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We're better at socialism than the communists.
Their basic medical care is very affordable there, but they do send you to the cash register prior to treatment in my experiences.

If you give a doctor a "red envelope" chances are you get priority.
 
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In Beijing my senior father has to PAY to get a Covid test....we tell him we get it free of charge, he like wtffffffuuuuuuuu??????
 
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Below quote is some of what China feeds the minions, and my source is the official most Communist English media available. Whats really interesting about this piece is how China is trying to address netizens (thats what they call social media people) of a "epidemic" back in January 2020 as all the sudden flu cases quadrupled more by that time than the previous 4 years combined. I wonder why, duhhhh????

Its also funny how the CCP is trying to acknowledge their statistic issues by some "anonymous" source and for the first time scientists are saying maybe its some 80k a year.

Anyways its really interesting how screwed up the system is over there, but let me remind that country has 1.3 billion people and super duper condensed cities of more than 20 million jam packed in some cities. Subways there are so packed sometimes you bounce out of the subway carts trying to get in.

The flu epidemic in the US eased during the week of January 5-11 but remains active, with an estimated 13-18 million cases of flu illnesses documented since the start of the season, a latest report from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said.

The agency also estimates between 6,600 and 17,000 deaths related to influenza since October 1, 2019.

Official Chinese data of flu-caused deaths is much lower, with Chinese CDC data showing that in 2018, there were more than 700,000 cases and 144 deaths.


 
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The WHO arent in position to propagate the consistent load of tard and lies to the globe China feeds them either. There obviously is $omething going on behind the $cenes with China's $oft power. Feeding these lies completely de-legitimizes them as a respected reliable scientific entity.
What's your solution?

Lots of criticism, but no viable solution so far.

Also remember even Trump praised China at the beginning for their transparency. If you dont know you are being deceived, then you cannot call it out.

It is a novel virus and rate of infection was unknown at the time. Again, hindsight is likely playing a huge role in your feelings now. But at the time, do you jump straight in and call them liars before it becomes apparent?
 
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Good morning AM...it is Aug 13, 2020 and Trump is still the president and will be for the next 4 years.

It’s always a good morning sipping on some Black Rifle Coffee and knowing that.
 
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What's your solution?

Lots of criticism, but no viable solution so far.

Also remember even Trump praised China at the beginning for their transparency. If you dont know you are being deceived, then you cannot call it out.

It is a novel virus and rate of infection was unknown at the time. Again, hindsight is likely playing a huge role in your feelings now. But at the time, do you jump straight in and call them liars before it becomes apparent?
The solution is simply awareness which I think many people gained this past year.

Do you jump straight in and call them liars before it becomes apparent? When it comes to the CCP, dont believe anything. If the CCP says the sun comes up in the morning and sets at night you should think before coming to conclusions, thats how bad they are.

There were some clues at that time showing something was really wrong that the CCP was covering up at that time that certainly should have alarmed scientists. If they were fooled into what CCP told them that is certainly a sign that although they may be great scientists, they are naive when it comes to the political scheme of things especially when it come to Chinese politics where the CCP is more concerned with the obsession of "saving face" culture than the lives of the people.

Dump was in the middle of that trade deal, is priority there is to cater to the CCP's "saving face" culture as thats how business is usually done there. You dont tell the truth, you just make deals. Im not saying he was right doing so, absolutely not. Certainly blew that one.
 
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America is so racist we elected a black man as their leader twice and probably would have won a 3rd term if he was allowed to do so.
Yeah, this is one way to look at it. The other is, we are so racist we elected a totally unqualified man to run our country based solely on the color of his skin. I mean, at this point AOC has more qualifications than Obama when he initially ran for president.
 
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Yeah, this is one way to look at it. The other is, we are so racist we elected a totally unqualified man to run our country based solely on the color of his skin. I mean, at this point AOC has more qualifications than Obama when he initially ran for president.
I still don’t know what the hell a community organizer is or does. LMAO.
 
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I still don’t know what the hell a community organizer is or does. LMAO.
He pays people to write books about his life.
 
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I am just really glad Obummer showed me the error in my ways. Before I had health insurance that was priced based on my overall health. Now I have health insurance that is based on my wealth. I really really love my 1200 a month policy. It’s just swell...

Also glad he made me realize that maintaining a presence in Iraq and trying to train up a fledgling new found army was a bad idea and that pulling out completely was the best idea. ISIS did a much better job than the Iraqi military at securing their broken country.
 

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Who said WHO couldn't figure it out? They're not in a position to say "you're lying, we are coming in to check". They HAVE to rely on the information presented.

What else would you have recommended they done?
Do you not think that the WHO and China are looking out for each other? The WHO director was highly supported by China when he was appointed because China didn’t want Taiwan to have a seat on the WHO counsel.
 
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Do you not think that the WHO and China are looking out for each other? The WHO director was highly supported by China when he was appointed because China didn’t want Taiwan to have a seat on the WHO counsel.
There are no limits to what actions via soft power China would take to keep Taiwan from having a voice.
 
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So in other news joint statement on normalization of relationship between Israel and UAE. This is big news.
 
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I am just really glad Obummer showed me the error in my ways. Before I had health insurance that was priced based on my overall health. Now I have health insurance that is based on my wealth. I really really love my 1200 a month policy. It’s just swell...

Also glad he made me realize that maintaining a presence in Iraq and trying to train up a fledgling new found army was a bad idea and that pulling out completely was the best idea. ISIS did a much better job than the Iraqi military at securing their broken country.
You are naive if you think Obamacare is a liberal plan. Obama is just the poor bastard that slapped his name on it. What Democrat has ever proposed privatization?
Republicans have failed to repeal and replace ACA like four times now? Meanwhile, Democrats have a completely different plan they want to implement.

Things that make you go hmmmm. And, FWIW, there are good things in the ACA. But the health insurance industry won and are loving it.
 
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You are naive if you think Obamacare is a liberal plan. Obama is just the poor bastard that slapped his name on it. What Democrat has ever proposed privatization?
Republicans have failed to repeal and replace ACA like four times now? Meanwhile, Democrats have a completely different plan they want to implement.

Things that make you go hmmmm. And, FWIW, there are good things in the ACA. But the health insurance industry won and are loving it.
His namesake and signature are on it. They passed it with no Republican support and rammed it through without even knowing what it was.
 
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His namesake and signature are on it. They passed it with no Republican support and rammed it through without even knowing what it was.
It was a heritage foundation plan based on Mittens work in MA and had dozens of republican amendments.
 
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His namesake and signature are on it. They passed it with no Republican support and rammed it through without even knowing what it was.
Some republicans including Boner made a lot of money off it behind the scenes.
 
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I meant - they would beg to differ that he is a republican. He was won elections in one of the most liberal states in the country, it wasn't because he had such conservative views.

He then imposed mandated healthcare before even Obama did it. It failed miserably, and Obama took it and ran.

And I'm not sure how Bain would suggest he's a conservative either....
 
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You are naive if you think Obamacare is a liberal plan. Obama is just the poor bastard that slapped his name on it. What Democrat has ever proposed privatization?
Republicans have failed to repeal and replace ACA like four times now? Meanwhile, Democrats have a completely different plan they want to implement.

Things that make you go hmmmm. And, FWIW, there are good things in the ACA. But the health insurance industry won and are loving it.
lol...obama a POOR bastard?
 
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'portland protesters, rioters target police with lasers and fireworks outside federal courthouse'.....
 
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Conservatives you disagree with = not conservatives.

Got it.
 
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Conservatives you disagree with = not conservatives.

Got it.
some in the press are saying kamala isn't liberal enough, lol. i am sure they/you would disagree with at least several things in her past history?

biden too for that matter....just sayin-
 
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Conservative that do liberal **** = not conservative. Mittens is not a conservative in any way shape or form.
i never could understand how a utah mormon got elected gov of mass?
 
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Imagine a world where you can be a member of one party and generally align with that party but have big enough balls to admit the opposite party might have it right on a thing or two.
 
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some in the press are saying kamala isn't liberal enough, lol. i am sure they/you would disagree with at least several things in her past history?

biden too for that matter....just sayin-
Sure but that doesn't mean he's not a liberal at all it just means I disagree with him on many issues.
 
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i never could understand how a utah mormon got elected gov of mass?
I couldn’t understand how he made it to the Republican nominee. I have never met a person that voted for him in the primary...ever.
 
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Conservative that do liberal **** = not conservative. Mittens is not a conservative in any way shape or form.
So, since Biden has done conservative $hit does that mean he's not a liberal?
 
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Sure but that doesn't mean he's not a liberal at all it just means I disagree with him on many issues.
but won't stop you from voting for him-eh?;)
 
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Imagine a world where you can be a member of one party and generally align with that party but have big enough balls to admit the opposite party might have it right on a thing or two.
When has that moron aligned with the Republican Party?
 
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The solution is simply awareness which I think many people gained this past year.

Do you jump straight in and call them liars before it becomes apparent? When it comes to the CCP, dont believe anything. If the CCP says the sun comes up in the morning and sets at night you should think before coming to conclusions, thats how bad they are.

There were some clues at that time showing something was really wrong that the CCP was covering up at that time that certainly should have alarmed scientists. If they were fooled into what CCP told them that is certainly a sign that although they may be great scientists, they are naive when it comes to the political scheme of things especially when it come to Chinese politics where the CCP is more concerned with the obsession of "saving face" culture than the lives of the people.

Dump was in the middle of that trade deal, is priority there is to cater to the CCP's "saving face" culture as thats how business is usually done there. You dont tell the truth, you just make deals. Im not saying he was right doing so, absolutely not. Certainly blew that one.
Wait, so the awareness we gained this year should have been used last year? How does that work lol.

So scientists trusting China = bad
Trump trusting China = justified

That's not double standards at all
 
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but won't stop you from voting for him-eh?;)
I am undecided as of yet. I may leave the top blank. It depends on how much more of the authoritarian stuff Trump does, mostly.
 
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I am just really glad Obummer showed me the error in my ways. Before I had health insurance that was priced based on my overall health. Now I have health insurance that is based on my wealth. I really really love my 1200 a month policy. It’s just swell...

Also glad he made me realize that maintaining a presence in Iraq and trying to train up a fledgling new found army was a bad idea and that pulling out completely was the best idea. ISIS did a much better job than the Iraqi military at securing their broken country.
Who invaded Iraq on false pretenses and destroyed their country and political system?
 
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I couldn’t understand how he made it to the Republican nominee. I have never met a person that voted for him in the primary...ever.
i think i remember voting for ron paul, not totally sure?
 
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I am undecided as of yet. I may leave the top blank. It depends on how much more of the authoritarian stuff Trump does, mostly.
stopping looting and rioting?
 

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