interesting if you came out with a hair growing formula. Topical or pills.
 
HTGduck said:
Is the caffeine free version just lacking caffeine or all the stimulants?
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Focus XT Caffeine-Free doesn't contain the caffeine and NeuroRush.

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I'll probably ask again in the 2026 addition, but how about that Libido XT?
 
Ape McGrapes said:
I'll probably ask again in the 2026 addition, but how about that Libido XT?
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The formula, labels, etc. are all complete and it's just a matter of moving forward on it.

As many know, and I've explained it in detail a few times, this year has been a really screwed up year for the industry and supply chain. The tariff situation caused so many delays and companies to get behind on production and most are still trying to get caught up. It's not just the tariffs themselves, but many things that used to clear Customs right away are taking weeks, sometimes months.

Our focus has been getting things back in stock/keeping things in stock bc of all of this.

New products are fun and exciting, but the emphasis has to be on existing sellers being in stock.

It's not that we wanted to delay Libido Boost XT, or anything, but no one knew all this tariff stuff was going to be like this. It's hurt many companies more than the entire pandemic did.

We hope to have Libido Boost XT available by the end of Q1 of 2026, along with quite a few more things.
 
sns8778 said:
The formula, labels, etc. are all complete and it's just a matter of moving forward on it.

As many know, and I've explained it in detail a few times, this year has been a really screwed up year for the industry and supply chain. The tariff situation caused so many delays and companies to get behind on production and most are still trying to get caught up. It's not just the tariffs themselves, but many things that used to clear Customs right away are taking weeks, sometimes months.

Our focus has been getting things back in stock/keeping things in stock bc of all of this.

New products are fun and exciting, but the emphasis has to be on existing sellers being in stock.

It's not that we wanted to delay Libido Boost XT, or anything, but no one knew all this tariff stuff was going to be like this. It's hurt many companies more than the entire pandemic did.

We hope to have Libido Boost XT available by the end of Q1 of 2026, along with quite a few more things.
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Great news! I think literally everyone is eager for Libido Xt. any chance on a possible (I understand it’s a rough estimate) time frame for the nitrate supplement?
 
AndroRage said:
Hey Bro, do you know when any UK retailer will have XPG Supress C in stock??

Any help appreciated.

Thank you.
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We have it in stock on our end and haven't had any out of stock issues on it, so any of them that are out of stock on it are out of stock because they haven't ordered it.

Unreal doesn't show it listed anymore. Predator and Evolution show out of stock. Hopefully they will place an order soon.

Muscle Lab shows it in stock - https://www.muscle-lab.de/products/xpg-suppress-c-cortisol-gel

Body Shock shows it in stock, but I'll be honest and say that I have no idea how it would be in stock, as they haven't ordered anything from us in forever. It's same thing that always happens with them - they will place an order, sell a lot, maybe place a reorder, sell through most of it quick, then we won't hear from them for a year. They won't order, reply to emails, nothing. It's odd to me bc of how fast most of the items sells when they have them in stock.

We have the Black Friday Sale going right now, which is 25% off and we have it on the SNS site as single units and discounted multi-packs:
I'll email Predator tomorrow and see when they plan to place another order.
 
3ChainedAminos said:
Great news! I think literally everyone is eager for Libido Xt. any chance on a possible (I understand it’s a rough estimate) time frame for the nitrate supplement?
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I hope so. I'm interested to see how it will sell.

I'm not sure which you're asking about. We are going to be doing several different types of pre's.
 
sns8778 said:
We will be releasing Apigenin XT in the next couple weeks. It's here, I just need to finish the write up and some articles for it.

I want to do a healthy aging/longevity line of some formulas and some single ingredients. I had hoped to do that this year, but its been a brutal year on the industry with the tariff situation causing so many delays and ingredients not being available or if they were, the prices at times were brutal.

I keep trying to figure out a label style for the healthy aging/longevity line too. I can't decide if want to go with a white bottle/white label or black bottle/black label look for it.
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Hey Steve, do you plan on releasing apigenin xt soon?
 
3ChainedAminos said:
I thought there was hinted a straight nitrates supplement, I might be mistaken though.
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No worries, but I definitely never said or hinted at that.

If using the patented nitrates, that's not allowed, so I would never think about doing that.

You may have seen where people have asked us about doing one of the ones where some companies try to skirt around the patents, and I usually don't reply or nicely explain that we aren't interested in doing that.

We are considering using them in some of the upcoming pre's.
 
NutButter said:
Hey Steve, do you plan on releasing apigenin xt soon?
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Yes, we will. It's the same as Api-Plex, just under SNS and more caps.

I've been trying to finish the write up and cover more of the healthy aging info, but just haven't had time. I may just go ahead and release it and finish all that info later.
 
sns8778 said:
No worries, but I definitely never said or hinted at that.

If using the patented nitrates, that's not allowed, so I would never think about doing that.

You may have seen where people have asked us about doing one of the ones where some companies try to skirt around the patents, and I usually don't reply or nicely explain that we aren't interested in doing that.

We are considering using them in some of the upcoming pre's.
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sns8778 said:
No worries, but I definitely never said or hinted at that.

If using the patented nitrates, that's not allowed, so I would never think about doing that.

You may have seen where people have asked us about doing one of the ones where some companies try to skirt around the patents, and I usually don't reply or nicely explain that we aren't interested in doing that.

We are considering using them in some of the upcoming pre's.
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Understood, Thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
sns8778 said:
Yes, we will. It's the same as Api-Plex, just under SNS and more caps.

I've been trying to finish the write up and cover more of the healthy aging info, but just haven't had time. I may just go ahead and release it and finish all that info later.
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I vote to release it now before the black friday sale ends
 
sns8778 said:
We have it in stock on our end and haven't had any out of stock issues on it, so any of them that are out of stock on it are out of stock because they haven't ordered it.

Unreal doesn't show it listed anymore. Predator and Evolution show out of stock. Hopefully they will place an order soon.

Muscle Lab shows it in stock - https://www.muscle-lab.de/products/xpg-suppress-c-cortisol-gel

Body Shock shows it in stock, but I'll be honest and say that I have no idea how it would be in stock, as they haven't ordered anything from us in forever. It's same thing that always happens with them - they will place an order, sell a lot, maybe place a reorder, sell through most of it quick, then we won't hear from them for a year. They won't order, reply to emails, nothing. It's odd to me bc of how fast most of the items sells when they have them in stock.

We have the Black Friday Sale going right now, which is 25% off and we have it on the SNS site as single units and discounted multi-packs:
I'll email Predator tomorrow and see when they plan to place another order.
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Thanks for detailed response.
 
Johnanthab178 said:
Does Sns/cel sell anything that’s good for facial bloating or bloating in general?
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It depends on what would be causing the bloating. If it is estrogen related, Inhibit-E would be a good option.
 
Have you ever considered releasing a solo ChloroSap or using it in another formula? I remember enjoying chlorophytum borivilianum when Analyzed(PES) released their ChloroTest. Of course that was like 15 years ago.

Who makes Chlorsap BTW? Couldn't find much of anything on it other than Growth Factor. Or is it a SNS trademark?
 
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Ape McGrapes said:
Have you ever considered releasing a solo ChloroSap or using it in another formula? I remember enjoying chlorophytum borivilianum when Analyzed(PES) released their ChloroTest. Of course that was like 15 years ago.

Who makes Chlorsap BTW? Could find much of anything on it.
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I've thought about it, but I'm not sure it would sell well enough to justify it.

It's on my list of ones that I revisit and think about doing from time to time though.

The problem in today's market is you can put out a great single ingredient extract and then some brand comes along and puts out an herb powder form and most people don't know the difference so they buy that because its cheaper and then it doesn't work and then they go and say such and such doesn't work - when a lot of the time, there was little to no active in it so of course it didn't.
 
I haven't done a 2026 version of this thread. I normally do one every year, but the participation level has been down in the thread and on AM in general.

Anyone is welcome to continue to post ideas in this thread if they would like.

We have some cool things coming and actually long term things planned out, the first priority is just getting everything back stocked from all the tariff and supply chain issues of last year.
 
sns8778 said:
The first priority is just getting everything back stocked from all the tariff and supply chain issues of last year.
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I 100% Assumed this was why. I imagine you are tired of repeating this over and over again.

I'm a hold out for Libido XT and more flavors of Focus XT. Really enjoying Cherry Punch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about the daily, all in one ergogenic, as well. Let's call it Daily Gainz XT.
 
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What is in the works for natural muscle builder side?Do we have anything apart from nattybolic which supposedly is near.
 
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