Donald Trump running for president

ax1 said:
If this country breaks out in a civil war Im backing the Libertarians and Constitutionalists and will look to put an end of both those criminal parties.

It actually would be the best time and opportunity to save my Republic from both of them as they destroy and weaken each other....then near the end we come out of the caves.
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sounds like the plot of a star wars movie.
 
thebigt said:
lol....i find it funny that you always chime in with negative posts about trump and his supporters, but i have never once saw you instigate a negative post about the other side...oh sure, you say you agree that violence is bad on both sides but you seem to cherry pick negative things to post about one side only?
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No, but I post things that counter your narrative that conservatives can do no wrong. I literally quoted you were you said "but conservatives are the violent ones?", just to highlight that yes, they are also violent and threatening violence.

Posting an alternate perspective is not confirmation bias, because I never stated that the left wasn't violent, only counteracting your point that the right isn't violent.

That's a distinct, and very key difference. Even in your post you acknowledge that I say both sides are violent, so you obviously are aware of where I stand.
 
Jiigzz said:
No, but I post things that counter your narrative that conservatives can do no wrong. I literally quoted you were you said "but conservatives are the violent ones?", just to highlight that yes, they are also violent and threatening violence.

Posting an alternate perspective is not confirmation bias, because I never stated that the left wasn't violent, only counteracting your point that the right isn't violent.
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we are not talking about what i post...we are talking about what YOU post.
i admit to my bias, why can't YOU admit to you're bias?
 
So crazy Nancy is re-elected as house speaker?! The fcukkkkk...
 
puccah8808 said:
So crazy Nancy is re-elected as house speaker?! The fcukkkkk...
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i am actually happy about that...they could have picked someone whose brain isn't pickled by alcohol....drink up nancy, have a drink on me!!!!
 
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thebigt said:
we are not talking about what i post...we are talking about what YOU post.
i admit to my bias, why can't YOU admit to you're bias?
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You even acknowledged that I agree both sides are violent in that very post. Which i do.

The point of the post was to counter your claim that the right isn't violent.
 
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Jiigzz said:
You even acknowledged that I agree both sides are violent in that very post. Which i do.

The point of the post was to counter your claim that the right isn't violent.
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you might have assumed that is what i was saying, but it is not what i said!!!!

you were countering a claim based on a assumption-eh?
 
Jiigzz said:
You even acknowledged that I agree both sides are violent in that very post. Which i do.

The point of the post was to counter your claim that the right isn't violent.
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The only thing that stands out in my mind here is that you heavily defended BLM protests as being non-violent it seems. I am not going back through 20 pages to check my memory though, so if I am wrong sorry, that is just my memory.
 
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HIT4ME said:
The only thing that stands out in my mind here is that you heavily defended BLM protests as being non-violent it seems. I am not going back through 20 pages to check my memory though, so if I am wrong sorry, that is just my memory.
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i remember him for a long time defending blm protests as non-violent...eventually even though it probably hurt like a bad toothache to do so, he finally had to admit they were violent, all the while proclaiming the right was just as violent.
 
So Trump is now giving zero fucks about destroying any little bit of good he may have done and essentially committing criminal acts to try and still win. I mean, he was an embarrassment before, but now he goes out as a joke. Man, how sad. The tape is awesome to hear him grovel and incriminate himself.
 
HIT4ME said:
The only thing that stands out in my mind here is that you heavily defended BLM protests as being non-violent it seems. I am not going back through 20 pages to check my memory though, so if I am wrong sorry, that is just my memory.
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At the beginning, the majority weren't which has been confirmed by numerous sources (the violent ones were covered overly by the media rather than the majority of protests which were peaceful).
 
Jiigzz said:
At the beginning, the majority weren't which has been confirmed by numerous sources (the violent ones were covered overly by the media rather than the majority of protests which were peaceful).
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This was the most costly and destructive protesting in modern American history,

Come on man!
 
Jiigzz said:
At the beginning, the majority weren't which has been confirmed by numerous sources (the violent ones were covered overly by the media rather than the majority of protests which were peaceful).
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And even the peaceful ones, fuq them too....we are in the middle of a pandemic, peoples businesses shut down, lives destroyed and these people mass gathered many not wearing masks or wearing them properly spreading disease and people are dropping dead all over the place and they are fully responsible for not taking the steps to stop the spread. Fuq peaceful BLM that took it to the streets "peacefully" during the worst "crisis" in global history the past 100 years.
 
Peaceful my azz, BLM is nothing but a bunch of racist virus spreading marching death goblins who foam at the mouth and the following week people's grandmas dropped dead because they couldn't breath.
 
Jiigzz said:
At the beginning, the majority weren't which has been confirmed by numerous sources (the violent ones were covered overly by the media rather than the majority of protests which were peaceful).
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bullshyt!!!

the media was covering up for the violence, pretending it wasn't happening....c'mon man-get f'ing real.
 
ax1 said:
And even the peaceful ones, fuq them too....we are in the middle of a pandemic, peoples businesses shut down, lives destroyed and these people mass gathered many not wearing masks or wearing them properly spreading disease and people are dropping dead all over the place and they are fully responsible for not taking the steps to stop the spread. Fuq peaceful BLM that took it to the streets "peacefully" during the worst "crisis" in global history the past 100 years.
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ax1 said:
Peaceful my azz, BLM is nothing but a bunch of racist virus spreading marching death goblins who foam at the mouth and the following week people's grandmas dropped dead because they couldn't breath.
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I agree with all that! BLM is a disgusting racial propaganda cult and the people who support them are morons.
 
even ted wheeler is now admitting that the violence is coming from the left, saying it's time to crack down.
 
puccah8808 said:
So crazy Nancy is re-elected as house speaker?! The fcukkkkk...
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Just in case anyone was questioning how corrupt our government truly is, this in itself should lay any doubts to rest.

To think that we all contribute to her salary makes me want to throw myself down a flight of stairs!
 
ax1 said:
And even the peaceful ones, fuq them too....we are in the middle of a pandemic, peoples businesses shut down, lives destroyed and these people mass gathered many not wearing masks or wearing them properly spreading disease and people are dropping dead all over the place and they are fully responsible for not taking the steps to stop the spread. Fuq peaceful BLM that took it to the streets "peacefully" during the worst "crisis" in global history the past 100 years.
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So you now agree Covid is responsible for lots of people dying?

Because I was under the impression you thought it was overblown?
 
thebigt said:
bullshyt!!!

the media was covering up for the violence, pretending it wasn't happening....c'mon man-get f'ing real.
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ACLED back in September produced a report where 93% of protests were peaceful.

Obviously the non-peaceful riots caused a lot of damage and those who did it should be held accountable, but we should also look at the 93% and not just the 7%.

Unfortunately the 7% are what ruins the movement and what it stands for. It lost a lot of credibility after the riots, and a lot of people don't agree with the defund the police mantra which makes sense.
 
Ricky10 said:
Just in case anyone was questioning how corrupt our government truly is, this in itself should lay any doubts to rest.

To think that we all contribute to her salary makes me want to throw myself down a flight of stairs!
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Throw me first. If you’ve never been to San Francisco, it’s one of the grosses cities ever, right behind New York.
 
Jiigzz said:
ACLED back in September produced a report where 93% of protests were peaceful.

Obviously the non-peaceful riots caused a lot of damage and those who did it should be held accountable, but we should also look at the 93% and not just the 7%.

Unfortunately the 7% are what ruins the movement and what it stands for. It lost a lot of credibility after the riots, and a lot of people don't agree with the defund the police mantra which makes sense.
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bullsyht again!!!!

what the freaking hell is ACLED anyways-aren't they the ones who funded the blm fueled riots?

man, you get to come down from the clouds, put dem feet back on da ground.
 
thebigt said:
sounds like the plot of a star wars movie.
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I constantly see parallels between our civil and political unrest and the overall plot/storyline of Star Wars.

We all know what the dark side of the force mirrors, and I seriously can’t help but to think of Chancellor Palpatine whenever I see China Joe. He kind of looks like him, and he is just as evil when you rip away his shield which is the media.

It’s long overdue for the Rebel Alliance to gain back some ground!
 
Ricky10 said:
I constantly see parallels between our civil and political unrest and the overall plot/storyline of Star Wars.

We all know what the dark side of the force mirrors, and I seriously can’t help but to think of Chancellor Palpatine whenever I see China Joe. He kind of looks like him, and he is just as evil when you rip away his shield which is the media.

It’s long overdue for the Rebel Alliance to gain back some ground!
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i see those parallels too, ricky....i was actually being serious when i posted that.
 
puccah8808 said:
Throw me first. If you’ve never been to San Francisco, it’s one of the grosses cities ever, right behind New York.
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I have not, but I have seen videos of her district. They were certainly not pretty..

To think that all we hear out of Nancy Pelosi is negativity, corruption, and just plain shockingly disgusting behavior. We receive all this from the media that endorses her. I can only imagine what she has done or plans to do that has not been in the public eye! :oops:
 
thebigt said:
i see those parallels too, ricky....i was actually being serious when i posted that.
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To be clear, while Chancellor Palpatine and China Joe are characters of evil, they certainly have their differences.

Palpatine is much more independent, honest, smarter, and never showed any signs of dementia. He also wasn’t a pedophile that I am aware of..

On the other hand China Joe is, well-- China Joe!
 
Ricky10 said:
I have not, but I have seen videos of her district. They were certainly not pretty..

To think that all we hear out of Nancy Pelosi is negativity, corruption, and just plain shockingly disgusting behavior. We receive all this from the media that endorses her. I can only imagine what she has done or plans to do that has not been in the public eye! :oops:
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we heard pelosi for 4 years punk out trump for how he ran the entire country, but yet the media never once called her out for how she ran her 1 little district. karl malden would stroke out if he weren't already dead if he could see the streets of san francisco today-pelosi has represented san francisco for 33 years.
 
Ricky10 said:
To be clear, while Chancellor Palpatine and China Joe are characters of evil, they certainly have their differences.

Palpatine is much more independent, honest, smarter, and never showed any signs of dementia. He also wasn’t a pedophile that I am aware of..

On the other hand China Joe is, well-- China Joe!
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live long and prosper---ooops, trek not wars.
 
thebigt said:
we heard pelosi for 4 years punk out trump for how he ran the entire country, but yet the media never once called her out for how she ran her 1 little district. karl malden would stroke out if he weren't already dead if he could see the streets of san francisco today-pelosi has represented san francisco for 33 years.
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If there is anyone in the public eye who has mastered the art of living a life below that of a piece of shyt, it would be her. Quite the accomplishment in itself I suppose..
 
Jiigzz said:
So you now agree Covid is responsible for lots of people dying?

Because I was under the impression you thought it was overblown?
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Ive always said it was a problem, I wouldnt call this a "crisis." Ive supported being pro-active without infringing on people's rights and liberties. You dont solve a problem with bigger problems or give up your freedoms for security.

The media who has been looking down on people for not obeying orders turned a complete blind eye on all the BLM protests when it comes to the policies they have propagated.
 
Jiigzz said:
ACLED back in September produced a report where 93% of protests were peaceful.

Obviously the non-peaceful riots caused a lot of damage and those who did it should be held accountable, but we should also look at the 93% and not just the 7%.

Unfortunately the 7% are what ruins the movement and what it stands for. It lost a lot of credibility after the riots, and a lot of people don't agree with the defund the police mantra which makes sense.
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Its their protest, the protest is all on the hands of BLM, its theirs to own. They created this even if unintended. They are a racially divisive group and live a world of hypocrisy.
 
thebigt said:
bullsyht again!!!!

what the freaking hell is ACLED anyways-aren't they the ones who funded the blm fueled riots?

man, you get to come down from the clouds, put dem feet back on da ground.
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No
 
ax1 said:
Ive always said it was a problem, I wouldnt call this a "crisis." Ive supported being pro-active without infringing on people's rights and liberties. You dont solve a problem with bigger problems or give up your freedoms for security.

The media who has been looking down on people for not obeying orders turned a complete blind eye on all the BLM protests when it comes to the policies they have propagated.
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Isn't it in the constitution that there's a right to protest?

I'm very confused by where you actually stand lol.
 
I’m pretty fucking over everything. The back and forth, the good and bad. Let’s just get these damn 4 years over with.
 
ax1 said:
Thats like saying only 10% of our troops in the Middle East participated in violence.
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Everyone does all or nothings all the time.

Isn't the conservative argument that "yes there are bad cops, but not all police are bad"?

Thats the same argument the protesters are using. Not all protesters have good intentions, but they're not all bad. If you applied the same logic to both sides, then all protesters are bad is the same as saying all police are bad because of the actions of a small group.

You can disavow rioters and anarchists while still supporting the root cause. Just the same as people can disavow bad cops but still support the overall police force.

Unfortunately it has become "if you support BLM, then you support rioters" or "if you support police, then you are racist". Both arguments are equally retarded.
 
Jiigzz said:
Isn't it in the constitution that there's a right to protest?

I'm very confused by where you actually stand lol.
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Constitutionally, yes but the problem is twofold....first, the government is enforcing laws, regardless if they are Constitutional or not, the Covid rules only apply to good citizens who want to run their essential businesses or attend a funeral, etc....they will fine you and/or put you in jail. If you protest and mass gather breaking the laws they dont give a shyt because they are trying to capitalize it politically or there is nothing for them to politically gain from it.

2nd, there is a "pandemic" or a problem that Ill say that I have personally actively done my part yet these irresponsible self centered selfish shytards dont give a damn so as a citizen myself who constitionally has a right to protest, I stand here and tell all BLM protestors to go fuq themselves.
 
Jiigzz said:
Everyone does all or nothings all the time.

Isn't the conservative argument that "yes there are bad cops, but not all police are bad"?

Thats the same argument the protesters are using. Not all protesters have good intentions, but they're not all bad. If you applied the same logic to both sides, then all protesters are bad is the same as saying all police are bad because of the actions of a small group.

You can disavow rioters and anarchists while still supporting the root cause. Just the same as people can disavow bad cops but still support the overall police force
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If you want the "conservative argument" your talking to the wrong dude, lol

You are right in my opinion, the majority of the protestors have "good" intentions regardless if you support their ideology or not but as a protest, this is a singled out event as a whole has been more catastrophic both financially and materially than anything else in modern time since the Civil War.

Our entire system is fuqed to the core, its not the fault of most of the police but the very people these sheep are propping up and supporting.
 
ax1 said:
Constitutionally, yes but the problem is twofold....first, the government is enforcing laws, regardless if they are Constitutional or not, the Covid rules only apply to good citizens who want to run their essential businesses or attend a funeral, etc....they will fine you and/or put you in jail. If you protest and mass gather breaking the laws they dont give a shyt because they are trying to capitalize it politically or there is nothing for them to politically gain from it.

2nd, there is a "pandemic" or a problem that Ill say that I have personally actively done my part yet these irresponsible self centered selfish shytards dont give a damn so as a citizen myself who constitionally has a right to protest, I stand here and tell all BLM protestors to go fuq themselves.
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BTW I'm not disagreeing with you. I fully support that those who protested in mass groups are stupid.

Honestly, as a species we just think we are invincible. We have forgotten that not so long ago infectious diseases were our #1 global killers. Now medicine has pushed those diseases to the fringes in the modern world and we eat ourselves to death instead. But rewind 100+ years and infectious disease, infections and other nasties were our greatest killers.
 
Jiigzz said:
BTW I'm not disagreeing with you. I fully support that those who protested in mass groups are stupid.

Honestly, as a species we just think we are invincible. We have forgotten that not so long ago infectious diseases were our #1 global killers. Now medicine has pushed those diseases to the fringes in the modern world and we eat ourselves to death instead. But rewind 100+ years and infectious disease, infections and other nasties were our greatest killers.
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We are certainly living alot longer than a century ago and chronic illness has more time to develop as people overmunch on doritos with budlight.

Im actually not so offended at the protestors of the mass gathering, its irresponsible but my beef really is the government. Punish people for attending a funeral, but dont say nothing when people are screaming at each other in full force with thousands all around and people wonder why there was a spike across the country a week later. The police did a shytpoor job from the infectious side when it came to those protests as well. I wonder how many of them came home to elderly people or has some connection to them?
 
WTF?

Hudson Valley Post
1/4/2021

However, New York is one of over 30 states where it is illegal to warm up your car, Invalid Link Removed.

Many New Yorkers break the law every cold day and could be given a hefty fine.

Anyone who lives in New York understands how awful it feels to go from a warm house to a freezing cold car. To avoid this, many will let their car idle, to warm it up.

No person driving or in charge of a motor vehicle shall permit it to stand unattended without first stopping the engine, locking the ignition, removing the key from the vehicle, and effectively setting the brake thereon and, when standing upon any grade, turning the front wheels to the curb or side of the highway, provided, however, the provision for removing the key from the vehicle shall not require the removal of keys hidden from sight about the vehicle for convenience or emergency.

In other words, it's illegal in New York to put the keys into your engine, turn your car on and walk away from your car with the engine still running.

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States with anti-idling laws include:

  • Arizona
  • California
  • Colorado
  • Connecticut
  • Delaware
  • District of Columbia
  • Georgia
  • Hawaii
  • Idaho
  • Illinois
  • Kansas
  • Maine
  • Maryland
  • Massachusetts
  • Michigan
  • Minnesota
  • Missouri
  • Nevada
  • New Hampshire
  • New Jersey
  • New York
  • North Carolina
  • Ohio
  • Oregon
  • Pennsylvania
  • Rhode Island
  • South Carolina
  • Texas
  • Utah
  • Vermont
  • Virginia
  • West Virginia
 
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Lol....wow...so WOKE
 
ax1 said:
WTF?

Hudson Valley Post
1/4/2021

However, New York is one of over 30 states where it is illegal to warm up your car, Invalid Link Removed.

Many New Yorkers break the law every cold day and could be given a hefty fine.

Anyone who lives in New York understands how awful it feels to go from a warm house to a freezing cold car. To avoid this, many will let their car idle, to warm it up.

No person driving or in charge of a motor vehicle shall permit it to stand unattended without first stopping the engine, locking the ignition, removing the key from the vehicle, and effectively setting the brake thereon and, when standing upon any grade, turning the front wheels to the curb or side of the highway, provided, however, the provision for removing the key from the vehicle shall not require the removal of keys hidden from sight about the vehicle for convenience or emergency.

In other words, it's illegal in New York to put the keys into your engine, turn your car on and walk away from your car with the engine still running.

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States with anti-idling laws include:

  • Arizona
  • California
  • Colorado
  • Connecticut
  • Delaware
  • District of Columbia
  • Georgia
  • Hawaii
  • Idaho
  • Illinois
  • Kansas
  • Maine
  • Maryland
  • Massachusetts
  • Michigan
  • Minnesota
  • Missouri
  • Nevada
  • New Hampshire
  • New Jersey
  • New York
  • North Carolina
  • Ohio
  • Oregon
  • Pennsylvania
  • Rhode Island
  • South Carolina
  • Texas
  • Utah
  • Vermont
  • Virginia
  • West Virginia
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Wouldn't that make remote start key fobs illegal? Apparently no one has told auto manufacturers. Also I thought you warm up your car because it's hard on the engine to run cold, not because it's uncomfortable for you to sit in a cold car.
 
Anabaholic said:
Wouldn't that make remote start key fobs illegal? Apparently no one has told auto manufacturers. Also I thought you warm up your car because it's hard on the engine to run cold, not because it's uncomfortable for you to sit in a cold car.
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Im no mechanic, but warming the car up for cold engines was more relevant for old school carburetor engines. I think just a minute is fine for most modern engines just enough to get the fluids running and drive off slightly slow. Total broscience here on my part, look into it....but for old car owners well, I guess its a crime to run your car properly.

I dont think this is going to effect me since I live on private property, but I can see how this can easily be enforced in cities. All you need to do is look for exaust smoke and an empty seat and the city gets some revenue in.

But yeah, they may as well as well outlaw remote starters too while they are at it. Perhaps the government should save the environment and ban all government officials from flying if they really gave a shyt, they could just use Zoom but as long as its all paid for on the taxpayer's tip they truly dont give a flying crap.
 
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