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Grunt7684

Grunt7684

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I haven't been around much at all, few of you probably ever even heard of me, too...

Anyway, I discovered I am poisoned with extreme levels of mercury, aluminum, lead, cadmium and arsenic.

So no, I haven't been training. But yeah, be careful with this stuff, get tested especially if you are going to be sporting high testosterone levels.

Edit: wait, this is the newer account, never could get back into the old one it seems. Sigh.
 
I’m sorry to hear this brother. What compounds were your go-to’s if you don’t mind me asking and at what dose/length?
 
Kronic said:
sorry to hear about this. what caused it? do you work with hazardous waste?
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That is my question. He made it seem as if the cause was linked to AAS by saying to be careful with this stuff. It would be the first time I have heard of this and so many different elements, cadmium and lead I see going hand in hand, but arsenic? Mercury could be an odd one too. I highly doubt it’s from catfish at this point and with all these other factors. Maybe Mercury inhalation? Old clockmakers used to get poisoned that way. It’s like a plethora of different things.
 
Dietz1873 said:
That is my question. He made it seem as if the cause was linked to AAS by saying to be careful with this stuff. It would be the first time I have heard of this and so many different elements, cadmium and lead I see going hand in hand, but arsenic? Mercury could be an odd one too. I highly doubt it’s from catfish at this point and with all these other factors. Maybe Mercury inhalation? Old clockmakers used to get poisoned that way. It’s like a plethora of different things.
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I know someone who worked at nuclear plants that got something similar from chemical exposure
 
Dietz1873 said:
That is my question. He made it seem as if the cause was linked to AAS by saying to be careful with this stuff. It would be the first time I have heard of this and so many different elements, cadmium and lead I see going hand in hand, but arsenic? Mercury could be an odd one too. I highly doubt it’s from catfish at this point and with all these other factors. Maybe Mercury inhalation? Old clockmakers used to get poisoned that way. It’s like a plethora of different things.
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I know someone who worked at nuclear plants that got something similar from chemical exposure
 
Grunt7684 said:
I haven't been around much at all, few of you probably ever even heard of me, too...

Anyway, I discovered I am poisoned with extreme levels of mercury, aluminum, lead, cadmium and arsenic.

So no, I haven't been training. But yeah, be careful with this stuff, get tested especially if you are going to be sporting high testosterone levels.

Edit: wait, this is the newer account, never could get back into the old one it seems. Sigh.
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Do what now?
 
Dietz1873 said:
That’s interesting but tragic. It was a plethora of this many things as well?
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I'm not sure the full extent of his condition, but I know his blood is messed up for life and he's doing healing peptides to try to feel better
 
Kronic said:
I'm not sure the full extent of his condition, but I know his blood is messed up for life and he's doing healing peptides to try to feel better
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Idk what peptides he'd be using to make himself feel better... Anything GH related may cause growths with whatever else he may have floating around there. And anything experimental could Boston Loyd him. But if your dying anyways, might as well
 
FloridaMan said:
Idk what peptides he'd be using to make himself feel better... Anything GH related may cause growths with whatever else he may have floating around there. And anything experimental could Boston Loyd him. But if your dying anyways, might as well
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bpc-157 is an amazing pain killer
 
Kronic said:
bpc-157 is an amazing pain killer
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In the literal sense no lol I've used it many times and pain killer is the last thing I would describe it as... There is nothing in any literature even suggesting it acting as one

Injury healer though, yeah, it's pretty good so long as you get it from a reliable source. Helped my back, my sciatic nerve, my pec, and my shoulder at various points lol

ALSO it's great orally for the gut
 
FloridaMan said:
In the literal sense no lol I've used it many times and pain killer is the last thing I would describe it as... There is nothing in any literature even suggesting it acting as one

Injury healer though, yeah, it's pretty good so long as you get it from a reliable source. Helped my back, my sciatic nerve, my pec, and my shoulder at various points lol

ALSO it's great orally for the gut
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huh well when I inject it in my feet or forearm, the pain goes away. are you doing local injections?
 
Kronic said:
sorry to hear about this. what caused it? do you work with hazardous waste?
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No. I'll make short posts in answer to your questions, and then, if I can find the strength to do so, I'll combine everything into a well-edited "my story" with all the good bits in there that are relevant for bodybuilders. There are many.

My grandfather used to work making boots for the army back in WW2 and Korea, maybe vietnam, but that's when he got sick. His weight ballooned out of nowhere and he was unable to do anything, pretty suddenly. He also developed type 2 diabetes at the same time. We assumed there was a genetic predisposition in our ancestry. He sired only daughters though, and none of them seemed to possess this unfortunate DNA trait.

However, his daughters had almost only males, and we were all told to be careful that we don't encounter the same fate as grandpa. Well... We did. Myself and a number of my cousins all underwent the same fate, even with the warnings and our dedication to being as healthy and fit as possible. We were a family of athletes specifically because of this. Some info on genetic particulars of heavy metal metabolism and elimination: Invalid Link Removed

So it seems this genetic trait from granpa was in fact poor ability to eliminate mercury. One particular aspect of mercury toxicity is that it directly hampers elimination of toxic elements, so it's a toxicity that feeds on itself.

One time, back when I was a portfolio manager, making good money with my neurons... I'm in the gym, and in the middle of my set, grinding my teeth, something broke off and I swallowed it. Turns out it was an amalgam filling. In the acid of my stomach. I knew this was bad. So I went to the dentist and to ensure it wouldn't happen again, I asked that they remove all my amalgams and replace everything with white composites. I did not know, and the dentist did not tell me that this would poison me gravely. 8 amalgams were removed and I got poisoned. It broke me inside, to the point where I had lost my gift for raking in the millions in the financial markets.

That's when I turned to bodybuilding in a more serious way. I started advising and coaching athletes. I even went to Australia in 2007 on a client's dime to train him on site. For the 3 weeks I did as Australians do, living on the ocean, that is: ate a lot of fish. A lot of sushi made with mercury-tainted Tuna. When I came back is when stuff started really breaking down for me.
 
Dietz1873 said:
That is my question. He made it seem as if the cause was linked to AAS by saying to be careful with this stuff. It would be the first time I have heard of this and so many different elements, cadmium and lead I see going hand in hand, but arsenic? Mercury could be an odd one too. I highly doubt it’s from catfish at this point and with all these other factors. Maybe Mercury inhalation? Old clockmakers used to get poisoned that way. It’s like a plethora of different things.
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Random link on the powerful relationship between testosterone and mercury toxicity:
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It also reduces natural testosterone:
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There are many others, please forgive what looks like low-effort posting. I am very unwell.
 
So basically guys, WATCH OUT FOR MERCURY. You may not have significant exposure, or you may have some. And you may have genetic mutations like mine. If testosterone gives you tons of side effects, as it did me, then maybe you are already mercury toxic. It's better to be safe than the husk of a man that I have become.
 
Kronic said:
huh well when I inject it in my feet or forearm, the pain goes away. are you doing local injections?
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Well, that could be it's antiinflammatory properties working. But I have never had localized pain relief after injection, only after a week or so of injections.

I'm not the best responder to AAS or peptides compared to others though, so my bodies response may just not be as good as yours
 
Grunt7684 said:
My main occupation is staying alive, with a hobby of trying to get better.
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Just read your other post of there. That sucks my dude... I'm pretty sure there are treatments to remove mercury from the body, but whatever damage has been done is permanent if it's been too long in the system.

Thats the unfortunate part of "live and learn", you gotta live after you learn.
 
FloridaMan said:
Well, that could be it's antiinflammatory properties working. But I have never had localized pain relief after injection, only after a week or so of injections.

I'm not the best responder to AAS or peptides compared to others though, so my bodies response may just not be as good as yours
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ya it's super noticable for me. I even get tingling sensations in damaged areas sometimes. my first time doing bpc-157 gave me a lot of euphoria and that was just a belly injection
 
FloridaMan said:
Just read your other post of there. That sucks my dude... I'm pretty sure there are treatments to remove mercury from the body, but whatever damage has been done is permanent if it's been too long in the system.

Thats the unfortunate part of "live and learn", you gotta live after you learn.
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There is one possible experimental treatment that doesn't do more damage than the mercury causes. Slightly poisoned people can do the others and eventually get much better, but for massive poisonings like mine, the only potential solution is quite experimental.

Between that and the multiple cancers caused by these poisons, I have my plate full.
 
FloridaMan said:
Just read your other post of there. That sucks my dude... I'm pretty sure there are treatments to remove mercury from the body, but whatever damage has been done is permanent if it's been too long in the system.

Thats the unfortunate part of "live and learn", you gotta live after you learn.
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Also, this is the only reason I'm posting on here: So that others may learn from these little known facts:
1. Some people are genetically poor eliminators of toxic elements
2. EVERYBODY is exposed to toxic elements
3. Testosterone greatly boosts the toxicity of mercury, which also blocks elimination of toxic elements

And from these 3 facts, the take away is that if you get side effects from testosterone, you should thoroughly investigate potential toxic metal poisoning, or risk your life. Or worse.
 
Many an athlete have died from the consequences of high testosterone and toxic metals such as mercury. I am pretty sure Charles Poliquin died from this, and Ajdos as well, to name only these. Maybe even Dan Duchaine perished becuase of this.
 
Grunt7684 said:
I fear my message is falling on deaf ears.
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It is possible the reason for that is that toxic metal poisoning is very rare. Coupled with your rare genetic condition makes it even more rare.

While your situation is unfortunate, and your warnings are sound. It's not really a concern to a vast majority of the population
 
Kronic said:
i think his concern is valid, but maybe unproductive. which Mercury test is best?
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My grandfather collected thermometers his entire, he was obsessed with them and radio/transmitors. I used to break them open on tile floors and play with it all the time, everyone in my family did too. This is a sad unfortunate story by OP. It reminds me of the parents that blame steroids for their kids or young adult children getting cancer. Yes it's very sad but it was going to happen either way I truly believe. I know everyone doesn't agree with that but I firmly do.
 
Well there is a technology that is said to perform spectrophotometry on living tissue (the skin), which can read the actual levels of various elements, both nutrients and toxins. I've had it performed, it was cheap and quick, and seemed extremely accurate. Of course this is the infamous n=1 study. The test is called Oligoscan.

Still, it's something every AAS user should do to make sure they're not wrecking their health due to mercury. And mercury toxicity is NOT RARE AT ALL, it is just rarely DIAGNOSED AS SUCH. Huge difference.

AAS are relatively safe if you know what you are doing and do proper PCT after the cycle. If you know who I am, you know I know my **** very well indeed. But that one tidbit, that mercury could destroy you if you have high testosterone, that I didn't know. So this is me offering you the info that this can come bite you in the ass if you don't take THAT precaution on top of everything else.
 
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