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Is The Hi Tech Cyclosome Delivery System Legit?

Pegasus2016 said:
I can personally attest to the quality of Hi Tech Pharmaceuticals. Their Fadogia is the best on the market. I run their Testosterone 21 supplement which has Longjack and Fadogia and Cyclosome Delivery, and my testosterone levels increased significantly, and I have the numbers to prove it.
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thanks for the feedback.
 
When , how, and why is Fadogia good ?
I have a bottle but haven’t opened it yet ,
Good to use during or after a cycle of 4-Andro ? I’ve heard a lot about it on social media
 
BCseacow83 said:
"We were one of the first companies to offer Fadogia and I can tell you for a fact that raw material quality varies dramatically and the prices correspond to the quality - they can range from 12.00 per kg. to over 200.00 per kg."

Steve if you don't mind: When looking at an herb, in this case fadogia, what do the sellers differentiate between the various grades? What is the difference that causes such a wide price range? I understand in cases of % extract that something like 95% curcumin turmeric will cost more than a 5% but with fadogia we don't see a %. So what differences account for that wide spread in raw material costs? Thank you.
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It can vary by the herb, but in most cases it would be the concentration &/or active constituents, and in some cases the part of the herb used. There can be a massive difference in a concentrated extract versus just a non-standardized powder.

I'm sorry, normally I would go into a more detailed reply - but I'm done with this thread.
 
sns8778 said:
It can vary by the herb, but in most cases it would be the concentration &/or active constituents, and in some cases the part of the herb used. There can be a massive difference in a concentrated extract versus just a non-standardized powder.

I'm sorry, normally I would go into a more detailed reply - but I'm done with this thread.
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All good, I deleted as I had dejavu and remembered something. We can talk next time we talk. Thank you.
 
Columbo89 said:
Hey I got suckered into there sustanon and winstrol product now knowing they're crap do you know anyone state side who could help me out in acquiring the real deal
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Next time apply this "life hack" to all supplement purchases: Turn the bottle around, read the super duper secret box labeled "Supplement Facts" and learn/understand what the **** you are buying before you buy it. Never stop WINNING!
 
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just gonna leave it here…
Legit and affordable....
 
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I will be the first to say that a lot of their naming is flat out ridiculous and misleading and that some products are overpriced and severely under-dosed. However, I will also say they have a lot of great products that are really effective and still make phenibut sleep products and stuff like that you can’t find elsewhere. They also are so scrutinized and have a pharmaceutical manufacturing license along with being so scrutinized by the FDA that they actually put what’s on the label in the product
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I will be the first to say that a lot of their naming is flat out ridiculous and misleading and that some products are overpriced and severely under-dosed. However, I will also say they have a lot of great products that are really effective and still make phenibut sleep products and stuff like that you can’t find elsewhere. They also are so scrutinized and have a pharmaceutical manufacturing license along with being so scrutinized by the FDA that they actually put what’s on the label in the product
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I don’t really care about the labeling/naming. It is what it is. What I’ve seen from other brands they manufacture for is equally cheesy.

Overall I appreciate their presence. The Lipodrene line has some very solid stims and Mesomorph is solid as well. It’s nice to see that they’re brazen enough to push the limits of FDA compliance, usually by submitting a response to the warning letter but not taking their products off the market.
 
thescience said:
So Hi Tech has been cranking out some interesting products lately and a number of these have what is described as a Cyclosome delivery system. Is it a cyclodextrin bound ingredient? is a phytosome? it isnt obvious from their description. A given ingredient is not specifically listed as being bound or altered on the label, but Phosphatidylcholine and Hydroxpropyl-beta-cyclodextrin (HPBCD are listed under "other ingredients." Here's the thing though, Hi-Tech sells a number of really expensive dhea derivative products at like $80/bottle. wouldnt there be serious outrage if this system wasnt delivering the goods? anyone have any information on this? can anyone testify as to how the Cyclosome has delivered for them? is there any speculation how this type of dual delivery could even be possible?
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I will say the two nootropic products (Cognisport and Adderex) I have used by them with that delivery system has been very very good. They were much better than expected. With that said I wouldn’t buy any of their PH products even with their delivery system in it.
 
The thing is, they own the names (trademarked) Superdrol, Dianabol, etc.
So they can name them that. IF folks are dumb enough to buy them thinking its real D-bol, its not Hi-Tech's issue.
Its on the buyer for being brain-dead...
 
Anabolic66 said:
The thing is, they own the names (trademarked) Superdrol, Dianabol, etc.
So they can name them that. IF folks are dumb enough to buy them thinking its real D-bol, its not Hi-Tech's issue.
Its on the buyer for being brain-dead...
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In a weird way this stuff may actually protect some people from themselves. I don't personally believe in protecting idiots but if you can't sus out what is in these products when it is CLEARLY LABELED on the supp facts panel then, IMO, you have no business self administering drugs of any kind.
 
BCseacow83 said:
In a weird way this stuff may actually protect some people from themselves. I don't personally believe in protecting idiots but if you can't sus out what is in these products when it is CLEARLY LABELED on the supp facts panel then, IMO, you have no business self administering drugs of any kind.
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sounds about right. i imagine i have to take this advice and determine that if the ingredient isnt described as a phytosome on the label, then it's therefore just an ingredient with some choline added to it. i guess we're really talking about a non-delivery system being described as a delivery system. I agree with several people here that the brand has some gems, and that these products can work regardless of whether a delivery system is legit or not.
 
BCseacow83 said:
In a weird way this stuff may actually protect some people from themselves. I don't personally believe in protecting idiots but if you can't sus out what is in these products when it is CLEARLY LABELED on the supp facts panel then, IMO, you have no business self administering drugs of any kind.
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Bingo
 
thescience said:
sounds about right. i imagine i have to take this advice and determine that if the ingredient isnt described as a phytosome on the label, then it's therefore just an ingredient with some choline added to it. i guess we're really talking about a non-delivery system being described as a delivery system. I agree with several people here that the brand has some gems, and that these products can work regardless of whether a delivery system is legit or not.
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I said NOTHING of the sorts and you are misunderstanding what I wrote. I want no part in your quasi undercover attack of said delivery system. This whole thread you keep wanting to bait people into slamming the delivery system. I, as do you, lack the proper testing equipment to verify the delivery system one way or another.

Let me clarify and then bow out of this thread: If someone who can read, I assume people taking or attempting to take steroids can fucking read, and you read this on the Supplement Facts Panel:

17beta (3ketoethyl)-androstane-3-one, 17a-ol
4-androsten-3B-ol-17-one
3B-Hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one

And come to the concluding that, yup, this is Halotestin................................................if that is the case folks should stick to huffing paint and eating crayons.
 
BCseacow83 said:
I said NOTHING of the sorts and you are misunderstanding what I wrote. I want no part in your quasi undercover attack of said delivery system. This whole thread you keep wanting to bait people into slamming the delivery system. I, as do you, lack the proper testing equipment to verify the delivery system one way or another.

Let me clarify and then bow out of this thread: If someone who can read, I assume people taking or attempting to take steroids can fucking read, and you read this on the Supplement Facts Panel:

17beta (3ketoethyl)-androstane-3-one, 17a-ol
4-androsten-3B-ol-17-one
3B-Hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one

And come to the concluding that, yup, this is Halotestin................................................if that is the case folks should stick to huffing paint and eating crayons.
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yeah i know you were talking about that. i applied the sentiment to the delivery system. if the actives had been modified, they could have been labelled as such, but they arent. instead we have some other ingredients listed separately. i dont know if u.s. labelling laws require a phytosome to be labelled as such or not; one could hold out for a chance that a company might want to keep it vague to throw off competitors in not laying out the specifics of a delivery system, but im not. i have zero problems making that statement, dont need to bait anyone into it
 
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Its amazing - half the time I don't get notifications on threads I'm supposed to and yet I bet I've unsubscribed to this thread probably a half dozen times and I still get notifications for it - and this thread just makes me want to throw my computer down the hallway at this point.
 
BCseacow83 said:
I don't usually speak for others, but I do believe it's general bullshit that may be the root of the frustration Steve experiences on this stellar thread. Leave em be.
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That would be correct and a good way to put it - the general bullshit, along with the trolling and misinformation in this thread.
 
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