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its long gone. I would keep your heads on a swivel. no telling what kind of sh17 the liberals will try this weekend.
If Republicans can throw a tanty over election results, "liberals" can throw a tanty over a loss of constitutional protection.

This is absolutely a step towards the US being a theocracy
 
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If Republicans can throw a tanty over election results, "liberals" can throw a tanty over a loss of constitutional protection.

This is absolutely a step towards the US being a theocracy
i see you have been rivetted to the J6 hearings on MSM. If you did any due diligence of your own, you would know it was all a set up to make good honest reps and dems (trumpers) look bad. NOT A SINGLE THING WAS BURNT DOWN, and literally everyone was let in.

those doors are freaking electronically locked steel doors that are blast proof. how you suppose all those harmless unarmed people got through those? did they huff and puff until they blew open? no.

the "tanty" is not real. yet we now have assassins trying to take out SCOTUS.
 
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No excuse to use abortion as a form of birth control. First thing about the birds and the bees my dad taught me was you always keep a condom in your wallet.
 
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W/E :D ooooo good comeback.. you got called out and had to google a retort.
now.. kindly proceed to go fist yourself. it looks good on u
You literally thought Trickle Down economics was made up.

Why are you so upset about being told you were wrong? My guess is that you read on Twitter or Gab that trickle down economics wasn't real and you believed it.

The problem with the internet is that uneducated old people have no way to filter out true information from the noise of internet BS. So they believe everything, except the true stuff.
 
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i see you have been rivetted to the J6 hearings on MSM. If you did any due diligence of your own, you would know it was all a set up to make good honest reps and dems (trumpers) look bad. NOT A SINGLE THING WAS BURNT DOWN, and literally everyone was let in.

those doors are freaking electronically locked steel doors that are blast proof. how you suppose all those harmless unarmed people got through those? did they huff and puff until they blew open? no.

the "tanty" is not real. yet we now have assassins trying to take out SCOTUS.
But a cop was killed, and yet your threshold for what is considered peaceful is whether or not something was burnt down?
 
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No excuse to use abortion as a form of birth control. First thing about the birds and the bees my dad taught me was you always keep a condom in your wallet.
Except it being overturned isn't just stopping those abortions, it's all the others too.

Incest, rape (including spousal rape) etc. If you've ever worked law enforcement which I guarantee most people in this thread have not, you'd know how big spousal rape is.

Not only that, but people having children together then the guy just up and leaves and says "he can't deal with it anymore", but now the girl has no choice but to deal with it. So why does the guy get a free pass and just walk?

A lot of you need to get out of your little bubbles and realise the world is bigger than you.
 
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Why are the women labeled skanks when the men also refuse to wear protection? Takes 2 to have sex, yet only one is now being punished. It's always "well the women should need to take the pill" but yet no responsibility put on the man AT ALL. Pills are hormonal and anyone who has been with a women will tell you just how much the pills can mess them up.

If you ban abortions, then legally the man should be castrated or be legally obligated to have vasectomies before they want to have children but that will never happen because, and get this, they don't want to be told by law to have a vasectomy but have no problem telling women that by law they cannot have an abortion.

Funny how the my body my choice people were anti being mandated how to treat their body but are all for telling others how to manage theirs.

I think the term hypocrite applies here.
Indeed. Yes, the men involved in these unwanted pregnancies are skanks too. Vasectomies sound like a great plan to me. If all these people know they don’t want kids but love having unprotected sex, it’s pretty clear what should be going on.
 

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Why are the women labeled skanks when the men also refuse to wear protection? Takes 2 to have sex, yet only one is now being punished. It's always "well the women should need to take the pill" but yet no responsibility put on the man AT ALL. Pills are hormonal and anyone who has been with a women will tell you just how much the pills can mess them up.
It takes two to have sex but it's no mystery that women bare the greater consequences of sexual intercourse. That absolute requires the female to take greater responsibility. The (most) responsible party is the party which receives the most accolades and criticisms. This is a rather obvious constant in human society. Why would pregnancy be any different? Pregnant women are fawned over for 9 months and more while fathers are a side piece, the woman's gofer and mocked for their clumsy, panicked bedside manner on the day of delivery.

This is absolutely a step towards the US being a theocracy
Never in the history of the country has the US has been farther from being a theocracy. One does not have to be particularly religious to favor restrictions to the barbaric institution of abortion.

But a cop was killed, and yet your threshold for what is considered peaceful is whether or not something was burnt down?
Where do you get your information? There were no cops killed in the January 6th riot. One person was killed on January 6th, an unarmed protester shot by Capitol police. Please stop spreading bogus information.
 
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Pharma trest should be readily available OTC as male birth control. My jacked body, my reasonable choice.
 
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A cop was not killed that was debunked by the cops family the same time the story got out locally. Outlets corrected it after the damage was done because as we see here most people do not read corrections.

Also for shits and giggles where is abortion in the constitution? I know there is a 10th amendment that allows states to choose but I do not recall coming across an amendment saying their is a right to abortion.

I think there is some good faith arguments on both sides, but to me it seems society is not pro choice vs pro life it’s more pro life vs pro abortion…at any time for any reason.
 
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Also I am all in favor of much stricter sentences for rapists.
 
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Also I am all in favor of much stricter sentences for rapists.
I vote for death.

But I mean actual rape. Not all these younger generation tards that run around claiming rape in an attempt to ruin lives just because they hate men but love the penis.
 
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I vote for death.

But I mean actual rape. Not all these younger generation tards that run around claiming rape in an attempt to ruin lives just because they hate men but love the penis.
I’d be cool with castration even to meet half way
 
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I’d be cool with castration even to meet half way
A total penectomy. No questions asked.

We would never have anyone attempt rape again.

(I don’t suggest looking up penectomy pictures as I just did)
 
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Indeed. Yes, the men involved in these unwanted pregnancies are skanks too. Vasectomies sound like a great plan to me. If all these people know they don’t want kids but love having unprotected sex, it’s pretty clear what should be going on.
Pretty reasonable.

But as far as the ruling goes where every other supreme court ruling has been in favour of extending freedoms, this is one that rolls back freedoms REGARDLESS of what your convictions are, this is a HUGE rollback
 
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A cop was not killed that was debunked by the cops family the same time the story got out locally. Outlets corrected it after the damage was done because as we see here most people do not read corrections.

Also for shits and giggles where is abortion in the constitution? I know there is a 10th amendment that allows states to choose but I do not recall coming across an amendment saying their is a right to abortion.

I think there is some good faith arguments on both sides, but to me it seems society is not pro choice vs pro life it’s more pro life vs pro abortion…at any time for any reason.
Oh really? Wow. Ok thanks for the correction on that.

Edit: Brian Sicknick died the next day. Although he died from a stroke, the coronor literally said his death is attributable to the events the day before.

So yeah, I'm going to chalk that up to him being killed by protesters. Whether it was on the 6th or 7th is irrelevant. He was killed.

It might not be explicitly mentioned, but neither is slavery or slaves. Are you saying that could be reverted as well given it isn't explicit in the constitution?

All it would take is for the Supreme Court to rule that slavery isn't explicitly forbidden in the constitution (which it isn't because the founding fathers all had slaves) for them to rule that "the states can decide". And you KNOW some states are frothing at the mouth for a chance to own slaves again
 
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It takes two to have sex but it's no mystery that women bare the greater consequences of sexual intercourse. That absolute requires the female to take greater responsibility. The (most) responsible party is the party which receives the most accolades and criticisms. This is a rather obvious constant in human society. Why would pregnancy be any different? Pregnant women are fawned over for 9 months and more while fathers are a side piece, the woman's gofer and mocked for their clumsy, panicked bedside manner on the day of delivery.



Never in the history of the country has the US has been farther from being a theocracy. One does not have to be particularly religious to favor restrictions to the barbaric institution of abortion.



Where do you get your information? There were no cops killed in the January 6th riot. One person was killed on January 6th, an unarmed protester shot by Capitol police. Please stop spreading bogus information.
Wtf lol.

The "female" cannot undo a pregnancy when the "male" has also decided they want a child, only to vanish during pregnancy. It happens ALL the time. Who holds them accountable? Child support at $5 a week if they're lucky? No obligation to actually take the child. At any moment during a pregnancy a man can walk away and leave the mother. People say the solution is foster care, but the majority of people saying that are not foster parents. It's easy to SAY a solution but put no effort into actually being the solution. Now more children are going to enter the foster system, and put more strain on an already strained system.

What you're effectively saying is f*ck it, if the man wants to run then the women have no choice but to be stuck with a baby they cannot raise alone, only for ME to then judge them from seeking support from welfare.

Because that's exactly what you're saying.

No women should be FORCED to continue a pregnancy that neither the man or the women want. It's a bunch of cells.

Should be a crime to ejaculate if you have that much issue with cell death
 
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A cop was not killed that was debunked by the cops family the same time the story got out locally. Outlets corrected it after the damage was done because as we see here most people do not read corrections.

Also for shits and giggles where is abortion in the constitution? I know there is a 10th amendment that allows states to choose but I do not recall coming across an amendment saying their is a right to abortion.

I think there is some good faith arguments on both sides, but to me it seems society is not pro choice vs pro life it’s more pro life vs pro abortion…at any time for any reason.
The pro life crowd are not pro life. They are projecting their religious convictions into a society that is not religious.

If they were pro life, they'd be pro raising the minimum wage to a living wage, they'd be pro healthcare and supporting families and so on, but they're not.

How many of the same "pro-life" people here are against actually helping children that are born? Almost zero. That's not pro-life.

No matter how you paint it, this is religious policy disguised as pro-life and is about as restrictive as Muslim policy.
 
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The pro life crowd are not pro life. They are projecting their religious convictions into a society that is not religious.

If they were pro life, they'd be pro raising the minimum wage to a living wage, they'd be pro healthcare and supporting families and so on, but they're not.

How many of the same "pro-life" people here are against actually helping children that are born? Almost zero. That's not pro-life.

No matter how you paint it, this is religious policy disguised as pro-life and is about as restrictive as Muslim policy.
Arbitrarily just raising wages does not work. It doesn’t even pass the smell test. If things were that easy we could tell third world countries to just raise their wages and everything would be fixed.

Since our government has started messing with money through they Keynesian inflation forever growth motto we have had repeated boom bust cycles which F.A. Hayek(actual economist) won a a Nobel prize for illustrating for all to see. That didn’t stop the **** policies or schools teaching real economics.
 
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Oh really? Wow. Ok thanks for the correction on that.

Edit: Brian Sicknick died the next day. Although he died from a stroke, the coronor literally said his death is attributable to the events the day before.

So yeah, I'm going to chalk that up to him being killed by protesters. Whether it was on the 6th or 7th is irrelevant. He was killed.

It might not be explicitly mentioned, but neither is slavery or slaves. Are you saying that could be reverted as well given it isn't explicit in the constitution?

All it would take is for the Supreme Court to rule that slavery isn't explicitly forbidden in the constitution (which it isn't because the founding fathers all had slaves) for them to rule that "the states can decide". And you KNOW some states are frothing at the mouth for a chance to own slaves again
Are we doing to pretend the story was not he was bludgeoned by a fire extinguisher that every corporate press outlet reported? Even if you believe what you say it’s pretty obvious their is an amazing amount of lying and propaganda going on against the MAGA people. Say like the governor kidnapping plan by the FBI that got like 100,000 tweets, the Hunter Biden laptop being called Russian disinformation by over 40 people in the government even though it was true, Russia gate hoax, Smollett, Covington kids, Rittenhouse, etc etc

I guess you can’t blame them because it works.
 
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Also since I guess it’s not well known the 13th amendment abolished slavery, so it is still a pretty bad argument.
 
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the coronor literally said his death is attributable to the events the day before.

So yeah, I'm going to chalk that up to him being killed by protesters.
so some liberal coronor is truth speak? I'll request a second opinion. AND lets not just jump to conclusions...

after deleting the rest of your insane giberish, I realised you are exactly what the problem is with the world today. since you like to jump, why don't you just go jump off one of those giant cliffs in NZ? do us all a favor. your time has come and gone. liberalism is on its way out.

you have a disease.
 
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I just disagree with fact a traumatic event with a heart attack on a different day being murder.

By that logic if a cop had a heart attack a day after a “peaceful” protest would that make the protesters cop killers? Expand that out to all situations. How would that hold in court? How strong is the evidence? Can you scientifically prove that a person wouldn’t die from the number 1 killer in America having not been involved in a rough event? Aren’t cops supposed to handle these things? Could any cop who has a heart attack look back to a bad work day and claim cop killers?

It just seems extremely flawed if you think about it logically. It also seems something that would be easily abused and add to our unequal justice under the law.
 
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Arbitrarily just raising wages does not work. It doesn’t even pass the smell test. If things were that easy we could tell third world countries to just raise their wages and everything would be fixed.

Since our government has started messing with money through they Keynesian inflation forever growth motto we have had repeated boom bust cycles which F.A. Hayek(actual economist) won a a Nobel prize for illustrating for all to see. That didn’t stop the **** policies or schools teaching real economics.
Keeping wages low hasn't helped stem inflation, we can see that via your economy at the moment. So all it does is reduce the buying power of the poorest people in your nation.

Whereas look to other western nations and *shock* having higher wages improves the standard of living. But only the US thinks it doesn't work, similar to healthcare. Works everywhere BUT the US. Why is that?
 
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Are we doing to pretend the story was not he was bludgeoned by a fire extinguisher that every corporate press outlet reported? Even if you believe what you say it’s pretty obvious their is an amazing amount of lying and propaganda going on against the MAGA people. Say like the governor kidnapping plan by the FBI that got like 100,000 tweets, the Hunter Biden laptop being called Russian disinformation by over 40 people in the government even though it was true, Russia gate hoax, Smollett, Covington kids, Rittenhouse, etc etc

I guess you can’t blame them because it works.
He still died, and he died because of the actions of the people present.

You can watch the footage of it happening. It's right there in black and white
 
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I just disagree with fact a traumatic event with a heart attack on a different day being murder.

By that logic if a cop had a heart attack a day after a “peaceful” protest would that make the protesters cop killers? Expand that out to all situations. How would that hold in court? How strong is the evidence? Can you scientifically prove that a person wouldn’t die from the number 1 killer in America having not been involved in a rough event? Aren’t cops supposed to handle these things? Could any cop who has a heart attack look back to a bad work day and claim cop killers?

It just seems extremely flawed if you think about it logically. It also seems something that would be easily abused and add to our unequal justice under the law.
The coronor, aka the person who investigated the facts stated it was directly due to the actions of what happened to him. Directly attributed.

So yeah, whether or not you agree you're just shifting the blame away from the perpetrators, which is EXACTLY what they want you to do.

The coronor literally said it was directly attributed to the attack on him.

When people get hit on the head by a pipe, they die from something like hemorrhaging on the brain. Can we now just say "yeah but that can happen naturally so how can we attribute it to him getting hit on the head by a pipe".

Because it wouldn't have happened without him getting hit on the head by a pipe, that's why
 
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so some liberal coronor is truth speak? I'll request a second opinion. AND lets not just jump to conclusions...

after deleting the rest of your insane giberish, I realised you are exactly what the problem is with the world today. since you like to jump, why don't you just go jump off one of those giant cliffs in NZ? do us all a favor. your time has come and gone. liberalism is on its way out.

you have a disease.
Not everyone who has a different opinion is liberal. The Chief medical examiner for DC is conservative. Unless you can find where it says otherwise.

Imagine an old boomer like yourself getting this heated on the internet man. Telling someone to die? Bet you call yourself a Christian too.
 
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Also since I guess it’s not well known the 13th amendment abolished slavery, so it is still a pretty bad argument.
Wasn't part of the original constitution.

Republicans want all voters to have ID, yet that's in direct violation of the 20-something amendment. Is it a good idea? Sure, but is it also unconstitutional, definitely.

"The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age"

But that detracts from the point - regardless of whether or not it is actually specifically mentioned in the constitution, your morality should never dictate someone else's choices. The fact is, people are imposing their religious convictions on others who have now made that policy into law.

Whether you are pro choice or pro life it doesn't matter. Your convictions are your own and there is nothing wrong with those convictions - whether they are religious or otherwise. But imposing those convictions onto others simply because they are yours is not OK. Especially when those choices literally do not effect you.

All the abortions that have happened haven't impacted you at all, and the rest in the future will not impact you in any way. But now, you are imposing your own convictions onto others because you personally don't agree.
 
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Keeping wages low hasn't helped stem inflation, we can see that via your economy at the moment. So all it does is reduce the buying power of the poorest people in your nation.

Whereas look to other western nations and *shock* having higher wages improves the standard of living. But only the US thinks it doesn't work, similar to healthcare. Works everywhere BUT the US. Why is that?
Your statement just misses so much nuance in economics. I’m not trying to be a dick saying that. You literally just ignored my first point. I don’t really know it’s necessary to bring in the other nuances since you didn’t address the first one.
 
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The coronor, aka the person who investigated the facts stated it was directly due to the actions of what happened to him. Directly attributed.

So yeah, whether or not you agree you're just shifting the blame away from the perpetrators, which is EXACTLY what they want you to do.

The coronor literally said it was directly attributed to the attack on him.

When people get hit on the head by a pipe, they die from something like hemorrhaging on the brain. Can we now just say "yeah but that can happen naturally so how can we attribute it to him getting hit on the head by a pipe".

Because it wouldn't have happened without him getting hit on the head by a pipe, that's why
He did not die from being bludgeoned and it was reported that way day of by local media in the area. You’re buying a lie here, or making up a whole new category of what is murder.
 
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Wasn't part of the original constitution.

Republicans want all voters to have ID, yet that's in direct violation of the 20-something amendment. Is it a good idea? Sure, but is it also unconstitutional, definitely.

"The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age"

But that detracts from the point - regardless of whether or not it is actually specifically mentioned in the constitution, your morality should never dictate someone else's choices. The fact is, people are imposing their religious convictions on others who have now made that policy into law.

Whether you are pro choice or pro life it doesn't matter. Your convictions are your own and there is nothing wrong with those convictions - whether they are religious or otherwise. But imposing those convictions onto others simply because they are yours is not OK. Especially when those choices literally do not effect you.

All the abortions that have happened haven't impacted you at all, and the rest in the future will not impact you in any way. But now, you are imposing your own convictions onto others because you personally don't agree.
Right but you just said “citizens.” How do you prove they are citizens? And with the amount of things people need IDs for why wouldn’t you just get the cheap IDs to people? Seems the only concern is ability to vote and not the litany of things IDs are used for.

The least valuable thing my ID does for me, by a landslide, is the ability to vote in federal elections.
 
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Jiigzz I want to be clear I do think there are some cases where an abortion could be a necessary evil for lack of better term. It’s just hard for me to support the modern day abortion activists. I don’t want morals legislated; my hope would be the people to have higher standards, morals, ethics.

But then the slippery slope of “who’s morals?” It’s all very complicated if people can think past first effect. Most policies, actions, etc have 2nd, 3rd, 4th effects that are ignored until a new single minded solution comes up that adds more problems.

All very complicated.
 
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Your statement just misses so much nuance in economics. I’m not trying to be a dick saying that. You literally just ignored my first point. I don’t really know it’s necessary to bring in the other nuances since you didn’t address the first one.
You're comparing a 3rd world economy to a first world one - it's not comparable because poverty and unemployment are so high, and those who get paid are typically farmers for large corps that don't pay fair wages. That on top of poor infrastructure, poor sanitation, lower education and so on. You cant raise wages in a poor economy because the money isn't there - in the US economy it is, but employers refuse to raise because it hurts their profits and earning potential. Walmart, one of the US's largest employers, literally has "how to get food stamps" as part of their onboarding process despite profits in the hundreds of Billions.

Now when you actually compare first world to first world the story is immensely different. Look at Scandinavian countries with some of the highest standards of living available and then look at their minimum and average wages. It's a joke to say that lifting wages doesn't work when the global case study literally tells us it does.
 
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Right but you just said “citizens.” How do you prove they are citizens? And with the amount of things people need IDs for why wouldn’t you just get the cheap IDs to people? Seems the only concern is ability to vote and not the litany of things IDs are used for.

The least valuable thing my ID does for me, by a landslide, is the ability to vote in federal elections.
I'm all for ID, but don't you have Social Security Numbers that are unique to each citizen?

Edit: seems they're not secure.

Again, I'm all for ID but it all comes down to interpretation of the amendment as to how each section is suitably enforced. So to one person an ID might not be enough as they can be easily forged. So at what point is that right being infringed
 
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He did not die from being bludgeoned and it was reported that way day of by local media in the area. You’re buying a lie here, or making up a whole new category of what is murder.
I didn't say he was murdered, just that his death is attributable to the events. And that doesn't discuss other officers who have subsequently committed suicide post Jan 6th
 
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Jiigzz I want to be clear I do think there are some cases where an abortion could be a necessary evil for lack of better term. It’s just hard for me to support the modern day abortion activists. I don’t want morals legislated; my hope would be the people to have higher standards, morals, ethics.

But then the slippery slope of “who’s morals?” It’s all very complicated if people can think past first effect. Most policies, actions, etc have 2nd, 3rd, 4th effects that are ignored until a new single minded solution comes up that adds more problems.

All very complicated.
At the moment it is absolutely Christian morals being imposed on non-Christians.

Condoms aren't a guarantee against pregnancy, so even when precautions are taken it can still happen.

There are stories of "pro-life" advocates going to abortion clinics who come up with every excuse and justification why they are there because to them their reasons for an abortion are valid and everyone else is a slut. You cant make this stuff up.
 
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But a cop was killed, and yet your threshold for what is considered peaceful is whether or not something was burnt down?
No police officers were killed by Dump supporters on the 6th. 4 were from suicide, a common problem these days in our police forces, and another had 2 strokes in his office later that day. The one they usually refer to was Brian Sicknick, so he died of natural causes, not murder. Official autopsy reports show there was no head trama, nope, none but they dont want to apologize for misleading the public. There is no murder case.
 
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No women should be FORCED to continue a pregnancy that neither the man or the women want. It's a bunch of cells.
But do you see a point where it no longer is a "bunch of cells?"

I mean at some point it not and we can balance and have reasonable timeline to get it, right?
 
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How many of the same "pro-life" people here are against actually helping children that are born? Almost zero. That's not pro-life.
Im not with the "pro-life" crown, but generally conservatives are far more charitable than liberals, and liberals are far more authoritarian and just want implement charity via force of the barrel of a government gun so they can make people dependent as a means to control them.
 
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The coronor, aka the person who investigated the facts stated it was directly due to the actions of what happened to him. Directly attributed.

So yeah, whether or not you agree you're just shifting the blame away from the perpetrators, which is EXACTLY what they want you to do.

The coronor literally said it was directly attributed to the attack on him.

When people get hit on the head by a pipe, they die from something like hemorrhaging on the brain. Can we now just say "yeah but that can happen naturally so how can we attribute it to him getting hit on the head by a pipe".

Because it wouldn't have happened without him getting hit on the head by a pipe, that's why

The autopsy found no evidence of an allergic reaction to chemicals, nor of internal or external injuries, Dr Francisco Diaz said.

Officer Sicknick, 42, was defending the Capitol building from supporters of then President Donald Trump who stormed it on 6 January. He collapsed after returning to his office during the siege, and died the next day in hospital.

In his ruling, Dr Diaz found Officer Sicknick died of a medical condition which was not brought on by an injury.

 
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All the abortions that have happened haven't impacted you at all, and the rest in the future will not impact you in any way. But now, you are imposing your own convictions onto others because you personally don't agree.
The cop that you think was murdered in D.C. hadnt impacted you at all either, it doesnt mean you cant be compassionate about human life.
 
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Jiigzz I want to be clear I do think there are some cases where an abortion could be a necessary evil for lack of better term. It’s just hard for me to support the modern day abortion activists. I don’t want morals legislated; my hope would be the people to have higher standards, morals, ethics.

But then the slippery slope of “who’s morals?” It’s all very complicated if people can think past first effect. Most policies, actions, etc have 2nd, 3rd, 4th effects that are ignored until a new single minded solution comes up that adds more problems.

All very complicated.
Modern day pro-abortion activists:

My body, my choice......but I want you to take the vaccine or we will all strip your life away and discriminate against your choice of what you want in your body.
 
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Russia might have weak forces, but their nuclear weapons arsenal is nothing to scoff at. A person might not be able to fist fight, but the second they pull out a firearm them not being able to fist fight is irrelevant.

Syria wasn't ex-soviet union territory. Why would Putin want a nuclear war over a place of dirt somewhere in the middle east? Putin believes Ukraine to be a rightful part of Russia, and I'm willing to bet he is much more willing to extend himself to prove as much. If you're wondering who I believe when it comes to whether or not they would use nuclear weapons, do I believe a random internet person who believes they won't, or a statement from Russia themselves saying they would? I'm more inclined to believe the latter.

Your post still deflects from your original comment that Russia wouldn't use nuclear weapons unless there was a threat on their soil directly. If your only counter argument is that "they haven't yet" it's because NATO hasn't entered into the Ukraine directly yet.

Shooting down missiles isn't still actively moving troops into a country Russia is telling NATO not to enter. Not even remotely the same thing. Russia wants Ukraine, it didn't want Syria
I know this is a older topic I quoting, but check this out, now Russia is sending nuke capable missiles into Belarus.

 

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