Donald Trump running for president
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ax1
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This man vvv just needs a few more tweeks towards pure Libertarian ideals, he would be really good leader for the Libertarian Party...he has more work to do, and I dunno if he has natural desire to be pure Libertarian but he is really getting there....we would need to clean out/transform the "Republican Lights" out of our party while we are at it, they have been destroying us. I mean, techinically I consider Carlson a "Republican Light" but I just think he is getting really close.
Renew1
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I'm not a Cruz follower or supporter (I support actions, rather than people. ... Everyone does "good and "bad" things).
But 1 .... He was 18.
2 .... He was obviously making jokes, as he started off by saying, "Aspirations... Is that like, the sweat on my butt"?
If there were any videos of me at 18 ... Some of them would Definitely be less than flattering.
.... Thankfully, there aren't.
LOL
BamBam54
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I would give him a pass on aspirations... but the world domination stuff is disturbing given his future professional career and run for presidency (illegal as that was, since he isn't a natural born citizen)
ax1
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ax1
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I didnt know he wasnt a natural born citizen.
TheViking
lurking AM since -04
I’m just stating the facts. Social justice is a measure of freedom. You're the one advocating for heavy law enforcement, until it turns on you.
As a fun fact: the majority of Americans are of immigrant ancestry. Immigrants built the United States. You should read up on your history, there’s a reason why you can sit safely on your porch smoking weed.
BamBam54
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"Legal Immigrants"
Statue of Liberty processing.
Not illegally sneaking in across the Rio Grande.
TheViking
lurking AM since -04
Tell me, if you were an anchor baby, wouldn’t you fight for your parents if they were facing deportation?
ax1
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I actually am a living anchor baby, gotta say Id be pretty pissed about that one.
Made in Sicily born in America! lol
ax1
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Ah Im all good, mother passed but father abandoned his green card and living the rest of his days in Sicily now. Went back a couple years ago, no real estate tax and doesnt have to pay for health care.....well he does pay for healthcare, he has to pay doctors under the books to expedite some of the important visits from months and months to within weeks.Don't tell Trump!
BamBam54
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Anchor babies can stay, if they turn in their parents. Illegal parents gotta go. Or they can stay a family and all go together. Just like any other criminal family.
But what do you really care, you don't even live here
Jiigzz
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Fair enough, but I think they key points is that if you are Ok for any govt to use it's military on its citizens, then remember, one day the other side will do it against you.
People forget that. What you allow to happen to one person just because you disagree with them, that will one day be you the govt disagrees with.
Anabolic66
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The National Guard is doing the job its paid to do. Unruly mobs can get out of hand, very dangerous.
They are not sending "military" after law-abiding people. The are looting, burning, rioting.
Tons are not even citizens. Cops are very outnumbered, of course the guard can go in to help (and do its job).
Loony libs are brainless...
BamBam54
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It happens all the time, even in the most remote inconsequential places in the world....
ax1
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Tucker unsheeped himself, witnessed it with my own eyes over the years. Who will unsheep themselves next? I remember many years ago back in the day when Alex invited him in studio and he had an open mind and visited, Alex showed him the video of the controlled demolition of building 7 for the first time I knew that was a big moment for him.
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Jiigzz
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Marines in LA
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Jiigzz
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That's really the basis for your criticism? LOL.
You guys reemed out Obama for wearing a tan suit, and now you dislike someone for a bowtie? Ever thought of disliking someone for something like hanging out with a sex trafficker?
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TheViking
lurking AM since -04
I just can't wrap my head around why the US would deport the parents of citizens, especially when they've lived in the country for like 20–30 years, are integrated, and have paid taxes. Maybe the issue here isn't immigration itself, but rather the U.S. practice of jus soli. In most countries around the world, at least one parent must be a citizen for a child to acquire citizenship at birth.
ax1
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I had no idea he was that bad, still hard to believe….it was BAD!
Cruz should be impeached and jailed, can bunk beds with Trump for multiple war crimes and participating in genocide along with any other political accomplice who votes for these policies.
TheViking
lurking AM since -04
The head of the IAEA is warning that Israel's bombings of nuclear facilities could lead to a uranium meltdown. For anyone interested, read up on Chernobyl, or better yet, watch the series.
Jiigzz
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It is really bad. Have you seen some of the comments from Piers Morgan? He justifies the killing of children in his interview with Tucker.
Republicans are wild. Anti-abortion, but pro killing kids in war.
And check out this video of an Israeli defending the killing of "offspring"
ax1
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I’ll check it out on my ride home in a bit from NYC, Piers has a really terrific platform!
ax1
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That is the big hypocrisy I call myself, anti-abortion so fine whatever…..but have no problem starving and bombing 1/2 a million billion babies and children tomorrow just calling it collateral damage just because it gives them the illusion it’s making them feel safe.
rtmilburn
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I know this is irrelevant but is @hairygrandpa still alive and doing well?. I've been away long enough I just need answers
ax1
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Wow haven’t heard that name in years….hope he is well but have no idea. He’s a real cool dude.
ax1
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Thats also a very fair point, that kinda goes in the realm of "staged" possibilities (Pearl Harbor style) we can narrow it down to, and probably more likely scenario. After all Egypt and the US supposedly already gave Israel the heads up the attack was going to happen.....in which lets all remember again, by the very group Netenyahu financed and created to oppose the Palestine Authority to cause split divisions inside of Palestine but that is a separate topic Im venting about.
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Beau
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Probably because (i) they are here illegally, (ii) there is no statute of limitations on illegally entering the United States, and (iii) the annual cost incurred by taxpayers associated with those who have entered the country illegally is estimated at $150 Billion.
TheViking
lurking AM since -04
Well, with the "Big Beautiful Bill," ICE will be given $75 billion over the next five years, not to mention the estimated $275 billion that California will lose, according to researchers, due to the absence of immigrants in the construction, agriculture, and service sectors. Added to the mix are the psychological effects on anchor babies who have seen their parents deported. It’s a great combo. I'm really ecstatic about what the future holds.
BamBam54
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Estimates about what the agriculture sector will lose are ridiculous!! Biden let almost 10 million illegal aliens into the country in the last 4 years. The agriculture industry was working fine before those 10 million illegals were pumped in, and will work fine when they are removed.
We STILL let in 1 million immigrants the legal way every year.
If the anchor babies can't handle losing their illegal parents, they are welcome to leave with them. We don't need any more psychologically damaged liberals here to go along with the transgenders and blue haired weirdos.....
Beau
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California is a mess, I know, firsthand. If California will lose $275 billion, then that loss would have been ill-gotten gains in the first place -- since it would have been generated in violation of federal, state and local laws, as well as wage and hour laws, and - unquestionably - a good portion of that money would have been (i) un-taxed because it was paid ill-legally under the table, and/or (ii) lost to our economy because the money would have been sent back to their land of origin. The parents own any psychological effects on anchor babies because those parents knew that they were illegally staying in a country without proper authority, and they chose to take that chance. So much for good parenting - modeling behavior that teaches children that it is OK to be dishonest and break laws. Those parents knowingly and willingly chose to put the longevity of their intact family at jeopardy by knowingly staying in a country illegally. In CA, illegal immigrants receive free medical, benefits, food stamps, and on and on .... and ALL students can receive free breakfast and lunch, and daycare. The reality is this -- that is not financially sustainable. If we are concerned about economic loss in California, let’s be more concerned about what a California bankruptcy would look like (the unfunded liability of the teacher's pension alone could do that). California is a fiscal nightmare. And the worst is yet to come. And then there is the cost of gas and utilities ....
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TheViking
lurking AM since -04
Of course it was. As of 2021, an estimated 73% of farmworkers in the US were born outside the country. I don't think you understand the correlation between a child and their parents. It's all right, though, but this isn't taking the discussion any further.
Beau
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I'm out - I rarely participate in these discussions, and when I do, it is not to prompt negativity - it is merely an attempt to interject personal experience. Of course these situations are heartbreaking - but, at some point, the "feelings" associated with the issue need to be weighed against the cost, and long term impact. What is going on is not financially sustainable. In the past, I have taken a young man into our home and made him a part of our family - after he aged out of Foster Care. He lived with us, at no cost to him whatsoever, for 5 1/2 years while he got his undergraduate degree. That type of personal involvement and giving, IMO, is virtuous and needed. And I didn't care what it cost, it was worth it and I chose to allocate my money towards his well being. But the Government trying to look magnanimous by giving tax payer money to people who are not US citizens nor here legally, and doing so with a hidden agenda, is fiscally irresponsible political manipulation.
TheViking
lurking AM since -04
You should tell your fellow Americans who employ these immigrants to make money. I’ll excuse your lack of understanding. For parents to try to give their child a better chance in life is not bad parenting; it’s quite the opposite. I’ve noticed that the U.S. is becoming increasingly individualistic. Let me rephrase: Without all the immigrants, the very people on whom the U.S. was built, would you really be a happier nation? Is immigration, the very foundation of your country, truly your biggest concern?