Rocket3015
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I had to modify my Smith Machine a bit due to elbow pain, but with these attachments I made I can still squat
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XPG ALPHA GEL + PHOSPHATIDIC ACID XT
- Thread starter akboom87
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Dustin07
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even though squats aren't my favorite lift, as I get older I find myself embracing the challenge of retaining and building mass in the lower tree trunks!
Rocket3015
Legend
My legs are about half the size there were before I started this adventure............... BUT, "I Will Be Back ""
Dustin07
Legend
I have zero doubt of that. I wouldn't even worry about it. my legs were so thick when I was xfit'ing that it was more common to sit on my own balls lol. lately my quads and hammies have completely filled out my slacks again. they come back with work and food!
Airmaniac
Member
I don’t want to clutter this thread too much but have you watched “Arnold” on Netflix? For context, I ask based on you saying “I will be back”.
MrKleen73
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It's funny Dr Mike Isreatel did a very low tech version of this. He put duct tape around the bar to hold on to. He is able to turn the bar and everything with it. Interesting how people will simply find a way.
akboom87
Well-known member
Started the day of at 3:30 am had about 3.5 hr drive to be on site at 7 am. Dose of PA XT and ALPHA GEL this morning to get things started right!
Plan is to fast all day, depending on how things go today I might have to stay the night. So 36 possibly 48 hr fast? We will see how things go.
Plan is to fast all day, depending on how things go today I might have to stay the night. So 36 possibly 48 hr fast? We will see how things go.
Dustin07
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a 36hr fast is going to kick that next woosh down on the scale for you. If you don't have any reason to break that fast (such as a meal with the wife, or work commitments or gym) push it through as long as you can. IMO from my limited research the best benefits of fasting truly seem to start after 30hrs. (authophagy, gh etc)
akboom87
Well-known member
By far when I drove under 250 that 36 hr fast was amazing. Yep kinda sucks to be out here middle of nowhere but great time to fast lol. Also being a de load week I’m not as upset missing the gym. I still plan to make up a session on Saturday though.
Dustin07
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yeah when I had a biz trip in az that gave me the perfect chance to throw in a 60hr, I loved it.
perfect, you'll be hungry and rested and ready to rock
sns8778
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Excellent news! I just remember everyone comparing the 2 when PA first came out. So I assumed they were similar MOA's. Basically exactly what you were referring to. Once I thought they were similar I did not look into it any further due to joint arthritis issues. Thanks for the clarification, I knew you would be able to tell us the real deal. Hence the mention.I may have to add this to my TRT dose at some point and give it a try.
I can't use X-Gels myself because of my autoimmune condition, but am looking very forward to starting Phosphatidic Acid XT myself in a couple weeks.
I think that the misunderstanding was from people comparing the strength gains and muscle fullness they get from PA to ARA; but they work in completely different ways.
I think if you add it, that you would be very pleased with it. Most people see really good strength gains and great muscle fullness.
akboom87
Well-known member
Is the optimal time 8 weeks for the PA?
sns8778
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In my opinion, I think that should be the minimum time to use it for.
Personally, I think 12 to 16 weeks would be the best time period for someone that doesn't plan on running it year round; but a lot of people do use it year round, just like they would creatine or other things like that.
Phosphatidic Acid builds up in the system and results tend to get better over time - that's why some people front load it and double the dosage for the first couple of weeks on it. That doesn't need to be done, but some people like to in order to get it built up in their system faster.
My plan personally is going to be to frontload on it for 2 weeks and then run the regular dose for at least 16 to 20 weeks, and then I'll go from there on deciding whether to make it a year round use supplement for me, which I most likely will.
MrKleen73
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Excellent, this sounds like it will be awesome for some increased growth during my regular TRT doses in between blasts. I will keep an eye on the progress these guys are making and then may order some in a few months. About to kick off a little blast first.
Rocket3015
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I have not !
akboom87
Well-known member
Was a long day yesterday 16 hrs at site then drove back home. On the road at 4am this morning back to site. Should be the last day for me at least.
completed 36 hr fast checked in at 238.2 this morning. The wife did make me an awesome breakfast sandwich this morning I took with me and ate around the 36-37 hr mark. Going to fast until back home tonight or if it’s late again might hold out until breakfast.
Energy pretty good all considering, Applied Alpha gel last night just completely out like a light. This morning dose of PA XT and Alpha Gel before hitting the road. Definitely think this combo is giving me a little boost. Especially being out in the blazing sun all day and long drives and fasting, seemed to have had plenty of energy!
completed 36 hr fast checked in at 238.2 this morning. The wife did make me an awesome breakfast sandwich this morning I took with me and ate around the 36-37 hr mark. Going to fast until back home tonight or if it’s late again might hold out until breakfast.
Energy pretty good all considering, Applied Alpha gel last night just completely out like a light. This morning dose of PA XT and Alpha Gel before hitting the road. Definitely think this combo is giving me a little boost. Especially being out in the blazing sun all day and long drives and fasting, seemed to have had plenty of energy!
MrKleen73
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I haven't paid attention to anything Arnold has said or done since his "Screw your freedom!" rant about COVID vaccines a couple months ago. It doesn't wipe out everything he did, or how much he inspired me in the past, but I don't support him anymore. Not saying I won't ever watch any of his movies if they are free to me or on streaming, but I sure don't seek him out any more. Celebrities should stay out of the political landscape. You can act, sing, or some other talent, it does not make you smarter than the people who pay to be entertained by you.
Dustin07
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yeah man, I've been sleeping like a baby lately!! I have no idea why the alpha gel would do that, but I'm with you. fantastic sleep.
Since then he's come out with that are less than what I'd consider role model comments so yeah... my love of the Oak is dwindling as well.
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Airmaniac
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I’m so out of the loop when it comes to most things politics. Sounds crazy but I’ve never voted. Even past those things, I agree that he’s highly annoying these days. I remember being a kid and my grandpa putting on Predator with the disclaimer of “Don’t Tell Your Momma”. Naturally I gotta watch it plus my friends signed off on it. There’s a scene where he discusses wanting to change the terminators iconic line to “I will be back” as it sounded more robotic. He was told to get bent and keep it as “I’ll be back”. I guess the cool part is my friend/s who knew nothing about Arnold and think bodybuilding is such a weird sport/hobby/lifestyle loved it and this one girl even described it as inspirational haha. At the end of the day, the more the merrier
but yea the whole mandate the vaccine rant from him is weird. He can definitely get bent for that too.
Dustin07
Legend
I'm at 2 weeks now and feeling confident enough in the product that I have even brought back other products that may or may not have created nipple irritation in me. so far still no issues.
hercules_22
Active member
I may be mistaken but I could've swore I read somewhere on AM that PA shouldn't be dosed closed to the time you take whey protein. This was back in the days of Fearns SL granules.
hercules_22
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sns8778
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The study that you are referring to was looking at the effect of it at a very specific time - whereas in humans for building muscle, you're looking at the effect of supplementing with phosphatidic acid and it building up in the body for best results over time; completely different contexts.
Even Chemi Nutra, the company with the patents on Mediator, states that it can be used with or without food or a protein shake.
It's certainly fine to take it in the absence of a shake, I don't think that's going to be detrimental, but I wouldn't think anything about taking it with a protein shake myself.
I'm going to start on it in a couple of weeks, and my plan is to front load for 2 weeks at double dosing and one of those doses will be first thing in the morning, when I normally drink a shake. The second dose will be about an hour before I workout - and sometimes I may or may not be drinking a shake around that time period; that just depends on when I can fit in a workout on a given day.
I hope that helps.
akboom87
Well-known member
Thanks for the background and in depth answer!!
will be back in the gym tomorrow! Normally I would be pretty wiped as I have had 16 hr day and a 14 hour day and 600+ miles driving the last 2 days.
Will be ready to hit the gym and loving the increased endurance and stamina boost I have been getting!
LeanEngineer
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akboom87
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Today I was a little slow getting out of bed lol. Pretty happy too weighed in still 238.5
Gym time 5:30 am
I won’t list my warm up weights before each lift.
warmups1. 30 rep max for 12 reps
warmups 2. 20 rep max for 8 reps
Warmups 3. 10 rep max for 4 reps
Reps in reserve 8 de load week
started with good morning- empty bar X 12 reps 65# X 10 reps
squat- 160# X 8 reps X 6 reps - 8 RIR
Reverse DB lunge- 15# X 8 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
lying leg curl- 95# X 8 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
calf machine- 80# X 9 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
lap around the track carrying 45#plates/ lap with 35# plates/ lap with 25# plates
this was all the RP app had programmed for me today.
definitely a little deflated with the fasting this week and did not have a lot of carbs last night. Energy level still great! Muscle endurance does not seem to be suffering. The sleep has just been incredible since starting this stack!!
Gym time 5:30 am
I won’t list my warm up weights before each lift.
warmups1. 30 rep max for 12 reps
warmups 2. 20 rep max for 8 reps
Warmups 3. 10 rep max for 4 reps
Reps in reserve 8 de load week
started with good morning- empty bar X 12 reps 65# X 10 reps
squat- 160# X 8 reps X 6 reps - 8 RIR
Reverse DB lunge- 15# X 8 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
lying leg curl- 95# X 8 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
calf machine- 80# X 9 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
lap around the track carrying 45#plates/ lap with 35# plates/ lap with 25# plates
this was all the RP app had programmed for me today.
definitely a little deflated with the fasting this week and did not have a lot of carbs last night. Energy level still great! Muscle endurance does not seem to be suffering. The sleep has just been incredible since starting this stack!!
Dustin07
Legend
that's great man. often a bit of it comes back since part of the weight loss in me (and others) tends to be dehydration from not consuming enough salt/electrolytes during long fasts but if you're holding it off there's no doubt you have some fat burn in there for sure. Keep the afterburners at WOT bro looking good!
Rocket3015
Legend
Reaping the rewards of hard work !! Keep it up !
LeanEngineer
Legend
Getting good sleep is definitely underrated. I feel like a new person if I get a solid 8 hours of sleep.
akboom87
Well-known member
Little hard to drag out of bed this morning but I got up and got going!! 4 caps of PA XT on empty stomach hit the gym then shower application of Alpha Gel and a protein shake.
next week I will be starting a new mesocycle and I will up date my training routine.
Gym time 5:00 AM
I won’t list my warm up weights before each lift.
warmups1. 30 rep max for 12 reps
warmups 2. 20 rep max for 8 reps
Warmups 3. 10 rep max for 4 reps
Reps in reserve 8 de load week
DB flat bench- 25# X 8 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
Incline bench press- 50# X 8 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
Assisted pull ups- 120# X 6reps X 6reps - 8 RIR
cable over head Tricep extension - 15# X 10 reps X 10reps - 8 RIR
cable Tricep push down- 15# X 10 reps X 10 reps - 8 RIR
ez bar curl- 30# X 10 reps X 10 reps- 8 RIR
DB lat raise- 5# X 10 reps X 10 reps - 8 RIR
neck curls- 10# X 10 reps X 10 X 10
neck band side pulls- 10x10x10
leaning DB shrugs-50# X 8 X 8 X 8
next week I will be starting a new mesocycle and I will up date my training routine.
Gym time 5:00 AM
I won’t list my warm up weights before each lift.
warmups1. 30 rep max for 12 reps
warmups 2. 20 rep max for 8 reps
Warmups 3. 10 rep max for 4 reps
Reps in reserve 8 de load week
DB flat bench- 25# X 8 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
Incline bench press- 50# X 8 reps X 8 reps - 8 RIR
Assisted pull ups- 120# X 6reps X 6reps - 8 RIR
cable over head Tricep extension - 15# X 10 reps X 10reps - 8 RIR
cable Tricep push down- 15# X 10 reps X 10 reps - 8 RIR
ez bar curl- 30# X 10 reps X 10 reps- 8 RIR
DB lat raise- 5# X 10 reps X 10 reps - 8 RIR
neck curls- 10# X 10 reps X 10 X 10
neck band side pulls- 10x10x10
leaning DB shrugs-50# X 8 X 8 X 8
akboom87
Well-known member
Well today was a little rough didn’t feel all that hot this morning, slight headache. Still made the best of it. Grabbing a quick shower and taking a dose of PA XT and applied Alpha Gel.
I can say this so far Alpha Gel is by far the best smelling TD I have used hands down. Also applies super easy and I think dries pretty quick. Hands down has been the best sleep I have ever had. Also just gives me a general good feeling, can also attest that it has made bedroom shenanigans more frequent!
PA XT so far hands down the biggest thing I noticed is feelings of pumped up all day. Hit the gym in the morning and just have that nice muscle pump/fullness that car all day. There is no adverse burbs or after taste, I am taking these on an empty stomach pre workout.
will be excited for the next 3 weeks as I will pushing a new mesocycle 5 days a week and full body.
Gym time 9:00 AM
I won’t list my warm up weights before each lift.
warmups1. 30 rep max for 12 reps
warmups 2. 20 rep max for 8 reps
Warmups 3. 10 rep max for 4 reps
Reps in reserve 8 de load week
Leg extensions- 55# X 10 reps X 10 reps
cable pull through- 35# X 10 reps X 10 reps
Lying leg curl- 65# X 8 reps
calve machine- 40# X 8 reps X reps
that was it for today, wasn’t feeling super hot slight headache. Think I might have not hydrated up enough Thursday and Friday and it caught up to me today.
I can say this so far Alpha Gel is by far the best smelling TD I have used hands down. Also applies super easy and I think dries pretty quick. Hands down has been the best sleep I have ever had. Also just gives me a general good feeling, can also attest that it has made bedroom shenanigans more frequent!
PA XT so far hands down the biggest thing I noticed is feelings of pumped up all day. Hit the gym in the morning and just have that nice muscle pump/fullness that car all day. There is no adverse burbs or after taste, I am taking these on an empty stomach pre workout.
will be excited for the next 3 weeks as I will pushing a new mesocycle 5 days a week and full body.
Gym time 9:00 AM
I won’t list my warm up weights before each lift.
warmups1. 30 rep max for 12 reps
warmups 2. 20 rep max for 8 reps
Warmups 3. 10 rep max for 4 reps
Reps in reserve 8 de load week
Leg extensions- 55# X 10 reps X 10 reps
cable pull through- 35# X 10 reps X 10 reps
Lying leg curl- 65# X 8 reps
calve machine- 40# X 8 reps X reps
that was it for today, wasn’t feeling super hot slight headache. Think I might have not hydrated up enough Thursday and Friday and it caught up to me today.
Rocket3015
Legend
Great to hear you did at least git a good session in ! Missed workouts can be a bummer.
akboom87
Well-known member
Today is the start of new meso cycle, 5 days a week full body
Gym time 5:00 AM
I won’t list my warm up weights before each lift.
warmups1. 30 rep max for 12 reps
warmups 2. 20 rep max for 8 reps
Warmups 3. 10 rep max for 4 reps
Reps in reserve 2
incline DB bench- 50# X 10 reps X 9 reps X 7 reps
flat DB fly- 30# x 10 reps X 8 reps X 8 reps
Ez bar skull crusher- 60# X 8 reps X 8 reps X 6 reps ( neck curls between sets 10# X 8 reps 20# X 8 reps X 8 reps)
dips- BW X 6 reps X 4 reps
DB leaning shrug- 60# X 10 reps X 10 reps X 8 reps
BB upright row- 95# X 8 reps X 8 reps X 8 reps
Cable shrug- 95# X 10 reps X 8 reps X 8 reps
very nice session and was hungry to get after it. Pre workout caps of PA XT also this week trying out Alpha Gel pre workout application. Definitely feeling good nice pumps still have that fullness feeling at work!
Gym time 5:00 AM
I won’t list my warm up weights before each lift.
warmups1. 30 rep max for 12 reps
warmups 2. 20 rep max for 8 reps
Warmups 3. 10 rep max for 4 reps
Reps in reserve 2
incline DB bench- 50# X 10 reps X 9 reps X 7 reps
flat DB fly- 30# x 10 reps X 8 reps X 8 reps
Ez bar skull crusher- 60# X 8 reps X 8 reps X 6 reps ( neck curls between sets 10# X 8 reps 20# X 8 reps X 8 reps)
dips- BW X 6 reps X 4 reps
DB leaning shrug- 60# X 10 reps X 10 reps X 8 reps
BB upright row- 95# X 8 reps X 8 reps X 8 reps
Cable shrug- 95# X 10 reps X 8 reps X 8 reps
very nice session and was hungry to get after it. Pre workout caps of PA XT also this week trying out Alpha Gel pre workout application. Definitely feeling good nice pumps still have that fullness feeling at work!
MrKleen73
Legend
That sure does look pretty, are those turkey meatballs, or what type of ground meat is in them?
akboom87
Well-known member
Ground beef, we buy a half of beef every year so I make use of it!
MrKleen73
Legend
What are the estimated macros for each meatball? Just curious, that looked GOOD!
Dustin07
Legend
it's sooo nice having that much beef in the freezer, we just had our steer slaughtered over the weekend.. i am pumped.
akboom87
Well-known member
There is the break down for the meal.
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Rocket3015
Legend
Meal prep makes life so much easier!!!
MrKleen73
Legend
You are a very lucky man to have someone prepping your meals for you. I hope you show her the appreciation she deserves!!! Which I imagine you do from what I can tell about you from getting to know you a little on here.
akboom87
Well-known member
We make it a team effort! But for sure I appreciate all she does and would be lost without her! Since are daughter came into are world this March we have made a lot of new memories and have come together as a team and stronger then ever
LeanEngineer
Legend
Dang that looks good!