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Whats the latest on SARMS?

Toff

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I see none have made it for human consumption nor got any kind of medical sign off

Do we have any news on, say Ostarines safety profile now, or reserach on s4?

We should have loads of data by now surely?
 
Bc they are mostly garbage lol
JK... But for real, whats wrong with taking some Test, Anavar and Primo or EQ? A lot ot human data on that, really good drugs, increasing nitrogen retention, strengthening of bones and ligaments, muscle mass while lowering bf.
 
ive got TRT so theres a sub for test there... having said that not use dit in over a year as i feel ok

Anavar? doesnt exist does it? not in the real world :D its all fakes
 
Rad-140 had a study done on it this year where they gave participants pretty high amounts and they tolerated it well iirc. Haven't seen the study myself though and don't know what the status is for medical use. I think it was planned to be used as some sort of hrt, but without the estrogen component I don't know how it would work. I've seen @Hyde talk about the study, maybe he knows more.

The attempts to bring Osta and Lgd to approved medical use have been ditched, due to bad results I think.. (I might be wrong here. That's just the conception I've got)
 
KvanH said:
Rad-140 had a study done on it this year where they gave participants pretty high amounts and they tolerated it well iirc. Haven't seen the study myself though and don't know what the status is for medical use. I think it was planned to be used as some sort of hrt, but without the estrogen component I don't know how it would work. I've seen @Hyde talk about the study, maybe he knows more.

The attempts to bring Osta and Lgd to approved medical use have been ditched, due to bad results I think.. (I might be wrong here. That's just the conception I've got)
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yep Osta is the only one i can find any info on
each time its been ditched as inefective at the 3mg dosage

people have been doing 15mg+ though (abusing) i guess noone can measure that in any study
 
Potbelly said:
Sarms suck really. Got blackstone labs pct IV with osatarine for free you pay shipping
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did olympus labs legend (lgd) and it most definitely did NOT suck! on par with epistane hell it may have even been epistane but you cant judge sarms from using osterine because osterine absolutely DOES suck!
 
KvanH said:
Rad-140 had a study done on it this year where they gave participants pretty high amounts and they tolerated it well iirc. Haven't seen the study myself though and don't know what the status is for medical use. I think it was planned to be used as some sort of hrt, but without the estrogen component I don't know how it would work. I've seen @Hyde talk about the study, maybe he knows more.

The attempts to bring Osta and Lgd to approved medical use have been ditched, due to bad results I think.. (I might be wrong here. That's just the conception I've got)
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Yeah they gave post-menopausal women doses up to 150mg per day for months, I believe to treat for breast cancer (RAD selectively binds to certain estrogen receptors in the chest).

The gist was that it did help, and doses up to 50mg were generally well-tolerated, although some of the women did experience elevated liver enzymes during treatment. The 100 and 150mg groups had lesser percentages of general tolerance/greater prevalence of elevated liver enzymes & sides that forced discontinuing treatment.

We don’t know what kind of side effects they had as far as rage, fatigue, hair-shedding: they were using this to treat cancer, so things like that aren’t really concerns. They only care if it’s working and if your bloodwork indicates you can hang.

But we did learn that many folks can take RAD at fairly high doses without risking major health concerns. You just want to monitor bloodwork, like most cycles.
 
johnny412 said:
did olympus labs legend (lgd) and it most definitely did NOT suck! on par with epistane hell it may have even been epistane but you cant judge sarms from using osterine because osterine absolutely DOES suck!
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that OLD olympus labs stuff was really good!!!

for some reason they DCed all their hardcore stuff and went PG....they seem to be making a comeback with some of their recent releases.
 
thebigt said:
that OLD olympus labs stuff was really good!!!

for some reason they DCed all their hardcore stuff and went PG....they seem to be making a comeback with some of their recent releases.
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yeah i dont trust them anymore lol but back in the day WHEW they were the best!
 
Toff said:
ive got TRT so theres a sub for test there... having said that not use dit in over a year as i feel ok

Anavar? doesnt exist does it? not in the real world :D its all fakes
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There's plenty of real var, all of the highly respected ugl's that have stood the test of time have real var. A company that's tried and Tru most likely will not risk there reputation. Then there's always pharmaceutical grade stuff.

And there's plenty of fakes out there too
 
johnny412 said:
did olympus labs legend (lgd) and it most definitely did NOT suck! on par with epistane hell it may have even been epistane but you cant judge sarms from using osterine because osterine absolutely DOES suck!
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Im 99.9% sure that the Olympus legand was spiked with prohormones. Ppl were using it at 8-12 mg and gaining 15+lbs. I've used oral lgd and injectable lgd from multiple brands and I've never seen another lgd product put weight on someone like that. Not at 8-12 mg and not even at 30-40mg. I'm almost positive there had to be SD or M1T sprinkled in that product
 
Smont said:
Im 99.9% sure that the Olympus legand was spiked with prohormones. Ppl were using it at 8-12 mg and gaining 15+lbs. I've used oral lgd and injectable lgd from multiple brands and I've never seen another lgd product put weight on someone like that. Not at 8-12 mg and not even at 30-40mg. I'm almost positive there had to be SD or M1T sprinkled in that product
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i gained 11 pounds and my shirts were falling off of me i lost so much fat
 
johnny412 said:
did olympus labs legend (lgd) and it most definitely did NOT suck! on par with epistane hell it may have even been epistane but you cant judge sarms from using osterine because osterine absolutely DOES suck!
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Not judging from just osterine Johnny
 
johnny412 said:
i gained 11 pounds and my shirts were falling off of me i lost so much fat
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I believe it, lots of people were reporting results like that, but it was only specifically from Olympus Labs brand. None of the other ones back then and none of the other ones today do that. So unless Olympus had real lgd and everyone else's is fake I have to assume that product was spiked
 
wfreiling said:
I have 2 bottles of Vicious Labs LGD, anyone use this in the past?
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There a top notch company so I would assume it's the same as maresearchch lgd, amino asylum lgd and the other places that are reputable that still carry lgd.

Lgd should be lgd, so every single ingredient lgd product should be exactly the same unless its bunk, spiked, under or over dosed.
 
Smont said:
There a top notch company so I would assume it's the same as maresearchch lgd, amino asylum lgd and the other places that are reputable that still carry lgd.

Lgd should be lgd, so every single ingredient lgd product should be exactly the same unless its bunk, spiked, under or over dosed.
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I figure they’re gtg just wondering on dosage when I do decided to run it. I have 180 4mg caps.
 
wfreiling said:
I figure they’re gtg just wondering on dosage when I do decided to run it. I have 180 4mg caps.
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Ask 10 ppl and get 10 different suggestions.

I personally don't like oral lgd at less then 20mg per day. If someone has never ran anything before then I'd suggest 8-12mg to start
 
Smont said:
Ask 10 ppl and get 10 different suggestions.

I personally don't like oral lgd at less then 20mg per day. If someone has never ran anything before then I'd suggest 8-12mg to start
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Good to know. I’ve never ran any sarms. Just about everything else. These were thrown in with a stash I bought off of someone.
 
Ppl hear 20-40mg and there like omg that's crazy, well ppl have no problems running 50mg dbol and 50-100mg anavar.

Anavar is considered weak and mg vs mg it's probably the same strength as lgd (in my opinion) if I said I was gonna run 12mg of var I'd get laughed off the boards, " that's a girl's dose" which it is. So I don't see why any guys would take less then 20lgd when they wouldn't take less then 20 var
 
wfreiling said:
Good to know. I’ve never ran any sarms. Just about everything else. These were thrown in with a stash I bought off of someone.
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If you used any of the stronger prohormones or oral steroids your going to find lgd very weak. Start at 20
 
wfreiling said:
Will do I might add it on to a bulking cycle down the road.
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I like using injectable lgd now to throw in cycles for a little kick in the ass. If oral was cheaper I'd probably use that too. Mainly because I find it mildly effective with zero sides. So I feel like it's a nice way to throw something into the mix to kick it up a tiny notch with no added side effects
 
@wfreiling
When I say no side effects I'm taking me personally. There are some ppl that say it screwed up there bloodwork so take it for what it is. Even if it does have some negative effects for ppl there, I'd have to assume it's far less damage then if they threw a equivalent dose of dbol or Winny or any of the methylated prohormones
 
Smont said:
I like using injectable lgd now to throw in cycles for a little kick in the ass. If oral was cheaper I'd probably use that too. Mainly because I find it mildly effective with zero sides. So I feel like it's a nice way to throw something into the mix to kick it up a tiny notch with no added side effects
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That was my experience with Supreme’s injectable LGD4033. Ran 24-30mg/day about 5-6 days a week for around a month. Felt like adding a very mild oral, kinda like Mechabol at 50mg/day tops.

Just enough to notice it on top of 300 test, 200 deca, it definitely added something, but pretty damn mild compared to any standard methyl at standard doses. Not sure SARMs are really worth it from a health/effect perspective vs traditional compounds (for men), but just evaluating them as they are here.
 
I liked inj LGD enough that I bought more in a blend with YK11 to try at some point. It’s one of the better SARMs.
 
Hyde said:
I liked inj LGD enough that I bought more in a blend with YK11 to try at some point. It’s one of the better SARMs.
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That product with the lgd and yk is on my to do list. I have only tried oral yk and I pulled the plug on like week 3 or 4 because I didn't feel like it was doing anything, but I've seen lots of ppl say the injectable has different and greater results which I found to be true with lgd
 
Smont said:
That product with the lgd and yk is on my to do list. I have only tried oral yk and I pulled the plug on like week 3 or 4 because I didn't feel like it was doing anything, but I've seen lots of ppl say the injectable has different and greater results which I found to be true with lgd
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Plan on doing Supremes oral LGD3303 stacked with their injectable YK
 
ValiantThor08 said:
Plan on doing Supremes oral LGD3303 stacked with their injectable YK
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I do have their inj 3033 as well, but I bought that as a preWO. Most that will get pinned is 4x a week; link me if you make a log. I have heard the oral 3033 is gas, but I already have plenty of actual orals if I want to give myself heartburn fast so I went with oil
 
Hyde said:
I do have their inj 3033 as well, but I bought that as a preWO. Most that will get pinned is 4x a week; link me if you make a log. I have heard the oral 3033 is gas, but I already have plenty of actual orals if I want to give myself heartburn fast so I went with oil
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When you say gas, you mean like eating at your digestive system lol?
 
ValiantThor08 said:
When you say gas, you mean like eating at your digestive system lol?
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No sorry, lol my stepdaughter is always going on with the slang the kids use these days and it inevitably rubs off - gas, fire, lit, dope, cool, great, or otherwise positive in connotation

Anecdote is that oral 3033 is potent in effect at 15-30mg per day.

But orals generally do mess up my gut/digestion/hunger/cause acid reflux pretty quickly for me, so that’s what I meant when I said I opted for oil.
 
Hyde said:
No sorry, lol my stepdaughter is always going on with the slang the kids use these days and it inevitably rubs off - gas, fire, lit, dope, cool, great, or otherwise positive in connotation

Anecdote is that oral 3033 is potent in effect at 15-30mg per day.

But orals generally do mess up my gut/digestion/hunger/cause acid reflux pretty quickly for me, so that’s what I meant when I said I opted for oil.
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I got you, yeah, 3303 is supposed to be the “bees knees”.
 
johnny412 said:
this was not olympus uk. i think i even bought it on amazon lol
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Ah ok. There were reports on here from people using OL UK Legend and having bad sides. Baring in mind there was also issues with their OL UK Superdrol, wouldnt surprise me if it was prohormones. I never understood what the connections were between OL UK and OL Labs as they were identical labelling?
 
jim2509 said:
Ah ok. There were reports on here from people using OL UK Legend and having bad sides. Baring in mind there was also issues with their OL UK Superdrol, wouldnt surprise me if it was prohormones. I never understood what the connections were between OL UK and OL Labs as they were identical labelling?
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that was way after i ran LeGenD
 
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