Now just to decide which Epi to get
XPG's Epiandro Gel
CEL's Stano-Plex
Muscle Addiction's Epi-Andro Lean
XPG's Epiandro Gel
CEL's Stano-Plex
Muscle Addiction's Epi-Andro Lean
I'm confused and want to clarify something here.When I was looking into it I was planning a 12-16 week run of 600-900mg each day split between two applications about 12 hours apart alongside a cycle support supp, followed by a PCT of Clomid with Aromasin on hand and an M-Test+AE stack.
But from what I'm hearing hear I might not need the Clomid or Aromasin and be able to recover my HPTA just fine from the same above EpiAndro cycle plan with a M-Test+Cloma-Plex stack?
Yes, 75 mg. per ml/pump.I truly doubt anything like that is necessary. Epiandrolean is dosed at 300mg per cap, with a recommended 2 caps per day. I've been hitting 3 caps a day. (@sns8778 what's the dosing on xpg epiandro, is it like 75mg per pump?)
I would personally reduce the length of the epiandro cycle, if its your first one, to 8 weeks.So, with this new info, I'm thinking...
Weeks 1-12 (On)
Epi-Andro 600mg-900mg
(Dose dependant on feel/sides)
CEL Cycle Assist
CEL M-Test
Weeks 11-19 (PCT)
CEL M-Test
CEL Cloma-Plex
CEL PCT Assist or OL's Kings PCT
CEL Anabolic Effect or SNS Prime-XT
(Dependant on how the next 8-12 weeks go)
Everyone is different when it comes to DHT. I'm very prone to hair loss and I never noticed shedding at 600 mg. or 900 mg. I would go 600 mg. to stay on the safe side though if you're very prone to it. That's if oral dose. If going with topical, I'd try 150 mg. to 225 mg. to start.My scalp gets itchy and my hair wants to fall out by just thinking about DHT haha. How detrimental is epi to those prone? is there a "hair safe" dose? I got a bottle maybe 2 of stanoplex and I think 1 or 2 of the XPG epi andro gel pumps for when I get brave enough to run and say screw my hair. As an example of how prone I am, DHEA seems to thin my hair which sucks, as I generally like DHEA and how it makes me feel.
It's hard to go wrong either way.Now just to decide which Epi to get
XPG's Epiandro Gel
CEL's Stano-Plex
Muscle Addiction's Epi-Andro Lean
Yes, oral DHEA. I will snag some of the topical XPG DHEA at some point and give it a go. Thank you, sir.Everyone is different when it comes to DHT. I'm very prone to hair loss and I never noticed shedding at 600 mg. or 900 mg. I would go 600 mg. to stay on the safe side though if you're very prone to it. That's if oral dose. If going with topical, I'd try 150 mg. to 225 mg. to start.
When you say DHEA seems to thin your hair, do you mean oral DHEA? The reason that I ask is that a lot of people that say they see shedding with oral DHEA don't with topical DHEA like the XPG DHEA-50 Gel.
You're very welcome. If you like the feel of regular DHEA, I think you'll really like it.Yes, oral DHEA. I will snag some of the topical XPG DHEA at some point and give it a go. Thank you, sir.
600mg-900mg in total per day split between two-three doses,I'm confused and want to clarify something here.
When you say 600 to 900 mg, are you meaning topical dose?
If so, that is way too high of dosing for topical epiandrosterone.
Most people, especially for a first cycle will do an 8 week cycle.
The common oral dose is 600 mg. to 900 mg.
The common topical dose is 300 mg.
Yes, M-Test and Cloma-Plex would be a great PCT.
I feel like my experience with hair shedding is a lot stronger than anyone else I talk to. Just grab a bottle of that shampoo I posted. I actually found it for $13 at grocery outlet a while back and got more there too lol!My scalp gets itchy and my hair wants to fall out by just thinking about DHT haha. How detrimental is epi to those prone? is there a "hair safe" dose? I got a bottle maybe 2 of stanoplex and I think 1 or 2 of the XPG epi andro gel pumps for when I get brave enough to run and say screw my hair. As an example of how prone I am, DHEA seems to thin my hair which sucks, as I generally like DHEA and how it makes me feel.
I've used them all except stano.Now just to decide which Epi to get
XPG's Epiandro Gel
CEL's Stano-Plex
Muscle Addiction's Epi-Andro Lean
Epi is basically the only thing I've played with and I waited until I was 40 to do so after 25yrs of being a gym rat so I feel like my body absorbed it like a sponge and I got massive results. if epi is banned yeah, I feel like it will be a major bummer as well because I'm just not knowledgeable enough of the other stuff out there to know if I'd risk a run or not.To be honest when Steve announced Epi will stop I had mixed feelings...A little disappointment I did not try, a little relief that I will keep the natty status at 45 years old....
And now all this conversation to tempt me again..
And predator has again back in stock Epiandro and Epiandrolean....
The thing is I would trust only Steve in hormones and have to decide soon before it is gone forever...It is take it or leave it....
By the way on AXT now, around 2 weeks in starting to shine, incredible product , best one I have ever used...
that's how I live my life. I keep my supplements next to my tooth brush. I take half in the morning and I put the other half in a small container I take to work to finish throughout the day.600mg-900mg in total per day split between two-three doses,
If 600mg per day, it would be 300mg in the morning and 300mg in the evening, roughly 12 hours apart.
If 900mg per day, it would be 300mg in the morning, 300mg in the afternoon and 300mg in the evening, roughly eight hours apart.
Thanks. You said applications and that's what confused me because that terminology is usually used to refer to the topical form, and that dose would have been way too high for the topical form so I wanted to make sure to clarify.600mg-900mg in total per day split between two-three doses,
If 600mg per day, it would be 300mg in the morning and 300mg in the evening, roughly 12 hours apart.
If 900mg per day, it would be 300mg in the morning, 300mg in the afternoon and 300mg in the evening, roughly eight hours apart.
That half oral half transdermal sounds great, best of both worlds. Ease of use with the capsules and the enhanced absorbtion with the transdermal.I've used them all except stano.
This last run I combined oral with TD and I really liked that combo.
I would gladly run xpg epiandro + epiandrolean on my next run.
Sorry, yes, I should have worded it better. I think that for a first PH run, and with my work schedule as hectic as it is, it'd be best to go with the oral/capsules (Stano/EpiAndro Lean) for simplicity and ease of use/dosing.Thanks. You said applications and that's what confused me because that terminology is usually used to refer to the topical form, and that dose would have been way too high for the topical form so I wanted to make sure to clarify.
Your layout above looks correct for the capsules and is the way I do it myself.
that's how I saw it. plus it let me run a heavier dose of epi without having to find a ton of skin real estate or choke down more pills lol.That half oral half transdermal sounds great, best of both worlds. Ease of use with the capsules and the enhanced absorbtion with the transdermal.
Androgens FTMFW!it's kinda funny, I am not sure I notice any of these things under 1000mg / day but at 900-1000mg+ / day I do get increased aggression.
What I notice more than anything when on epi is muscular growth. I can tell I'm just thicker/plumpier. it stands out to me in my lats, arms, traps and abs.
fuckin' cannonball shoulders today man. I wanted to take a picture in the lockerroom so bad but there was like 3 men over 80 buck ass naked struggling to get their tighty whities back on so I didn't think it would go over well. But hell yeah I feel so much wider on epi. Just finished my 9 1/2 week run a day or two ago so I'm still riding my results a bit. Moved straight into a heavy dose of anabolic effect and phosphatidic acid xt to try to keep this going a bit.This is one of, if not my most. favorite effects of androgens. I get a hardness and fullness, within days, that just cannot be matched with anything else. Full and dense just makes you happy!
Xtreme Performance Gels doesn't specify the amount of Amentoflavone per ml. in Pump Gel.How much Amentoflavone is in 1ml of pump gel?
This is exactly why I snagged some of the CEL and XPG epi. Though in my case, my natty status has been gone since the wild west days of pro hormones. I didn't abuse them, and only did a couple runs, so no massive gains or anything like that, but I sure as heck didn't know what I was doing. (Looking at you, the Winny derivative, that most likely began my ever thinning hair! My hair really isn't terrible, to be honest, but slowly and surely it is wisping away) Good on you making it this far!To be honest when Steve announced Epi will stop I had mixed feelings...A little disappointment I did not try, a little relief that I will keep the natty status at 45 years old....
And now all this conversation to tempt me again..
And predator has again back in stock Epiandro and Epiandrolean....
The thing is I would trust only Steve in hormones and have to decide soon before it is gone forever...It is take it or leave it....
By the way on AXT now, around 2 weeks in starting to shine, incredible product , best one I have ever used...
I think they are both good ingredients and important to how well Pump Gel works, and I think that they both contribute to the pumps, fullness, and great endurance that people see from Pump Gel.Cool.. as a single ingredient which do you think produce better pumps and fullness.. Amentoflavone or triacetyl adenosine ..
I normally use 2 capsules per day myself. Some people love going up to 4 caps per day, especially during strength and endurance training periods. I plan on trying that next time I'm doing an endurance based training cycle myself.Ok.. think I'm going to grab some amentoflavone xt.. any benefits of going over 2 caps a day? Or 2 caps will be plenty to see benefits...
I'm guessing at 4 a day.. that would be 2am 2 pre workout?I normally use 2 capsules per day myself. Some people love going up to 4 caps per day, especially during strength and endurance training periods. I plan on trying that next time I'm doing an endurance based training cycle myself.
Amentoflavone XT is one of my staple supplements. I use 2 caps pre-workout for most workouts, but if I'm going heavy-heavy or training a lagging body part I'll take 1 cap with my pre-workout meal and another 2 or 3 caps pre-workout.I'm guessing at 4 a day.. that would be 2am 2 pre workout?
I've seen it done like that, which is how I would try it first and then I've also seen all of them done pre-workout.I'm guessing at 4 a day.. that would be 2am 2 pre workout?
Love AE. Looking forward to using again this summer. The muscle density, vascularity, and boost to training performance and recovery are things I always enjoy with it.all this talk about AE is getting me excited. My Memorial Day order is out for delivery right now, can't wait to pop those pills lol
Same here! One of my favorite natty products on the market today!Love AE. Looking forward to using again this summer
This is with epiandro you mean?it's kinda funny, I am not sure I notice any of these things under 1000mg / day but at 900-1000mg+ / day I do get increased aggression.
What I notice more than anything when on epi is muscular growth. I can tell I'm just thicker/plumpier. it stands out to me in my lats, arms, traps and abs.
4 caps AM. 4 caps PM.So, I have my Prime-XT bottles now.
Wonering how others are dosing theirs for the best results?
I was thinking 3 caps in the morning, on an empty stomach and then 3 caps in the evening with dinner, roughly 12 hours apart?
8 caps per day, instead of 6?4 caps AM. 4 caps PM.
Can't go wrong with Anabolic XT!Start of July let’s go
3 am (pre) 3 pm.So, I have my Prime-XT bottles now.
Wonering how others are dosing theirs for the best results?
I was thinking 3 caps in the morning, on an empty stomach and then 3 caps in the evening with dinner, roughly 12 hours apart?
yes sirThis is with epiandro you mean?
The dosage range is 6 to 9 capsules per day.So, I have my Prime-XT bottles now.
Wonering how others are dosing theirs for the best results?
I was thinking 3 caps in the morning, on an empty stomach and then 3 caps in the evening with dinner, roughly 12 hours apart?
So am I right in thinking that spacing them out evenly isn't really all that important as Prime-XT works more on an accumalative/build up effect basis?The dosage range is 6 to 9 capsules per day.
The common dosage setups that we are seeing are:
Here's a link to the main Prime XT thread for anyone reading that would like to see feedback:
- 3 caps twice per day
- 4 caps twice per day
- 3 caps twice per day + an additional 3 caps before workout (9 per day)
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That would be a fine way to space it out if doing 6 capsules per day.So am I right in thinking that spacing them out evenly isn't really all that important as Prime-XT works more on an accumalative/build up effect basis?
2 caps at 6am
(Upon waking/on empty)
2 caps at 6/6:30pm
(With dinner)
2 Caps at 9/9:30pm
(Pre-workout)
Thank you for all of the responses and info @sns8778That would be a fine way to space it out if doing 6 capsules per day.
It should be back in stock within the next couple of weeksThank you for all of the responses and info @sns8778
I'll probably bump it up to 3-3-3 once the next batch gets a confirmation date, instead of running the risk of running out.
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