Excelsior pre workout

[zufir]

I also ordered an 11/25 Excelsior tub that was just delivered yesterday. I'm planning on trying a scoop this Friday night prior to doing my running, so I'll be able to report back on my experience by Friday night or Saturday morning.

BTW, has anyone ever tried any of the Pandamic preworkouts? I also ordered this one as well but haven't had a chance to try it yet. The inclusion of Dendrobium pulled me in:

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Where did you get the 11/25 tub from ?

I haven't tried pandemic but I added a tub of Wildfire along with my smash AMF tub to my order

 

[Asterixs1980]

I like it. I was very motivated and focused in the gym after half a scoop. I hit a new PR on dumbbell incline press (85lbs). Only weirdness was some scalp tingles and harder to pee( vasoconstriction?) a little bit of euphoria but definitely a good burst of energy. I still have a wired feeling 6 hours later. After only two uses, I want to try it more before giving a conclusive opinion, but for now I’ll say I’m satisfied with it, especially for the price.

Could you please tell me the batch number? I'm asking because I too bought the same flavor but from another site (stayfocused). They shipped it today from Germany so I guess it will take a few days for it to arrive. Once it arrives it would be interesting to compare the number of batches

 

[SpicedCider]

Where did you get the 11/25 tub from ?

I haven't tried pandemic but I added a tub of Wildfire along with my smash AMF tub to my order

I got the 11/25 Excelsior tub from Predator the same day they restocked it. I've heard good things about Wildfire but haven't bought it yet. I'm a bit on the fence after buying Crack Primal and not noticing much from it in the way of mood enhancement/euphoria (still a decent energy boost, but much milder than I was expecting).

 

[Asterixs1980]

Where did you get the 11/25 tub from ?

I haven't tried pandemic but I added a tub of Wildfire along with my smash AMF tub to my order

If it helps, predator sends 11/25 right now (or at least it did until 10 days ago....that is the time it took to arrive in Italy).
Curiosity. The dust is much whiter than previous batch...even whiter than doomsday's

 

[Ape McGrapes]

Give it up already.

 

[cfisher52986]

Could you please tell me the batch number? I'm asking because I too bought the same flavor but from another site (stayfocused). They shipped it today from Germany so I guess it will take a few days for it to arrive. Once it arrives it would be interesting to compare the number of batches

the batch is 20231204039

 

[muscleman]

I also ordered an 11/25 Excelsior tub that was just delivered yesterday. I'm planning on trying a scoop this Friday night prior to doing my running, so I'll be able to report back on my experience by Friday night or Saturday morning.

BTW, has anyone ever tried any of the Pandamic preworkouts? I also ordered this one as well but haven't had a chance to try it yet. The inclusion of Dendrobium pulled me in:

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How can you wait several days without trying a new tub EX!? I would surely at least sample just a half fir some minor tasks the very first day I got it lol

 

[muscleman]

I got the 11/25 Excelsior tub from Predator the same day they restocked it. I've heard good things about Wildfire but haven't bought it yet. I'm a bit on the fence after buying Crack Primal and not noticing much from it in the way of mood enhancement/euphoria (still a decent energy boost, but much milder than I was expecting).

I am aftaid long term use of Excelsior will make others feel weaker

 

[cfisher52986]

How can you wait several days without trying a new tub EX!? I would surely at least sample just a half fir some minor tasks the very first day I got it lol

I am the same way , doesn’t matter what time it gets delivered

 

[muscleman]

I am the same way , doesn’t matter what time it gets delivered

Well with O.G Excelsior or even Smash I wouldn't risk it too late in the day but even if mid afternoon I guess I would have a small dose in hope the batch might

I am the same way , doesn’t matter what time it gets delivered

Best though is if it arrive midnite Saturdaynight n just crack it open scopp and head to the disco.

I dunno if we should judge efficiency by the number of dancesteps we manage to take or by how many times we get attacked by members of our favourite sex, sex craving after having seen something ….

Up Above and Beyond excellence? ❤

 

[SpicedCider]

How can you wait several days without trying a new tub EX!? I would surely at least sample just a half fir some minor tasks the very first day I got it lol

I'm usually too exhausted during the week from working to be able to accurately gauge the effects of a PWO (not even OG Excelsior felt really noticeable during a state of sleep deprivation). I'll be able to get more of an energy boost if I take it on Friday night after taking a 3-4 hour nap and allowing myself to get recharged.

 

[lamarclark09]

Excelsior-pre workout is good as it provides a powerful stimulant effect, massive motivation in the gym.
It’s a great pre workout stimulant.

 

[muscleman]

Tried one scopp of Smash AMF today.
Quickly felt focus and time felt as passing sliowly as I started reading immediately after drinking it.
Went hiking had focus but feel slightly sick in my stomach after drinking and slight sickness 5 hours later but not as bad as with Phena Plex but enough for me not buy anymore. IN the correct, better small dose IMO I think it can be productive even now and then, but increase the dosage I think some bad sides can pop up like long lasting and heart so just be careful not taking too much before assessing tolerance people.

Mild runny nose and slightly cold fingertips and fingers.
My heart felt extra strained whine hiking running out of breath quicker than normally.
This might be spiked with ritalin analogue but for me even though it gives focus it is not worth it for me feeling toxic sides and heartbeat feels slightly unconfortable 6 hrs later.
12 hours later stilght slightly residual stimulatedbut feeling sleepy. Buyt it was long lasting, a bit taxing on my heart dry mouth appetite killar and some stomach sickness from drinking at the worst flavor I have had since Phenta Plex and I felt better on it, but mild runny nose cold fingertips and heart did not feel well thinking up some pretty steep road. On O.G Excelsior I just wouldn't feel the tiredness for so many hours lol

And on this I almost feel like myself not much intoxication thankfully, Excelsior has this quality more than pother pies that even if I don't take a really dose and get obviously intoxicated it is something in there that really kicks motivation and for an mildly manic person instead of my regular tendency of laziness

 

[M21]

Has to be something off label. Yes to mood boost and euphoria, but remember, I stack with one cap of either dark labs euphoria or one cap of halcyon which could be providing that.

I stuck with that stack for sake of comparison to Doomsday, which I like. Admittedly, Doomsday works best for me at 0.75-1 scoop and then 0.5-0.75 scoops 4-5 hours later (somebody else suggested this for working surgery long hours, so I tried it). So that really puts doomsday at 1.5-1.75 scoops as a daily driver to get the best out of it. Which, given the price is not cost effective.

This Smash AMF, not sure could be a daily pre, and certainly not at that scoop level. In fact, I took an excelsior 6g scooper and did a rounded scoop of that to get to the 0.5-0.75 level.

Now, for that price, the SMASH AMF could get 40-50 days, and we’re talking something insane.

My advice to people in the club like @zufir is DO NOT 2 SCOOP THIS ONE.

If you do, you won’t be dancing in the forest like @muscleman for 2 days straight, because you will have cut down the damn forest if you’re still alive, and then moved on to digging the trench…..

Here’s a follow up Doomsday report. Ive been using Hydrazine since my last post about taking .75 which didn’t do much of anything. I’ve taken it 3 times, 1 flat scoop, .75 and heaping scoop today.

I liked it the best today using a heaping scoop. It reminded me of the OG Jack 3D feeling regarding focus/mood initial feeling. The big difference was that it only seems to have about half the energy for around 20 mins then quickly tapers to about 20% shortly after. Focus/mood lasts several hours. Even with the energy drop, I had a good workout today covering mid-section, lower body than cardio.

I think this may become my go to on cardio days because it doesn’t raise heart rate much if at all. I think adding an additional serving at the 20-30 min. mark along the lines of what Carolina Kid said could really improve its effectiveness during a lifting session.

All that being said, would I buy it again at the current price, no. Will I rotate this tub and use all of it, absolutely.

Now moving on to test my 11/25 Excelsior and Smash AMF. Both of these sound like people either love them or hate them. Starting with low doses on each.

 

[cfisher52986]

Excelsior-pre workout is good as it provides a powerful stimulant effect, massive motivation in the gym.
It’s a great pre workout stimulant.

Amen brother

 

[muscleman]

If it helps, predator sends 11/25 right now (or at least it did until 10 days ago....that is the time it took to arrive in Italy).
Curiosity. The dust is much whiter than previous batch...even whiter than doomsday's

How was experience?

 

[Asterixs1980]

How was experience?

I'm waiting to use it on Saturday morning. I trained twice at 8pm this week and didn't want to risk disturbing my sleep. I think I start with 1 scoop. The previous version 10/25 gave me some energy and for about 30 minutes a bit of euphoria, but as a side effect after about two hours it made me feel depressed and sleep badly. I hope this version is better or at least doesn't bring these annoying side effects.

 

[cfisher52986]

I'm waiting to use it on Saturday morning. I trained twice at 8pm this week and didn't want to risk disturbing my sleep. I think I start with 1 scoop. The previous version 10/25 gave me some energy and for about 30 minutes a bit of euphoria, but as a side effect after about two hours it made me feel depressed and sleep badly. I hope this version is better or at least doesn't bring these annoying side effects.

U probably shouldn’t take excelsior two hours before bed

 

[Bernardhopkin]

Doomsday - the pre workout that’s as good as a double expresso at up to 1.5 scoops for me anyway .
very disappointed after what I paid Predator Nutrition…

Anyone compare it to rize or CRZ oG?

 

[Carolina Kid]

Here’s a follow up Doomsday report. Ive been using Hydrazine since my last post about taking .75 which didn’t do much of anything. I’ve taken it 3 times, 1 flat scoop, .75 and heaping scoop today.

I liked it the best today using a heaping scoop. It reminded me of the OG Jack 3D feeling regarding focus/mood initial feeling. The big difference was that it only seems to have about half the energy for around 20 mins then quickly tapers to about 20% shortly after. Focus/mood lasts several hours. Even with the energy drop, I had a good workout today covering mid-section, lower body than cardio.

I think this may become my go to on cardio days because it doesn’t raise heart rate much if at all. I think adding an additional serving at the 20-30 min. mark along the lines of what Carolina Kid said could really improve its effectiveness during a lifting session.

All that being said, would I buy it again at the current price, no. Will I rotate this tub and use all of it, absolutely.

Now moving on to test my 11/25 Excelsior and Smash AMF. Both of these sound like people either love them or hate them. Starting with low doses on each.

My final word is Doomsday works great but under specific scenarios.

Either 1.25 scoops (heaping scoop?), or stack with one cap of nutropix Halycon (or dark labs euphoria, but Halycon much better IMO) with 0.75 Scoops of doomsday. You could do one cap of Halycon and 1.25 but I think it’s too much.

And don’t let the “yeah but you have to stack it with something” deter you. All the OG’s here are old enough to remember and damn well know half the OG Craze crew said the same thing…

”oh, you have to stack OG CRAZE with hemavol to get the most out of it….”…….. and we did

 

[muscleman]

My final word is Doomsday works great but under specific scenarios.

Either 1.25 scoops (heaping scoop?), or stack with one cap of nutropix Halycon (or dark labs euphoria, but Halycon much better IMO) with 0.75 Scoops of doomsday. You could do one cap of Halycon and 1.25 but I think it’s too much.

And don’t let the “yeah but you have to stack it with something” deter you. All the OG’s here are old enough to remember and damn well know half the OG Craze crew said the same thing…

”oh, you have to stack OG CRAZE with hemavol to get the most out of it….”…….. and we did

You probably know it but Nutropix Halcyon has tianeptine sodium a substance that also is a full opioid receptor was it U? In am not that expert lol. But pretty addictive but in a Pre workout you will probably not get so much and who has the stomach to take multiple scoops of Pre workout a day Lol

 

[M21]

My final word is Doomsday works great but under specific scenarios.

Either 1.25 scoops (heaping scoop?), or stack with one cap of nutropix Halycon (or dark labs euphoria, but Halycon much better IMO) with 0.75 Scoops of doomsday. You could do one cap of Halycon and 1.25 but I think it’s too much.

And don’t let the “yeah but you have to stack it with something” deter you. All the OG’s here are old enough to remember and damn well know half the OG Craze crew said the same thing…

”oh, you have to stack OG CRAZE with hemavol to get the most out of it….”…….. and we did

It still sounds like we’re the exception with Doomsday. I added a DL Euphoria cap towards the end of cardio today. It kicked everything up again in a positive way for about two more hours. I plan on taking 1.25 scoops initially and another .5 30 mins after next time.

Eager to hear more 11/25 Exelsior reports and will report back with mine.

 

[cfisher52986]

I just saw a picture on Reddit of the new 11/25 from Predator it is a pure white powder looks like sugar. No red in it, so it’s definitely something different goin on

 

[Drakee]

I just saw a picture on Reddit of the new 11/25 from Predator it is a pure white powder looks like sugar. No red in it, so it’s definitely something different goin on

They prob changed it so it wouldnt look like doomsday.

 

[Drakee]

Doomsday sales must be low because they sent me an extra tub with my order. lol

 

[Carolina Kid]

You probably know it but Nutropix Halcyon has tianeptine sodium a substance that also is a full opioid receptor was it U? In am not that expert lol. But pretty addictive but in a Pre workout you will probably not get so much and who has the stomach to take multiple scoops of Pre workout a day Lol

one cap of nutropix halcyon or one cap of DL Euphoria + 0.75-1 scoop of doomsday Is enough in my case.

I am in your boat with Smash AMF, 2nd experience was not good but I am sensitive to Alpha Yo.

I have an 11/25 Excelsior coming on Monday and will report back. Interesting that ruesco samples of 11/25 excelsior look normal
But some are reporting 11/25 batches with white powdery sugar.

my 10/25 Excelsior was red and grainy like a 10/22 or even 09/21 batch and felt similar, so they appear to be all Over the place.

not sure why ruesco not back in stock on excelsior…..

 

[M21]

Well great. Just saw a post on Reddit with a picture of Excelsior from Predator ordered within a week or two and it’s all white. I hadn’t even opened the tub I ordered less than two weeks ago. I promptly opened mine, and it’s all white as well. I’ve never seen that before. Obviously it’s different. The lot is #IN093221 EXP 11-25. I know others have this lot, but I hadn’t heard about all white powder and saw picts. until seeing that other person’s Reddit post tonight. I’m attaching pictures of mine.

 

[M21]

Well great. Just saw a post on Reddit with a picture of Excelsior from Predator ordered within a week or two and it’s all white. I hadn’t even opened the tub I ordered less than two weeks ago. I promptly opened mine, and it’s all white as well. I’ve never seen that before. Obviously it’s different. The lot is #IN093221 EXP 11-25. I know others have this lot, but I hadn’t heard about all white powder and saw picts. until seeing that other person’s Reddit post tonight. I’m attaching pictures of mine.

Just saw the other posts on here mentioning the same thing.

 

[muscleman]

Well great. Just saw a post on Reddit with a picture of Excelsior from Predator ordered within a week or two and it’s all white. I hadn’t even opened the tub I ordered less than two weeks ago. I promptly opened mine, and it’s all white as well. I’ve never seen that before. Obviously it’s different. The lot is #IN093221 EXP 11-25. I know others have this lot, but I hadn’t heard about all white powder and saw picts. until seeing that other person’s Reddit post tonight. I’m attaching pictures of mine.

How did the white powder hit you?

 

[cfisher52986]

Predator is maybe counterfeiting their own form of Excelsior. Usually a batch or lot of a product is exactly that, a single batch manufactured at one time. When the powder is obviously looking different therefore either has different ingredients or was manufactured differently, that should be a new lot #. So, a little fishy of course. Not surprising from predator though.
Then again this could be a new limited batch, Predators attempt at winning back all the customers that are pissed about Doomsday
The color and texture of excelsior has varied with past lots as well so it doesn’t mean it isn’t good. Will somebody hurry up and try it! What’s the hold up!
I just mixed myself a full scoop of 4/2024 and feel like I could type a novel of Muscleman proportions

 

[cfisher52986]

A seller on eBay just jacked up their 4/2024 to 999$
Wtf. Crazy because another seller has same tub for 300

 

[Carolina Kid]

Predator is maybe counterfeiting their own form of Excelsior. Usually a batch or lot of a product is exactly that, a single batch manufactured at one time. When the powder is obviously looking different therefore either has different ingredients or was manufactured differently, that should be a new lot #. So, a little fishy of course. Not surprising from predator though.
Then again this could be a new limited batch, Predators attempt at winning back all the customers that are pissed about Doomsday
The color and texture of excelsior has varied with past lots as well so it doesn’t mean it isn’t good. Will somebody hurry up and try it! What’s the hold up!
I just mixed myself a full scoop of 4/2024 and feel like I could type a novel of Muscleman proportions

If I remember correctly, some of the 4/24, 5/24 and 6/24 tubs looked like this as well, didn’t they?

will see what I get on Monday, will be interested to see others reports as well….

 

[cfisher52986]

If I remember correctly, some of the 4/24, 5/24 and 6/24 tubs looked like this as well, didn’t they?

will see what I get on Monday, will be interested to see others reports as well….

Yes I’ve seen it brought up on this thread , there was a really good batch that was all white and looked like flour I think it was 6/24.
I wasn’t around for that but I’ve done lots of research

 

[Carolina Kid]

Mine is arriving earlier than expected (today) from Predator, so will half scoop the 11/25 batch excelsior if it gets here in the next 2 hrs, and report back….

I will say, in all fairness to @muscleman , I did half a scoop of 10/25 excelsior yesterday after a 3 week break and it was awesome for the workout.

While I really like Doomsday (in my case, understanding and respecting others think it’s hot trash and that’s ok) as a daily driver, it does make the excelsior more enjoyable after a break.

I also rotated a half scoop of OG batch Phenta Plex this week and think phenta plex and Smash AMF have the same ingredient (less the alpha Yo) for phenta plex. Did not enjoy either for working out compared to doomsday and excelsior, also because the taste of both is on the level of a dumpster fire that leaves a horrible aftertaste.

The first time I took a half scoop of smash AMF and reported back amazing results was on a full day of eating, so maybe that had something to do with it…..not sure smash AMF should be taken on an empty stomach.

there are posters who have said if you combine it with 200mg of L-theanine, it’s on the level of OG Craze and OG excelsior and gets rid of the alpha yo shakes and effects, so just an fyi…..

 

[muscleman]

Predator is maybe counterfeiting their own form of Excelsior. Usually a batch or lot of a product is exactly that, a single batch manufactured at one time. When the powder is obviously looking different therefore either has different ingredients or was manufactured differently, that should be a new lot #. So, a little fishy of course. Not surprising from predator though.
Then again this could be a new limited batch, Predators attempt at winning back all the customers that are pissed about Doomsday
The color and texture of excelsior has varied with past lots as well so it doesn’t mean it isn’t good. Will somebody hurry up and try it! What’s the hold up!
I just mixed myself a full scoop of 4/2024 and feel like I could type a novel of Muscleman proportions

At least the tub is black First time I tried red 5/24 I also felt some typing inspiration but then using it the next day tolerance increased immediately as opposed to O.G tubs that many reported wou

Mine is arriving earlier than expected (today) from Predator, so will half scoop the 11/25 batch excelsior if it gets here in the next 2 hrs, and report back….

I will say, in all fairness to @muscleman , I did half a scoop of 10/25 excelsior yesterday after a 3 week break and it was awesome for the workout.

While I really like Doomsday (in my case, understanding and respecting others think it’s hot trash and that’s ok) as a daily driver, it does make the excelsior more enjoyable after a break.

I also rotated a half scoop of OG batch Phenta Plex this week and think phenta plex and Smash AMF have the same ingredient (less the alpha Yo) for phenta plex. Did not enjoy either for working out compared to doomsday and excelsior, also because the taste of both is on the level of a dumpster fire that leaves a horrible aftertaste.

The first time I took a half scoop of smash AMF and reported back amazing results was on a full day of eating, so maybe that had something to do with it…..not sure smash AMF should be taken on an empty stomach.

there are posters who have said if you combine it with 200mg of L-theanine, it’s on the level of OG Craze and OG excelsior and gets rid of the alpha yo shakes and effects, so just an fyi…..

Smash has yohimbe listed and for me the yo sides are quite mild although not likeable.
While hiking the focus wasnt really needed but Smash might very well contain 4f-mph that some youtuber stated.
I did have pure 4f- mph a couple of years and Icrrmember it being good for focus and mental tasks.
yesterday the sleeplessness was as severe almost worse after Smash than EX and I ended up too late but more of. Slightly zombified mood on the tailend as opposed to still inspired highness and musclemania tjat would be with me 12 hours after taking it.
Slept only like 3 hrs but had the stimdrive to wake up early and train and actually weighed out 19 grams today as opposed to 2 halfscoops yesterday.
Too much focus initially got stuck in some research online lol.
Had a brief dancersize warmup and short workout.
Was energized…
But same as with Phenta but not as bad but a mild kind of sickness from the toxic taste stayed with me.

i also felt additional strain on my heart as compared to YO and it might very well be the flourinated methylphenidate that also is much longer lasting than pharma phenidate ritalin concerta etc.
The shakiness in fingers was also felt.
6 hours later a big family pool mission came up and I decided to use some emergency O.G Excelsior and as usual it cleared me up.
I dunno maybe 39 minutes or so after Excelsior I actually puked but not from Excelsior but I was feeling slightly sick since drinking it on empty stomach.
I was worried I wasted Excelsior in my puke but it feels the essential ingredient could enter my bloodstream.
Smash the most longlasting PWO after EX but that side of toxic feeling sickness to the gut…
As usual another supp fall way short of the goid EX and Craze …. I dunno it might actually be a good point but I felt more sober on this than Excelsior…

 

[muscleman]

Yes I’ve seen it brought up on this thread , there was a really good batch that was all white and looked like flour I think it was 6/24.
I wasn’t around for that but I’ve done lots of research

Freaks we are knowing the history of this thread probably better than most things we ever read in school……

A bit too many new accounts and what happened with Doomsday thread? i just posted a few slightly over the top posrs lol

 

[cfisher52986]

Freaks we are knowing the history of this thread probably better than most things we ever read in school……

A bit too many new accounts and what happened with Doomsday thread? i just posted a few slightly over the top posrs lol

I did tons of research before paying a regretful amount for an old tub on eBay. Actually in the comments of excelsior YouTube videos there is a wealth of knowledge
As a rule were black tubs always better ? I have the red 4/24. Feels like it kicks in hard but a restless irritable feeling comes in with it pretty quick

 

[M21]

Freaks we are knowing the history of this thread probably better than most things we ever read in school……

A bit too many new accounts and what happened with Doomsday thread? i just posted a few slightly over the top posrs lol

Haha… it shows me as a new member, but I’ve had an account since 2017. I’ve done plenty of reading over the years but not much posting.

 

[muscleman]

Haha… it shows me as a new member, but I’ve had an account since 2017. I’ve done plenty of reading over the years but not much posting.

I think I remember your username from some Excelsior YouTube comments? I think you said you always took exactly 6 grams and added some vitamin c to make it like Craze or was that somebody else? Lol

Generally though official Pharma information is that acidic condition in the body from drinks and sour drinks could make amphetamine degrade faster and an alkaline environment should according to the same theory make those stims stronger but that is attached to Pharma dex amphet am ine as in de xedrine Vy va nse and a bit of it in adder all.
Personally I haven't really bothered to try out the formula but a bit sodium bicarbonate or baking soda is alkali enough... never mind let's not act like mad PWO home sink formula addicts Lol.
Truth is unfortunately that I am not acting like one, I am one.

Today once again despair is held at bay and I know that although hours have passed I have the O.G running in my blood, its a great thing the active ingredient gets absorbed so fast it seems like it didn't matter that I puked a bit over 30 minutes after drinking Excelsior today. But awfully tasting Smash is responsible for that! I dunno maybe try Smash after breakfast next time.
For absorption always best best to drink PWO on empty stomach but with the worse tasting ones my old stomach can barely stomach it no more....

Before the glory runs thinner in my veins, remember that the treasure below the rainbow is within your own ability tro experience! Supps sometimes lift a bit of the veil but then they fry your nervous system makes you puke and write strange posts in muscle forum, yes now I feel split, I am part muscleman but the Smash Hulk lurks just beneath the bridal veil of pretended calmness.... Lololol now I better get off and get to dinner although puke tasting Smash surely has smashed my appetite maybe even a bit worse than O.G used to do in the beginning

 

[muscleman]

Haha… it shows me as a new member, but I’ve had an account since 2017. I’ve done plenty of reading over the years but not much posting.

I am glad you haven't confused as many people as I have with extended posting while under the Excelsior influence Lol

 

[muscleman]

I did tons of research before paying a regretful amount for an old tub on eBay. Actually in the comments of excelsior YouTube videos there is a wealth of knowledge
As a rule were black tubs always better ? I have the red 4/24. Feels like it kicks in hard but a restless irritable feeling comes in with it pretty quick

I am sorry what you got didnt live up to the hype.
With fresh receptors my new tubs red 05/24 and 10/25 were similar in a single try it first felt very good but with new tubs tolerance builds so quick that even the very next day I couldnt even get close to O.G feeling as opposed to O.G tubs that worked really well cosecutive days as long as I stayed below one scoop a day.
And then after a couple of tries new tubs were ”psychoactive” but in a off hamd way not same top grade stim in there but something similar….
Here I go for the 47th time!
Real Up above and beyond might be available in a tub anymore but good luck all who has one on the way, a few reddit comments say 11/25 are really strong some said it was ineffective

 

[Carolina Kid]

I think I remember your username from some Excelsior YouTube comments? I think you said you always took exactly 6 grams and added some vitamin c to make it like Craze or was that somebody else? Lol

That was me

I always add 250mg of vitamin C and 2.5tsp of ON creatine mono to 8oz of water with my weighed scoop of excelsior for those OG Craze feels….

 

[muscleman]

That was me

I always add 250mg of vitamin C and 2.5tsp of ON creatine mono to 8oz of water with my weighed scoop of excelsior for those OG Craze feels….

I havent noticed myself but in theory creatine could be kind of like nootropic like how it pisitively affects ATP cycle whatever that means? Lol some kond of biologicl process.
I have read a study that creatine was effective in treating depression for those with low levels.
Writing it about I am gonna go mix up aome food ol creatine and see if I get some Craze feels lol

 

[muscleman]

I do not recommend anybody take Smash and Excelsior in the same day,
I did that do that you won’t have to.
10g Smash on empty stomach, quite immediately like I read it was as time was passing slower or was my mind in hyperdrive?
I overfocused in some morning preparations and my right off the bat hit the weights first thing in the morning still managed to be late.

Slight sickness from the first sip of Smash,
It reminds me about phenta Plex but not quite as bad.
I did train felt so extremely energized for a little while, then I felt cold in fingertips heart kind of feeling strained in a worse way than caffeine.

I did get over the sickness and stupidly enough I had som O. G Excelsior about 6 hrs later to get energized because I had barely slept because of Smash the previous day n then having it again early next morning….. duh…. Lol

A bit more than 30 minutes after drinking the Excelsior I actually Hulk up my expensive designer stimulants all flavoured and some even colored so pretty in deep crimson red lol only to be worried about if the O.G had entered my bloodstream instead of acting like a sane adult ; look at your gitness/Hulk goals

To be a Hulk?
Or to Hulk?

I wondet if my rehabnurse will let me in again if I knock nicely on tbe window or if I cant reach I will just throw this empthy Excelsior tub I just drank out and Hulked in?

To Smash or to Hulk?
How long can I really pretend I am a hunk
while really in disguise a skunk?

 

[Carolina Kid]

Tried a half scoop of the 11/25 batch of excelsior at 5pm today. Almost all white like others mentioned. But mixability great, unlike the all white 4/24, 5/24 or 6/24 batches. Powder doesn’t sit on top, but mixes like OG excelsior. Color and taste the same once mixed.

I’m still wide awake almost 7hrs later.

Not jittery, but smooth energy. Reprogrammed a home theater. Taking even a half scoop at 5pm was a mistake for any hope of sleep tonight lol

Blows SMASH AMF out of the water, going to try with a 6am workout tomorrow (I’ll probably still be up from the initial Half scoop at this rate lol)

My initial verdict?

Buy.

 

[Drakee]

Tried a half scoop of the 11/25 batch of excelsior at 5pm today. Almost all white like others mentioned. But mixability great, unlike the all white 4/24, 5/24 or 6/24 batches. Powder doesn’t sit on top, but mixes like OG excelsior. Color and taste the same once mixed.

I’m still wide awake almost 7hrs later.

Not jittery, but smooth energy. Reprogrammed a home theater. Taking even a half scoop at 5pm was a mistake for any hope of sleep tonight lol

Blows SMASH AMF out of the water, going to try with a 6am workout tomorrow (I’ll probably still be up from the initial Half scoop at this rate lol)

My initial verdict?

Buy.

Doesn't feel dirty like 6/24?

 

[Carolina Kid]

Doesn't feel dirty like 6/24?

definitely not IMO

 

[cfisher52986]

I have hope we will one day see another Craze or Excelsior (OG)
And Smash AMF is a forerunner aiding the manifestation of this monumental event.
Businessmen will see what has happened here with Smash.. basically make a product that shows promise of having something illicit and watch it sell like hot cakes.
Doomsday fell under this business model as well but was a travesty. The people will not continue to be so easily duped. Next came Smash- definitely has a kick to it but still not the savior of our dull minds, the chosen one to destroy our inertia. It sold out everywhere instantly and likely will continue to do so for at least another batch or two. Now, either they will improve the formula, or people will lose interest and stop buying it, if they bother to go on Reddit or research some reviews.
what I’d see if I was a business man, and it’s not a new idea but has been struggling to fully express itself, is that you can form a brand new company name ( KJlabz for example) purchase a bulk amount of some exotic research chemical stimulant( of which there are plenty) market it with some allusions to it being illegal and drug-like, and it will sell out, and you will profit. Take some of the profit, do it again under a new brand name and logo.
I predict this will continue to happen, and it may not be this year or next, but eventually another Matt Cahill will arise. Someone following this Smash business model will very likely one day stumble upon a designer stimulant that actually does what we want, like what happened with Craze and Excelsior. New chemical analogues are born every day, and there is no reason we couldn’t see another Ndpea or 3FMA( or whatever the hell Excelsior actually was )
I think Doomsday and Smash are a sign of better things to come. Manufactures obviously know what us stim junkies want. It was promised and marketed to us perfectly with Doomsday, falsely of course, but what is important is the fact that it is KNOWN that we want another Craze, another fruit cooler that takes us Above and Beyond our tired dismal selves. It is known, and I have faith that this knowledge will once again find itself in the right hands

I know this could be worded a little better but my stimmed up mind is eager to get to other tasks

PS F*ck you Predator

 

[Carolina Kid]

Y’all.

This 11/25 excelsior I got from predator is legit. I don’t care what some people on Reddit say. If ruesco, Eva’s or uncle Eddie at MP had this in stock now, I would automatically buy 2-3 more tubs. Don’t care if it looks like flour or arm and hammer baking soda lol.

I just smoked a shoulders and legs superset session at the gym with 180 reps a piece.

Add one cap of dark labs euphoria to it, along with 2.5g (1/2 tsp) of Optimum Nutrition Creatine mono and 250mg of vitamin C and thank me later.

 

[zufir]

Y’all.

This 11/25 excelsior I got from predator is legit. I don’t care what some people on Reddit say. If ruesco, Eva’s or uncle Eddie at MP had this in stock now, I would automatically buy 2-3 more tubs. Don’t care if it looks like flour or arm and hammer baking soda lol.

I just smoked a joint shoulders and legs superset session at the gym with 180 reps a piece.

Add one cap of dark labs euphoria to it, along with 2.5g (1/2 tsp) of Optimum Nutrition Creatine mono and 250mg of vitamin C and thank me later.

I’m currently on 11/25 and I had to pass by the forum to tell you guys it’s strong as fuark… don’t let the grainy white powder fool you. It’s legit

or maybe it’s the doomsday scoop I took along with it? Sike.