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Holding water in LGD?

Been taking 12mg ed for a bit over a week. In that week dispite lowering sodium, I noticed my abs are not as cut as when I started. Could it be water retention from the LGD or just flatness from the T3/Clen. Currently at 50mcg T3 dosed 25mcg AM and 25mcg in the afternoon while at 60mcg Clen. Also running epiandro at 600mgs. I still get pretty decent but evasive pumps in the gym. Never ran LGD or T3 before though. Anyone experience mild water retention from LGD?
 
I would wager ive used more lgd then anyone else here. Ive inject up to 60mg a day and oral up to 60mg a day. Ive done 80mg a day of the 2 combined. Doses ive used as low as 10mg too. I find anything less then 20 pointless for myself so i usually reccomend 20 as a starting point for men. When I say these doses people act like it's crazy but they think that way because they have no clue how these things work we know on a milligram versus milligram basis they are weaker than your traditional orals, on par with var or tbol at best. Well, what would happen if you took 10-20mg of anadrol per day, the answer is close to nothing unless You've never used anything before in your life or you're a female. So why would we expect lodocious of sarms to provide something worthwhile unless were new to anabolics or genetic high responders to gear And if you are a high responder to gear you'll look like a body builder or at least jacked after a cycle or 2, most of us need a few years of cycling to look like that And there's people who are on steroids for years who never even look like they work out.



So with all that said, And I apologize for getting so far off-topic, I don't notice much water attention from LGD although some people do. But it wouldn't be enough to wash out my abs unless my abs were barely showing to begin with and I'm gonna guess that clen and T3 are responsible. Theres a stage when cutting where your in this small flat looking stage and you gotta fight through it to really get ripped, then you fill back out and look great. If im around 12-15% and cutting its usually here that it happns. I gotta get down a little bit leaner or fill back out but when I'm in between I look small and flat and it's just part of the game so you may also be in that stage.
 
Reading back through this I have a lot of typos From using the talk to text feature so if something's not clear that's why my bad lol
 
I would wager ive used more lgd then anyone else here. Ive inject up to 60mg a day and oral up to 60mg a day. Ive done 80mg a day of the 2 combined. Doses ive used as low as 10mg too. I find anything less then 20 pointless for myself so i usually reccomend 20 as a starting point for men. When I say these doses people act like it's crazy but they think that way because they have no clue how these things work we know on a milligram versus milligram basis they are weaker than your traditional orals, on par with var or tbol at best. Well, what would happen if you took 10-20mg of anadrol per day, the answer is close to nothing unless You've never used anything before in your life or you're a female. So why would we expect lodocious of sarms to provide something worthwhile unless were new to anabolics or genetic high responders to gear And if you are a high responder to gear you'll look like a body builder or at least jacked after a cycle or 2, most of us need a few years of cycling to look like that And there's people who are on steroids for years who never even look like they work out.



So with all that said, And I apologize for getting so far off-topic, I don't notice much water attention from LGD although some people do. But it wouldn't be enough to wash out my abs unless my abs were barely showing to begin with and I'm gonna guess that clen and T3 are responsible. Theres a stage when cutting where your in this small flat looking stage and you gotta fight through it to really get ripped, then you fill back out and look great. If im around 12-15% and cutting its usually here that it happns. I gotta get down a little bit leaner or fill back out but when I'm in between I look small and flat and it's just part of the game so you may also be in that stage.
Yeah I’m guessing it’s the clen/t3. I agree with the dose thing as well but I’m just taking both epiandro and LGD to 1) slow down the catabolism from both t3 and a pretty steep deficit, and 2) not let my workouts completely suck lol

And the doses and not going higher are mostly because I’m poor and already had these compounds on hand and also didn’t want to over tax my body too much just yet. I can still see my abs and am still dropping weight, but they definitely have a blur to them now if that makes sense vs a dryer cut look before.
 
Any changes day to day or time of day?. Like many times il wake dry and sharp looking and by noon a got a blurrd outline to my abs and by dinner i gotta flex to see them. But the next morning there back. This happens to me quite a bit
 
Any changes day to day or time of day?. Like many times il wake dry and sharp looking and by noon a got a blurrd outline to my abs and by dinner i gotta flex to see them. But the next morning there back. This happens to me quite a bit
I base everything off my right out of bed look. I wake up, I pee, I weigh myself, and I do a mirror check. Obviously do flexing and stuff in my home gym mirror later on in the day but I gauge progress off first thing in the morning. I’m so locked into my cut right now I eat the same things everyday just because it makes counting calories so much easier. I’m thinking it’s the t3 because I couldn’t get a chest pump to save my damn life today lol 😂 I am thinking that because I’m only doing 12mg ed of LGD to just drop it and up the epiandro to 900mgs ed just to satisfy my curiosity if it is the LGD. If it isn’t, no big loss. In my opinion at least
 
Lower the t3 a tad, are you able to split a dose and do 25-37.5mg, I know guys who use 25mg t3 with 100mg t4 and they never go up. Ive used 37.5mg a few times and it seemed to work just the same for fat loss. Oddly enough these days ive written off clen completely cus it gives me cramps i cant control witj normal measures and when i do use t3 i start at 12.5 and i definitely notice i start running a little hotter
 
Lower the t3 a tad, are you able to split a dose and do 25-37.5mg, I know guys who use 25mg t3 with 100mg t4 and they never go up. Ive used 37.5mg a few times and it seemed to work just the same for fat loss. Oddly enough these days ive written off clen completely cus it gives me cramps i cant control witj normal measures and when i do use t3 i start at 12.5 and i definitely notice i start running a little hotter
I will try that. Only side I ever notice from Clen is just shakes. Cramps very infrequently past 125mcg. I try and stay conservative now though just for health
 
I will try that. Only side I ever notice from Clen is just shakes. Cramps very infrequently past 125mcg. I try and stay conservative now though just for health
Even at 60mcg i was getting cramps more often. Tried to fix a bunch of possibilities but nothing worked so i nixed it.
 
Been taking 12mg ed for a bit over a week. In that week dispite lowering sodium, I noticed my abs are not as cut as when I started. Could it be water retention from the LGD or just flatness from the T3/Clen. Currently at 50mcg T3 dosed 25mcg AM and 25mcg in the afternoon while at 60mcg Clen. Also running epiandro at 600mgs. I still get pretty decent but evasive pumps in the gym. Never ran LGD or T3 before though. Anyone experience mild water retention from LGD?
bro like Smont said you wont really get much from lgd at lower doses. ive had best results at 60 oral
 
bro like Smont said you wont really get much from lgd at lower doses. ive had best results at 60 oral
Not trying to get get much of anything out from it except extra protection from the t3 catabolism which is only at 50mcg ed.

Btw @Smont dropped the LGD and it was in fact that causing the definition loss in my abs. Pretty crazy
 
Not trying to get get much of anything out from it except extra protection from the t3 catabolism which is only at 50mcg ed.

Btw @Smont dropped the LGD and it was in fact that causing the definition loss in my abs. Pretty crazy
Just curious how long ago you pulled it, cus lgd has a 3 day half life. It takes about 15 days to clear your system. So it could be the lgd, but if its only been a few days its its likely not the lgd and a coincidence. Either way, the dose you were taking wasn't gonna have many positive effects on muscle growth or preservation so no harm in dropping it. Probably a good thing
 
Just curious how long ago you pulled it, cus lgd has a 3 day half life. It takes about 15 days to clear your system. So it could be the lgd, but if its only been a few days its its likely not the lgd and a coincidence. Either way, the dose you were taking wasn't gonna have many positive effects on muscle growth or preservation so no harm in dropping it. Probably a good thing
5 days so maybe just a coincidence maybe just adding in the extra epiandro but eh I’m where I want to be so win win either way
 
5 days so maybe just a coincidence maybe just adding in the extra epiandro but eh I’m where I want to be so win win either way
Actually, the dose was so low that by day 5 you probably only had a mg or 2 in your system. So you might be right, adding more epiandro could have helped too. Either way seems like all positive things happen so crack on
 
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