Caffeine intake

guoshuang

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I’m consuming 750mg caffeine pre workout daily if not more, and don’t feel the kick with less. Is this going to risk my health?
 
Most likely an individual thing. Some people react to and/or tolerate caffeine better than others. I haven’t dug into the research, but I’ve read before that blood levels of caffeine can vary by 14-fold person to person.
 
You will need more and more until your feeling sick all the time.
Once upon a time we all had much better workouts without any stims whatsoever.
 
botk1161 said:
You will need more and more until your feeling sick all the time.
Once upon a time we all had much better workouts without any stims whatsoever.
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I don’t think it’s necessarily any better, but sure as heck not worse. Stims only do so much.
 
guoshuang said:
I’m consuming 750mg caffeine pre workout daily if not more, and don’t feel the kick with less. Is this going to risk my health?
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750mg all at once Is not healthy. The fda reccomendations is a maximum of 400 per day! If you need that much caffeine then you need about a 2 week stimulant break and it will reset your Tolerance, it won't work if you try to just lower the dose. Need to go about 10-14 days with no caffeine or stims to do this. At one point in time I was consuming 1200mg daily, not in one dose but spread out through the day. It's bad for your heart and brain, too much caffeine also breaks down muscle tissue too.
 
I think that 750 mg. at one time is way too much and if you need that much, I think that's a good indication like mentioned above, that you need to take a break from caffeine to try to reduce your tolerance to it.

I try to never go above 500 ever on any day from all sources combined.
 
Smont said:
750mg all at once Is not healthy. The fda reccomendations is a maximum of 400 per day! If you need that much caffeine then you need about a 2 week stimulant break and it will reset your Tolerance, it won't work if you try to just lower the dose. Need to go about 10-14 days with no caffeine or stims to do this. At one point in time I was consuming 1200mg daily, not in one dose but spread out through the day. It's bad for your heart and brain, too much caffeine also breaks down muscle tissue too.
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FDA also recommends 50 grams of protein a day
 
Potbelly said:
FDA also recommends 50 grams of protein a day
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Your comparing apples to oranges

Also, the average American is not very active and doesn't lift weights. 50gm of protein is plenty for a couch potato. The fda protein requirements are not 50gm for everyone, that's the minimum amount of protein based on a sedentary person on a 2000 calories diet
 
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Smont said:
Your comparing apples to oranges

Also, the average American is not very active and doesn't lift weights. 50gm of protein is plenty for a couch potato. The fda protein requirements are not 50gm for everyone, that's the minimum amount of protein based on a sedentary person on a 2000 calories diet
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Yea ok
 
I personally wouldn't worry about it but also what's the point of it doesn't work. I had a crazy high coffee with tons of caffeine I I was mixing in all said and done the amount I'd drink would come out to 1000mgs over a few hours. Caffeine itself doesn't have much of an effect on me. Even checked blood pressure and it hardly moved. Maybe instead of all that caffeine try some other stims. 200mgs caffeine plus 25 mgs of ephedrine works great for me. Also dmaa and dmha you could look into. Thing is with those I wouldn't recommend every day. Save it for the hard workouts. Another thing that works great for energy is Kratom and caffeine. Probably worst thing ever if you have an addictive personality. Absolutely don't take it every day. Also I would at least check your blood pressure and heart rate if you insist on taking that much just to be sure. You may be like me and caffeine just doesn't have much of an effect by itself. Or you may be spiking your heart rate and blood pressure way up and not know it.
 
Jeremyk1 said:
Most recommendations for nutrients are based on preventing deficiencies. You’d have to look at that protein amount as a minimum, not that they think more is unhealthy.
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Exactly, there's a huge difference between a safe limit of a stimulant (and 400's not a lot, that's a safety recommendation, not a cut off for death lol) and a minimum protein requirement for a person to survive and be healthy.
 
That is a huge amount tbh. What are your stats?
I'm a huge coffee guy, I love to drink at least 4-5 cups a day ( not starbucks ).
I tend to cycle my coffee once a year, 1 month off, and then I can feel it kick much stronger.
Our body's tends to adopt to everything, so cycle it away.
 
Smont said:
Exactly, there's a huge difference between a safe limit of a stimulant (and 400's not a lot, that's a safety recommendation, not a cut off for death lol) and a minimum protein requirement for a person to survive and be healthy.
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Yea ok
 
Potbelly said:
i get it fool you’re the one dick riding a dude that thinks he knows everything
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No your just the little passive aggressive guy that knows nothing, so when you can't understand simple things this is how you react, kinda like a teenage girl. Carry on princess
 
Potbelly said:
Yea ok
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Ya. Factual information usually is "ok" I'm not even gonna give you the Courtesy of viewing your response, I'm just gonna put you on ignore, you don't exactly do anything that benefits anyone around here anyway
 
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Smont said:
Ya. Factual information usually is "ok" I'm not even gonna give you the Courtesy of viewing your response, I'm just gonna put you on ignore, you don't exactly do anything that benefits anyone around here anyway
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Oh look the boxer talking ****. What do you do around here? You have been called numerous times. Chime in on everything even if you don’t know.
 
I personally don't look at the FDA number on caffeine as a guideline, but it is a personal guideline to me for myself based on may studies. I personally try to not exceed 500 mg. total per day - that doesn't mean I think that people are necessarily going to fall out if they do, but I feel that once get too high on caffeine it can have negative health consequences - and most importantly, I think that after a certain dose, it isn't more that is needed but instead a break that is needed.

From a company perspective, I would never ever put 750 mg. of caffeine in a product as I consider it irresponsible and dangerous in the sense that a lot of people don't monitor their caffeine intake and there is no way to know the person using it hasn't already drank 3 cups of coffee that day or something like that. But I'm not judging those that, as business is business and to each their own. But I can say from a responsibility standpoint, I would never include more than 450 mg. of caffeine as the maximum dose in a pre-workout product from any brand I was associated with if combining other stims in the product.
 
Caffeine before a workout would not be harmful. It provides various benefits. It’s central nervous system stimulant and contained in green tea and coffee. Taking Invalid Link Removed makes you more active and alert toward your fitness goal. It’s good for improving strength and power, you won’t feel dizzy.
This will maintain the proper working of your body, but too much intake of caffeine can be harmful. If it’s intake is limited then it’s good otherwise excess of everything is bad.
 
There are NO risks with caffeine like with sodium. The caffeine in cofee/tea is associated with lower mortality rates. People who drink 2-5 cups a day have 20 % lower risk of death from all causes compared to non-drinkers.
Only thing to think about is cofee and tea can block vegan iron if taken close to a meal (non heme iron). And it's dierutic -so drinking it often can cause some mineral excretion. Which is not a problem if you keep a balanced diet ofcourse.

We're talking plain cofee/tea with plain milk/cream/butter btw. We're not talking frappuchinos, sodas and star bucks which is rather a source of refined sugar than a pure caffeine source. think about that, you people who buy flavoured cofees from your barista. some cofee's from star bucks are as heavy as a McDonalds meal in kals&sugar and probably contains things like palm oil.
 
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If the OP takes 750mg of caffeine and gets nothing out of it, he might want to check where he gets it. Makes no sense to sell
fake or weak caffeine but this isn’t normal either.
Seems like I read a kid, teenager took 1g several years ago and it killed him.
 
JKVol said:
If the OP takes 750mg of caffeine and gets nothing out of it, he might want to check where he gets it. Makes no sense to sell
fake or weak caffeine but this isn’t normal either.
Seems like I read a kid, teenager took 1g several years ago and it killed him.
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It could Definitely kill you. Amounts below that, Drastically increase my blood pressure.
 
Renew1 said:
It could Definitely kill you. Amounts below that, Drastically increase my blood pressure.
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No one takes more than 200-400mg of caffeine anhydrous because its so strong compared to the diluted caffeine from cofee. You can die from many supplements if you dont know the upper limit. Even 5 glasses of water in a short time can kill you lol.

Dmaa, dhma, yohimbine and ephedrine are examples of other dangerous stims
 
vlsk10 said:
No one takes more than 200-400mg of caffeine anhydrous because its so strong compared to the diluted caffeine from cofee. You can die from many supplements if you dont know the upper limit. Even 5 glasses of water in a short time can kill you lol.

Dmaa, dhma, yohimbine and ephedrine are examples of other dangerous stims
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Agreed, you can.
But we were talking about caffeine, and it's possible dangers. I use caffeine daily, and it is one of my Dr's top concerns for my health.
 
JKVol said:
If the OP takes 750mg of caffeine and gets nothing out of it, he might want to check where he gets it. Makes no sense to sell
fake or weak caffeine but this isn’t normal either.
Seems like I read a kid, teenager took 1g several years ago and it killed him.
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True. He playing with fire. Dancing with the devil.

I only take a 150mg caffeine anhydrous and I feel like Im getting the flu or something above 250mg. Like Really sick. Caffeine is horrible supplement for cardio (from coffee is fine). I'll tell you supplements that are a hundred times better for performance during high intensive training. Cordyceps mushrooms, cayenne pepper and coenzym 10. All these increase stamina without giving you a heart attack
 
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