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Donald Trump running for president

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ax1 said:
Warning, put your tinfoil armor before reading this post:

Its psychops and it works. Its a war on your mind.

FYI, I seen the documents, they already had all returning vets on the DHS terrorist watchlist since the early Bareback Hussein Obobo era.
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Nothing tin foil hat about that. My wife's first MOS was psyop.
 
puccah8808 said:
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anyone notice that the media aren't playing trumps speech that allegedly started this 'coup' attempt?

if it truly was as incendiary as to be worthy of impeachment one would think they would be playing it non-stop?
 
Jiigzz said:
No you can't. Honestly go and try, I guarantee you couldn't do it.

They might be open to new people, but they still have to vote you in, so you'd have to demonstrate their values which i doubt any of us here are prepared to do.

Besides, using the Amish as an argument against a minimum wage is literally retarded. Most of us live in the real world where currency buys everything.

Let's not pretend singing kumbuyah is the solution to that issue.
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geez, almost every group has a set of rules you have to agree to abide by...i really expect better from you?

and besides i was only replying to your post that anyone can't become amish?
 
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I don't know the case at all, but it's important to read the file in context.

One of the first pages states that when they asked people what the evidence was based on, they found it to be hearsay and rumour.

I won't pretend powerful people can cover for other powerful people, but it's important to consider the context as well.

Sounds like he may have just had a good lawyer.

Was he actually guilty? Maybe. I don't know because there's no case evidence in the file and I don't really care. But I've seen this same link posted elsewhere and people are quick to draw from it the wrong conclusions

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thebigt said:
anyone notice that the media aren't playing trumps speech that allegedly started this 'coup' attempt?

if it truly was as incendiary as to be worthy of impeachment one would think they would be playing it non-stop?
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I listened to the whole thing live and was watching the Senate or congress hearings live as it all unfolded.

Only fox was playing Dumps speech on television out of all the networks, and on youtube a few alternative media were streaming it. You still should be able to find it on youtube easily.

Its really crazy how it all unfolded in real time.

I never had that feeling that the protestors were going to cause violence based off the speech. Thats my honest opinion.
 
ax1 said:
I listened to the whole thing live and was watching the Senate or congress hearings live as it all unfolded.

Only fox was playing Dumps speech on television out of all the networks, and on youtube a few alternative media were streaming it. You still should be able to find it on youtube easily.

Its really crazy how it all unfolded in real time.

I never had that feeling that the protestors were going to cause violence based off the speech. Thats my honest opinion.
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i totally agree with the last part---i just don't see it!!!
 
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This is a very compelling case that the vaccine doesn’t qualify as a vaccine and doesn’t shield DOD from liability under emergency use. It’s not a vaccine but gene therapy. It’s about population control. Mind blowing that the masses will not know any of this as they willingly line up for the jab.
 
THOR 70 said:
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This is a very compelling case that the vaccine doesn’t qualify as a vaccine and doesn’t shield DOD from liability under emergency use. It’s not a vaccine but gene therapy. It’s about population control. Mind blowing that the masses will not know any of this as they willingly line up for the jab.
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very interesting!!!

@Ricky10
 
THOR 70 said:
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This is a very compelling case that the vaccine doesn’t qualify as a vaccine and doesn’t shield DOD from liability under emergency use. It’s not a vaccine but gene therapy. It’s about population control. Mind blowing that the masses will not know any of this as they willingly line up for the jab.
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thebigt said:
very interesting!!!

@Ricky10
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The David Martin guy has been debunked lots of times. He is one of the names behind the "Plandemic."

The fact he said there are no sources that back wearing masks, despite numerous studies backing masks show how biased he is.
 
Jiigzz said:
The David Martin guy has been debunked lots of times. He is one of the names behind the "Plandemic."

The fact he said there are no sources that back wearing masks, despite numerous studies backing masks show how biased he is.
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If you watch the video he is literally reading laws and excerpts from two of the most prestigious medical journals in the world....
 
THOR 70 said:
If you watch the video he is literally reading laws and excerpts from two of the most prestigious medical journals in the world....
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THOR 70 said:
If you watch the video he is literally reading laws and excerpts from two of the most prestigious medical journals in the world....
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I like that the source he derives this one line from,

"As of this writing, no correlate of protection for SARS-CoV-2 has been established"

has the very next paragraph as this:

"However, neutralizing-antibody levels have been shown to correlate with protection against many viruses in humans14 and have correlated with protection against SARS-CoV-2 in animal challenges.3,15 The mRNA-1273 vaccine induced high levels of both binding and neutralizing antibodies in older adults, and the time- and dose-dependent trends were similar to responses in younger adults2; the responses after the second vaccination were similar to those observed in patients who had recovered from Covid-19 and had donated convalescent serum, including some who were severely ill."
 
FWIW the above is important because in the case of HIV, the presence of antibodies doesn't protect you from the virus. Hence a reason why a vaccine hasn't been developed yet.

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They state the following:

The immune correlates of protection are not yet defined for COVID-19, but neutralizing antibodies, especially those that recognize the viral receptor binding domain (RBD) and other epitopes on the spike protein that prevent subsequent angiotensin-converting enzyme II receptor binding, membrane fusion, and viral entry, is one path to immunity.
 
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My neighbor took down their American flag and put this up... 🤦🏻‍♀️

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FYI, they’re 1 of only 2 white families on the block.
 
It is also my understanding that the advertising part (reference 1) is meant to apply to dietary supplements.
 
Jiigzz said:
The David Martin guy has been debunked lots of times. He is one of the names behind the "Plandemic."

The fact he said there are no sources that back wearing masks, despite numerous studies backing masks show how biased he is.
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the cdc and who have been debunked several times also but you still find them credible-eh?
 
puccah8808 said:
My neighbor took down their American flag and put this up... 🤦🏻‍♀️

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FYI, they’re 1 of only 2 white families on the block.
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lol...it is dangerous to have a opposing viewpoint in california-eh?
 
Here is an addition to the above: "In addition, products that claim or imply the ability to mitigate, prevent, treat, diagnose or cure COVID-19 must be approved drugs under section 505(a) of the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act" and further "Under section 564 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act Invalid Link Removed), the FDA Commissioner may allow unapproved medical products or unapproved uses of approved medical products to be used in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions caused by CBRN threat agents when there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives."
 
thebigt said:
the cdc and who have been debunked several times also but you still find them credible-eh?
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Where have they been debunked?
 
Jiigzz said:
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The last reference, which has this line cited: "No existing vaccines have been shown to be effective against infection with any betacoronavirus, the family that includes SARS-CoV-2, which causes Covid-19. SARS, caused by another betacoronavirus" seemingly again misquotes because he somehow forgot to include this:

"Today we have part of the answer, and it is strongly encouraging. The vaccine BNT162b2 is a modified RNA that encodes a version of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein containing mutations that lock the protein into a conformation that can induce neutralizing antibody responses. Early clinical trials showed that it could induce both humoral and cellular immunity, although we did not know until now whether these responses would protect against symptomatic infection. "

"The results were impressive."
 
Jiigzz said:
Where have they been debunked?
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Masks, origin, precautions, seriousness, and etc. They have literally been wrong about everything from the beginning and have flip flopped, lied, and covered up for China. Yeah I trust The WHO and CDC about as much as a fart when I have diarrhea.
 
Jiigzz said:
Where have they been debunked?
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the cdc in march in march said wearing of masks was not helpful in preventing spread off covid....the who [at least the director] was caught in several falsehoods regarding china and covid, look it up.
 
dixonk said:
Masks, origin, precautions, seriousness, and etc. They have literally been wrong about everything from the beginning and have flip flopped, lied, and covered up for China. Yeah I trust The WHO and CDC about as much as a fart when I have diarrhea.
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and yet @Jiigzz will go down with ship defending their every word....talk about drinking the kool aid.


i am sure he will come back with yeah but trump.... :p
 
thebigt said:
and yet @Jiigzz will go down with ship defending their every word....talk about drinking the kool aid.


i am sure he will come back with yeah but trump.... :p
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No he will be one of the ones calling anyone that doesn’t soak up the bullsh*t lies and Covidiot logic as fact a sheep.
 
thebigt said:
the cdc in march in march said wearing of masks was not helpful in preventing spread off covid....the who [at least the director] was caught in several falsehoods regarding china and covid, look it up.
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Gotcha. They recanted that though. It is a novel virus remember, so all the answers weren't available at the beginning.

As the science evolves, so too do the recommendations. I'd be more upset if they held firm in the belief despite the evolved evidence
 
thebigt said:
i think he has od'd on the liberal kool aid.
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Care to comment on any of the above info I posted in regards to that Doctor?
 
dixonk said:
No he will be one of the ones calling anyone that doesn’t soak up the bullsh*t lies and Covidiot logic as fact a sheep.
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And yet, neither you or Big T have posted anything that actually refutes what I posted.

That was expected though, as soon as I actually read the evidence and post a rebuttal the response is always "you drink the koolaid" or "blah blah liberal blah".

The sheep are the people who endorse alternate views simply because they are alternate. If you never actually read the evidence that people cite to back their stance, then you are being the same sheep you accuse everyone else of being.
 
Jiigzz said:
Gotcha. They recanted that though. It is a novel virus remember, so all the answers weren't available at the beginning.

As the science evolves, so too do the recommendations. I'd be more upset if they held firm in the belief despite the evolved evidence
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are you kidding....doctors offices and ER's have had masks on hand for over a decade to prevent spread of virus's. the use of masks for virus prevention is well known and has been for a very long time!!!!

geez!!!!
 
Jiigzz said:
And yet, neither you or Big T have posted anything that actually refutes what I posted.

That was expected though, as soon as I actually read the evidence and post a rebuttal the response is always "you drink the koolaid" or "blah blah liberal blah".
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Not going to lie...I didn’t even read what you posted lol.
 
thebigt said:
i am sure @ax1 has a nice list of falsehoods put out by who and cdc?
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dixonk said:
AX1 will be able to connect them to the NWO and maybe possibly a connection to 9/11.
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I have some files on that in the corner, but the US government is across the street pulsating a nano-particle energy beam that side of my house penetrating right through 1" of lead and 7 layers of Reynolds internal shield fused in school glue that I had set up to thwart the attack, but somehow they still breached my barrier...

Ill get right back to you, someone just rung my doorbell.
 
ax1 said:
I have some files on that in the corner, but the US government is across the street pulsating a nano-particle energy beam that side of my house penetrating right through 1" of lead and 7 layers of Reynolds internal shield fused in school glue that I had set up to thwart the attack, but somehow they still breached my barrier...

Ill get right back to you, someone just rung my doorbell.
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avon calling?
 
thebigt said:
are you kidding....doctors offices and ER's have had masks on hand for over a decade to prevent spread of virus's. the use of masks for virus prevention is well known and has been for a very long time!!!!

geez!!!!
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In the cases of airbourne ones, yes But if you recall at the beginning they were not yet sure it was transmitted through the air.

You don't wear a mask to protect you against HIV or HPV, and MERS (MERS-COV) was spread mostly through direct contact with hosts.

I can't remember how long it took them to change their recommendation, and maybe it should have been sooner, but other coronaviruses didn't require widespread use of masks to contain (2003 SARS). You're trying to make it sound as if it was common knowledge that masks should have been recommended earlier, but this isn't the first coronavirus we have contended with, but none have been as infectious.

We can still criticize them for being slow to react, which doesn't detract from the fact that this Doctor fellow is blatantly using misleading evidence to argue his view on 'plandemic.'
 
Jiigzz said:
In the cases of airbourne ones, yes But if you recall at the beginning they were not yet sure it was transmitted through the air.

You don't wear a mask to protect you against HIV or HPV, and MERS (MERS-COV) was spread mostly through direct contact with hosts.

I can't remember how long it took them to change their recommendation, and maybe it should have been sooner, but other coronaviruses didn't require widespread use of masks to contain (2003 SARS).
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They only changed it to break people’s will and a test of compliance to push their agendas. Masks have not and will not stop, slow, or prevent the spread of the stupid pathetic China virus. Masks have become a cult for some though and they are willing to fight to the death to defend the message of the tyrants.
 
Jiigzz said:
In the cases of airbourne ones, yes But if you recall at the beginning they were not yet sure it was transmitted through the air.

You don't wear a mask to protect you against HIV or HPV, and MERS (MERS-COV) was spread mostly through direct contact with hosts.

I can't remember how long it took them to change their recommendation, and maybe it should have been sooner, but other coronaviruses didn't require widespread use of masks to contain (2003 SARS).
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lol...you are grasping at straws!!!

they out right lied to us and you know it!!!!

oh, well you asked me to show you where they have been debunked and i showed you, your refusing to accept this is on you!!!
 
thebigt said:
lol...you are grasping at straws!!!

they out right lied to us and you know it!!!!

oh, well you asked me to show you where they have been debunked and i showed you, your refusing to accept this is on you!!!
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Ok, let's say they lied, what then about this Doctor man? That doesn't make what he said any truer, which i'm assuming is why you bought up in the CDC in the first place (deflection)
 
dixonk said:
They only changed it to break people’s will and a test of compliance to push their agendas. Masks have not and will not stop, slow, or prevent the spread of the stupid pathetic China virus. Masks have become a cult for some though and they are willing to fight to the death to defend the message of the tyrants.
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What's the agenda that wearing a mask enforces?
 
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