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Anyone had any experiences on this? I’m looking to give it a go to get rid of some excess belly fat. Anything in particular I should be taking with it or avoiding?
tighten up diet, workout hard and it should make results better than they would have been without it...i am a big fan of 11kt but it won't do much unless you put in the work..Anyone had any experiences on this? I’m looking to give it a go to get rid of some excess belly fat. Anything in particular I should be taking with it or avoiding?
Yeh I’m planning on it pal! I’ve read decent reviews on it and thought I might aswell give it a go. Should I avoid taking anything with it du think?tighten up diet, workout hard and it should make results better than they would have been without it...i am a big fan of 11kt but it won't do much unless you put in the work..
good luck!!!
i would go light on alcohol...and limit nsaid use.Yeh I’m planning on it pal! I’ve read decent reviews on it and thought I might aswell give it a go. Should I avoid taking anything with it du think?
NSAID? As in ibuprofen etc? Any reason for this? I know wasn’t aware of that. As for the alcohol, I haven’t drank any for a while and don’t plan on it.i would go light on alcohol...and limit nsaid use.
1st off good on you for cutting the alcohol...while 11kt is mild on liver being a transdermal, everything still has to pass thru liver and alcohol and nsaids put additional stress on liver. you don't need to cut out nsaids [ibuprofen]altogether but i suggest to limit their use to only occassionally...using with thermagize should be fine but keep an eye on blood pressure.NSAID? As in ibuprofen etc? Any reason for this? I know wasn’t aware of that. As for the alcohol, I haven’t drank any for a while and don’t plan on it.
Would it be save to continue using SNS Thermagize? Sorry for all the questions
Think if you were on a calorie deficit how it would be.I did about 6 weeks of iconic 11 and noticed decent results, nothing drastic but leaned out very slightly while eating the same.
That's a cool looking stack. I'm doing Ursa+Reduce XT right now. I'm 3 weeks out from latest pct, so have to avoid anything even mildly suppressive.I just started kt-Xi last week at 1.5 ml. Nothing to note just yet. Also running with Ursa Major.
To my knowledge ibuprofen is not harsh on the liver. It's a lot more taxing on the gut and digestion. Paracetamol is more taxing on the liver. Not to say one shouldn't minimise ibuprofen use in any case.1st off good on you for cutting the alcohol...while 11kt is mild on liver being a transdermal, everything still has to pass thru liver and alcohol and nsaids put additional stress on liver. you don't need to cut out nsaids [ibuprofen]altogether but i suggest to limit their use to only occassionally...using with thermagize should be fine but keep an eye on blood pressure.
keep the questions coming if you have more--i've got a errand to run, but will be back in a little while.
I’m a runt @ 5’6” and 160lb. I ran 8 weeks of IF icon 11 at the start of this year during a cut at only 1ml/day (0.5ml once morning and evening) and had the most successful short recomp I’ve ever done. My physique is poor compared to most on this board, but I went from ~171 to ~159 lb and no ab definition to best midsection def I’ve had in 8 years.
Realizing that dose is not much compared to many logs I’ve read (iirc that was 85mg/day), in hindsight I think i would have had slightly better results from a small dose increase around week 5 or 6. Looking forward to running it at 100mg+/day again this year. Btw had nice/unexpected secondary effects for me on inflammation and chronic joint pain from years of endurance sports. When I do a cut I can usually get some vascularity in arms, legs, and upper body, but stay a chonk in my midsection. I was highly impressed with midsection improvement weekly on Icon 11, it targeted my midsection way past my expectations.View attachment 204037
nice-eh?Here's a pretty nice transformation on 11-KT:
Stellarnice-eh?
I find it mad how much information people can digest properly, I’ve tried researching things but sometimes it either goes over my head or I just can’t find the right information. So people like me really do appreciate people with knowledge who are willing to point others in the right direction.1st off good on you for cutting the alcohol...while 11kt is mild on liver being a transdermal, everything still has to pass thru liver and alcohol and nsaids put additional stress on liver. you don't need to cut out nsaids [ibuprofen]altogether but i suggest to limit their use to only occassionally...using with thermagize should be fine but keep an eye on blood pressure.
keep the questions coming if you have more--i've got a errand to run, but will be back in a little while.
im enterested in these results.I just started kt-Xi last week at 1.5 ml. Nothing to note just yet. Also running with Ursa Major.
around 5 minutesHow long after applying can you get dressed or have a shower?
I am referring to iconic ultra 11 by the wayThat log is insane! And even better results! Are results like that possible with such a small dose? At 1 ml per day, a bottle would last about 200 days!! I’m physically almost identical to that, so I could see similar results if I used 2ml per day?
a bottle of ultra eleven contains 28 doses at 5 pumps per dose = 200mg of 11kt per dose....if you compare this dose is the highest dosed product i know of-by a pretty large margin.I am referring to iconic ultra 11 by the way
how did you apply? did you take them both at the same time? or seperate them?I just started kt-Xi last week at 1.5 ml. Nothing to note just yet. Also running with Ursa Major.
I started Ultra 11 last week which is basically the same as XI-KT and have been finishing a bottle of Ursa Major. I put both on in the morning (after shower) and just put the Ultra eleven on upper body and the Ursa on inner thighs/tops of feet.how did you apply? did you take them both at the same time? or seperate them?
Interesting stack.I just started kt-Xi last week at 1.5 ml. Nothing to note just yet. Also running with Ursa Major.
Interested as wellInteresting stack.
as one hormonal and the other non-hormonal. Would have thought Ursa Major would be better in pct?
How did this go?
It seemed to work but nothing drastic. I got down to my leanest weight in a long time with a slight deficit. Dropped about 6 lb in 8 weeks. No noticeable strength gains.Interesting stack.
as one hormonal and the other non-hormonal. Would have thought Ursa Major would be better in pct?
How did this go?