LeanEngineer
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Nice all time best numbers on bench and deadlift! I think my best on bench is 335 and deadlift is 495 so we're in a similar boat.
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Nice all time best numbers on bench and deadlift! I think my best on bench is 335 and deadlift is 495 so we're in a similar boat.
Smont
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Just a heads up, I'm taking today off completely, tomorrow just boxing only and maybe do 1 lifting day over the weekend. Even tho I had a fantastic workout Tuesday, yesterday's workouts seemed completely off. Strength on all leg stuff was down significantly. I think it had more to do with my feet being in pain then the actual leg strength. But on top of the fact that my feet have been bothering me, and that yesterdays workouts kinda sucked, I've been looking through my book and I've been doing doubles for like 12 out of 15 days and I'm putting 2+2 together and I think I need to take a little extra rest. I was riding the wave for a while and I'd like to avoid the crash
cheftepesh1
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A day off is always good here and there. Sometimes it helps you regain some added strength the body needs.
Smont
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Ya, I just felt like there was a big dip in performance yesterday and I've been noticing my feet have been in more pain then normal. I don't think I necessarily need to deload yet but I think a step backwards might me what the Dr. Ordered. Take the frequency and intensity down for a couple days
LeanEngineer
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I have to make myself have rest days as well and it's definitely needed rest days with workouts and work. I neglected rest days a lot of the time in the past and then got burnt out and fatigued
Smont
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Well, 1 day off and my feet honestly feel 10x better, I sat on the couch all day yesterday. Only got up to eat and do a few minor things around the house. I'm thinking I do the same thing today, maybe some light on my feet stuff tonight like doing abs. I've also been wanting to incorporate some grip work and neck training.
Any1 got ideas on how to incorporate those? I mean, I know what to do for training the muscle but where to fit them in.
Do I do a day dedicated to all the oddball body parts? Neck work, grip and ankle stretch stuff.
Or maybe do them a couple times a week before regular workouts.
Push with some extra mobility stuff
Pull with some neck stuff
Legs with grip work?
Just looking for ideas.
Todays bodyweight is 195 lbs, I have a weeks worth of the initial bottle of thermoamp and 3.5 weeks worth left in total
Any1 got ideas on how to incorporate those? I mean, I know what to do for training the muscle but where to fit them in.
Do I do a day dedicated to all the oddball body parts? Neck work, grip and ankle stretch stuff.
Or maybe do them a couple times a week before regular workouts.
Push with some extra mobility stuff
Pull with some neck stuff
Legs with grip work?
Just looking for ideas.
Todays bodyweight is 195 lbs, I have a weeks worth of the initial bottle of thermoamp and 3.5 weeks worth left in total
cheftepesh1
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See a little rest helps a lot.
jtmass
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I am back, bit€hesss.. hahaha
Smont
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More then I thought, 11ish weeks, 78 days.I am back, bit€hesss.. hahaha
So much to catch up. How many weeks until fight?
Which is nice because I don't feel as rushed to drop weight and I need a ton of conditioning work still.
I almost feel like calories in calories out isint real right now lol. I'm restricting cals and doing double training sessions and the weight is barely going down. But overall strength and performance has been high for the most part so I shouldn't complain too much.
There is a big saying I didn't take into consideration and that is when my maintenance calories were a little over 3000 I was working 6 days a week, well I've been working part-time lately and I'm not getting nearly as many steps in per day and that's probably where the difference lies
jtmass
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I agree. CICO sometimes slaps you back in the face and just stops working. So, dropping a bit of calories is next?
Smont
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Slightly, going to try to increase daily activity first, gonna add a 10min walk every day and then a 10min boxing drill before bed. I was supposed to start those night drills on footwork and combinations but I never really did.
thebigt
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in all fairness you have not been on what most would consider the usual cut either-eh?
Smont
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In fairness to what? I've reduced my calories from slightly over 3000 down to 2500 while lifting 3-4 days a week and boxing 5 days a week.in all fairness you have not been on what most would consider the usual cut either-eh?
This is supposed to be a non stimulant fat burner correct?
What says burning fat more then your body composition changing while losing 6 lbs over 3 weeks.
thebigt
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LeanEngineer
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I agree. 2lbs is a lot if you're wanting to maintain the muscle at the same time.
Smont
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I fully expect to lose muscle during this whole process but mainly I was just trying to make the point that even tho I didn't meet my own goal in weight lost per week I'm definitely in a caloric defect and loosing weight at what many would consider the upper limit if your goal is only to loose fat and not muscle.
The total amount of weight I need to loose is probably going to make me loose muscle tho. And that might be a good thing temporarily
cheftepesh1
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This is well said. You always have to calculate in some differential in what is expected verses what happens. Things can come up and if you don’t plan for that small difference, you could be thrown off track.
cheftepesh1
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This is well said. You always have to calculate in some differential in what is expected verses what happens. Things can come up and if you don’t plan for that small difference, you could be thrown off track.
Smont
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Ok fellas, I took 2 days off, felt super lazy this morning but I dragged myself to the gym on a empty stomach with some intra workout mix of 10g eaa, 5g creatine and whatever this crap is lol. My brother always buys it and never finished it and honestly I just love the flavor, but it's got a hefty dose of vd3 and some semi benificial ingredients so I threw a scoop in. Since this is a sponsored log I don't think the name of the product is important, it's nothing special anyways. But it was free and taste like a fukin snowcone lolInvalid Link Removed
So I got a decent workout in, strength was right where I left off and I beat the log book on 3 exercises for reps so I would say I'm gtg.
Followed that up with 4oz chicken breast, 2 whole eggs, 1/2 cup green peas, salt and garlic.
2 tbsp ketchup and a coffee with half and half.
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On top of that, I did a pill count and between what's left in the bottle and the partial bottle I was given I can do 21 more days with the last 10 days at 3 caps a day. So I think that's my game plan to wrap this up. 3 more weeks, loosing another 2lb per week will put me back at my original target weight (but obviously it's taking 2 weeks longer then I initially planned on my end.)
That's where I will put up my final review and end the log.
For anyone that's interested, after I finish this log I actually plan on buying 2 more bottles of thermoamp to finish out my cut leading up to the fight. But I will be adding some more things I to the mix that are more for performance purposes. I just wanted to keep that seperate. I can either start another log at that point or continue here. Il leave that up to the reps
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So three weeks left and I plan on getting a lot more detailed as I finish this up.
So far so good
So I got a decent workout in, strength was right where I left off and I beat the log book on 3 exercises for reps so I would say I'm gtg.
Followed that up with 4oz chicken breast, 2 whole eggs, 1/2 cup green peas, salt and garlic.
2 tbsp ketchup and a coffee with half and half.
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On top of that, I did a pill count and between what's left in the bottle and the partial bottle I was given I can do 21 more days with the last 10 days at 3 caps a day. So I think that's my game plan to wrap this up. 3 more weeks, loosing another 2lb per week will put me back at my original target weight (but obviously it's taking 2 weeks longer then I initially planned on my end.)
That's where I will put up my final review and end the log.
For anyone that's interested, after I finish this log I actually plan on buying 2 more bottles of thermoamp to finish out my cut leading up to the fight. But I will be adding some more things I to the mix that are more for performance purposes. I just wanted to keep that seperate. I can either start another log at that point or continue here. Il leave that up to the reps
.So three weeks left and I plan on getting a lot more detailed as I finish this up.
So far so good
Smont
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I don't think I want to get under 10% by much because I need my strength and energy fairly high. I'm probably around 14% right now @195.6lbs and performance/energy is very high most days. So if my math is correct, I will weight approximately 187lbs at 10% bf. Then the question would be do I cut further? Or do I maintain that and suck a little water weight the last few days before the fight?
Still a lot of time to decide. But one thing for sure is if I diet down to 178 while maintaining muscle I'm going to be very low bf and probably feel too shitty to fight.
Smont
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Todays macros
173 pro, 138 carb, 86fat = 2082 cal
Sooooo, I'm slightly under my pro, carb and cal for the day. But honestly, I'm not hungry right now. I got a 250 cal protein bar that is about exactly what my missing macros are. Il keep it by the bed in case I wake up hungry in the middle of the night.
173 pro, 138 carb, 86fat = 2082 cal
Sooooo, I'm slightly under my pro, carb and cal for the day. But honestly, I'm not hungry right now. I got a 250 cal protein bar that is about exactly what my missing macros are. Il keep it by the bed in case I wake up hungry in the middle of the night.
Smont
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Got a somewhat ok workout today, gym was packed so I was limited to what I could do.
Training fasted again with some intra supplements.
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If anyone wonders why I keep training fasted it's for mental purposes, I feel like once my strength takes a bit I can start training with a few meals in me and get a boost in strength.
No science here, just me overthinking things lol.
I'm heading home, I got asked to work security for a event at a bar from 3-9 so I'm only going to probably be able to get 2 meals in today.
Gonna go slam 1000ish calories post workout meal and after work il finish my calories for the day.
Not ideal but I need the money
Training fasted again with some intra supplements.
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If anyone wonders why I keep training fasted it's for mental purposes, I feel like once my strength takes a bit I can start training with a few meals in me and get a boost in strength.
No science here, just me overthinking things lol.
I'm heading home, I got asked to work security for a event at a bar from 3-9 so I'm only going to probably be able to get 2 meals in today.
Gonna go slam 1000ish calories post workout meal and after work il finish my calories for the day.
Not ideal but I need the money
LeanEngineer
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Looks like a meal of champions right there! A lot of protein with the chicken and greek yogurt!
Smont
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So I almost forgot about this, but a week or 2 ago I was talking about getting those weird cramps in my calves for a couple days, well they dissapeared as fast as they came and I never really even noticed they stopped. I had increased water, salt and potassium for like 2-3 days as they dissapeared but honestly, I think it was just a random happening. Not sure what caused it and maybe what I did made it go away but maybe not as I haven't continued to take any specific precautions and the issue is long gone. So 
. But at one point I wanted to draw a connection between thermoamp ingredients and the cramping but seeing how it came and went so fast I'm ruling out those possibilities. If it was a ingredient in the supplement I would have to assume the issue would be hanging around still.
Just wanted to clear the air on that and let it be known I was not blaming the product, I was just pinpointing it as a possible variable in the situation.
. But at one point I wanted to draw a connection between thermoamp ingredients and the cramping but seeing how it came and went so fast I'm ruling out those possibilities. If it was a ingredient in the supplement I would have to assume the issue would be hanging around still. Just wanted to clear the air on that and let it be known I was not blaming the product, I was just pinpointing it as a possible variable in the situation.
Smont
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Very weird.
LeanEngineer
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Definitely weird but glad it went away. Cramps are the worst.
Smont
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On another note I forgot to mention I was down another lb. I hope no1 minds but I'd like to reserve updates on bodyweight and progress pictures till closer to the end. I just like to see a dramatic difference lol, when things are changing little by little weak by week it's not super noticeable. The difference between week 1 and 2 we're not noticeable but the difference between 1 and 3 are fairly noticeable, the difference between day one and today are fairly noticeable.
But if I update once a week for the next 3 weeks it's not going to look that different.
As far as today goes. I hit the boxing gym and did a bunch of random cardio and heavy bag stuff. I've been noticing I'm getting that abs/rib pain. Anyone who's ever tried to go for a long run when they're not in shape to run we'll know what I'm talking about lol. I think I need to get on the abs training.
Gonna start doing a different abs exercise every day. Apparently I got good core strength but bad core endurance? Didn't know that was possible but that's what I'm being told
But if I update once a week for the next 3 weeks it's not going to look that different.
As far as today goes. I hit the boxing gym and did a bunch of random cardio and heavy bag stuff. I've been noticing I'm getting that abs/rib pain. Anyone who's ever tried to go for a long run when they're not in shape to run we'll know what I'm talking about lol. I think I need to get on the abs training.
Gonna start doing a different abs exercise every day. Apparently I got good core strength but bad core endurance? Didn't know that was possible but that's what I'm being told
Hyde
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Smont
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Is gonna get to the point soon where I'm just doing the big 3 or 4 and a few accessories.Invalid Link Removed
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gphagan1
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I know how you feel. I have had to do the random training before, no set program or routine, because of different injuries, but was still able to progress and stay in shape and fairly balanced considering. I know that a lot of your training and changes within your routine is because of boxing, but as long as you’re keeping your load and volume good there will still be progress, whether strength, body, or athletic performance. Always pushing forward.
cheftepesh1
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I know how you feel. I have had to do the random training before, no set program or routine, because of different injuries, but was still able to progress and stay in shape and fairly balanced considering. I know that a lot of your training and changes within your routine is because of boxing, but as long as you’re keeping your load and volume good there will still be progress, whether strength, body, or athletic performance. Always pushing forward.
The goal is always to move forward. Progress is still progress even if small at times.
cheftepesh1
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I’ve enjoyed how your logging. Especially the good pics.
gphagan1
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Can you tell any difference in this cut with ThermoAmp being added versus other cuts you’ve done? I realize all cuts are different, and each come with their own unique challenges, but any positives or negatives you notice? Like earlier you thought you were noticing a recomp affect, which I know you need to drop weight, but that’s a major positive for most.
LeanEngineer
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Agreed! I love logs where there are pics of the meals consummed. With the pics it speaks to portions better than documenting the actual oz or serving size for me at least.
Smont
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I'm not stepping on the scale or taking any more pictures for these last 2 weeks.
This was this morning at 6am after my coffee. Still 196lbs, but......
My waist is down more then 1/2in from day 1!
So that's why I kept saying I feel like recomp is happening.
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Here's my problem.
Obviously I have a little lower ab fat still and you can't see in the picture but my lower body has some inner thigh fat.
Other then those 2 spots I'm fairly lean. Not bodybuilding lean, but lean enough that I don't think I have another 18lbs on me to loose comfortably. What I'm getting at is, if I was trying to get bodybuilding shredded then only bodyfat and appearance would matter. But in my case performance is way more important then appearance. So I don't know if losing almost 20 more lbs from where I'm at now is doable while being able to train for a fight.
This is why I think I need to float around 188-190 and then just suck weight the final week. That way I can spend all the weeks leading up to the match at a comfortable and healthy body fat percentage to be able to train optimally.
I'm already too old and too broken for fighting as it is so I don't need any extra disadvantages
This was this morning at 6am after my coffee. Still 196lbs, but......
My waist is down more then 1/2in from day 1!
So that's why I kept saying I feel like recomp is happening.
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Here's my problem.
Obviously I have a little lower ab fat still and you can't see in the picture but my lower body has some inner thigh fat.
Other then those 2 spots I'm fairly lean. Not bodybuilding lean, but lean enough that I don't think I have another 18lbs on me to loose comfortably. What I'm getting at is, if I was trying to get bodybuilding shredded then only bodyfat and appearance would matter. But in my case performance is way more important then appearance. So I don't know if losing almost 20 more lbs from where I'm at now is doable while being able to train for a fight.
This is why I think I need to float around 188-190 and then just suck weight the final week. That way I can spend all the weeks leading up to the match at a comfortable and healthy body fat percentage to be able to train optimally.
I'm already too old and too broken for fighting as it is so I don't need any extra disadvantages