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Excelsior pre workout

Carolina Kid said:
Dare we say Excelsior is back?!

Come on Ruesco, Eva’s and MP, give us more than one purchase option!
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1 review on predator saying is too strong lol. Dang I don’t know if I should continue with my other bottles of smash amf. I rather use excelsior if indeed is back. Nothing but good reviews soo far.
 
Cryptocommander said:
1 review on predator saying is too strong lol. Dang I don’t know if I should continue with my other bottles of smash amf. I rather use excelsior if indeed is back. Nothing but good reviews soo far.
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I’d say switch back and forth I think it’s good to switch it up so your body doesn’t get too used to one or the other
 
cfisher52986 said:
To those of you that like Doomsday- I have a tub with 3 or 4 scoops missing I’ll sell for 50 bucks. In US
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Dear Predator Nutrition

I’m deeply sorry to report but you’re Pre workout is as useful as a Soap Sandwich - I’ve only had 3 or 4 scoops which unfortunately caused me to shite like a racehorse on laxatives
The 15mins of energy allowed me hide in a safe place before I explained to my wife just how much it cost me.

If you would be so gracious as to refund me in full and if I cough up the 3 or 4 scoops I’ll gladly re-deposit it in your undersized tub

Failing that can you swap me some unopened craze samples that apparently are still around in the predator office if you look in the right place .

Thanks
 
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Bernardhopkin said:
Dear Predator Nutrition

I’m deeply sorry to report but you’re Pre workout is as useful as a Soap Sandwich - I’ve only had 3 or 4 scoops which unfortunately caused me to shite like a racehorse on laxatives
The 15mins of energy allowed me hide in a safe place before I explained to my wife just how much it cost me.

If you would be so gracious as to refund me in full and if I cough up the 3 or 4 scoops I’ll gladly re-deposit it in your undersized tub

Failing that can you swap me some unopened craze samples that apparently are still around in the predator office if you look in the right place .

Thanks
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Hold the phone.

what’s this you say about unopened Craze samples? 😎
 
cfisher52986 said:
👍 sounds good. Do u still have any excelsior for sale
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Nope sold all the tubs at a loss. Never tried the OG but the new ones just had too many dirty sides for me. Kind of regret jumping on the 11/25 but everyone says it feels clean so hopefully that’s the case. Otherwise I will let this thread know! The doomsday stuff is just weird because it’s so effective for me. Was going to offer to buy people’s tubs on this thread instead of paying the crazy predator price. But I just have this feeling that there is more to the story than it hits some and not others. The opinions are so great or terrible with no middle ground that I feel like some tubs are good and others bad. I also fell into the trap of giving excelsior one more shot so went ahead and got both from predator.

I used my last doomsday scoop today (haven’t gone through a pre that fast in 10 years and I didn’t take more than1 scoop at a time ever I just loved it). I believe I’m the first and only on here to order a second tub so if it blows that will be a dead giveaway. I will also update on 11/25 excelsior. Should be here tomorrow it says
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Nope sold all the tubs at a loss. Never tried the OG but the new ones just had too many dirty sides for me. Kind of regret jumping on the 11/25 but everyone says it feels clean so hopefully that’s the case. Otherwise I will let this thread know! The doomsday stuff is just weird because it’s so effective for me. Was going to offer to buy people’s tubs on this thread instead of paying the crazy predator price. But I just have this feeling that there is more to the story than it hits some and not others. The opinions are so great or terrible with no middle ground that I feel like some tubs are good and others bad. I also fell into the trap of giving excelsior one more shot so went ahead and got both from predator.

I used my last doomsday scoop today (haven’t gone through a pre that fast in 10 years and I didn’t take more than1 scoop at a time ever I just loved it). I believe I’m the first and only on here to order a second tub so if it blows that will be a dead giveaway. I will also update on 11/25 excelsior. Should be here tomorrow it says
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I’m on my 3rd Doomsday tub (shared half of #2 with another person) and all 3 of mine have been good for me as well so far 🤷🏼‍♂️

That being said, that 11/25 excelsior…..legit good.
 
Carolina Kid said:
I’m on my 3rd Doomsday tub (shared half of #2 with another person) and all 3 of mine have been good for me as well so far 🤷🏼‍♂️

That being said, that 11/25 excelsior…..legit good.
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Ah you tried it already? Better than the other batches?
Maybe if I sell this doomsday I can put the
Money towards a new excelsior
Am I forgiving predator ? Guess I’m going soft in my old age
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Nope sold all the tubs at a loss. Never tried the OG but the new ones just had too many dirty sides for me. Kind of regret jumping on the 11/25 but everyone says it feels clean so hopefully that’s the case. Otherwise I will let this thread know! The doomsday stuff is just weird because it’s so effective for me. Was going to offer to buy people’s tubs on this thread instead of paying the crazy predator price. But I just have this feeling that there is more to the story than it hits some and not others. The opinions are so great or terrible with no middle ground that I feel like some tubs are good and others bad. I also fell into the trap of giving excelsior one more shot so went ahead and got both from predator.

I used my last doomsday scoop today (haven’t gone through a pre that fast in 10 years and I didn’t take more than1 scoop at a time ever I just loved it). I believe I’m the first and only on here to order a second tub so if it blows that will be a dead giveaway. I will also update on 11/25 excelsior. Should be here tomorrow it says
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Only lad I can vouch for that isn't a doomsday shill for sure because he sold me 06/24 excelsior tubs. Was pleasant to deal with and gave me more than enough updates regarding the shipment statuses, even gave me further discounts.
 
zufir said:
Only lad I can vouch for that isn't a doomsday shill for sure because he sold me 06/24 excelsior tubs. Was pleasant to deal with and gave me more than enough updates regarding the shipment statuses, even gave me further discounts.
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Thank you for the kind words sir. Glad you were able to enjoy them and it was great to do business with you.

And you are correct. I work 24/7 trauma call at a hospital on top of their normal schedule. No time to shill for damn $50 supps haha
 
Carolina Kid said:
I’m still waiting for info on these OG CRAZE samples, come on fam!

Don’t hold out on me, somebody shoot me a PM!!!
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I bought a pre workout on eBay a couple of years ago , to sweeten the deal the lad included a sample of OG Craze
I thought about taking it but in the end no..
It sat in my drawer for a year before I gave it to a mate with some other samples laying around
The last time I took OG craze I could barely sleep for about 3 days . It was the most wicked strong tub . Never forget it , destroyed my training as I was exhausted . Perfect for someone that really needs to stay awake mind

Did they ever find out what was in it . Was it a designer amphetamine
 
Bernardhopkin said:
I bought a pre workout on eBay a couple of years ago , to sweeten the deal the lad included a sample of OG Craze
I thought about taking it but in the end no..
It sat in my drawer for a year before I gave it to a mate with some other samples laying around
The last time I took OG craze I could barely sleep for about 3 days . It was the most wicked strong tub . Never forget it , destroyed my training as I was exhausted . Perfect for someone that really needs to stay awake mind

Did they ever find out what was in it . Was it a designer amphetamine
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N,α-Diethylphenethylamine
 
My 11/25 and doomsday run arrived. Going to give a 1/2 scoop of the 11/25 tomorrow. My tub is all black. I know somebody on here bad one with a tinge of red I believe
 
Took a 1/2 scoop of 11/25 30 min ago. One thing is for sure, whoever is making 11/25 excelsior and doomsday is the same manufacturer. I think we assumed this already but it’s absolutely identical in powder, consistency, flavoring everything. I put them side by side and could tell zero difference between them.

as for effects, a bit early to tell but it seems like a light uplifting energy. Very mild so far but I can tell I took something.

50min update: seems to be kicking in harder. Very focused and clean energy. Not overbearing or anything. It feels similar to doomsday when it fully kicks in but on less powder and slightly faster. Maybe a bit for stimmed

My first thought is that if they are manufactured by the same people, they probably had whatever stim that’s in doomsday on hand and upped the dose of it in the new excelsior formulation after doomsday was disappointing for most. That opinion could change just initial thoughts on the initial 50 min
 
Used doomsday again today 1.1/4 scoop. Shook the tub as always . Honestly for me its very poor. I’ve taken it 6 times 1 to 1.5 scoop . I’ve only once felt good on it, and even then Im not seeing any performance gains which is easily measurable.
Can’t see it lasting for them . Reckon it will be discontinued, discounted or reformulated. Shame really

I doubt my adrenals are fckd and I’m sensitive enough to caffeine as I normally get a good boost from strong coffee. Just I feel for me it’s expensive and ineffective.
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Took a 1/2 scoop of 11/25 30 min ago. One thing is for sure, whoever is making 11/25 excelsior and doomsday is the same manufacturer. I think we assumed this already but it’s absolutely identical in powder, consistency, flavoring everything. I put them side by side and could tell zero difference between them.

as for effects, a bit early to tell but it seems like a light uplifting energy. Very mild so far but I can tell I took something.

50min update: seems to be kicking in harder. Very focused and clean energy. Not overbearing or anything. It feels similar to doomsday when it fully kicks in but on less powder and slightly faster. Maybe a bit for stimmed

My first thought is that if they are manufactured by the same people, they probably had whatever stim that’s in doomsday on hand and upped the dose of it in the new excelsior formulation after doomsday was disappointing for most. That opinion could change just initial thoughts on the initial 50 min
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You’re saying the new white excelsior powder looks identical to doomsday?
 
cfisher52986 said:
You’re saying the new white excelsior powder looks identical to doomsday?
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identical. Even the same moisture absorbing packs. Same color, flavor, everything. So after about 55min of half scoop inhad energy and focus but nothing crazy. Felt honestly like 1/2 scoop of doomsday. Thought it was going to be stronger but tapered off right after my last post. Took another 1/4 with a minor boost. 2 hours later took another 1/2 scoop and just have focused clean energy. Nothing speedy

The experience others have had with 11/25 aren’t what I’m noticing. I really think mine might be doomsday. Which is fine because I like it but when I take doomsday multiple days in a row
On the 4th or 5th straight day it works but not as noticable. After a two day break it works great again. This would be day 6. So it’s great but I really think it’s just doomsday in another bottle. I can take pics when I get home but literally every single thing is the same. Tubs, powder, moisture packs, consistency, smell, taste, color, effects. So not a big deal for me because I really enjoy doomsday but this is weird
 
CATdiesel76 said:
identical. Even the same moisture absorbing packs. Same color, flavor, everything. So after about 55min of half scoop inhad energy and focus but nothing crazy. Felt honestly like 1/2 scoop of doomsday. Thought it was going to be stronger but tapered off right after my last post. Took another 1/4 with a minor boost. 2 hours later took another 1/2 scoop and just have focused clean energy. Nothing speedy

The experience others have had with 11/25 aren’t what I’m noticing. I really think mine might be doomsday. Which is fine because I like it but when I take doomsday multiple days in a row
On the 4th or 5th straight day it works but not as noticable. After a two day break it works great again. This would be day 6. So it’s great but I really think it’s just doomsday in another bottle. I can take pics when I get home but literally every single thing is the same. Tubs, powder, moisture packs, consistency, smell, taste, color, effects. So not a big deal for me because I really enjoy doomsday but this is weird
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We need pics!

is the flavor rocket pop or fruit punch ?
 
Carolina Kid said:
I’m on my 3rd Doomsday tub (shared half of #2 with another person) and all 3 of mine have been good for me as well so far 🤷🏼‍♂️

That being said, that 11/25 excelsior…..legit good.
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11/25 is clean feeling but weaker and lacks that magic forward energy and creativity I feel after taking O.G and I have bern using O.G recently so it is fresh in memory. But 11/25 is indeed clean feeling but unless I had too much money to spend on supps I would not keep on buying this. Clean but as I expected there was something in O.G that is not in tje new. And yeah I even refilled and took more of this tjan I have never with Excelsior but no mania and for me it actually felt relaxing.
Relaxing focus and mood boost with less sides and less energy.
Smash Amf is in my opinion stronger per scoop but yohimbe chills for me although at half scoop I hve used it a few times as nootropic kind of,

Last Excelsior was okay and if it was half tv”he price I would buy a few more.

I would not recommend anybody to pay eNay prices for any newer Excelsior butif you had some serious extra cash but anyhow hard to find O.G now.
Gonna give up on the Smash and try to cut stims for some dys snd this 11/25 might hit a little bit better.
 
Bernardhopkin said:
Used doomsday again today 1.1/4 scoop. Shook the tub as always . Honestly for me its very poor. I’ve taken it 6 times 1 to 1.5 scoop . I’ve only once felt good on it, and even then Im not seeing any performance gains which is easily measurable.
Can’t see it lasting for them . Reckon it will be discontinued, discounted or reformulated. Shame really

I doubt my adrenals are fckd and I’m sensitive enough to caffeine as I normally get a good boost from strong coffee. Just I feel for me it’s expensive and ineffective.
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Cryptocommander said:
1 review on predator saying is too strong lol. Dang I don’t know if I should continue with my other bottles of smash amf. I rather use excelsior if indeed is back. Nothing but good reviews soo far.
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11/25 to me is weaker than Smash AMF for sure but a bit cleaner, its not so bad its just that O still have some O.G Excelsior that is in another league not just twice as strong but other unique wualities that really colors nd inspired my mind besides physical endurance and energy immortal even with less than a scoop
 
CATdiesel76 said:
identical. Even the same moisture absorbing packs. Same color, flavor, everything. So after about 55min of half scoop inhad energy and focus but nothing crazy. Felt honestly like 1/2 scoop of doomsday. Thought it was going to be stronger but tapered off right after my last post. Took another 1/4 with a minor boost. 2 hours later took another 1/2 scoop and just have focused clean energy. Nothing speedy

The experience others have had with 11/25 aren’t what I’m noticing. I really think mine might be doomsday. Which is fine because I like it but when I take doomsday multiple days in a row
On the 4th or 5th straight day it works but not as noticable. After a two day break it works great again. This would be day 6. So it’s great but I really think it’s just doomsday in another bottle. I can take pics when I get home but literally every single thing is the same. Tubs, powder, moisture packs, consistency, smell, taste, color, effects. So not a big deal for me because I really enjoy doomsday but this is weird
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I got one of the new tubs in, my doomsday def has more color to it. But yea its 100% same manufacturer. Predator has either been the owner of excelsior this entire time OR they bought them out.
 
I have pics. They are too large to post. Can anyone help a non tech savvy person post them? No matter how much I resize them on my phone they say too big

But I will say I still love it. Every time I think it dies down I realize I just have this nice clean focused energy. To me it’s worth the price. Everyone seems to respond to the new excelsior with clean energy unlike doomsday where they got none. Seeing as how they are exactly the same to me I wonder if some people just got bad tubs of doomsday. When y’all see the pics you will laugh
 
CATdiesel76 said:
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CATdiesel76 said:
my first doomsday looked like that. Thought it was just maybe different because of moisture. My new one is in the pics above and is different. Or maybe it looks similar hard to tell but you can see from my pic that my excelsior and doomsday are identical
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Maybe it got such bad reviews that they just threw the new excelsior formula in the latest batch lol
 
Drakee said:
Maybe it got such bad reviews that they just threw the new excelsior formula in the latest batch lol
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haha maybe! But both doomsdays I’ve had felt the same. But maybe some of the initial bottles were worse than others and they fined tubed it. Who in the hell knows this is all so shady that I don’t know what to believe
 
CATdiesel76 said:
haha maybe! But both doomsdays I’ve had felt the same. But maybe some of the initial bottles were worse than others and they fined tubed it. Who in the hell knows this is all so shady that I don’t know what to believe
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I'll try a full rounded scoop tomorrow. Did half with a scoop of doomsday and barely felt much
 
Drakee said:
I'll try a full rounded scoop tomorrow. Did half with a scoop of doomsday and barely felt much
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Half gives me energy for a bit then fades but I have some energy and focus if I think about it. 3/4 scoop I hate a decent energy boost but really good focus and task productivity for hours. 3/4 feels like a bit more stim and energy with the same focus. 1 scoop I get say the energy of 250-300mg caffeine but it lasts for about 4 hours and I just don’t get tired or winded with tons of focus. Slight euphoria but nothing super noticeable. But I just lock in and get stuff done.

However, very few people get this and it seems a ton of people get what I get or nothing at all with no middle ground

I think I love it so much because in my line of work I need strong focus for hours with no crash more than the crackhead feeling
 
Re: Doomsday If you guys don't mind buying opened product you should probably buy the product that the guys who don't like it are willing to sell. Predator previously said that doomsday only had one batch/one lot number produced.

@Carolina Kid @zufir I think you guys both like Excelsior. How different does it feel to doomsday cos I know Z hates doomsday and kid likes it. I can see Diesel saying it feels the same but you guys?
 
Drakee said:
I got one of the new tubs in, my doomsday def has more color to it. But yea its 100% same manufacturer. Predator has either been the owner of excelsior this entire time OR they bought them out.
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Predator is tight with inperial as well as Driven Sports same people or same imperior ruling the business
 
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Yeah if people on here want to sell their doomsday tubs I will buy them. And if you click on my pics comparing the tubs I think you will see they are the same. Dig them though. 1/2 scoop excelsior this morning because I was dragging ass from having a little too much fun last night. Feel great. Clean long lasting energy
 
Maximiliaan said:
Re: Doomsday If you guys don't mind buying opened product you should probably buy the product that the guys who don't like it are willing to sell. Predator previously said that doomsday only had one batch/one lot number produced.

@Carolina Kid @zufir I think you guys both like Excelsior. How different does it feel to doomsday cos I know Z hates doomsday and kid likes it. I can see Diesel saying it feels the same but you guys?
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I’m one of the few that like Doomsday because it works for me as a daily driver.

Excelsior has much more appetite suppression, more energy and more euphoria (though euphoria is subjective because I use it in a stack with one cap of Dark Labs Euphoria). You can almost make them equal IMO if you use doomsday in a stack with one cap of nutropix Halycon, which is great for me as well.

Also, Excelsior hits faster (15-20 min) vs. Doomsday (probably 30-40 min), so take that into account if you lift early like I do and take between 5am-6am……just my two cents.
 
Carolina Kid said:
Hold the phone….. are we getting a @muscleman approved endorsement on this 11/25 batch of excelsior?! 😂😂
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It feels nice just used it twice yet. It doesnt put me in mania but possibly if I cut other crappy stims this will havecme feel pretty good and active.
it might help me accept that I most likely will never see an over the top tub again but help me be content with just being a pretty useful petson sometimes but not give me those ego mania thoughts thonking ai am gonna be a ripped bodybuilder and multitasking research writer doing advanced yoga at the same time.

It might help me become humble and try to come to terms with accepting that I am even just average or below at some tasks no matter how much I would love to feel the power cosmic at all times and fly between galaxies in extasy as I like and even make love on an immortal divine plane feeling extasy beyond normal human perception 😂👍🌈🕺💪🔥
 
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