I have mentioned numerous times my love for 4-AD diol and wanting to try stacking it with testosterone 300mg weekly to see if there is synergy.. most will say No because the 4-AD converts to test at a low rate which you are already injecting.. but this post says other wise
4-Androstenediol is 95% as potent as
testosterone on injection. Since nowhere
near 95% is converted, more like 10% or less, the
anabolic results are mostly achieved
by 4-AD itself not by the small amount
that’s converted to testosterone.
As an illustration, with Androsol we elevate
4-AD levels by 3000 ng/dL or more but T levels
by only about 300 ng/dL. That small T elevation is nowhere near enough to account for the gains that users experience. 300 ng/dL has very little noticeable effect on anyone with normal T in the first place. But the effect
of Androsol is very noticeable.
Im all for experimentation in finding things out for ourselves, so go for it and see what happens.
But if you can, do yourself a favor and pick your testosterone dosage, use just that for 4 weeks or so and make notes, calories, training, bw ect. Then add the 4ad and keep training and diet the same. Then you know for certain how much the 4ad changed your results, if you were to start with both or kicked up your training or calories once you add 4ad you wouldn't know how much each is doing. I would definitely follow along if you logged it. I do believe that everything has a place. In thebigt's situation he doesn't have a choice to add more testosterone and 4ad was his way around that. But there's variables in the epiandro and androsterone. Yes the 4ad raised his t levels but they were still in range so we don't necessarily know if the gains came from that little boost in test or the other products.
While almost doubling your testosterone on bloodwork is a Big difference (650-1100)
That 550 increase wouldn't be a lot if it took you from 4000-4550.
Get what I'm saying here.
Either way. I'm starting to get interested in weather or not the 4ad has effects on its own but I have a feeling it's not much because we didn't see a lot of ppl using it solo with great results. But again, idk anything for certain and I could be completely wrong