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Alright boys I've decided to combine the two threads and give you guys an update. My anxiety is getting worse and I'm also getting more horny this is actually really hilarious. So I been getting this numbness on the side of my face is a very specific location which made me think I was having a stroke but it didn't really make any sense so I went to an urgent care clinic and just talked to a nurse without admitting myself because I knew that 99% I was just insane. She told me that you don't have a mild stroke that lasts for days and comes and goes. You are either having a stroke or not LOL so I'm assuming it's some kind of nerve or muscle twitch thing related to me being so amped up. In terms of positive effects all my lifts are much stronger and my pumps in the gym are great. I'm also noticing that when I'm not drinking coffee the anxiety is tolerable. after my coffee is when it gets bad and if I drink too much coffee it's almost unbearable so the logical thing to do would be cut caffeine but unfortunately I can't live without coffee even if it makes me insane right now so I need to figure out how to lower my caffeine intake and still be satisfied. I would like to remind you all that I'm only on 25 mg of anavar per day on top of a 200 mg testosterone replacement dose of testosterone. It is absolutely incredible what a nut case I am and I would also like to add that if you have a good source and you're getting actual real anavar this stuff is pretty potent. CBL and L-theanine for anxiety. I was going to go to the gym and do legs tonight but I only slept four hours last night due to some stuff I had to do and when I was getting ready to go to the gym I bent over to tie my show and my abs cramped up super bad signifying that im dehydrated. I'll sleep early and hit some squats tomorrow. Also my blood pressure is slightly elevated around 130s140s/80-90 but when I take deep breaths and try to calm myself sometimes I can get it in the normal range so I think the borderline high blood pressure is due to me being cranked up. Thoughts? 🤣
 

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You’re overthinking this , man lol. The bp was probably high due to you stressing out . I always get weird sensations, cramps, etc. now , I just ignore it. Are you doing cardio? That really helps with everything
 
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You’re overthinking this , man lol. The bp was probably high due to you stressing out . I always get weird sensations, cramps, etc. now , I just ignore it. Are you doing cardio? That really helps with everything
Stairmaster 15mins 4x a week. I was doing burpees but my coach and I are trying to do like a very slow lean bulk so he wants the cardio to be light. Yeah man I am totally bananas right now LOL
 

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Stairmaster 15mins 4x a week. I was doing burpees but my coach and I are trying to do like a very slow lean bulk so he wants the cardio to be light. Yeah man I am totally bananas right now LOL
try to just breathe and PRAY. Whenever you’re feeling ancy just take a step back and try to shut off your mind and switch to thoughts that are positive. Pray man, God is in control... fear is of the devil
 
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Were you doing more cardio before you started the Var? It sounds like you are just experiencing an energy increase and you need to burn it off. You gotta work through those pumps, because they won't get better. The lumbar fascia pumps for me were unreal on Var. I was squirming around on the floor trying to roll them out nearly crying. Then I learned to just push through.
 
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Were you doing more cardio before you started the Var? It sounds like you are just experiencing an energy increase and you need to burn it off. You gotta work through those pumps, because they won't get better. The lumbar fascia pumps for me were unreal on Var. I was squirming around on the floor trying to roll them out nearly crying. Then I learned to just push through.
Yeah man I definitely have an overall heightened energy that's for sure. I remember my doctor told me that anabolics stimulate the sympathetic nervous system so that means if I got anxiety it will make it worse. Add some extra coffee to the mix and no bueno. But man I'm feeling strong on this. I wish it didn't make me so nuts lol
 
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Have you tried meditation? It takes some time to learn, but can really be helpful for anxiety and just general ease of mind and focus.

And generally with panic attacks the first thing is to realise and fully accept that it's mostly mental. Even if it's triggered and made worse with a substance and it does raise your heart rate and makes you swet and all that, it's still the "fight or flight" stress response in your brain and you CAN control it, or at least tame it down. I've read a lot about it since I induced a bad one for myself years ago with a bad experince with some illegal recreational drugs. I read about these courses where they teach people to handle them and there they intentionally induce these attacks to the 'patients', so they can learn to control it or tame it down. For me the biggest help was to understand that I'm not in danger of dying or anything. I still get those attacks some times and I guess I'm susceptible to them for the rest of my life, but I've learned to 'walk them off'. I'm not saying it's easy or 'just chill brah' or want to belittle your experiences or anything. I know it's a bit different for everyone as is the magnitude of the anxiety, but I truly believe the mental control is the key and the number one thing. The first time I got it and had no idea wtf it's all about, I seriously thought I'm going to have a heart attack and went to the hospital.

You can learn to battle it, I have no doubt.
 
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Have you tried meditation? It takes some time to learn, but can really be helpful for anxiety and just general ease of mind and focus.

And generally with panic attacks the first thing is to realise and fully accept that it's mostly mental. Even if it's triggered and made worse with a substance and it does raise your heart rate and makes you swet and all that, it's still the "fight or flight" stress response in your brain and you CAN control it, or at least tame it down. I've read a lot about it since I induced a bad one for myself years ago with a bad experince with some illegal recreational drugs. I read about these courses where they teach people to handle them and there they intentionally induce these attacks to the 'patients', so they can learn to control it or tame it down. For me the biggest help was to understand that I'm not in danger of dying or anything. I still get those attacks some times and I guess I'm susceptible to them for the rest of my life, but I've learned to 'walk them off'. I'm not saying it's easy or 'just chill brah' or want to belittle your experiences or anything. I know it's a bit different for everyone as is the magnitude of the anxiety, but I truly believe the mental control is the key and the number one thing. The first time I got it and had no idea wtf it's all about, I seriously thought I'm going to have a heart attack and went to the hospital.

You can learn to battle it, I have no doubt.
The worst thing in my situation is not panic attacks. It's more like one big long lasting moderate panic attack. Imagine feeling dizzy when you walk and light headed and **** like that and then freaking out because you feel that way lol it sucks
 
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The worst thing in my situation is not panic attacks. It's more like one big long lasting moderate panic attack. Imagine feeling dizzy when you walk and light headed and **** like that and then freaking out because you feel that way lol it sucks
Well the symptoms are somewhat individual, but that prescription sounds pretty common. My first and worst lasted many hours full on, before I went to the hospital. I also got a benzo from my friend on the way and it probably playd a part, but when I got to the nurses and they told me to breathe and relax and all that and I realised that I made it to the hospital and if you ever gonna have a heart attack, this is the place for it. And so it kind of went away.

That dizzyness still happens to me sometimes and I feel like I'm about to pass out. That happened to me when I took Rad-140. From the first dose. Thing that helps me in those situations is to get out or somewhere where there's people, so I know if I collapse, someone will probably come to help and I won't just lay there to my death, lol.

But anyway, meditation, mind control and understanding/believing you can control it and not vice versa is something I would advice to anyone suffering from anxiety to try to master or at least give it a shot.
 
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Alright boys I've decided to combine the two threads and give you guys an update. My anxiety is getting worse and I'm also getting more horny this is actually really hilarious. So I been getting this numbness on the side of my face is a very specific location which made me think I was having a stroke but it didn't really make any sense so I went to an urgent care clinic and just talked to a nurse without admitting myself because I knew that 99% I was just insane. She told me that you don't have a mild stroke that lasts for days and comes and goes. You are either having a stroke or not LOL so I'm assuming it's some kind of nerve or muscle twitch thing related to me being so amped up. In terms of positive effects all my lifts are much stronger and my pumps in the gym are great. I'm also noticing that when I'm not drinking coffee the anxiety is tolerable. after my coffee is when it gets bad and if I drink too much coffee it's almost unbearable so the logical thing to do would be cut caffeine but unfortunately I can't live without coffee even if it makes me insane right now so I need to figure out how to lower my caffeine intake and still be satisfied. I would like to remind you all that I'm only on 25 mg of anavar per day on top of a 200 mg testosterone replacement dose of testosterone. It is absolutely incredible what a nut case I am and I would also like to add that if you have a good source and you're getting actual real anavar this stuff is pretty potent. CBL and L-theanine for anxiety. I was going to go to the gym and do legs tonight but I only slept four hours last night due to some stuff I had to do and when I was getting ready to go to the gym I bent over to tie my show and my abs cramped up super bad signifying that im dehydrated. I'll sleep early and hit some squats tomorrow. Also my blood pressure is slightly elevated around 130s140s/80-90 but when I take deep breaths and try to calm myself sometimes I can get it in the normal range so I think the borderline high blood pressure is due to me being cranked up. Thoughts? 🤣
As I've already talked about in your other thread; androgens substantially upregulate your adrenergic (fight or flight) system. Caffeine also has a direct impact on this system. What you need is to calm it down. Propranolol, trazadone, GABA-ergic substances like kava kava, phenibut, benzos ... Be careful with the latter though, as anything benzo related is addictive and hard to get off of.

Freaking dont drink coffee bro. I know exactly what you're describing. If you need caffeine get yourself some guarana. Not extract but powdered guarana seeds. It's very important that you dont buy the extract, because that is almost the same as drinking caffeine directly. Guarana has caffeine in it, but due to it being bound up to other stuff it takes time to it being released. This means a much gradual curve. You'll like it very much and you can replace straight up caffeine with it completely. Just dont drink it to late in the afternoon as you wont sleep to good.
 

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What brand are your Anavar and where did you get it from? My first thought is that it’s something else than Var because it sounds too good to be true, lol! I’m a little more than 4 weeks in on 40mg Pharmacy Var and I got nothing from it so far, I just raised it to 80 in hopes to get something out of it...
 
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What brand are your Anavar and where did you get it from? My first thought is that it’s something else than Var because it sounds too good to be true, lol! I’m a little more than 4 weeks in on 40mg Pharmacy Var and I got nothing from it so far, I just raised it to 80 in hopes to get something out of it...
My coach has a guy who makes it. Homebrew word of mouth stuff made specifically for clients only 😎
 
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As I've already talked about in your other thread; androgens substantially upregulate your adrenergic (fight or flight) system. Caffeine also has a direct impact on this system. What you need is to calm it down. Propranolol, trazadone, GABA-ergic substances like kava kava, phenibut, benzos ... Be careful with the latter though, as anything benzo related is addictive and hard to get off of.

Freaking dont drink coffee bro. I know exactly what you're describing. If you need caffeine get yourself some guarana. Not extract but powdered guarana seeds. It's very important that you dont buy the extract, because that is almost the same as drinking caffeine directly. Guarana has caffeine in it, but due to it being bound up to other stuff it takes time to it being released. This means a much gradual curve. You'll like it very much and you can replace straight up caffeine with it completely. Just dont drink it to late in the afternoon as you wont sleep to good.
As I've already talked about in your other thread; androgens substantially upregulate your adrenergic (fight or flight) system. Caffeine also has a direct impact on this system. What you need is to calm it down. Propranolol, trazadone, GABA-ergic substances like kava kava, phenibut, benzos ... Be careful with the latter though, as anything benzo related is addictive and hard to get off of.

Freaking dont drink coffee bro. I know exactly what you're describing. If you need caffeine get yourself some guarana. Not extract but powdered guarana seeds. It's very important that you dont buy the extract, because that is almost the same as drinking caffeine directly. Guarana has caffeine in it, but due to it being bound up to other stuff it takes time to it being released. This means a much gradual curve. You'll like it very much and you can replace straight up caffeine with it completely. Just dont drink it to late in the afternoon as you wont sleep to good.
So today instead of drinking the maxwell house bold roast I usually make, I had this german coffee my friend gave me that's actually less strong. Also when I make my coffee I fill the basket with coffee grounds all the way to the top. Today I only filled the basket to 50%. I have some anxiety today but man it is so much less than yesterday. I feel generally ok to the point where I can deal with this. I absolutely crushed legs today too! Haven't had such an awesome workout in a really long time. I was fucking smashing it cranking out 80s hair metal 🤣
 

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My coach has a guy who makes it. Homebrew word of mouth stuff made specifically for clients only 😎
It could be real but most likely something else, unless your less than 100lb or a girl you won’t get those sides as you getting of 25mg Var. But, as long as you get the desired results it doesn’t matter I guess, just don’t think you’re taking Anavar.
 
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It could be real but most likely something else, unless your less than 100lb or a girl you won’t get those sides as you getting of 25mg Var. But, as long as you get the desired results it doesn’t matter I guess, just don’t think you’re taking Anavar though.
This dude is ifbb and makes sure the clients are on real var due to protocols for show prep. If ur a week or two out from a show and your taking dbol when u think it's var it's gonna ruin everything and this guy's name is behind everything. It's legit, also this isint my first rodeo so you can take off the fedora now 🤣
 

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This dude is ifbb and makes sure the clients are on real var due to protocols for show prep. If ur a week or two out from a show and your taking dbol when u think it's var it's gonna ruin everything and this guy's name is behind everything. It's legit, also this isint my first rodeo so you can take off the fedora now 🤣
wtf you talking about nerd, you ask a bunch of weird questions and I was just trying to help out, I’m not saying your **** is fake, I just say that from what you’re experiencing it’s doesn’t sound like Var and don’t feel special nerd boy, you’re not the only one training or getting gear from a IFBB pro.
 

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You’re overthinking this , man lol. The bp was probably high due to you stressing out . I always get weird sensations, cramps, etc. now , I just ignore it. Are you doing cardio? That really helps with everything
how much and what kind of cardio do you do tuna?
 
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BBiceps exploded on me to not long ago, for no reason rly. Used also the same rhetoric "nerd" XD Haha it's all good. But apparently there's a lot of nerds on AM ... Who would have thought ...
With you I “might” have overreacted a little bit (I misunderstood what you wrote), but OP was being disrespectful for no reason when I tried to help out. OP might have the most reliable source in the world but a source is only as good as his last batch. OP have to understand that even if the source “thinks” his raws is 100% it might be something different because I can guarantee that the raws is coming from China and I doubt that the source testing it before he sells it. I’m not saying that this is the case this time but from the sides OP describing it doesn’t sound like 25mg of Anavar.

Anyone that have been in contact with me over the years knows I’m respectful and helpful normally, oh, and btw, OP is 100% a nerd 😉
 
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OP was being disrespectful for no reason when I tried to help out. OP might have the most reliable source in the world but a source is only as good as his last batch. OP have to understand that even if the source “thinks” his raws is 100% it might be something different because I can guarantee that the raws is coming from China and I doubt that the source testing it before he sells it. I’m not saying that this is the case this time but from the sides OP describing it doesn’t sound like 25mg of Anavar.
I agree completely, was to lazy to write something similar. I'd also add that he could also be selling shitty gear to him and keeping the verified proper gear for him and other more high profile clients. But in any case, what he wrote was lawl "He is an IFFBpro yada yada".

oh, and btw, OP is 100% a nerd 😉
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With you I “might” have overreacted a little bit (I misunderstood what you wrote), but OP was being disrespectful for no reason when I tried to help out. OP might have the most reliable source in the world but a source is only as good as his last batch. OP have to understand that even if the source “thinks” his raws is 100% it might be something different because I can guarantee that the raws is coming from China and I doubt that the source testing it before he sells it. I’m not saying that this is the case this time but from the sides OP describing it doesn’t sound like 25mg of Anavar.

Anyone that have been in contact with me over the years knows I’m respectful and helpful normally, oh, and btw, OP is 100% a nerd 😉
Listen bro I am a nerd. I am also mentally ill so I truly believe that this **** is just irritating my already horrible anxiety, and yeah maybe ur right maybe it could be fake anavar. Whatever I'm using is making me extremely strong in the gym, anxious and my libido has increased substantially. I am not getting any kind of acne whatsoever and Im not getting bloated or puffy so I think it's safe to assume that whatever I'm on is at least something that isint converting to estrogen. Right?

Oh and calm your tits. How many holes did you punch in your wall before you replied to me 🤣
 
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Listen bro I am a nerd. I am also mentally ill so I truly believe that this **** is just irritating my already horrible anxiety, and yeah maybe ur right maybe it could be fake anavar. Whatever I'm using is making me extremely strong in the gym, anxious and my libido has increased substantially. I am not getting any kind of acne whatsoever and Im not getting bloated or puffy so I think it's safe to assume that whatever I'm on is at least something that isint converting to estrogen. Right?

Oh and calm your tits. How many holes did you punch in your wall before you replied to me 🤣
@BBiceps is right though bro. Your guy could easily have raws that aren’t what they are meant to be. It is unlikely he’s testing every batch he gets and it’s happened to the likes of pred nutrition before, so if a massive retailer can be caught out with bunk raws then your mate brewing in his kitchen sure as **** can be.

that’s just part of this game. He probably 100% believes what he has is legit but var being winny is common as hell and would give you the same strength gains for example........
 

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Listen bro I am a nerd. I am also mentally ill so I truly believe that this **** is just irritating my already horrible anxiety, and yeah maybe ur right maybe it could be fake anavar. Whatever I'm using is making me extremely strong in the gym, anxious and my libido has increased substantially. I am not getting any kind of acne whatsoever and Im not getting bloated or puffy so I think it's safe to assume that whatever I'm on is at least something that isint converting to estrogen. Right?

Oh and calm your tits. How many holes did you punch in your wall before you replied to me 🤣
Great, a mentally ill nerd taking bathtub roids, what made you think that was a good idea?

Naw, I save the hole punching to your face if ever run in to your delusional ass.
 
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Great, a mentally ill nerd taking bathtub roids, what made you think that was a good idea?

Naw, I save the hole punching to your face if ever run in to your delusional ass.
OOoOoO keyboard warrior. Anyway you think it could be winstrol then? If it's not in fact anavar? And please don't beat me up big scary internet man!
 
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@BBiceps is right though bro. Your guy could easily have raws that aren’t what they are meant to be. It is unlikely he’s testing every batch he gets and it’s happened to the likes of pred nutrition before, so if a massive retailer can be caught out with bunk raws then your mate brewing in his kitchen sure as **** can be.

that’s just part of this game. He probably 100% believes what he has is legit but var being winny is common as hell and would give you the same strength gains for example........
Well whatever I'm on, it's been 2 weeks and I been using 1ml per day oral liquid. I haven't gained much weight but I see it in the mirror. My shoulders and traps are popping and im strong af at the gym. Whatever I got Is definitely doing it's job
 
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Buy a grounding mat for your bed. Will help with recovery and anxiety from my experience.
No affiliation just think products are quality:



But seriously why are you juicing when your mental health is out of alignment? Obviously not what you want to hear but is your looks more important than being happy in life?
 
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Buy a grounding mat for your bed. Will help with recovery and anxiety from my experience.
No affiliation just think products are quality:



But seriously why are you juicing when your mental health is out of alignment? Obviously not what you want to hear but is your looks more important than being happy in life?
Yes. My looks are that important to me that I'm willing to sacrifice my mental health for it. Isint that what bodybuilding is all about? 😂
 

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Anyway you think it could be winstrol then? If it's not in fact anavar?
It’s no way to know unless you send it for testing, I get it, it’s fun to get the results you’re getting but I would stop using it if I got those sides you’re getting because you don’t really know what you’re taking.

For reference, everyone is different, but I’m taking 80mg of Var right now and not getting any sides, you should not get any either (especially) on 25mg.
 
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It’s no way to know unless you send it for testing, I get it, it’s fun to get the results you’re getting but I would stop using it if I got those sides you’re getting because you don’t really know what you’re taking.

For reference, everyone is different, but I’m taking 80mg of Var right now and not getting any sides, you should not get any either (especially) on 25mg.
I hear you bro however literally everything gives me these sides. Dbol, epistane DMZ so I wouldn't be surprised if it was legit. If I drink too much coffee I get sides. It's more me than it is the drugs whatever I'm taking
 
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Yes. My looks are that important to me that I'm willing to sacrifice my mental health for it. Isint that what bodybuilding is all about? 😂
honestly bro, nope not for me anyway. Doesn’t matter how you look if mentally you’re struggling. Happiness starts in the head......

if everything you take makes you feel like this maybe look at other avenues (peptides for example) or the natural biohacking stuff (I do a lot of that as well).

there’s more than one way to skin a cat, you just need the right set of knives
 
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honestly bro, nope not for me anyway. Doesn’t matter how you look if mentally you’re struggling. Happiness starts in the head......

if everything you take makes you feel like this maybe look at other avenues (peptides for example) or the natural biohacking stuff (I do a lot of that as well).

there’s more than one way to skin a cat, you just need the right set of knives
Yeah I mean if what I'm on is not in fact anavar, it's definitely some type of oral anabolic because I've used oral anabolics enough times to know how they make me feel. Increase energy a ton of strength in the gym good pumps etc etc the wacky feelings of anxiety which I always have anyway in my day-to-day life are just increased. however as I'm getting older it seems to be progressing because I remember doing this like five six years ago and it wasn't as bad as it is now but that's life I guess.
 
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Back in the day, I didn't need to be on anything to be anxious, or cranked-up.
Thankfully that changed over the years.
Now I almost never feel anxious (even) as a side effect.

* Note for the newer guys reading this, IMO/IME ... most guys will get Some kind of sides from 80mg of (real) Var.
That's a Lot of Real Anavar.
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Back in the day, I didn't need to be on anything to be anxious, or cranked-up.
Thankfully that changed over the years.
Now I almost never feel anxious (even) as a side effect.

* Note for the newer guys reading this, IMO/IME ... most guys will get Some kind of sides from 80mg of (real) Var.
That's a Lot of Real Anavar.
:)
Yeah man. Also for me as a TRT guy, if I increase my trt I can feel a difference. When I went from 200mg to 300mg suddenly I couldn't handle coffee anymore. So yeah it's probably odd to get sides from 25mg of var. But then again most people aren't me lol
 

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Back in the day, I didn't need to be on anything to be anxious, or cranked-up.
Thankfully that changed over the years.
Now I almost never feel anxious (even) as a side effect.

* Note for the newer guys reading this, IMO/IME ... most guys will get Some kind of sides from 80mg of (real) Var.
That's a Lot of Real Anavar.
:)
Yeah I should of have included that I’m not a good responder to Var, unfortunately... ☹
But, at least now when I raised it to 80 something is finally starting to happen 🙂
 
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Yeah I should of have included that I’m not a good responder to Var, unfortunately... ☹
But, at least now when I raised it to 80 something is finally starting to happen 🙂
How much are u paying for your var? 80mg a day sounds expensive. Last time I got real anavar from a compound pharmacy I was paying $10 per 50mg capsule
 

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How much are u paying for your var? 80mg a day sounds expensive. Last time I got real anavar from a compound pharmacy I was paying $10 per 50mg capsule
$240 for 60 40mg pills, it was the cheapest pharmacy I found in my area, but yeah, definitely not the cheapest cycle.
 
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$240 for 60 40mg pills, it was the cheapest pharmacy I found in my area, but yeah, definitely not the cheapest cycle.
The last time I used anavar was when I did that expensive cycle. I was using 50 mg per a day but I was only taking one capsule per day. I was not getting crazy anxiety like this when I was on it however this was probably 5 years ago and five years ago in general my anxiety was not as bad I also think I did not dose it properly and I should have been taking smaller doses of the anavar 3 times a day. Ah well. Over the summer I took dbol and got the same anxiety I have now but grew alot bigger. I think next time I'm just gonna take dbol. No matter what I take it makes me crazy so might as well get the most gains out of it lol
 
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Yeah I mean if what I'm on is not in fact anavar, it's definitely some type of oral anabolic because I've used oral anabolics enough times to know how they make me feel. Increase energy a ton of strength in the gym good pumps etc etc the wacky feelings of anxiety which I always have anyway in my day-to-day life are just increased. however as I'm getting older it seems to be progressing because I remember doing this like five six years ago and it wasn't as bad as it is now but that's life I guess.
You missed @Whisky 's point entirely lawl
 

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I’m currently 3 weeks in running 50mg var a day and doubling my TRT dose to 400/week. I’m not getting the anxiety at all, but libido is lower than I expected.

I’ve been suspicious that it’s not actually var the whole time. It came from a legit source, in pharma bottles with a scratch off code to verify. The source also claims to be a supplier for IFBB pros too.

I’ve always been lean and any anabolics strip off whatever fat I have and I look diced. I was somewhat afraid to run var thinking I would look too cut - it’s going the other way though, I’m adding lean mass and looking less cut. I’m seeing a mild strength improvement at week 3. I guess I expected more strength gains and cuts by now. We’ll see how the next tree weeks go.
 
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