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Donald Trump running for president

thebigt said:
ok, just saw blm sympathizer joe biden on tv pandering to veterans....this moron really has lost his mind, in 8 years obama/biden nearly ruined the VA....as a veteran who uses the VA i can tell everyone from personal experience that the VA is way way better since trump took over!!!
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He’s pandering to the blue falcons, dishonorable and other than honorable discharges, and the section 8s. Nobody that ETSed or Retired from the military would ever pull the lever for that clown.
 
dixonk said:
He’s pandering to the blue falcons, dishonorable and other than honorable discharges, and the section 8s. Nobody that ETSed or Retired from the military would ever pull the lever for that clown.
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apparently joe moron didn't get the memo...i am sure from listening to him that he is trying to take away from trumps base-REAL VETERANS....i see this as a good sign, he dedicated almost his entire conference at vets--i see this as desperation on his part.

800,000 cops plus add in their families and countless numbers of vets who are all highly motivated to vote trump---GO TRUMP
 
I think the Vets got tricked and attended the wrong Jo...lol

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thebigt said:
apparently joe moron didn't get the memo...i am sure from listening to him that he is trying to take away from trumps base-REAL VETERANS....i see this as a good sign, he dedicated almost his entire conference at vets--i see this as desperation on his part.

800,000 cops plus add in their families and countless numbers of vets who are all highly motivated to vote trump---GO TRUMP
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I have literally seen maga flags and stickers on military vehicles and patches on uniforms down range. Lol. I can’t ever remember seeing that for Odumbdumb and his retarded VP.
 
ax1 said:
I think the Vets got tricked and attended the wrong Jo...lol

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You do realize that as soon as you enter any military building anywhere in the world that the first thing you see is a portrait of Trump right?
 
dixonk said:
You do realize that as soon as you enter any military building anywhere in the world that the first thing you see is a portrait of Trump right?
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what is really funny is that people applying for welfare/food stamps have to look at trumps picture, lol.
 
Still waiting on JoJo to explain how she will get the swamp to get on board with any of her ideas. Great ideas btw. Unrealistic expectations from our elected politicians though.
 
dixonk said:
He’s pandering to the blue falcons, dishonorable and other than honorable discharges, and the section 8s. Nobody that ETSed or Retired from the military would ever pull the lever for that clown.
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this is from newsweek...'over 200 retired senior military leaders endorse donald trump, criticize biden's record'

actually the number was 235.
 
thebigt said:
this is from newsweek...'over 200 retired senior military leaders endorse donald trump, criticize biden's record'

actually the number was 235.
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Now flag officers endorsing Trump is something special. They like to go democrat a lot for some reason.
 
dixonk said:
You do realize that as soon as you enter any military building anywhere in the world that the first thing you see is a portrait of Trump right?
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I dont think any active politicization should have their portrait on military buildings. Personally Id put up George Washington, Grant, Eisenhower, Patton, etc.....If your president and didnt lead a war your picture dont go up on Military buildings. That includes Jo. I mean yeah sure "commander in chief" sure...if they want to bomb other countries go and lead the charge.
 
'lancaster protesters held on whopping $1 million bail each after alleged riots'

i am glad to see this, but biden's team is hurrying to raise money to post bail :unsure:
 
ax1 said:
I dont think any active politicization should have their portrait on military buildings. Personally Id put up George Washington, Grant, Eisenhower, Patton, etc.....If your president and didnt lead a war your picture dont go up on Military buildings. That includes Jo. I mean yeah sure "commander in chief" sure...if they want to bomb other countries go and lead the charge.
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Chain of command is always front and center. It’s always been that way. Right now DJT is commander in chief. So his picture is first. Then it goes down the ranks for that building.
 
dixonk said:
Still waiting on JoJo to explain how she will get the swamp to get on board with any of her ideas. Great ideas btw. Unrealistic expectations from our elected politicians though.
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The Libertarian Party is a big grounds up movement, her job is to keep building on the infrastructure.

Personally Im expecting a few L's in national government within the next decade, as in congress and/or senate. We can argue we have Rand Paul already who is really a L infiltrating the Rs to destroy it from the inside out.
 
thebigt said:
have you seen the middle east deal trump just signed?
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Its a step in the right direction, my impression over the last 4 years is although I think Dump should be in prison for war crimes, he isnt nearly as bad as Obobo has been. Definitely not.
 
ax1 said:
The Libertarian Party is a big grounds up movement, her job is to keep building on the infrastructure.

Personally Im expecting a few L's in national government within the next decade, as in congress and/or senate. We can argue we have Rand Paul already who is really a L infiltrating the Rs to destroy it from the inside out.
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I would easily call Rand Paul a libertarian masquerading as a Republican. I sometimes enjoy watching him go against all of them on policies especially spending bills. The guy stands behind small govt spending. I wish he would throw his hat in the ring 2024 honestly.
 
dixonk said:
Now flag officers endorsing Trump is something special. They like to go democrat a lot for some reason.
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flag officers are political appointments, obama got rid of a lot of flag officers and appointed his supporters to those positions--i've read several articles on obama purging military of those who didn't agree with him....unfortunately trump didn't do this, vindman should have been fired on day one-but you can bet adam shiff would have called for a special prosecutor if trump would have purged flag officers the way obama did---double standard?
 
dixonk said:
Chain of command is always front and center. It’s always been that way. Right now DJT is commander in chief. So his picture is first. Then it goes down the ranks for that building.
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So have the buildings always had the current active Commander in Chief on Military buildings or you were just saying that as in your prediction Dump is going to win again?
 
thebigt said:
flag officers are political appointments, obama got rid of a lot of flag officers and appointed his supporters to those positions--i've read several articles on obama purging military of those who didn't agree with him....unfortunately trump didn't do this, vindman should have been fired on day one-but you can bet adam shiff would have called for a special prosecutor if trump would have purged flag officers the way obama did---double standard?
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Luckily he didn’t get his bird. He will probably get a gig at CNN soon enough.
 
ax1 said:
I dont think any active politicization should have their portrait on military buildings. Personally Id put up George Washington, Grant, Eisenhower, Patton, etc.....If your president and didnt lead a war your picture dont go up on Military buildings. That includes Jo. I mean yeah sure "commander in chief" sure...if they want to bomb other countries go and lead the charge.
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i thought you would be happy a civilian is in charge of military-eh?
 
dixonk said:
Still trying to connect the war crimes accusation...
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We have no business bombing the middle east and supplying weapons to terrorists, 1 standout is the Saudi Arabian Princess if that makes sense.
 
ax1 said:
We have no business bombing the middle east and supplying weapons to terrorists, 1 standout is the Saudi Arabian Princess if that makes sense.
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We are actively engaged in combat there. You’re not supposed to bomb things when you are at war?
 
ax1 said:
We have no business bombing the middle east and supplying weapons to terrorists, 1 standout is the Saudi Arabian Princess if that makes sense.
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trump is uniting middle east against iran, and using this as leverage to gain support for israel---if trump gets re-elected i truly believe both iran and palestinians will be game for negotiations for peace in middle east---this is something you should be all in on!!!
 
thebigt said:
i thought you would be happy a civilian is in charge of military-eh?
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It depends on the perspective here, ultimately 300 million people are in charge of the military, the tax payers fund it and without money they dont exist. From a front lines pescpective I want the best and most experienced military people calling the shots with our elected officials calling the policies even if its policies I don't agree with.
 
dixonk said:
We are actively engaged in combat there. You’re not supposed to bomb things when you are at war?
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What war? We havent declared a war since 1942. Anything after that was and is illegal.
 
ax1 said:
It depends on the perspective here, ultimately 300 million people are in charge of the military, the tax payers fund it and without money they dont exist. From a front lines pescpective I want the best and most experienced military people calling the shots with our elected officials calling the policies even if its policies I don't agree with.
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Gonna be quite honest here...if more experienced military people were calling the shots there would be even more bombing lol.
 
thebigt said:
trump is uniting middle east against iran, and using this as leverage to gain support for israel---if trump gets re-elected i truly believe both iran and palestinians will be game for negotiations for peace in middle east---this is something you should be all in on!!!
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Well, thats certainly positive but what would be better is to simply end all the sanctions and give them a call and trade with them.
 
ax1 said:
What war? We havent declared a war since 1942. Anything after that was and is illegal.
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Global war on terror. GWOT which includes OEF and OIF. There is also SOFA agreements between host nations in the area and our government allowing this.
 
ax1 said:
Well, thats certainly positive but what would be better is to simply end all the sanctions and give them a call and trade with them.
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Ending sanctions and trading with a group that wants to wipe Israel off the map and has death to America rallies and kidnaps and tortures US citizens?
 
dixonk said:
Gonna be quite honest here...if more experienced military people were calling the shots there would be even more bombing lol.
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Thats why I added our elected officials making the policies, ultimately its up to them and the tax payers putting them in place. I dont ever blame my military that I love for policies I disagree with.
 
ax1 said:
Thats why I added our elected officials making the policies, ultimately its up to them and the tax payers putting them in place. I dont ever blame my military that I love for policies I disagree with.
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Then you can’t blame trump for war crimes. Congress set the policies. He gave the thumbs up and our military leaders executed 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
dixonk said:
Ending sanctions and trading with a group that wants to wipe Israel off the map and has death to America rallies and kidnaps and tortures US citizens?
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They dont want to wipe Israel off the map, thats propaganda but you cant blame them for being pizzed off.

The US government has does the same thing to middle eastern people for decades including propping up violent Iranian dictators.

Should we have continued the Vietnam war today because they had death to USA rallies and kidnapped US citizens? Or look at Vietnam today, they arent the terrorists they sold us to be. They are just doing the same garbage with Iran, I dont buy it.
 
dixonk said:
Then you can’t blame trump for war crimes. Congress set the policies. He gave the thumbs up and our military leaders executed 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Dump isnt appearing to be as bad as what Ive seen since the beginning of the Bushy era.

I dont know if you can tell, but Im against 98% of the whole system and almost all of them belong in jail, LOL

I never meant to totally single out Dump or even Obobo before hand, and before that, etc.....

I think if Hitlery was prez the past 4 years we would be far worse in regards to war...well in regards to just about EVERYTHING!
 
ax1 said:
They dont want to wipe Israel off the map, thats propaganda but you cant blame them for being pizzed off.

The US government has does the same thing to middle eastern people for decades including propping up violent Iranian dictators.

Should we have continued the Vietnam war today because they had death to USA rallies and kidnapped US citizens? Or look at Vietnam today, they arent the terrorists they sold us to be. They are just doing the same garbage with Iran, I dont buy it.
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Lol. You haven’t been paying attention to what Iran has been doing. They have been actively killing Americans and American troops both directly and indirectly for quite sometime now. They have literally gone on record as saying they want to wipe Israel off the map. Not sure how that is just propaganda. Calling it good with them and then letting them get resources to further fund their atrocities around the world is not a good idea.
 
ax1 said:
Well, thats certainly positive but what would be better is to simply end all the sanctions and give them a call and trade with them.
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you mean like obama did, lol....they used the money obama gave them to finance terrorist groups-this is what the people of iran were/are protesting about. instead of using that money to help their impoverished nation they squandered it by financing terrorist groups like hamas---you do remember where the iranian general was killed right, he was killed in iraq!!!
 
ax1 said:
Dump isnt appearing to be as bad as what Ive seen since the beginning of the Bushy era.

I dont know if you can tell, but Im against 98% of the whole system and almost all of them belong in jail, LOL

I never meant to totally single out Dump or even Obobo before hand, and before that, etc.....

I think if Hitlery was prez the past 4 years we would be far worse in regards to war...well in regards to just about EVERYTHING!
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That’s no joke. I gave up a couple contracts when State took over Iraq from DoD. F*ck that witch.
 
dixonk said:
Lol. You haven’t been paying attention to what Iran has been doing. They have been actively killing Americans and American troops both directly and indirectly for quite sometime now. They have literally gone on record as saying they want to wipe Israel off the map. Not sure how that is just propaganda. Calling it good with them and then letting them get resources to further fund their atrocities around the world is not a good idea.
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And what good is Isreal? They wiped out Palestine almost completely off the map and they continue to do it. Maybe the difference is they dont openly say it?

Just leave and come home, they kidnap our people any longer. The US would have the same feeling about Iran if they stationed their troops at the border in Mexico.

Just come home, call Iran and trade with them, help them modernize. They aint gonna blow up Israel trust me, its impossible, you know why? Because if they try to blow up Israel thats the complete termination of Iran and Iran wants no part of that.
 
ax1 said:
And what good is Isreal? They wiped out Palestine almost completely off the map and they continue to do it. Maybe the difference is they dont openly say it?

Just leave and come home, they kidnap our people any longer. The US would have the same feeling about Iran if they stationed their troops at the border in Mexico.

Just come home, call Iran and trade with them, help them modernize. They aint gonna blow up Israel trust me, its impossible, you know why? Because if they try to blow up Israel thats the complete termination of Iran and Iran wants no part of that.
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There is no such thing as Palestine.
 
ax1 said:
Dump isnt appearing to be as bad as what Ive seen since the beginning of the Bushy era.

I dont know if you can tell, but Im against 98% of the whole system and almost all of them belong in jail, LOL

I never meant to totally single out Dump or even Obobo before hand, and before that, etc.....

I think if Hitlery was prez the past 4 years we would be far worse in regards to war...well in regards to just about EVERYTHING!
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it is very naive to compare iran to vietnam, imo....nam was a proxy war against spread of communism in place of war with china/russia, at least this is my take on it much like korean war.

iran was our ally before overthrow of the shah--iran then took over out embassy and held American citizens hostage. this was a act of war, and things have been hostile between our countries since.
 
ax1 said:
There is no such thing as the United States anymore either, thats what Id wanna focus restoring on over than worrying about Israeli mass murder.
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Exactly. While we are worrying about ourselves we can leave Iran to go broke under our sanctions so that we won’t have to worry about fighting them through our own problem
 
thebigt said:
you mean like obama did, lol....they used the money obama gave them to finance terrorist groups-this is what the people of iran were/are protesting about. instead of using that money to help their impoverished nation they squandered it by financing terrorist groups like hamas---you do remember where the iranian general was killed right, he was killed in iraq!!!
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Obobo is a piece of crap, and killing that Iranian general didnt accomplish anything either. Dunno why everyone was cheering about that when they never even heard of him and his shoes have been replaced within seconds.
 
dixonk said:
Lol. You haven’t been paying attention to what Iran has been doing. They have been actively killing Americans and American troops both directly and indirectly for quite sometime now. They have literally gone on record as saying they want to wipe Israel off the map. Not sure how that is just propaganda. Calling it good with them and then letting them get resources to further fund their atrocities around the world is not a good idea.
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since 1979, i am well aware of what fuckedup leaders iran has, i joined navy in 77 and was sent to middle east on eisenhower when that sht happened...the general consensus on board ship was nuke em!!!
 
ax1 said:
Obobo is a piece of crap, and killing that Iranian general didnt accomplish anything either. Dunno why everyone was cheering about that when they never even heard of him and his shoes have been replaced within seconds.
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I heard about him. And his death was cause for celebration.
 
thebigt said:
it is very naive to compare iran to vietnam, imo....nam was a proxy war against spread of communism in place of war with china/russia, at least this is my take on it much like korean war.

iran was our ally before overthrow of the shah--iran then took over out embassy and held American citizens hostage. this was a act of war, and things have been hostile between our countries since.
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The Shah who was illegally put in by the CIA during the 1953 coup as a puppet government for the oil companies.

Then people wonder why Iranians and other countries hate us so much.

What about Iran funding BLM and staging a coup of Dump? And then we overthrow the invaders, how evil that would be of us, RROOFFFLLLLLLLLLLL
 
ax1 said:
Obobo is a piece of crap, and killing that Iranian general didnt accomplish anything either. Dunno why everyone was cheering about that when they never even heard of him and his shoes have been replaced within seconds.
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apperently you haven't followed that story...soleimani was legendary, he was probably the 2nd most powerful person in iran.
he was in iraq overseeing a attack on americans when we got him 1st. in my opinion killing him saved many american and probably iranian lives-he was know as a butcher to dissidents in iran.
 
ax1 said:
The Shah who was illegally put in by the CIA during the 1953 coup as a puppet government for the oil companies.

Then people wonder why Iranians and other countries hate us so much.

What about Iran funding BLM and staging a coup of Dump? And then we overthrow the invaders, how evil that would be of us, RROOFFFLLLLLLLLLLL
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take a look at this...'25 photos show what iran looked like before the 1979 revolution turned the nation into an islamic republic'

@ax1 you need to educate yourself...look at those pics and read the article.
 
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