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Donald Trump running for president

thebigt said:
not to mention girls athletics...already soccer moms are complaining that their girls are losing out on awards and scholarships to boys who 'identify' as girls.
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If I stand in my garage and make engine sounds, it doesn't make me a car.
 
GREAT NEWS!!!

JB and the Funky Bunch will be attempting to impose a new $3T (as in trillion, you know, $3,000,000,000,000) tax increase!

Now that is just what we need! The sooner, the better. We will all be better off having much less disposable income.

This little initiative will include a tax increase for corporations (from 21% to 28%), small businesses and individuals! That is just what the economic doctor ordered. That little shut the economy down for a year thing that was allegedly done in our best interest because of the - you know -the Pandemic - failed to completely kill the economy. Now what we need to make everything better is a MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. Yes, that will help everything. And it may help pay for our new found guests; those weary travelers to whom JB extended a hearty invitation on all of our behalves.

Now, you have been told that only individuals who make more that $400,000 will see a tax increase. Well, that is what they originally said. As it was originally told, that would be $400,000 per person, but now - not so. It is now $400,000 per family. But, you know, things change.

So only the high wage earners, those swaggering around making $400K a year, will be impacted, right? No. That is not how this whole thing works. As the cost of business increases (due to things like increased labor costs and higher taxation), all families and individuals (even those making less than $400,000) will see a significant increase in the prices (costs) they must pay for products and services. Why is that? Well businesses cannot operate (long term) at a loss, and because increased taxes increases a businesses costs, it reduces their profit. Wow, that doesn't sound too good for the business, or the consumer.

What happens next?

In the case of a corporation, a 7% increases in taxes will have to be offset somehow, right? Yes, it is the fiduciary charter of most businesses to maximize the wealth of their shareholders. What will these corporations do, you ask? You guessed it - the increased costs will most certainly result in increased prices they must charge to consumers. Businesses must charge higher prices to customers (that means, you and me) to retain the same level of profitability (failing which, stock prices drop - and that is a whole other mess). Oh, by the way, when prices increase, so does the amount of sales tax you will pay. Higher prices and higher sales tax. That sounds bad.

How are we to afford these more expensive goods and services if our taxes and living costs increase? Won't we have less buying power? Won't we see a reduction in our disposable income? Yes, you will. So, higher prices but less disposable income. That sounds bad.

But, "Corporations are bad, and they deserve to pay more", we've been told. Here is a novel question. Who do corporations employ? What percentage of the work force is employed by a corporation? (Go ahead and look, we'll wait). The answer is, in technical terms, a crap load of people, something in excess of 51%. If the corporation's profit drops, will these bad corporations be able to afford to hire and promote and increase the salaries of their employees, while still maintaining the same level of profitability? No. In realty, they will be forced to reduce headcount in order to maintain profitability. Well, either that, or they will offshore your jobs to low labor market countries. Wait, that seems contrary to our economy benefitting our citizens the most. Yes, that is correct, and that sounds bad.

But what do these bad corporations do anyway? They make the goods and services you buy. If their costs increase, so will your prices. That's bad, right? Yes.

Lets see if we can get this right. Many businesses are now toppling at the point of insolvency, due to the helpful shut down of the economy. Imposing higher taxes is very likely to push many of these businesses over the brink. What about cutting costs, you say? Well, the most variable and controllable cost of almost every businesses (especially in the short term) is direct labor. So, prior to going bankrupt, these businesses will lay off employees. That's bad, you say. Yes, especially if you are the one laid off.

But wait a minute - hold on - aren't we talking about increasing the minimum wage to $15? Yes, we are. And- guess what? That will actually make matters even worse because it will increase total labor costs (and also the taxes paid by those wage earners). But, in practical terms - for those who are laid off, their minimum wage just became $0. I know, I know - here is what they will do: They will go on unemployment, won't they? Yes, they will. Lets think about that for a minute - how is that whole unemployment thing funded? You guessed it. Open your wallet. Oh, remember the talk of laying people off and replacing (off-shoring) their job? Well assuming the person in the US was making a $15 minimum wage, he/she might be replaced with a minimum wage worker in India (making about $2.50/Hr.). Hey, that is a big difference. Yes, it is, but it is still bad to the displaced US worker. Is that one of the things that other President, the one who used to send those tweets that made me feel bad, was trying to avoid, is that what that other guy meant when he said "America first"? Yes, that was part of it.

But why can't they just go out and find a new job? More than likely, the entire economy will be impacted, but most seriously those who make the lowest wage because they are assumed to be the lowest skilled and most easily replaced/done without (the same ones who were supposed to benefit from that nifty increase to $15). Some industries may be hurt disproportionately (take, for example, those working in the pipeline industry). Boy, none of this sounds very good at all.

As more people become unemployed, more will file for Government assistance. Here is something you might ask: Which party is the champion of Government entitlement and hand out programs? Well, that is the Democraps, right? But aren't they the ones who made things spiral out of control by increasing our taxes? Yes, but the more everything turns to economic crap, the more the likelihood that the Democraps will be re-elected. How can that be? Voters are unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them.

Oh, so over time - people will become more dependent on Government subsidies, is that it? Exactly.

Wait, I was told there would be no math. Sorry.

See, this whole thing will turn out to be the gift that keeps giving (from your bank account).

But wait, there is an added bonus: To those having no economic sense whatsoever, the Democraps get to look even more magnanimous by doling out money on ill-advised pork-belly programs and other social boondoggles.


In other words, they get to look magnanimous and generous by spending money they have sucked out of our wallets.

Everyone loses; well, almost everyone.
 
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Beau said:
GREAT NEWS!!!

JB and the Funky Bunch will be attempting impose a new $3T (as in trillion, you know, $3,000,000,000,000) tax increase!

Now that is just what we need! The sooner, the better. We will all be better off having much less disposable income.

This little initiative will include a tax increase for corporations (from 21% to 28%), small businesses and individuals! That is just what the economic doctor ordered. That little shut the economy down for a year thing that was allegedly done in our best interest because of the - you know -the Pandemic - failed to completely kill the economy. Now what we need to make everything better is a MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. Yes, that will help everything. And it may help pay for our new found guests; those weary travelers to whom JB extended a hearty invitation on all of our behalves.

Now, you have been told that only individuals who make more that $400,000 will see a tax increase. Well, that is what they originally said. As it was originally told, that would be $400,000 per person, but now - not so. It is now $400,000 per family. But, you know, things change.

So only the high wage earners, those swaggering around making $400K a year, will be impacted, right? No. That is not how this while thing works. If the cost of business increases (due to things like increased labor costs and higher taxation), all families and individuals (even those making less than $400,000) will see a significant increase in the prices (costs) they must pay for products and services. Why is that? Well businesses cannot operate (long term) at a loss, and because increased taxes increases a businesses costs, it reduces their profit. Wow, that doesn't sound too good for the business, or the consumer.

What happens next?

In the case of corporation, a 7% increases in taxes will have to be offset somehow, right? Yes, it is the fiduciary charter of most businesses to maximize the wealth of their shareholders. What will these corporations do, you ask? You guessed it - the increased costs will most certainly result in increased prices they must charge to consumers. Businesses must charge higher prices to customers (that means, you and me) to retain the same level of profitability (failing which, stock prices drop - and that is a whole other mess). Oh, by the way, when prices increase, so does the amount of sales tax you will pay. Higher prices and higher sales tax. That sounds bad.

But, "Corporations are bad, and they deserve to pay more", we've been told. Here is a novel question. Who do corporations employ? What percentage of the work force is employed by a corporation. (Go ahead and look, we'll wait). The answer is, in technical terms, a crap load of people. If the corporation's profit drops, will these bad corporations be able to afford to hire and promote and increase the salaries of their employees? No. In realty, they will be forced to reduce headcount. Well, either that, or they will offshore your jobs to low labor market countries. Wait, that seems contrary to our economy benefitting our citizens the most. Yes, that is correct.

But what do these bad corporations do anyway? They make the goods and services you buy. If their costs increase, so will your prices.

Lets see if we can get this right. Many businesses are now toppling at the point of insolvency, due to the helpful shut down of the economy. Imposing higher taxes is very likely to push many of these businesses over the brink. What about cutting costs, you say? Well, the most variable and controllable cost of almost every businesses (especially in the short term) is direct labor. So, prior to going bankrupt, these businesses will lay off employees. That's bad, you say.

But wait a minute - hold on - aren't we talking about increasing the minimum wage to $15? Yes, we are. And- guess what? That will actually make matters even worse. In practical terms - for those who are laid off, their minimum wage just became $0. I know, I know - here is what they will do: They will go on unemployment, won't they? Yes, they will. Lets think about that for a minute - how is that whole unemployment thing funded? You guessed it. Open your wallet.

As more people become unemployed, more will file for Government assistance. Here is something you might ask: Which party is the champion of Government entitlement and hand out programs? Well, that is the Democraps, right? Aren't they the ones who want to increase our taxes? Yes, but the more everything turns to economic crap, the more the likelihood that the Democraps will be re-elected. How can that be? Voters are unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them.

Oh, so over time - people will become more dependent on Government subsidies, is that it? Exactly.

Wait, I was told there would be no math. Sorry.

See, this whole thing will turn out to be the gift that keeps giving (from your bank account).

But wait, there is an added bonus: To those having no economic sense whatsoever, the Democraps get to look even more magnanimous by doling out money on ill-advised pork-belly programs and other social boondoggles.


In other words, they get to look magnanimous and generous by spending money they have sucked out of our wallets.

Everyone loses; well, almost everyone.
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inb4 yeah, but trump
 
Beau said:
GREAT NEWS!!!

JB and the Funky Bunch will be attempting impose a new $3T (as in trillion, you know, $3,000,000,000,000) tax increase!

Now that is just what we need! The sooner, the better. We will all be better off having much less disposable income.

This little initiative will include a tax increase for corporations (from 21% to 28%), small businesses and individuals! That is just what the economic doctor ordered. That little shut the economy down for a year thing that was allegedly done in our best interest because of the - you know -the Pandemic - failed to completely kill the economy. Now what we need to make everything better is a MASSIVE TAX INCREASE. Yes, that will help everything. And it may help pay for our new found guests; those weary travelers to whom JB extended a hearty invitation on all of our behalves.

Now, you have been told that only individuals who make more that $400,000 will see a tax increase. Well, that is what they originally said. As it was originally told, that would be $400,000 per person, but now - not so. It is now $400,000 per family. But, you know, things change.

So only the high wage earners, those swaggering around making $400K a year, will be impacted, right? No. That is not how this while thing works. If the cost of business increases (due to things like increased labor costs and higher taxation), all families and individuals (even those making less than $400,000) will see a significant increase in the prices (costs) they must pay for products and services. Why is that? Well businesses cannot operate (long term) at a loss, and because increased taxes increases a businesses costs, it reduces their profit. Wow, that doesn't sound too good for the business, or the consumer.

What happens next?

In the case of corporation, a 7% increases in taxes will have to be offset somehow, right? Yes, it is the fiduciary charter of most businesses to maximize the wealth of their shareholders. What will these corporations do, you ask? You guessed it - the increased costs will most certainly result in increased prices they must charge to consumers. Businesses must charge higher prices to customers (that means, you and me) to retain the same level of profitability (failing which, stock prices drop - and that is a whole other mess). Oh, by the way, when prices increase, so does the amount of sales tax you will pay. Higher prices and higher sales tax. That sounds bad.

How are we to afford these more expense's goods and services if our taxes and living costs increase? Won't we have less buying power? Won't we see a reduction in our disposable income? Yes, you will. So, higher prices but less disposable income. That sounds bad.

But, "Corporations are bad, and they deserve to pay more", we've been told. Here is a novel question. Who do corporations employ? What percentage of the work force is employed by a corporation. (Go ahead and look, we'll wait). The answer is, in technical terms, a crap load of people. If the corporation's profit drops, will these bad corporations be able to afford to hire and promote and increase the salaries of their employees? No. In realty, they will be forced to reduce headcount. Well, either that, or they will offshore your jobs to low labor market countries. Wait, that seems contrary to our economy benefitting our citizens the most. Yes, that is correct, and that sounds bad.

But what do these bad corporations do anyway? They make the goods and services you buy. If their costs increase, so will your prices. Bad, right?

Lets see if we can get this right. Many businesses are now toppling at the point of insolvency, due to the helpful shut down of the economy. Imposing higher taxes is very likely to push many of these businesses over the brink. What about cutting costs, you say? Well, the most variable and controllable cost of almost every businesses (especially in the short term) is direct labor. So, prior to going bankrupt, these businesses will lay off employees. That's bad, you say.

But wait a minute - hold on - aren't we talking about increasing the minimum wage to $15? Yes, we are. And- guess what? That will actually make matters even worse. In practical terms - for those who are laid off, their minimum wage just became $0. I know, I know - here is what they will do: They will go on unemployment, won't they? Yes, they will. Lets think about that for a minute - how is that whole unemployment thing funded? You guessed it. Open your wallet.

As more people become unemployed, more will file for Government assistance. Here is something you might ask: Which party is the champion of Government entitlement and hand out programs? Well, that is the Democraps, right? Aren't they the ones who want to increase our taxes? Yes, but the more everything turns to economic crap, the more the likelihood that the Democraps will be re-elected. How can that be? Voters are unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them.

Oh, so over time - people will become more dependent on Government subsidies, is that it? Exactly.

Wait, I was told there would be no math. Sorry.

See, this whole thing will turn out to be the gift that keeps giving (from your bank account).

But wait, there is an added bonus: To those having no economic sense whatsoever, the Democraps get to look even more magnanimous by doling out money on ill-advised pork-belly programs and other social boondoggles.


In other words, they get to look magnanimous and generous by spending money they have sucked out of our wallets.

Everyone loses; well, almost everyone.
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inb4 yeah, but Dump

UBI around the corner, they are already pushing for $2,000 a month per person during the rest of the crisis.....I doubt it will go away once things get really fuqed up.
 
dixonk said:
When you say “owning” are you referring to him defending Islamic terrorism or murdering babies?
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The classic reductio ad absurdum
 
Jiigzz said:
Ah, I had misread "Islamic terrorists" as "Capitol Insurrectionist"
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The "Capitol Insurrectionists" are no more, that was in the past....they are now President and VP. They won, its over. As a bonus one is a depraved child molester and the other is a obese droid with a virus.
 
dixonk said:
It’s not an insurrection when the govt is illegitimate and operating in a unconstitutional and criminal manner which would invalidate its authority.
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So if i get what you're putting down, it was an insurrection because none of those things are true.

Glad we agree on that.
 
Jiigzz said:
So if i get what you're putting down, it was an insurrection because none of those things are true.

Glad we agree on that.
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Either I have had a little too much THC tonight or you’re talking with an Australian accent here. I am not understanding this.
 
dixonk said:
Either I have had a little too much THC tonight or you’re talking with an Australian accent here. I am not understanding this.
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Since I identify as a gender neutral fetus, my THC consumption is only entirely dependent on my mother. So much for pro-choice.
 
I just joined the THC party unknowingly before checking this thread. Been a few weeks, should feel nice....

Jiggz I’ll give you points for endurance.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
you're afraid to watch the films aren't you?> cant be bothered with the truth. FYD
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Don't you find it slightly odd that they have all the evidence in the world UNTIL they are asked to present it in court?

The problem with any documentary is that they present their evidence unchallenged, in a rather convincing way using people who hold authority, even when their views are constantly refuted by their peers. Docos give a biased weighting to a view, even when it is flat wrong.

The reality is, the evidence was not presented in court where it could be challenged and the lawyers stated on record they did not have any.
 
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Jiigzz said:
Don't you find it slightly odd that they have all the evidence in the world UNTIL they are asked to present it in court?

The problem with any documentary is that they present their evidence unchallenged, in a rather convincing way using people who hold authority, even when their views are constantly refuted by their peers. Docos give a biased weighting to a view, even when it is flat wrong.

The reality is, the evidence was not presented in court where it could be challenged and the lawyers stated on record they did not have any.
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kinda like BLM and facebook-eh?

are you still a blm supporter?
 
dixonk said:
Either I have had a little too much THC tonight or you’re talking with an Australian accent here. I am not understanding this.
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i've got some kannaease from sns coming, looking forward to trying.
 
BamBam54 said:
Meanwhile Biden continues to struggle simply walking up steps
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biden continues to struggle remembering his name...the other day i heard him say,,,,'like it was when i joined the senate 120 years ago'.

yes, the brain dead moron actually said that...

inb4 yeah, but trump
 
When Trump merely walked slowly down a ramp, the media headlines accused him of major health issues. Jiiigz was probably dancing a Jig??

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Meanwhile, Trump beat covid in less than a week, did 3 rallies a day, and answers questions for hours. LOL
 
BamBam54 said:
When Trump merely walked slowly down a ramp, the media headlines accused him of major health issues. Jiiigz was probably dancing a Jig??

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Meanwhile, Trump beat covid in less than a week, did 3 rallies a day, and answers questions for hours. LOL
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and biden needs a teleprompter to remind him what his name is...and this brain dead moron has the nuclear codes-- o_O
 
If Federal Law already makes it illegal to slash someone in the face, how does labeling it a "hate crime" reduce violence? Does the low life thug criminal ready to slash and rob someone go in the middle of the process and go, "on second thought...they are asian, shyt nevermind!"
 
Jiigzz said:
Don't you find it slightly odd that they have all the evidence in the world UNTIL they are asked to present it in court?

The problem with any documentary is that they present their evidence unchallenged, in a rather convincing way using people who hold authority, even when their views are constantly refuted by their peers. Docos give a biased weighting to a view, even when it is flat wrong.

The reality is, the evidence was not presented in court where it could be challenged and the lawyers stated on record they did not have any.
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Your really overcomplicating it, there are laws that prevent validating voters with voter ID, so by default the entire election is a illegitimate for all sides.

Courts here are full of human filth and corrupt at its core as well, so this is the world of think for thyself.
 
thebigt said:
and biden needs a teleprompter to remind him what his name is...and this brain dead moron has the nuclear codes-- o_O
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You ever notice sometimes when he talks he leans forward and looks as if he is looking for people watching him inside the camera?
 
Jiigzz said:
Don't you find it slightly odd that they have all the evidence in the world UNTIL they are asked to present it in court?

The problem with any documentary is that they present their evidence unchallenged, in a rather convincing way using people who hold authority, even when their views are constantly refuted by their peers. Docos give a biased weighting to a view, even when it is flat wrong.

The reality is, the evidence was not presented in court where it could be challenged and the lawyers stated on record they did not have any.
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NO courts have seen it ... thats the problem
NO courts will see it. thats the problem

watch it i dare u .. oh but wait your not american? you are from NZ?
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
NO courts have seen it ... thats the problem
NO courts will see it. thats the problem

watch it i dare u .. oh but wait your not american? you are from NZ?
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Do you know why justices can dismiss a lawsuit before trial? You should look that up

A case not being heard is not a miscarriage of justice, it is demonstrating exactly how the justice system is designed to limit time wasters.

The fact that SCOTUS was packed with conservative majority and the cases still not heard should be very telling
 
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ax1 said:
I just factshytted your question and this is the first fact that came up.

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If Trump had more voters, then he would have more donors with more money.

Soooooooooooo what happened? Could they not afford more than the side with less voters?
 
Jiigzz said:
If Trump had more voters, then he would have more donors with more money.

Soooooooooooo what happened? Could they not afford more than the side with less voters?
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yeah, but trump-eh?
 
Jiigzz said:
If Trump had more voters, then he would have more donors with more money.

Soooooooooooo what happened? Could they not afford more than the side with less voters?
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Here in the USA if your a Judge and dont comply with the deep state you wont wake up the next morning and you will have a pillow over your face. That goes for all levels including the Supreme Court.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
so jiggs ... u dint answer my question.. are you from the US?
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Biden sent me $70,000, so that means I am.

Plus you didn't answer my question: do you even know how lawsuits work?
 
ax1 said:
Here in the USA if your a Judge and dont comply with the deep state you wont wake up the next morning and you will have a pillow over your face. That goes for all levels including the Supreme Court.
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Is it one of Mike Lindells pillows?
 
ax1 said:
I dont even know what than means anymore these days.
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The term “American“ will be next on the canceled list. ”Patriot“ as well...or was that already canceled 🤷‍♂️

It’s hard to keep up!

I haven’t been following much of the “news” lately. It’s too depressing to see the O’Biden administration dismantle this country and turn it into a Third World country. It’s painful to watch any of those corrupt pieces of shyt even speak. Very sad times..
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
NO courts have seen it ... thats the problem
NO courts will see it. thats the problem

watch it i dare u .. oh but wait your not american? you are from NZ?
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Evidence of fraud was not presented in court at least in part bc trump’s legal team declined the opportunity to present evidence. That is a fact.

I am not sure where Jiggz is from has to do with this discussion. Either this is an open discussion forum where we invite all opinions or it is not. Should his opinion be excluded bc he is from NZ? What point are you trying to make?
 
Ricky10 said:
The term “American“ will be next on the canceled list. ”Patriot“ as well...or was that already canceled 🤷‍♂️

It’s hard to keep up!

I haven’t been following much of the “news” lately. It’s too depressing to see the O’Biden administration dismantle this country and turn it into a Third World country. It’s painful to watch any of those corrupt pieces of shyt even speak. Very sad times..
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I just cant wait until they finally cancel cancel.
 
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