Ursa Major, topicals and moisturizer

JeremyNG25

JeremyNG25

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I’m just wondering if and when I can apply moisturizer over the Ursa Major in using. I imagine it would only further enhance absorption correct??
 
nostrum420 said:
Once the product has dried you can/should apply moisturizer.
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UR spray is a staple of mine. I’ve been using it for a long time. The thermogenesis effect that I used to experience I don’t experience anymore when using it. Yesterday I dosed 2 ML Ursa Major am and 1 ml pm. During my workout I was legit sweating my ass off. Felt like UR spray when I first started using it. What do you think is happening here? Is the Na version stronger? Did I build a tolerance to the arginine acetate version? It’s so weird man I can’t figure it out
 
JeremyNG25 said:
UR spray is a staple of mine. I’ve been using it for a long time. The thermogenesis effect that I used to experience I don’t experience anymore when using it. Yesterday I dosed 2 ML Ursa Major am and 1 ml pm. During my workout I was legit sweating my ass off. Felt like UR spray when I first started using it. What do you think is happening here? Is the Na version stronger? Did I build a tolerance to the arginine acetate version? It’s so weird man I can’t figure it out
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I think the Apex version is more concentrated and the application process is easier to apply than the Prototype version. Yes, I've tried both. I prefer Apex.
 
BigGame84 said:
I think the Apex version is more concentrated and the application process is easier to apply than the Prototype version. Yes, I've tried both. I prefer Apex.
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I believe with transdermal you need the concentrated amount in a dropper vs the spray.
 
JeremyNG25 said:
UR spray is a staple of mine. I’ve been using it for a long time. The thermogenesis effect that I used to experience I don’t experience anymore when using it. Yesterday I dosed 2 ML Ursa Major am and 1 ml pm. During my workout I was legit sweating my ass off. Felt like UR spray when I first started using it. What do you think is happening here? Is the Na version stronger? Did I build a tolerance to the arginine acetate version? It’s so weird man I can’t figure it out
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Ursa Major uses sodium Usolate. iirc this analogue is more potent *** NOS may have some input.. Also as with anything, a tolerance has likely been built up to the UR spray.
 
JeremyNG25 said:
UR spray is a staple of mine. I’ve been using it for a long time. The thermogenesis effect that I used to experience I don’t experience anymore when using it. Yesterday I dosed 2 ML Ursa Major am and 1 ml pm. During my workout I was legit sweating my ass off. Felt like UR spray when I first started using it. What do you think is happening here? Is the Na version stronger? Did I build a tolerance to the arginine acetate version? It’s so weird man I can’t figure it out
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A milligram of Na-UA will have more UA than Arg-UA-Ace. So, you may be getting more UA in your system using Ursa Major. It's also possible that the more highly concentrated product is diffusing faster. Last but not least, the sodium salt is likely a bit more water soluble making it easier to transport through the bloodstream. So, again, faster diffusion which means faster tissue saturation and a more acute effect.
 
nostrum420 said:
A milligram of Na-UA will have more UA than Arg-UA-Ace. So, you may be getting more UA in your system using Ursa Major. It's also possible that the more highly concentrated product is diffusing faster. Last but not least, the sodium salt is likely a bit more water soluble making it easier to transport through the bloodstream. So, again, faster diffusion which means faster tissue saturation and a more acute effect.
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There’s only one Ursa Major in stock. Any idea when more will be in stock. Wanted to snag up 4 more bottles. Picked up the last one but I’m going to run through these pretty quick
 
JeremyNG25 said:
There’s only one Ursa Major in stock. Any idea when more will be in stock. Wanted to snag up 4 more bottles. Picked up the last one but I’m going to run through these pretty quick
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I'll look at making more this week.
 
nostrum420 said:
I'll look at making more this week.
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I’m not sure if this is possible or would even work but what about using Helios as a localized anti inflammatory by changing the skin penetrator? For example I have a lot of scare tissue buildup on my calves from running over the years. I go to PT every spring to get ART and dry needling done. This works but when those areas become inflamed I’m out of commission for a while. An OTC muscle rub does nothing. This year I’m going to give cannabis rub a try. Thoughts?
 
JKVol said:
I’m not sure if this is possible or would even work but what about using Helios as a localized anti inflammatory by changing the skin penetrator? For example I have a lot of scare tissue buildup on my calves from running over the years. I go to PT every spring to get ART and dry needling done. This works but when those areas become inflamed I’m out of commission for a while. An OTC muscle rub does nothing. This year I’m going to give cannabis rub a try. Thoughts?
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I'm sure Nos will be back to give the most informed answer, but if I were you, I'd certainly try it (as is) when you're having inflammation issues.
 
Renew1 said:
I'm sure Nos will be back to give the most informed answer, but if I were you, I'd certainly try it (as is) when you're having inflammation issues.
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I use it now at 1ml a day since you all brought it back.
 
Renew1 said:
It's currently the best thing for inflammation that I can think of.

Nos certainly knows his stuff!
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Considering that I prefer NOS ursolic acid over Patrick Arnold’s speaks volumes about what NOS can do..I mean he’s competing with the best
 
JKVol said:
I’m not sure if this is possible or would even work but what about using Helios as a localized anti inflammatory by changing the skin penetrator? For example I have a lot of scare tissue buildup on my calves from running over the years. I go to PT every spring to get ART and dry needling done. This works but when those areas become inflamed I’m out of commission for a while. An OTC muscle rub does nothing. This year I’m going to give cannabis rub a try. Thoughts?
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Like Renew said, you could apply it as is, directly to the calves. I apply it directly to my lower back and it seems to help a bit more when I do.

That being said, I could look at making a cream version which would, in theory, keep the active more localized.
 
I want every Apex Alchemy product I’ve been very impressed with Ursa Major. The mood boost is worth it alone for me!
 
Just got 2 bottles of Ursa Major!!! Now I just need to find the perfect real estate on my body to apply (I'm already using 3 other transdermals)
 
JeremyNG25 said:
There’s only one Ursa Major in stock. Any idea when more will be in stock. Wanted to snag up 4 more bottles. Picked up the last one but I’m going to run through these pretty quick
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Hey brother, Ursa Major is back in stock!

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Get it, brothers! (y)
 
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