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Is trestolone safer than nandrolone and trembolone?

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Again 200mg was a no go for me.
 
Burnfire said:
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Again 200mg was a no go for me.
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Thing about dosages is people get this idea that if some is good, more is better, but steroids just don’t rise linearly with dose. I have heard it proposed that every time you double the dose you get about 25% more actual results. You can only grow so fast. And you can only handle so much before the sides become counterproductive to growth and recovery - the body gets too busy dealing with the excess drug metabolism and all the havoc it’s causing.

How much better is 500mg of Tren going to be from 250mg/wk? Certainly better, but not double, not even close. And how much a gram vs 500? And nobody really does 2 grams, because 1g/wk is already such diminished returns.

There was one guy on Reddit that had used 9,000mg of test/wk, but he said it really was only probably 20% better than 4-4,500mg for him, so that’s what he stays with. Talking absurd doses here, but a good illustration.
 
Hyde said:
Thing about dosages is people get this idea that if some is good, more is better, but steroids just don’t rise linearly with dose. I have heard it proposed that every time you double the dose you get about 25% more actual results. You can only grow so fast. And you can only handle so much before the sides become counterproductive to growth and recovery - the body gets too busy dealing with the excess drug metabolism and all the havoc it’s causing.

How much better is 500mg of Tren going to be from 250mg/wk? Certainly better, but not double, not even close. And how much a gram vs 500? And nobody really does 2 grams, because 1g/wk is already such diminished returns.

There was one guy on Reddit that had used 9,000mg of test/wk, but he said it really was only probably 20% better than 4-4,500mg for him, so that’s what he stays with. Talking absurd doses here, but a good illustration.
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Absurd doses are needed for some advanced guys who are competing at a high level. I love reading logs on places like gh15 where people are much bigger than I'll ever be. 250 mg/week tren is great for guys who are doing this as a hobby. 1050 or 1400 mg/week is great for some guys who are already at the elite level.

I can't handle high doses of anything. I'm happy with low doses. I think part of the genetics required to compete in high level bodybuilding involves the ability to tolerate high doses.
 
Burnfire said:
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Again 200mg was a no go for me.
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Did you mean 200 mg of the transdermal or oral? That would make more sense. I've mostly just used injectable trest acetate, enanthate, and decanoate. 200 mg/day of even the decanoate seems really high.
 
mw314159 said:
Absurd doses are needed for some advanced guys who are competing at a high level. I love reading logs on places like gh15 where people are much bigger than I'll ever be. 250 mg/week tren is great for guys who are doing this as a hobby. 1050 or 1400 mg/week is great for some guys who are already at the elite level.

I can't handle high doses of anything. I'm happy with low doses. I think part of the genetics required to compete in high level bodybuilding involves the ability to tolerate high doses.
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at that level there is also a huge trade off between health and success. If it’s how you make your money or what you want to be remembered for then fair play but personally I think most of us want that balance where we mitigate long term negative health impact whilst still looking better than average .....

just from a pure stressor standpoint the impact on on the body at that level is massive
 
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Whisky said:
at that level there is also a huge trade off between health and success. If it’s how you make your money or what you want to be remembered for then fair play but personally I think most of us want that balance where we mitigate long term negative health impact whilst still looking better than average .....

just from a pure stressor standpoint the impact on on the body at
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Yeah, there's nothing healthy about competing at the elite level in bodybuilding or powerlifting. I'm jealous of the guys who can, but I've always been a low dose guy. I'm doing this as a hobby and for a better quality of life.
 
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1400/week??
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I've seen several logs on gh15 where guys are doing 200 mg/day tren ace. Some of them have had excellent results. I can't handle even 50 mg/day tren for more than a few weeks, and I'm 6'3" / 240.

I've also seen logs with 2000 mg/week primo, 3000 mg/week EQ, 5000 mg/week test, etc. Those doses are impossible for most guys.
 
mw314159 said:
Absurd doses are needed for some advanced guys who are competing at a high level. I love reading logs on places like gh15 where people are much bigger than I'll ever be. 250 mg/week tren is great for guys who are doing this as a hobby. 1050 or 1400 mg/week is great for some guys who are already at the elite level.

I can't handle high doses of anything. I'm happy with low doses. I think part of the genetics required to compete in high level bodybuilding involves the ability to tolerate high doses.
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Not necessarily to tolerate high doses - it’s genetics period. Dorian was historically a rather low dose guy. Lee Priest extremely low. Where as Ronnie Coleman was rumored to have really been able to handle some stuff, and Nasser was very open about his terrific doses.

Then look at powerlifting and Greg Panora set world records on 500mg test and Dbol every other day (his bottle was given to him free & he wanted to make it last because he was living out of his car at Westside). Chris Duffin’s rumored cycles were posted on a forum signed KW (Kabuki Warrior) that totaled like 7 grams. But he also had some decent strength success just with prohormone cycles he logged right here on this forum earlier on.

So I guess what I am saying is: SOME guys need huge doses to maximize potential, while others are just destined for greatness regardless.
 
Hyde said:
Not necessarily to tolerate high doses - it’s genetics period. Dorian was historically a rather low dose guy. Lee Priest extremely low. Where as Ronnie Coleman was rumored to have really been able to handle some stuff, and Nasser was very open about his terrific doses.

Then look at powerlifting and Greg Panora set world records on 500mg test and Dbol every other day (his bottle was given to him free & he wanted to make it last because he was living out of his car at Westside). Chris Duffin’s rumored cycles were posted on a forum signed KW (Kabuki Warrior) that totaled like 7 grams. But he also had some decent strength success just with prohormone cycles he logged right here on this forum earlier on.

So I guess what I am saying is: SOME guys need huge doses to maximize potential, while others are just destined for greatness regardless.
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i remember kabuki, he was friends with @Chuck Diesel and used a lot of chuck's stuff-really good guy, imo!!!
 
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This could be trest burning dopaminergic pathways, more than the suppressive effect. Trestolone at high dose isn't safe anyways, like any AAS, and studies usually look at doses just enough to suppress spermatogenesis.
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I think you raise a good point here as I think that might be what’s going on with myself. When I take gear now I’m not getting that blast of horniness I have always gotten. I’ve been clean for a bit and started at low level of test and zero morning wood. I think you may be on to something. Anything that can be done about that?
 
shanewilliams said:
I think you raise a good point here as I think that might be what’s going on with myself. When I take gear now I’m not getting that blast of horniness I have always gotten. I’ve been clean for a bit and started at low level of test and zero morning wood. I think you may be on to something. Anything that can be done about that?
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If AAS at high doses cause some kind of anhedonia, like dopaminergic drugs, perhaps memantine could help. If your issue is hormonal and doesn't get better, get into TRT.
 
UNX said:
If AAS at high doses cause some kind of anhedonia, like dopaminergic drugs, perhaps memantine could help. If your issue is hormonal and doesn't get better, get into TRT.
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**** I just read up on the drug and I think I might try it but can I get that without a script anywhere,? Any sponsors carry that?
 
shanewilliams said:
**** I just read up on the drug and I think I might try it but can I get that without a script anywhere,? Any sponsors carry that?
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I don't know the legal status in the USA, keep in mind that it's a strong drug with a long half life. I don't know other alternatives for anhedonia, perhaps L-Dopa could help with libido.
 
Yea I know about them and I believe I tried cymbalta. I have serious anxiety/depression issues and have been on and off different drugs since May. I’ve used probably every SSRI and literally right now am filling out a PCQ-9 to try to get approved for another treatment of TMS. It worked great in 2019 but I tried it again in June and it did nothing. I definitely understand and appreciate your thread.
 
shanewilliams said:
I think you raise a good point here as I think that might be what’s going on with myself. When I take gear now I’m not getting that blast of horniness I have always gotten. I’ve been clean for a bit and started at low level of test and zero morning wood. I think you may be on to something. Anything that can be done about that?
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The last time I took trest it was towards the end of a cycle for "one last push". I recall being disappointed at the time and now when I look at pictures.. I was pretty darn big. I was also having libido issues. I couldn't tell you if that was estrogen or prolactin. Too many moving parts.

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Dad bod 2 girls later..
 
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