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ax1 said:
Yes, its needs addressing, but you dont do it by blaming or taking something from people that have absolutely nothing to do with their problems. Thats what fuels division and racism. If anybody wants to tax me because of what someone did in the 1800s they can truly fuq themselves, they will only motivate me to take their shyt and give it to more deserving needing people.
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The civil rights movement was in the last 50 years.
 
Jiigzz said:
The point is is that sometimes prioritizing people or groups of people is done to equalize the playing field as best as possible. If one group starts out ahead, pushing others to that point isn't racist, it's equality.

If I walk in to after hours with a broken finger amd am waiting for 4 hours and someone else walks in bleeding from an artery but is seen straight away, I don't get upset that they were seen first. But people DO get upset first because they believe they are entitled to being seen first regardless of the circumstances of others
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No, the way you prioritize these types of problems is to help people as people, not by specific skin pigment and tans, its all bullshyt. Until people stop obsessing over skin color, your only fueling racism and division. Skin pigment is bullshyt.

What makes people entitles is money, not skin pigment, so people need to go to school, learn a trade, get a job and beg government to stay as far away as possible from their problems and healthcare.
 
Jiigzz said:
The civil rights movement was in the last 50 years.
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The civil rights movement is DEAD. There is no civil rights movement. Everything in the USA these days is make excuses for personal failures and have government come in and cause more problems.
 
ax1 said:
The civil rights movement is DEAD. There is no civil rights movement. Everything in the USA these days is make excuses for personal failures and have government come in and cause more problems.
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Might be dead to you. But have you asked the people actually impacted and involved as to whether they believe they have achieved what they wanted?
 
ax1 said:
No, the way you prioritize these types of problems is to help people as people, not by specific skin pigment and tans, its all bullshyt. Until people stop obsessing over skin color, your only fueling racism and division. Skin pigment is bullshyt.

What makes people entitles is money, not skin pigment, so people need to go to school, learn a trade, get a job and beg government to stay as far away as possible from their problems and healthcare.
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That might be how you try solve it. But unfortunately the world doesn't work that way.

When I was younger I dressed up as the token black guy from movies. It involved a lot of make up and costume and looked pretty convincing. In that day alone i got called the N word numerous times and had people literally cross the road or watch me closely as I just went about my business.

Sorry to say, but you saying racism doesn't exist doesn't stop it existing.
 
Jiigzz said:
Might be dead to you. But have you asked the people actually impacted and involved as to whether they believe they have achieved what they wanted?
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Im a direct vicim of racism. English was my 2nd language. I was beat up because I was 'the whitest kid in school" I was called a pizza slinger, dumb guinnie, WOP, greasy meatball head, by multiple of my peers, was told Im dump crap and will never make anything with myself, lived poor got bullied, so if anybody thinks I havent been impacted in my life they can go stick it. When I lived in my car I never asked for food stamps, I got food from garbage and ate moldy bread so I dont wanna hear it and I especially dont need to ask anyone.
 
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The only thing we need defending labeled with the term "Rights" is the "Bill of Rights" and we must ensure we dont give an inch to the government. Anything to the contrary will only cause more problems, thats what they want. We can take the Native American route and throw more money at other groups and people caught in the handout trap will find most of the time their life is still shyt.

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Jiigzz said:
Again, I don't deny issues regarding poverty in my own backyard.

But you do. How can there be change when you play the victim card everytime it is brought up?
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you don't deny it but you would much rather talk about it here than there-eh?

i don't know what life is like in NZ other than what i read about it-tell me what life is like for the maori, things like incarceration rate, you know-things like that which you are always talking about here in US.
 
ax1 said:
Im a direct vicim of racism. English was my 2nd language. I was beat up because I was 'the whitest kid in school" I was called a pizza slinger, dumb guinnie, WOP, greasy meatball head, by multiple of my peers, was told Im dump crap and will never make anything with myself, lived poor got bullied, so if anybody thinks I havent been impacted in my life they can go stick it. When I lived in my car I never asked for food stamps, I got food from garbage and ate moldy bread so I dont wanna hear it and I especially dont need to ask anyone.
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respect...for making something out of your life instead of being a 'VICTIM'.
 
Jiigzz said:
That might be how you try solve it. But unfortunately the world doesn't work that way.

When I was younger I dressed up as the token black guy from movies. It involved a lot of make up and costume and looked pretty convincing. In that day alone i got called the N word numerous times and had people literally cross the road or watch me closely as I just went about my business.

Sorry to say, but you saying racism doesn't exist doesn't stop it existing.
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Racism isnt exclusive to white people, nor is skin color the cause.

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So I have the right to rob you because the constitution does not prevent that? Good to know

ax1 said:
The only thing we need defending labeled with the term "Rights" is the "Bill of Rights" and we must ensure we dont give an inch to the government. Anything to the contrary will only cause more problems, thats what they want. We can take the Native American route and throw more money at other groups and people caught in the handout trap will find most of the time their life is still shyt.

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Jiigzz said:
So I have the right to rob you because the constitution does not prevent that? Good to know
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The Constitution absolutely does prevent that, unlike what libtards believe, the Constitution promotes the right to self defense.
 
ax1 said:
Racism isnt exclusive to white people, nor is skin color the cause.

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don't forget farrakhan...farrakhan has more than a few followers who are members of the US congress.
 
ax1 said:
Racism isnt exclusive to white people, nor is skin color the cause.

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If you think the two are even remotely similar, you are dillusional.

'Black person gets lynched for being Black in a white neighbourhood'

'White person gets called Honky'

Fox News: "Black's are more racist than whites!"

Ax1: "Racism doesn't exist, it's a state of mind"
 
Jiigzz said:
If you think the two are even remotely similar, you are dillusional.

'Black person gets lynched for being Black in a white neighbourhood'

'White person gets called Honky'

Fox News: "Black's are more racist than whites!"

Ax1: "Racism doesn't exist, it's a state of mind"
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If you want to make this about skin pigment, there is nobody getting lynched more in America than black people in black neighborhoods. Nothing else is even close here. So again, back on skin pigment, if you want skin based solutions, than a certain group needs to prioritize cleaning out their own closet first, dont they?
 
ax1 said:
The Constitution absolutely does prevent that, unlike what libtards believe, the Constitution promotes the right to self defense.
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Ok so I can burgle your house when you're not home?

Thank you constitution!
 
ax1 said:
If you want to make this about skin pigment, there is nobody getting lynched more in America than black people in black neighborhoods. Nothing else is even close here. So again, back on skin pigment, if you want skin based solutions, than a certain group needs to prioritize cleaning out their own closet first, dont they?
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Sure.

But who put them in the ghettos in the first place?
 
Jiigzz said:
Ok so I can burgle your house when you're not home?

Thank you constitution!
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You violated my private property rights, so Ill hand over the police the camera footage and you will have your time in court.

Its obvious your clueless as to the original founding laws of our Republic.
 
ax1 said:
You violated my private property rights, so Ill hand over the police the camera footage and you will have your time in court.

Its obvious your clueless as to the original founding laws of our Republic.
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What section of the constitution is that under?

What section allows the establishment of a police force?
 
Jiigzz said:
Sure.

But who put them in the ghettos in the first place?
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This isnt the 1950s anymore, but what you do is if anyone is still around from those times directly responsible you hold them and only them accountable for their actions. Other than that, there are no reasons to make excuses for personal problems, alot of people have problems for various reasons and if people choose the path of living a life of victim-hood and think someone owes them something via force well Im not down with that.
 
ax1 said:
This isnt the 1950s anymore, but what you do is if anyone is still around from those times directly responsible you hold them and only them accountable for their actions. Other than that, there are no reasons to make excuses for personal problems, alot of people have problems for various reasons and if people choose the path of living a life of victim-hood and think someone owes them something via force well Im not down with that.
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take a look at the 1950's and 60's, democrats were responsible for jim crow laws.
 
Jiigzz said:
What section of the constitution is that under?

What section allows the establishment of a police force?
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The 10th Amendment and State Powers. We set up our own localized non-federal police forces.
 
ax1 said:
The 10th Amendment and State Powers. We set up our own localized non-federal police forces.
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he should know better than argue the US Constitution with you--i learned that lesson, lol. 😇
 
thebigt said:
he should know better than argue the US Constitution with you--i learned that lesson, lol. 😇
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Well, I dont consider myself of scholar or anything but this is some of the most basic simple shyt.
 
ax1 said:
The 10th Amendment and State Powers. We set up our own localized non-federal police forces.
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So all federal laws are inherently illegal to enforce? Interesting.

Edit: as an FYI, this isn't true due to article 1 section 8.

I just wonder at what point does adding to the constitution no longer make it constitutional
 
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ax1 said:
Well, I dont consider myself of scholar or anything but this is some of the most basic simple shyt.
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Article 1 section 8 is interesting to read
 
Jiigzz said:
Article 1 section 8 is interesting to read
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Not that again, I already cleared that up earlier this year.

Its intended to fund basic forms of functioning government, it doesnt make people entitled to allow government to redistribute wealth and social engineer. You have to understand english, and the history of english and welfare didnt mean food stamps, thats where libtards drool and Bernie fist pumps out of one of his several mansions when he sees that.
 
ax1 said:
Not that again, I already cleared that up earlier this year.

Its intended to fund basic forms of functioning government, it doesnt make people entitled to allow government to redistribute wealth and social engineer. You have to understand english, and the history of english and welfare didnt mean food stamps, thats where libtards drool and Bernie fist pumps out of one of his several mansions when he sees that.
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When the second amendment was written, it was written when muskets were around and not ARs.

If people apply the second amendment to AR's, then welfare can mean food stamps in the modern age.
 
Jiigzz said:
When the second amendment was written, it was written when muskets were around and not ARs.

If people apply the second amendment to AR's, then welfare can mean food stamps in the modern age.
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the doctor is in....the doctor of spin
 
thebigt said:
the doctor is in....the doctor of spin
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Not a spin if it's the exact argument.

You should look up the definition of strawman.

Ax1 loves red herrings. Hence how we drfited from the topic of racism to him just randomly discussing the constitution.
 
Jiigzz said:
Not a spin if it's the exact argument.

You should look up the definition of strawman.
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spin it baby...

you still haven't told me those stories about how good the maori and pacific islanders have it in new zealand?

what happened to those poverty graphs you were going to show?
 
what percentage of the new zealanders in prison are maori?
 
do the maori think there is racism against them in new zealand.
 
what percentage of new aealand government is made up of maori?
 
Joe Biden and the Biden Admin democrats are the stupidest human beings to ever walk the Earth

The vaccines don't work. They don't prevent transmission, they dont cure it and they have actually in a new study caused more side effects and illness then covid itself.

But keep watching CNN and believing Fraudci.

This virus is going to die out soon. EVERYONE is sick with covid right now. IT's a good thing. Natural immunity. The only fools getting sick will be the ones getting the vaccine and the boosters. And spreading to each other now that their immune system is devastated.

And the Dumbocrats will keep this going, just until spring and summer. When the PCR tests are no longer used, since the CDC pulled the emergency authorization for them (because the flu, the cold and covid will test you positive for "covid") you will see the numbers drop dramatically. Just in time for the democrats to claim to their lovely voters, "We cured covid, now come vote for us in midterms" even though we fucked up the USA more then any President in the history of the Nation. And you fools will do just that.

Notice they are saying "The flu is back after a year off". To you dumbasses that think the flu left, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

It is easier to DECEIVE a fool, then to convince a fool he has been DECEIVED.

But you do you. Go get the 3-4-5-6 vaccines and boosters. Enjoy your blood clots and having covid multiple times, while the rest of us treat this like Sweden did. Like the common cold or flu that 99.9% of us live from.
 
Jiigzz said:
When the second amendment was written, it was written when muskets were around and not ARs.

If people apply the second amendment to AR's, then welfare can mean food stamps in the modern age.
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It was written for balance of powers between the people and government, both foreign and domestic, so you are completely wrong.

Its not like the Founding Fathers were uneducated and didnt have a concept of modernizing technology, or else they would have specified "The wright to bear a single shot musket" ....not.

We have every right to bear fully automatic weapons with 10000 round clips.

The term "Welfare" in the modern age isnt even "welfare" its destruction of society and enhanced power of the elite via a handout increasing government dependency and we fall to tyranny. Foodstamps and government social services do not provide welfare to society and the country.

Government doesnt give a crap about people, case closed.
 
WesleyInman said:
Joe Biden and the Biden Admin democrats are the stupidest human beings to ever walk the Earth

The vaccines don't work. They don't prevent transmission, they dont cure it and they have actually in a new study caused more side effects and illness then covid itself.

But keep watching CNN and believing Fraudci.

This virus is going to die out soon. EVERYONE is sick with covid right now. IT's a good thing. Natural immunity. The only fools getting sick will be the ones getting the vaccine and the boosters. And spreading to each other now that their immune system is devastated.

And the Dumbocrats will keep this going, just until spring and summer. When the PCR tests are no longer used, since the CDC pulled the emergency authorization for them (because the flu, the cold and covid will test you positive for "covid") you will see the numbers drop dramatically. Just in time for the democrats to claim to their lovely voters, "We cured covid, now come vote for us in midterms" even though we fucked up the USA more then any President in the history of the Nation. And you fools will do just that.

Notice they are saying "The flu is back after a year off". To you dumbasses that think the flu left, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

It is easier to DECEIVE a fool, then to convince a fool he has been DECEIVED.

But you do you. Go get the 3-4-5-6 vaccines and boosters. Enjoy your blood clots and having covid multiple times, while the rest of us treat this like Sweden did. Like the common cold or flu that 99.9% of us live from.
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thebigt said:
do the maori think there is racism against them in new zealand.
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Of course they do.

Have I ever said there wasn't? No. Because I also know there is.

Unlike some, I don't tell Maori there isn't racism or that they are not subject to racism.

Would it be right of me to say "nope I don't see it, they're just being victims?" Of course not.

I'm not telling Maori or Black's that there is racism, I'm simply echoing their experiences. You on the other hand are trying to tell them something doesn't exist when it very clearly does.

If I asked Bezos if poverty existed and he said "from where I sit on my 200M Yacht, poverty does not exist", does that make him right?
 
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thebigt said:
what percentage of the new zealanders in prison are maori?
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Let me get this straight, having more Maori in prison = racist, but having more Black's in prison = not racist?
 
ax1 said:
It was written for balance of powers between the people and government, both foreign and domestic, so you are completely wrong.

Its not like the Founding Fathers were uneducated and didnt have a concept of modernizing technology, or else they would have specified "The wright to bear a single shot musket" ....not.

We have every right to bear fully automatic weapons with 10000 round clips.

The term "Welfare" in the modern age isnt even "welfare" its destruction of society and enhanced power of the elite via a handout increasing government dependency and we fall to tyranny. Foodstamps and government social services do not provide welfare to society and the country.

Government doesnt give a crap about people, case closed.
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You saying they are not equivalent doesn't make it so. Welfare is welfare just as bearing arms is bearing arms.
 
Jiigzz said:
Let me get this straight, having more Maori in prison = racist, but having more Black's in prison = not racist?
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the definition of spin...you go spin baby...

notice how you didn't answer the question.....
 
Jiigzz said:
Of course they do.

Have I ever said there wasn't? No. Because I also know there is.

Unlike some, I don't tell Maori there isn't racism or that they are not subject to racism.

Would it be right of me to say "nope I don't see it, they're just being victims?" Of course not.

I'm not telling Maori or Black's that there is racism, I'm simply echoing their experiences. You on the other hand are trying to tell them something doesn't exist when it very clearly does.

If I asked Bezos if poverty existed and he said "from where I sit on my 200M Yacht, poverty does not exist", does that make him right?
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are the maori in new zealand segregated....just curious how many live next to you?


in b4 more spin.....
 
thebigt said:
the definition of spin...you go spin baby...

notice how you didn't answer the question.....
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I've answered this question a million times ITT. It's your default question to ask.
 
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