BeardedBreast
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Have a ton of Toniiq products laying around.
How would you take Alpha GPC?
How would you take Alpha GPC?
Alpha GPC - Do take it and how are you dosing it
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xR1pp3Rx
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i wonder how much was in the old hemogex from vpx. im guessing right around that amount.
delsolrob
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I doubt it. Their entire blend was 1701mg - containing PS, Alpha GPC, Niacin, Arginine, and a bunch of other stuff.
Just one serving of endoamp contains more than 1700mg and it's just alpha gpc and PS...additionally, we used the patented and higher yield concentrations
Afi140
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This. Good stuff and I really like 300mg pre.
sns8778
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When you say 300 mg., are you meaning 300 mg. total/150 mg. active or 600 mg. total/300 mg. active?
I'm just curious bc we had considered making one but its finding the right dosage to offer.
cheftepesh1
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This worked well for me when used first thing in the AM. My workouts were usually AM as well.
BeardedBreast
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I'm taking 600 pre-workout and 600 before bed
sns8778
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600 active or 600 total?
Just curious.
Not so much here, but in reading other places some people talk about it making them tired if they take too much so I've been trying to determine what dose we want to go with if we do one.
sns8778
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This ones been a hard one to figure out the dose we want to use.
I've been trying to decide between:
- 300 mg. per cap/150 mg. active
- 600 mg. per cap/300 mg. active
- Or doing an Alpha GPCA + Citicoline blend
BeardedBreast
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Toniiq doesn't state, of course
aaronuconn
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I think Toniiq sells a 99%.
“The Most Active Alpha GPC Available - Toniiq Alpha GPC brings the most potent levels of cognitive health support on the market. Our Alpha-GPC contains an unprecedented purity level of 99%+ (most alpha gpc products contain less than 50%). Higher purity means a greater bioavailability of the active compounds that give Alpha-GPC its neurological health-supporting properties”
sns8778
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I'm thinking that we may wind up doing an Alpha-GPC and also an Alpha-GPC/Citicoline combo product.
I also think I've changed gears completely and am just going to go with an Alpha GPC 98% and do 300 mg. active per cap. I had wanted to try to use Alpha Size bc we normally try to use branded ingredients when it makes sense, but in this case, it may not make sense from a cost standpoint.
If we did an Alpha GPC/Citicoline combo product, what dose would you like to see? I was thinking 250/250 but I'm worried that may be too strong for some people.
sns8778
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Thank you for sharing. I'm leaning towards a 98% @ 300 mg. per cap.
That could be good in a way (reacting strongly to GABA) if timed right.
sns8778
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I was thinking either 250/250 or 300/250 (just bc psychologically people are so used to seeing Alpha GPC at 300 mg.
And I probably would make that be a 2 capsule dose so that people could take less if they wanted - like 150/125 or 125/125 per cap bc I absolutely agree with what you said, less can be more with nootropics sometimes.
thebigt
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me too...endoamp is a staple for me...my family buys it for me as christmas/birthday/fathers day presents, they all know how much i like it.
i use it as a brain booster-nootropic, the rest is just bonus!!!
aaronuconn
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I’ve definitely of late found less is more with choline. I like the idea of 150/125 per cap.
sns8778
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It does to me bc I really like DMAE but some people aren't as big of fans of it as me. I'd be curious to hear other peoples opinions.
aaronuconn
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Would Centrophenoxine be the better choice? Less dosage needed, and it’s essentially a superior DMAE
sns8778
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Yes and no. Yes in the sense that its better; but no in the sense that this product will already be so expensive that adding Centrophenoxine to it would make it even moreso. Plus, there are some people that are scared of Centrophenoxine because of the warnings about not taking it sublingually. And DMAE is a lot more well known.
thebigt
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endoamp max is
serin aid 70% complex-1.1gm
alphasize 50%-600mg
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sns8778
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For a simple ingredient Alpha GPC, we would do 300 mg. per cap @ 98%. This way a person could take 1 to 2 caps, depending on their individual needs.
For an Alpha GPC & Citicoline mix, we were talking about doing 150 mg. Alpha GPC + 125 mg. Citicoline per capsule. Being that it has both forms, some people wouldn't want to go higher than that.
justeat
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Sorry to resurrect this but it seems like the best place. I’m currently adding in 600mg agpc preworkout.
Are the main benefits available after just one dose? Or does it require building up in the system such that I should be taking it ED? Also, is there any added benefit to taking it ED other then supposed GH increases?
Id like to leave it just as a pwo if possible.
Are the main benefits available after just one dose? Or does it require building up in the system such that I should be taking it ED? Also, is there any added benefit to taking it ED other then supposed GH increases?
Id like to leave it just as a pwo if possible.
sns8778
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Short answer - Alpha GPC is best used daily for best results.
But here are some more details........
Alpha GPC is a form of choline that increases the release of acetylcholine and the best research on it is for increasing learning and memory. These results are seen with everyday use for longer durations of time.
Alpha GPC has been shown in some studies to help with endurance but I would not use it just for that. If you're looking for increases in muscular endurance, I think that Epi-Plex (600 mg. Epicatechin daily) dramatically outperforms it. And if you're looking for cardiovascular endurance, PEAK02 dramatically outperforms it. PEAK02 has multiple clinical studies on VO2 Max including one done at UNC Chapel Hill which I consider very impressive bc of the athletic and medical reputation of the university.
Alpha GPC has been shown to have some potential for increases in gh production but short term HGH production isn't going to accomplish much. It doesn't hurt, but its not a reason to use it. And to use it for this purpose, you would want to daily.
Alpha GPC helps some people with a boost in mental clarity from one dose but most people find that they have to use it continuously for best results.
For me personally, I wouldn't buy it separate just to use it in a pre-workout. If it happened to be in there, that would be fine but for me I would either use it daily or wouldn't bother. BUT that would be because I would be using it for many of the other
If you're wanting products that have Alpha GPC already in them to use pre-workout, here are some that come to mind:
- Vicious Labs Daft Pump - great stimulant free pre-workout that is good for pumps and is a pretty unique pre-workout.
- SNS Focus XT - Focus XT is designed to be the ultimate nootropic base product and is versatile in that it can be used for a variety of purposes - pre-workout, studying, gaming, in class, on the job, etc. In addition to just Alpha GPC it has pretty much the perfect base of other nootropic ingredients with it. Focus XT is available in a caffeine and caffeine free option and can be taken a long with other pre-workouts.
If you're looking for a product that increases mental focus, clarity, concentration, and motivation pre-workout and helps get your mind off the stresses of everyday life to better Focus on the workout, Focus XT is the way to go imo.
Daft Pump:
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Focus XT:
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Focus XT - Caffeine Free:
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I hope this info helps.
justeat
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Thank you for the info definitely good to know and answers my question. Unfortunately I’m way past using any of the prohormone‘s that are out these days, but I’m always looking into new and better formulas for pre-workouts and pump stuff. The first profile you post it’s got a really nice lineup I’ll look into it thank you
sns8778
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I'm glad to help in any way that I can.
And I'm right there with you - the closest I would get to a prohormone now days would be an Epiandrosterone product like Stano-Plex.
And yeah, Daft Pump is a really good product with a unique profile. I'm more of a results first, worry about taste second type of guy but I have to say I love it that Daft Pump tastes great as well.
If you like nootropics, I think you'd really like Focus XT as well. It's a great product and can be used for a lot of purposes.