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[thebigt]

T.... while Fauci has clearly fucked up the handling of this pandemic, saying his only claim to fame is being a bureaucrat is straight up ignorant. Like Malone, no one questioned Fauci's credentials until Covid. They guy has completely mishandled this pandemic, but his contributions to to research regarding the human immune response can not be discredited

i give him credit for being a bureaucratic administrator but comparing fauci' scientific accomplishments next to those of Dr Malones i find he leaves fauci in the dust....and to be honest if it comes out that fauci was responsible for funding to the wuhan facility and it becomes fact that the wuhan facility is responsible for the virus fauci will have a lot to answer for, IMO!!!!

did you see where Dr Malone was responsible for Mnra research-so even regardless of comparing him to fauci, his thoughts on the covid vaccines are thought to be taken seriously, agreed?


sorry i am not in a very good mood right now thinking of all those people who have died alone with out loved ones by their side---and all the people who weren't allowed to be with loved ones in their final moments or even in their final weeks---this pisses me the FUCKING hell off....i would go crazy if they told me i couldn't see a loved one hospitalized by coved and then they tell me my loved one has died alone--bet your ass i would be fucking pissed off.

 

[rob112]

T.... while Fauci has clearly fucked up the handling of this pandemic, saying his only claim to fame is being a bureaucrat is straight up ignorant. Like Malone, no one questioned Fauci's credentials until Covid. They guy has completely mishandled this pandemic, but his contributions to to research regarding the human immune response can not be discredited

He was highly questioned for his handling of Aids decades ago. You can find video of him doing the same bullshit fear mongering then saying things like kids who live a person with HIV may become infected.

I mean maybe you know of stuff he did that was really good, but I just want to point out he has been questioned for decades.

 

[rob112]

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[mechka_grizli]

He was highly questioned for his handling of Aids decades ago. You can find video of him doing the same bullshit fear mongering then saying things like kids who live a person with HIV may become infected.

I mean maybe you know of stuff he did that was really good, but I just want to point out he has been questioned for decades.

Yes he said that, but given the understanding of HIV at the time, it was a mistake made by many. He later corrected that mistake and several leaders in the gay community who originally "hated" him, later changed their opinions of him after noting his contributions to HIV research.

Also from 1983 to 2002, Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among 3 million authors in all disciplines in the world who published articles in scientific journals

Hate him all you want, but the man has made invaluable contributions to medical research

 

[Ricky10]

Do you not think the people making billions of dollars have an agenda?

I mean I’m not gonna write a book here but we have been lied to tons of times by the authorities at this time and people still trust them. Dr. Malone was the first to being yo concerns with women reproductive systems and now, like 10 months later, NPR even admits it.

Who would you say is the best trustworthy no bias source during all of this? I honestly don’t know. Just certainly is not people caught wrong or lying constantly with tons to gain.

How much have you looked into his credentials?

The profits of the pharmaceutical industry and other beneficiaries of the vaccine rollout are what they are. Might that be an agenda in itself? I’m certainly not going to say that isn’t potentially playing a role, but just because something is highly profitable doesn’t necessarily mean it is or isn’t beneficial.

As far as Dr Malone, I haven’t spent a great deal of time researching his credentials but they don’t really matter to me. However, I obviously know why he feels that his thoughts will be highly regarded by some due to being a pioneer of mRNA vaccines. It’s kind of like flashing a bright shiny object in front of an audience that may be highly impressionable. The article in my prior post that criticizes Dr Malone is biased in its own right, but I posted it as there are always two sides to the story.

Do I think Fauci is any better than Dr Malone? Certainly not, but that is more so because I think he was implicit in the development of the virus itself and has essentially been a waste of time throughout the pandemic. So who do I trust? Mostly myself and my own judgement, and that is why I took the Pfizer vaccine and subsequently the booster to begin with. I trust my own experiences, what I witness with my vaccinated colleagues, and witness with vaccinated and unvaccinated patients. I also trust those that don’t call themselves experts or pretend they have all the answers.

Didn’t Dr Malone take the Moderna vaccine himself? Aside from that, he seems to make some claims that are clearly off base. Here’s one that couldn’t be further from the truth…

Dr. Robert Malone: Easier for Delta to Kill ‘Vaccinated’ than Unvaccinated

By J.D. Rucker • Aug. 18, 2021 thelibertydaily.com EXCERPT: “Those who take the Covid-19 “vaccines” are MORE susceptible to the Delta Variant and have a HIGHER risk of severe disease or even …

thedeadgenetoday.wordpress.com

Despite being a pioneer of mRNA vaccines, I think it’s quite silly to consider his opinions to be all that much more credible than others when we are dealing with a novel virus amongst a novel vaccine. Both of which are a firsts to be circulating throughout the population. The biggest problem I have is that those who are clearly at high risk for serious COVID illness have obviously been influenced by people like this to make the wrong choices for themselves by anyone’s realistic standards.

I will say that I agree with Dr Malone in the plausibility that Omicron could be our saving grace. At least I hope this still turns out to be the case as we all do. I also agree with his thoughts in regard to vaccinating young children, as that is something I don’t see as being particularly necessary up to this point.

 

[thebigt]

Yes he said that, but given the understanding of HIV at the time, it was a mistake made by many. He later corrected that mistake and several leaders in the gay community who originally "hated" him, later changed their opinions of him after noting his contributions to HIV research.

Also from 1983 to 2002, Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among 3 million authors in all disciplines in the world who published articles in scientific journals

Hate him all you want, but the man has made invaluable contributions to medical research

thank you, i will hate fauci till the day i die and nothing will change that....


but this has nothing to do with the discarding Dr Malone of which was the original topic of conversation...lets get back on topic-what Dr Malone has to say about vaccines...if you actually listened to the now banned joe rogan interview and you are vaccinated you might just be a little concerned---lets play a game of what if...what if the vaccines do start to cause a unusual amount of heart attacks, bleeding uterus's, cardiovascular diseases, and cause immune systems to be compromised in vaccinated persons but not in unvaccinated persons...is it possible the government would do everything possible to cover this up?

 

[thebigt]

'can i visit a friend who has TB and is in a isolation room in the hospital'

from TUBERCULOOSI.FI...."yes you can, when you keep in touch with your friend it makes isolation easier for him. visitors need to wear respirators when they go into room. make sure you put respirator on right and that it firs snugly on face. ask the staff to help you. small children are USUALLY not allowed to visit. they do not know how to use respirator and might become infected" .

if the excuse is not enough respirators for visitors-why the hell not? this virus is 2 years old.

GOD DAMMIT i am pissed--why did all of these people with covid have to die alone--the medical INDUSTRY will one day be held accountable for this--this is barbaric to have made all of these people have to FACE DEATH ALONE..it did not have to be this way!!!!

i very rarely use GODS name in vain but after looking back on this whole dammed mess i am fucking pissed the fucking hell off--if one of my loved ones had been forced to die alone i hate to think what i might have done if they told me they had died alone without me being there!!!!!!!

according to this a person in the hospital with TB can have visitors but a person who is dying of covid must die alone? what kind of shyt is this...i got pissed off because i was talking to a good friend who said his uncle had been admitted to hospital with covid back in march around the same time my wife and i got covid, he said his uncle and wasn't allowed any visitors-then 7 days later the family was notified that he died...he told me that if it had been his wife or children that were treated this way and forced to die alone that he would have done some things that i won't repeat.....i won't say what i might have done either...

 

[Ricky10]

according to this a person in the hospital with TB can have visitors but a person who is dying of covid must die alone? what kind of shyt is this...i got pissed off because i was talking to a good friend who said his uncle had been admitted to hospital with covid back in march around the same time my wife and i got covid, he said his uncle and wasn't allowed any visitors-then 7 days later the family was notified that he died...he told me that if it had been his wife or children that were treated this way and forced to die alone that he would have done some things that i won't repeat.....i won't say what i might have done either...

At any stage in this pandemic at my hospital, once it was known the COVID patient was not going to survive, family has been able to go in the room and say their goodbyes. Despite that, after 20 days patients are removed from isolation/precautions as they are deemed intransmissible and family is free to come and go as they please. While a majority of severe patients survive beyond 20 days in the hospital, they are likely intubated, sedated, and even paralyzed by that point. So yeah, it’s certainly not a great experience for family either way.

 

[thebigt]

At any stage in this pandemic at my hospital, once it was known the COVID patient was not going to survive, family has been able to go in the room and say their goodbyes. Despite that, after 20 days patients are removed from isolation/precautions as they are deemed intransmissible and family is free to come and go as they please. While a majority of severe patients survive beyond 20 days in the hospital, they are likely intubated, sedated, and even paralyzed by that point. So yeah, it’s certainly not a great experience for family either way.

i am very glad the policy has changed at least where you are...BUT i am sure my friend wasn't lying when he said that back in march of 2021 visitors were NOT allowed to see his uncle and that he died alone--to me this is/was barbaric.

what was your visitor policy for covid positive patients in march of 21?

 

[thebigt]

btw-i took my wife to er back in may and they wouldn't let me past a check point, not only was i not able to go back with her i was told to wait in vehicle....hopefully the fools have came to their senses since then---i wonder how many died alone because of this kind of ignorance?

probably guidelines put out by the covid mastermind himself-fauci!!!

 

[thebigt]

from STAT health july 20, 2021

'covid-19 kept families and caregivers out of hospitals. some doctors think that shouldn't happen again'.

 

[thebigt]

i remember hospitals barring all visitors-no visitors allowed period.

but before covid TB patients were allowed visitors???

 

[Kronic]

Dr Malone had a severe reaction to the moderna vaccine because it was touted to cure long covid and he was recently recovered. cmon this is asinine

 

[rob112]

Yes he said that, but given the understanding of HIV at the time, it was a mistake made by many. He later corrected that mistake and several leaders in the gay community who originally "hated" him, later changed their opinions of him after noting his contributions to HIV research.

Also from 1983 to 2002, Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among 3 million authors in all disciplines in the world who published articles in scientific journals

Hate him all you want, but the man has made invaluable contributions to medical research

I mean he had been criticized much more than that included giving bad treatments to aids patients that many believe killed many, he tested experimental drugs on foster kids 10-15 years ago and some died(I believe I read that one in NPR hard to keep track), maximum pain research on dogs, and let’s not forget he funded, and lied under oath, about his organization going against the Obama administration and continuing gain of function research…which is the most likely culprit to why the whole world is as fucked up as it is right now.

I know he makes bank off a lot of patents he is a part of and maybe he helped produce those drugs but the guy is terrible. His finger prints are all over so much bad ****. Unfortunately he is one of these people that seem like American royalty who the corporate press shills for. Many don’t know about half the **** I just named and never will. Just join the branch covidians and praise lord Fauci.

 

[rob112]

I almost forgot my favorite Fauci moment “when you question me you question science.”

Damn cult leader.

 

[Power-Lift]

I work for a company of 100K people, huge global place. Huge presence in India, China, etc... Guess how many employees we lost to this?? Zero, that's right, and they just love to keep us informed of that like some badge of honor. I know two who have died from the Jab, my friends daughter (age 31) and my cousin (age 52).

So:

RONA deaths w/ folks I know - 0
Jab deaths w/ folks I know - 2

We've been played... CDC starting to admit some things...

 

[thebigt]

I work for a company of 100K people, huge global place. Huge presence in India, China, etc... Guess how many employees we lost to this?? Zero, that's right, and they just love to keep us informed of that like some badge of honor. I know two who have died from the Jab, my friends daughter (age 31) and my cousin (age 52).

So:

RONA deaths w/ folks I know - 0
Jab deaths w/ folks I know - 2

We've been played... CDC starting to admit some things...

the CDC isn't going to admit shyt--after telling us how safe vaccines are and the government forcing vaccines on the population do you really think they would come out and tell people they were wrong---i could see a massive cover-up before they ever fessed up to anything, there is way too much at risk for them....

 

[Dustin07]

Little more anecdote. My entire family has had it. My daughter who is like a young female me also has it like the flu. My wife and two children who are more like her all weren’t really that bad at all and with some headache meds all were able to function fine.

I’m really wondering if there is like a certain genetic make up type of thing that determines how bad covaids are. I can trace this across a lot of my family now. Proves nothing but just thought it was interesting.

Not sure if anyone else noticed anything like this in their families.

i've also seen where blacks and latinos have a rougher time---possibly diet?

na I've 100% been saying this for months. I've many times noticed that the kids and ONE of the parents will often times take covid much better than the OTHER parent, which makes me think genetic for sure.

 

[thebigt]

USA TODAY April 9, 2020
fact check: are coronavirus patients dying alone in hospitals?

OUR RULING: TRUE

 

[Dustin07]

All of the things you mentioned I'm aware of, but what I'm asking is how do we link any of that to covid? I'm not aware of any research that has linked diet to covid. Now if a poor diet makes the side effects of covid worse, that's understandable because I think a lot of it might come down to just being healthy, but the Asian thing still wouldn't have anything to do with diet, didn't the person make a statement about east Asians having a gene that makes them less susceptible, that wouldn't be because of diet I'd imagine.

I don't know much at all about this stuff

'And I'm certainly not trying to say I'm correct, I know there's a link between diet and culture but what I'm asking is do we know how diet effects covid?

i like to think my side effects have been very mild because I'm a lot more healthy then the average person, but at the same time my buddy had covid not too long ago, Hes probably 50lb overweight, he smokes, is a fairly heavy drinker and has a bit of a cocaine problem and he was asymptomatic, the only reason he knew was because his mother got very sick.

so is there things that give us a better chance or is it the luck of the draw?

I honestly don't believe in asymptomatic, I believe in faulty testing.
My dad and friend worked together at the office weds before new years, I was out that day due to weather.
Both got sick in the following days with the exact same symptoms. Buddy tested negative. Then 3 days later tested positive. My dad was no allowed to go to the dr without a test, which would take days. Finally got into urgent care after more than a week and tested negative. Same symptoms, same time, same time together. you have 2 negative tests and 1 positive. Either both were positive or both were negative, IMO. I don't buy asymptomatic positives at all.

T.... while Fauci has clearly fucked up the handling of this pandemic, saying his only claim to fame is being a bureaucrat is straight up ignorant. Like Malone, no one questioned Fauci's credentials until Covid. They guy has completely mishandled this pandemic, but his contributions to to research regarding the human immune response can not be discredited

Yes he said that, but given the understanding of HIV at the time, it was a mistake made by many. He later corrected that mistake and several leaders in the gay community who originally "hated" him, later changed their opinions of him after noting his contributions to HIV research.

Also from 1983 to 2002, Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among 3 million authors in all disciplines in the world who published articles in scientific journals

Hate him all you want, but the man has made invaluable contributions to medical research

Read up on Fauci's aids vax back in the 80s. He strikes me as a "sheldon" type person, maybe like gates. With zero compassion or respect for human life, but perhaps an obsession (in a Frankenstein/evil scientist way) with virology. I don't believe they care at all about the casualties in their experiments. Fauci is responsible for plenty of deaths.

 

[thebigt]

na I've 100% been saying this for months. I've many times noticed that the kids and ONE of the parents will often times take covid much better than the OTHER parent, which makes me think genetic for sure.

i agree that odds are genetic's are responsible for difference in reaction to covid---but in today's world of fast food the diet between one family member to another could vary by quite a bit---even at the one meal of the day where all family members are together many times they will have differences in dietary habits--i know this for a fact having raised 3 kids and now having 4 grandkids.

 

[Ricky10]

I work for a company of 100K people, huge global place. Huge presence in India, China, etc... Guess how many employees we lost to this?? Zero, that's right, and they just love to keep us informed of that like some badge of honor. I know two who have died from the Jab, my friends daughter (age 31) and my cousin (age 52).

So:

RONA deaths w/ folks I know - 0
Jab deaths w/ folks I know - 2

We've been played... CDC starting to admit some things...

Is this company you work for one that has mandated vaccines? If so, it wouldn’t surprise me that there have been zero COVID deaths. Unless of course your employer has a substantial number of employees 80 years old and over. If it’s a badge of honor for them, that must mean they have standardized something proactive on their part.

I’m sorry that you have suffered losses of life within your personal circle, but did these people die from the vaccine, or with the vaccine?

Just keepin it real son, just keepin it real…

 

[thebigt]

Is this company you work for one that has mandated vaccines? If so, it wouldn’t surprise me that there have been zero COVID deaths. Unless of course your employer has a substantial number of employees 80 years old and over. If it’s a badge of honor for them, that must mean they have standardized something proactive on their part.

I’m sorry that you have suffered losses of life within your personal circle, but did these people die from the vaccine, or with the vaccine?

Just keepin it real son, just keepin it real…

did the guy who came in with heart attack die from heart attack or from covid?

 

[thebigt]

looks like novak djokovic is going to play in AO afterall-maybe...his claim was medical exemption for having covid within the last 6 months---this is a win for all of us who have had covid and don't want the vaccine.

go joker!!!

FJB

 

[Ricky10]

looks like novak djokovic is going to play in AO afterall-maybe...his claim was medical exemption for having covid within the last 6 months---this is a win for all of us who have had covid and don't want the vaccine.

go joker!!!

FJB

While I 100% agree that he should have been able to play before the ruling. It sets a bad precedent either way due to the privileges of being a celebrity tennis player. Maybe all this will change post Omicron. Of course this will be variable country to country either way.

It is a good sign, but it doesn‘t do anything as of yet for the rest of the post COVID population that are mere mortals.

 

[thebigt]

While I 100% agree that he should have been able to play before the ruling. It sets a bad precedent either way due to the privileges of being a celebrity tennis player. Maybe all this will change post Omicron. Of course this will be variable country to country either way.

It is a good sign, but it doesn‘t do anything as of yet for the rest of the post COVID population that are mere mortals.

i agree...but it does give awareness to the fact that fauci himself was touting herd immunity a year or so ago...this covid thing has been going on for so long that i lose track of time...but i am happy to see natural immunity getting SOME play on the world's stage.

 

[Ricky10]

did the guy who came in with heart attack die from heart attack or from covid?

Exactly!

Personally, I endorse the fact that acute thrombosis is a significant and indisputable risk of COVID infection, so I tend to heir on the side that such patients who present to the ED with an acute stoke or MI with no history thereof is a direct result of recently testing positive before their critical event. Call me crazy..

Aside from this, dying from COVID or dying with COVID has been a catch phrase among those that don’t take COVID seriously. And/or think COVID death tolls have been falsely inflated.

So bottom line, if one chooses to think that way, it only makes sense to also apply the same premise to patients who died after getting a COVID vaccine…yes? Otherwise, this would clearly be a double standard.

 

[thebigt]

i just got a covid update from VA on visitor policy

hospitalized/inpatient visit-NO VISITORS
hospitalized/inpatient covid visit-NO VISITORS

 

[Dustin07]

well, the COVID death tolls HAVE Been falsely inflated. But how much, we'll never know. Journalists don't chase that info anymore. or it's better hidden than before.

Washington admits error in reporting and lowers COVID-19 death toll

The number of coronavirus deaths in Washington dropped after health officials realized those people didn’t die of COVID-19.

www.king5.com

 

[thebigt]

Exactly!

Personally, I endorse the fact that acute thrombosis is a significant and indisputable risk of COVID infection, so I tend to heir on the side that such patients who present to the ED with an acute stoke or MI with no history thereof is a direct result of recently testing positive before their critical event. Call me crazy..

Aside from this, dying from COVID or dying with COVID has been a catch phrase among those that don’t take COVID seriously. And/or think COVID death tolls have been falsely inflated.

So bottom line, if one chooses to think that way, it only makes sense to also apply the same premise to patients who died after getting a COVID vaccine…yes? Otherwise, this would clearly be a double standard.

so you are saying that anyone who dies within 2 days of getting vaccine should be recorded as vaccine responsible for death?

let me set the record straight--you can believe the covid is real and still not be for or pro-vaccine-saying that everyone who against vaccines doesn't believe the covid is real is bullshyt.

 

[BOSSMAN]

i just got a covid update from VA on visitor policy

hospitalized/inpatient visit-NO VISITORS
hospitalized/inpatient covid visit-NO VISITORS

You don't even want to know about the notice I got in the mail today from my employer . Icing on the cake, I even got a call from my union rep.

 

[thebigt]

You don't even want to know about the notice I got in the mail today from my employer . Icing on the cake, I even got a call from my union rep.

crazy-eh?
it's almost like they are desperate to remove the control group if vaxxed people start getting sick and unvaxxed aren't....imagine if the people who are against vaccines are right and it turns out the government has been forcing a harmful vaccine on people?

i often wonder how people would react if this were true?

 

[Kronic]

anyone know if Bob saggot was vaxed?

 

[thebigt]

anyone know if Bob saggot was vaxed?

how often do you hear it reported that victims of vehicle accidents WERE wearing a seat belt?

you only hear of when they weren't-eh?

 

[Ricky10]

so you are saying that anyone who dies within 2 days of getting vaccine should be recorded as vaccine responsible for death?

No…haha!

I am simply saying that people have long used the phrase dying from COVID or dying with COVID as being a means toward explaining what they view as a misrepresentation of deaths attributed to COVID. I personally think the reasoning of these people is asinine. Especially when they consider a subsequent COVID PNA to have no correlation to their COVID infection. We see these people in the hospital all too frequently. I would hope people would be wiser than that and most people are.

I think it’s only fair to very strongly entertain the notion that a rare number of people may possibly die because of vaccination, while others simply die through other means that are completely unrelated to the vaccines- yet are falsely linked to the vaccinations (mostly by subjective patient/family reports) nonetheless. In other words, VAERS!

 

[thebigt]

No…haha!

I am simply saying that people have long used the phrase dying from COVID or dying with COVID as being a means toward explaining what they view as a misrepresentation of deaths attributed to COVID. I personally think the reasoning of these people is asinine. Especially when they consider a subsequent COVID PNA to have no correlation to their COVID infection. We see these people in the hospital all too frequently. I would hope people would be wiser than that and most people are.

I think it’s only fair to very strongly entertain the notion that a rare number of people may possibly die because of vaccination, while others simply die through other means that are completely unrelated to the vaccines- yet are falsely linked to the vaccinations (mostly by subjective patient/family reports) nonetheless. In other words, VAERS!

i'm having a hard time following your reasoning--you are starting to speak like a politician defending a position or agenda-eh?

i am happy though that your hospital is allowing covid patients to have visitors...unlike the VA hospitals who aren't allowing any visitors even now.

 

[rob112]

Is this company you work for one that has mandated vaccines? If so, it wouldn’t surprise me that there have been zero COVID deaths. Unless of course your employer has a substantial number of employees 80 years old and over. If it’s a badge of honor for them, that must mean they have standardized something proactive on their part.

I’m sorry that you have suffered losses of life within your personal circle, but did these people die from the vaccine, or with the vaccine?

Just keepin it real son, just keepin it real…

Hasn’t Covid been around longer than the vaccine?

 

[rob112]

Is this company you work for one that has mandated vaccines? If so, it wouldn’t surprise me that there have been zero COVID deaths. Unless of course your employer has a substantial number of employees 80 years old and over. If it’s a badge of honor for them, that must mean they have standardized something proactive on their part.

I’m sorry that you have suffered losses of life within your personal circle, but did these people die from the vaccine, or with the vaccine?

Just keepin it real son, just keepin it real…

Hasn’t Covid been around longer than the vaccine?

 

[sammpedd88]

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Damn…just, damn.

 

[sammpedd88]

Yes he said that, but given the understanding of HIV at the time, it was a mistake made by many. He later corrected that mistake and several leaders in the gay community who originally "hated" him, later changed their opinions of him after noting his contributions to HIV research.

Also from 1983 to 2002, Fauci was the 13th most-cited scientist among 3 million authors in all disciplines in the world who published articles in scientific journals

Hate him all you want, but the man has made invaluable contributions to medical research

He sounds like a fear monger.

 

[thebigt]

When this all started my uncle who was a long standing kidney transplant survivor and he started having different complications. I got to visit him and then like a week later shutdowns in NY which is where he lived. None of his family could visit him the rest of his stay. His wife, my aunt, couldn’t even see him until they knew he was going to die. He spent his last months alone.

Fucked up.

i just got a email today from VA saying no visitors allowed at VA hospitals....crazy

 

[THOR 70]

Hasn’t Covid been around longer than the vaccine?

Probably both made around the same time....

 

[thebigt]

I clicked the article and it was filled with all the buzz words of the day. I just can’t take people serious who talk in unison like that. They might even be truthful, but I personally can not take it. Every couple months there is a new slogan or mantra. It’s like a damn cult.

i see a politician say something, then i see someone in media say the same thing then everywhere i look the media are all saying the exact same thing and then you see people on social media saying the exact same fucking thing, 'im like what the hell, this country has become THE LAND OF THE PARROTS

 

[thebigt]

"CDC director admits that up to 40% of reported covid hospitalizations are not actually due to covid"


geez, people have been being called names for saying this for a longtime and now we find out it's been true all along!!!

 

[Ricky10]

Probably both made around the same time....

I certainly find this more than plausible.

i'm having a hard time following your reasoning--you are starting to speak like a politician defending a position or agenda-eh?

That’s OK. In the grand scheme of things the double standard I was trying to emphasize doesn’t really matter.

While I have been pro vaccine up to this point, I certainly have a mind of my own. I just feel it is only fair to be at least equally skeptical of anti vaccine theorists as people are toward those organizations that support vaccination.

Despite decreased confidence in the efficacy of the first generation vaccines against Delta, it should be clear that it was hugely successful in keeping vaccinated people out of the hospital with severe COVID illness/pneumonia. Maybe I’m just delusional though and expect too much from the general public who isn’t able to see the proof with their own eyes. And maybe I would be more vaccine skeptical if I didn't have hands on experience.

Rest assured, if I were finding myself treating just as many or even close to as many critical vaccinated COVID patients as unvaccinated COVID patients, I would be the first one to call that out. I have nothing to gain from reporting that our critical resources are consumed with unvaccinated COVID PNA patients. It’s a reality that we have all wished wasn’t happening for multiple months now.

 

[thebigt]

"CDC director walensky fails to disclose how many deaths were "FROM" covid-19" :data will be forthcoming"


'walensky said she hedged on how many of the covid-19 related deaths in the US were directly due to the virus and how many were individuals who died with covid yet had underlying conditions'


where i come from HEDGED is a fancy way of saying LIED.

 

[thebigt]

buck sexton---'the CDC now owns the title for most inept, useless, corrupt 3 letter agency in the federal government, which is a pretty damn impressive achievement'

i'm sure the FBI is eager to retain the title....

 

[thebigt]

cnn's jake tapper--'we're 2 years into this, if someone's in the hospital with a broken leg and they also have asymptomatic covid, that should not be counted as hospitalized with covid, clearly' tapper added.

geez, jake you suddenly grow a brain and go all 'Captain Obvious' on us?

we've been being called covid deniers for saying the same thing, but now that jake tapper says it must be ok now-eh?

 

[rob112]

buck sexton---'the CDC now owns the title for most inept, useless corrupt 3 letter agency in the federal government, which is a pretty damn impressive achievement'

i'm sure the FBI is eager to retain the title....

I’d argue the ATF…but hearing people call government agencies useless is music to my ears.

 

[thebigt]

amber hathaway-'so nice of the CDC director to drop by the sunday news shows and confirm everything that was called a conspiracy theory just weeks ago'.