Excelsior Pre.. Majorly Lethargic days after stopping?

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I'm sure most will have heard of the pre Excelsior that's floating around the market just now?

Here's the panel...

Whenever i run it for a couple days and then stop using it. I become VERY lethargic' Anxious' Low Mood... I can sleep 10 hours straight and then wake and still feel exhausted. What is this pre doing to my body?! Feels like it completely drains all the neurotransmitters. It does give a brilliant high/euphoric feel (Which makes me question that label). The aftermath is horrid though so i flushed it down the pan.

Any ideas how i can get myself back into homeostasis? I feel like a slug at the moment. Can't even lift a weight the last 3 days.

Was gonna take some

5-HTP
Mucuna Puriens
Acetyl L Carnitine

To bump my Serotonin' Dopamine' Choline levels.

Just don't want to just add supplements.

Just intrigued what's causing this?

Anyone else noticed this?
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I'm sure most will have heard of the pre Excelsior that's floating around the market just now?

Here's the panel...

Whenever i run it for a couple days and then stop using it. I become VERY lethargic' Anxious' Low Mood... I can sleep 10 hours straight and then wake and still feel exhausted. What is this pre doing to my body?! Feels like it completely drains all the neurotransmitters. It does give a brilliant high/euphoric feel (Which makes me question that label). The aftermath is horrid though so i flushed it down the pan.

Any ideas how i can get myself back into homeostasis? I feel like a slug at the moment. Can't even lift a weight the last 3 days.

Was gonna take some

5-HTP
Mucuna Puriens
Acetyl L Carnitine

To bump my Serotonin' Dopamine' Choline levels.

Just don't want to just add supplements.

Just intrigued what's causing this?

Anyone else noticed this? View attachment 195853
It has been suspected that it is spiked with an amphetamine. Citicoline would be good to take as it is choline and uridine. Probably wouldn't use the 5htp. Maybe L Tryptophan and P5P.
 
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It has been suspected that it is spiked with an amphetamine. Citicoline would be good to take as it is choline and uridine. Probably wouldn't use the 5htp. Maybe L Tryptophan and P5P.
I have cdp Choline and Uridine Monophosphate. These do the same deeds?

Yeah I'm certain it has an extra ingredient in their. I took 1.5 scoops about 2pm... Guess how much sleep i got that night? Zero! Was crazy buzzing.

Suppose my body will balance out in time? Honestly never felt as lethargic in my life.

That powder is gonna pop a heart soon. I had 110bpm resting on the sofa... Couldn't eat a crumb.
 
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I have cdp Choline and Uridine Monophosphate. These do the same deeds?

Yeah I'm certain it has an extra ingredient in their. I took 1.5 scoops about 2pm... Guess how much sleep i got that night? Zero! Was crazy buzzing.

Suppose my body will balance out in time? Honestly never felt as lethargic in my life.

That powder is gonna pop a heart soon. I had 110bpm resting on the sofa... Couldn't eat a crumb.
Definitely sounds like an amphetamine. CDP choline, and uridine would be great for your choline and for dopamine. Other than that, you will come to homeostasis.
 
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i hate these co that do pre workouts that aren't good manufacturing practices under FDA .. more importantly i dont understand why people support them .. unless you don't care what you put in your body.

honestly i would say .. just over time you will come back to your natural state and to just lay off supplements for 3-5 days.
 
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i hate these co that do pre workouts that aren't good manufacturing practices under FDA .. more importantly i dont understand why people support them .. unless you don't care what you put in your body.

honestly i would say .. just over time you will come back to your natural state and to just lay off supplements for 3-5 days.
Wonder how many have died or come near it because of ingesting double the dose, like some teens like to do with pre workout.
 
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I have cdp Choline and Uridine Monophosphate. These do the same deeds?

Yeah I'm certain it has an extra ingredient in their. I took 1.5 scoops about 2pm... Guess how much sleep i got that night? Zero! Was crazy buzzing.

Suppose my body will balance out in time? Honestly never felt as lethargic in my life.

That powder is gonna pop a heart soon. I had 110bpm resting on the sofa... Couldn't eat a crumb.
That is way to big of a dose of Excelsior!
 
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that prop blend who knows how much of anything you are actually taking
 
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Yeah, I think there's definitely something extra in this beyond what's printed on the ingredients label. After I went through my first tub, I felt like a sluggish, creaky, broken-down old man trying to run the next two days.
 
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That is way to big of a dose of Excelsior!
The tub suggests up to 2 scoops?

I have used pre's on and off for many years. Including Craze etc

If it says don't use more than one scoop in a 24 hour period then yeh 1.5 would be a big dose. It suggests 2 scoops though for stim heads. Most the lads on youtube all used 2 scoops also.

Still a spiked product mind. Put me off using pre's for a long while.
 
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This is why I now tend to prefer preworkouts like SNS Focus XT. 160mg caffeine per scoop and tastes really good. That's all I need. Just a pick me up. Once I get going in the gym, I'm set.
 

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I’d like to try excelsior but the price always stops me cold. Also, these sort of epic pre’s I only end up using once in a while. Doesn’t the tolerance build up fast?
 
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Was using a pre workout recently. Everyone was raving about it but the ingredient panel looked very basic. I bought a tub as it was going at a reasonable price and the first time i tried it i was like. This feels ALOT stronger and almost adderal like. Seemed strange but was almost on par with Craze.

I used the tub up and within a day or 2 i started to get crazy withdrawals. I was still drinking coffee so wasn't caffeine withdrawals.

I then checked the product online again and it had sky rocketed in price?

Just seems strange? Hopefully this feeling passes quick enough as i can barely function!

Any thoughts?
Not trying to call you out or anything but you made the above post in November 2019. Seems you have a love/hate relationship with it...haha!

I have been a longtime buyer of Excelsior but I use it quite sparingly, so I have never noticed any of the withdrawal symptoms you seem to have experienced. I typically dose 3/4 scoop as an addition to a serving of another preworkout. I literally just use it as a preworkout enhancer, and I don’t even do that every time.

It’s definitely a special supplement. Since it was giving you problems, finally taking it out of the picture was a good move. I have found L-Tyrosine, Rhodiola, DHEA/Pregnenolone, and Vitamin-C to be beneficial In the past for giving me a natural boost.
 
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I'm sure most will have heard of the pre Excelsior that's floating around the market just now?

Here's the panel...

Whenever i run it for a couple days and then stop using it. I become VERY lethargic' Anxious' Low Mood... I can sleep 10 hours straight and then wake and still feel exhausted. What is this pre doing to my body?! Feels like it completely drains all the neurotransmitters. It does give a brilliant high/euphoric feel (Which makes me question that label). The aftermath is horrid though so i flushed it down the pan.

Any ideas how i can get myself back into homeostasis? I feel like a slug at the moment. Can't even lift a weight the last 3 days.

Was gonna take some

5-HTP
Mucuna Puriens
Acetyl L Carnitine

To bump my Serotonin' Dopamine' Choline levels.

Just don't want to just add supplements.

Just intrigued what's causing this?

Anyone else noticed this? View attachment 195853
Yes very aware of these after effects. All stimulants more or less drains your natural levels of adrenaline and neurtransmitters and leave your system more fatigued than before. What was in those older batches of Excelsior is really long lasting so some people dont note the crash and the depletion the same day but something that strong will do that. I personally take 5htp although not sure I notice too much of an effect. Tyrosine might help a little as well. Taurine could possibly help as well but the longer we take supplements an stimulants without proper rest the longer it takes to recover our systems
 
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I'm sure most will have heard of the pre Excelsior that's floating around the market just now?

Here's the panel...

Whenever i run it for a couple days and then stop using it. I become VERY lethargic' Anxious' Low Mood... I can sleep 10 hours straight and then wake and still feel exhausted. What is this pre doing to my body?! Feels like it completely drains all the neurotransmitters. It does give a brilliant high/euphoric feel (Which makes me question that label). The aftermath is horrid though so i flushed it down the pan.

Any ideas how i can get myself back into homeostasis? I feel like a slug at the moment. Can't even lift a weight the last 3 days.

Was gonna take some

5-HTP
Mucuna Puriens
Acetyl L Carnitine

To bump my Serotonin' Dopamine' Choline levels.

Just don't want to just add supplements.

Just intrigued what's causing this?

Anyone else noticed this? View attachment 195853
How did mucuna pruriens work out for you? Anybody else have experience form taking to mucuna pruriens to restore depleted dopamine levels? I have been taking 5htp but that is supposed to work on serotonin and although I do feel some relaxation an hour or two after taking 5htp I dont really feel it helps my overall energy level. After a break of two weeks I got back on Excelsior and bam finished up a litterature home exam in record time in 2 days. Although the day I took 8/23 batch I got uncomfortable racing heart and couldnt concentrate that well, but that 10/22 batch is really amazing for my concentration. About to get diagnosed for ADHD but i doubt they have anything as good. I have previously tried methylphenidate, Ritalin and found it to be crap with crappy tension and anxious side effects in my experience.
 
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How did mucuna pruriens work out for you? Anybody else have experience form taking to mucuna pruriens to restore depleted dopamine levels? I have been taking 5htp but that is supposed to work on serotonin and although I do feel some relaxation an hour or two after taking 5htp I dont really feel it helps my overall energy level. After a break of two weeks I got back on Excelsior and bam finished up a litterature home exam in record time in 2 days. Although the day I took 8/23 batch I got uncomfortable racing heart and couldnt concentrate that well, but that 10/22 batch is really amazing for my concentration. About to get diagnosed for ADHD but i doubt they have anything as good. I have previously tried methylphenidate, Ritalin and found it to be crap with crappy tension and anxious side effects in my experience.
Want to restore both serotonin and dopamine systems, use BPC157, drop 5htp, drop mucuna. 500mcg BPC157 daily. Cod liver oil. Citicholine. Uridine monophosphate. That combo should make you right as rain.
 
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Want to restore both serotonin and dopamine systems, use BPC157, drop 5htp, drop mucuna. 500mcg BPC157 daily. Cod liver oil. Citicholine. Uridine monophosphate. That combo should make you right as rain.
I have actually looked into BCP-157 and it seems interesting, will research a bit more but thanks for the tip.
 
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Sucks @bell1986. Honestly had this same reaction with the original Mesomorph.

Probably only time will help. You could try focusing on some cardio to sweat the crap out, maybe sauna too. And take some activated charcoal to “clean” your stomach. Most of this is probably placebo, but anything will you help you at this point it sounds like.
 
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Want to restore both serotonin and dopamine systems, use BPC157, drop 5htp, drop mucuna. 500mcg BPC157 daily. Cod liver oil. Citicholine. Uridine monophosphate. That combo should make you right as rain.
Been out the game for a min, but I thought BPC was only injectable?
 
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Been out the game for a min, but I thought BPC was only injectable?
It is effective orally as well. Especially the stable version. I have don't both oral and injectable, and to me they both yield similar results.
 
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It is effective orally as well. Especially the stable version. I have don't both oral and injectable, and to me they both yield similar results.
I haven´t dug to deep but I saw something in reddit about some people saying after taking it that dopaminergics like caffeine and amphetamines were not effient anymore after using BP-157? Could you try an dexplain hpw BPC-157 has improved your dopamine receptors or nerve system and how it has effected you mentally and energywise?
 
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I have seen one shop on ebay selling Excelsior expiration 10/22 for 400US$ and I have seen from reviews that a handful of people have actually paid that price lol! Well last Driven Sports Craze were really expensive. Some exp 8/23 might be similar although I got unlucky om first two not having some good mood or energy. Am a bit short of cash and might have some extra Exvelsior 10/22 to put for sale. Thing is I feel a bit apprehensive though even if there is demand on the market and this still is legal I feel like a drug dealer selling an adictive drug to an addict an donly an addict would pay that price but if he did he would have the money and hopefully not have gotten them from robberies or breakn n enter..... Hmmm I think it would sell but feel apprehensive. I could buy bunch of 8/23 tubs instead loo and maybe they will be good.....
 
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I haven´t dug to deep but I saw something in reddit about some people saying after taking it that dopaminergics like caffeine and amphetamines were not effient anymore after using BP-157? Could you try an dexplain hpw BPC-157 has improved your dopamine receptors or nerve system and how it has effected you mentally and energywise?
People of Reddit. Most exaggerate and are hypochondriacs. Okay, now that I got that out of the way. While you are taking BPC, you may lose effectiveness of stimulants. However, after it's cleared your body, you experience the stims like you should. It has not negatively impacted my use of stims or Kratom for that matter. In fact, after using BPC stims hit better. Kratom hits better. That's indicative that there was restoration. BPC helped my sleep. It helped my tennis elbow. It helped my shoulders. I could feel systemic inflammation reduce after taking it. I felt generally better while on BPC and post.
 
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I have seen one shop on ebay selling Excelsior expiration 10/22 for 400US$ and I have seen from reviews that a handful of people have actually paid that price lol! Well last Driven Sports Craze were really expensive. Some exp 8/23 might be similar although I got unlucky om first two not having some good mood or energy. Am a bit short of cash and might have some extra Exvelsior 10/22 to put for sale. Thing is I feel a bit apprehensive though even if there is demand on the market and this still is legal I feel like a drug dealer selling an adictive drug to an addict an donly an addict would pay that price but if he did he would have the money and hopefully not have gotten them from robberies or breakn n enter..... Hmmm I think it would sell but feel apprehensive. I could buy bunch of 8/23 tubs instead loo and maybe they will be good.....
That’s the price you gotta pay to play dawg. You think Too Short felt bad about all the pussy and crack he slang?
 
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That’s the price you gotta pay to play dawg. You think Too Short felt bad about all the pussy and crack he slang?
lol , maybe he actually did somewhere back in his heart.
 

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People of Reddit. Most exaggerate and are hypochondriacs. Okay, now that I got that out of the way. While you are taking BPC, you may lose effectiveness of stimulants. However, after it's cleared your body, you experience the stims like you should. It has not negatively impacted my use of stims or Kratom for that matter. In fact, after using BPC stims hit better. Kratom hits better. That's indicative that there was restoration. BPC helped my sleep. It helped my tennis elbow. It helped my shoulders. I could feel systemic inflammation reduce after taking it. I felt generally better while on BPC and post.
What oral BPC have you found effective? Thanks.
 
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People of Reddit. Most exaggerate and are hypochondriacs. Okay, now that I got that out of the way. While you are taking BPC, you may lose effectiveness of stimulants. However, after it's cleared your body, you experience the stims like you should. It has not negatively impacted my use of stims or Kratom for that matter. In fact, after using BPC stims hit better. Kratom hits better. That's indicative that there was restoration. BPC helped my sleep. It helped my tennis elbow. It helped my shoulders. I could feel systemic inflammation reduce after taking it. I felt generally better while on BPC and post.
Thank you for reply,
I might dig deeper into the research again. Sounds amazing but also new and untested but all amazing things are new and relatively untested at some point and what I read no real negatives in trial besides perhaps some hyochondriacs on reddit as you call the lol
 
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Thank you for reply,
I might dig deeper into the research again. Sounds amazing but also new and untested but all amazing things are new and relatively untested at some point and what I read no real negatives in trial besides perhaps some hyochondriacs on reddit as you call the lol
When looking at horror stories, one never finds out the whole story. Did those people have major problems pre using the peptide? Did they have a drug problem? Depression? Hormonal issues. Did they use a questionable source? I've seen the horror stories, and they all go, "bpc gave me depression", "BPC gave me ED"; "don't question my source, my past or present habits, it's definitely the peptide causing my problems".
 
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What was your dosage like and how long did you run it?

I am mainly looking into it for general restoration purpose as I am 45 years old have had major stress issues partly caused by being forced to move 7 times in between 4 countries within just a few years and having a small child in the same family.
Have been using stims to get through intense work days. Actually did okay with just guarana and yerba mate tabs that I popped at worked then I started using some PWOs working out hard.
Had som Craze and Detonate but not for long actually still have half a bottle Detonate that I have been keeping mostly for important academic task well also popped one or two at some dance events lol
Only started Excelsior last June to mask exhaustion and it works temporarily.
But yeah great if BPC 157 really has a restorative effect. I know there are some studies that actually shows that mediation has a real restorative effect on nervous system as well, if being practiced that is, reading about it doesn´t help lol.

Do you know any legit sources for BPC-157 in Europe?
I guess buying it from Chinese chemical manufacturres would be cheapest option but unless tried and tested connection it might be a gamble although I know some people who have had luck with several compounds directly from China.
Thanks for the idea anyhow and Excelsior is a really catchy name but better get there without using that PWO all the time lol
 
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What was your dosage like and how long did you run it?

I am mainly looking into it for general restoration purpose as I am 45 years old have had major stress issues partly caused by being forced to move 7 times in between 4 countries within just a few years and having a small child in the same family.
Have been using stims to get through intense work days. Actually did okay with just guarana and yerba mate tabs that I popped at worked then I started using some PWOs working out hard.
Had som Craze and Detonate but not for long actually still have half a bottle Detonate that I have been keeping mostly for important academic task well also popped one or two at some dance events lol
Only started Excelsior last June to mask exhaustion and it works temporarily.
But yeah great if BPC 157 really has a restorative effect. I know there are some studies that actually shows that mediation has a real restorative effect on nervous system as well, if being practiced that is, reading about it doesn´t help lol.

Do you know any legit sources for BPC-157 in Europe?
I guess buying it from Chinese chemical manufacturres would be cheapest option but unless tried and tested connection it might be a gamble although I know some people who have had luck with several compounds directly from China.
Thanks for the idea anyhow and Excelsior is a really catchy name but better get there without using that PWO all the time lol
Hey Mate Sounds like you have been battling a rough period! Have you managed to get some relief?

I know how it feels to use 'Substances' to make the gloom periods feel semi normal. I have abused loads of pre workouts ' Kratom' and also went through an alcohol spell. For me personally i had a few hours relief then days of dread! Depression anxiety etc. Drugs/Supplements only temporarily patch a problem it doesn't cure it. The best i ever felt and I'm being honest is when i had NOTHING in my system and then let my brain and body repair itself. I had depression for months after stopping everything and then i just woke up and felt like.... Me. I was happy and had full energy. I wouldn't go back to abusing anything as it just makes your life worse further down the line.

Yes i can get BPC-157. I will pm you ok I have read about it and it seems promising. If your looking to repair your dopamine system i have heard that some people use dopamine antagonists (Anti psychotic drugs. Sounds scary i know!) This blocks dopamine from being released and it gives your receptors a break to repair (2 weeks i have heard some use them for with success)

Wellbutrin can help (Isn't a fix though just a dopamine/norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor)

Uridine seems to get mentioned a lot. Worth a look.

Stay away from L-Dopa. I was taking this thinking. I'm just raising my dopamine I'm sure I'm low. This down regulates your receptors even more and can cause horrid long term side effects if it is abused.

Where are you based? I have a source for BPC-157. Just wanted to make sure it won't be crazy priced for delivery though. I have used different peptides from this source and they we're perfect. Just add sterile/bac water and your good to go
 
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What was your dosage like and how long did you run it?

I am mainly looking into it for general restoration purpose as I am 45 years old have had major stress issues partly caused by being forced to move 7 times in between 4 countries within just a few years and having a small child in the same family.
Have been using stims to get through intense work days. Actually did okay with just guarana and yerba mate tabs that I popped at worked then I started using some PWOs working out hard.
Had som Craze and Detonate but not for long actually still have half a bottle Detonate that I have been keeping mostly for important academic task well also popped one or two at some dance events lol
Only started Excelsior last June to mask exhaustion and it works temporarily.
But yeah great if BPC 157 really has a restorative effect. I know there are some studies that actually shows that mediation has a real restorative effect on nervous system as well, if being practiced that is, reading about it doesn´t help lol.

Do you know any legit sources for BPC-157 in Europe?
I guess buying it from Chinese chemical manufacturres would be cheapest option but unless tried and tested connection it might be a gamble although I know some people who have had luck with several compounds directly from China.
Thanks for the idea anyhow and Excelsior is a really catchy name but better get there without using that PWO all the time lol
Or is it oral (Capsule) BPC-157? Can do both so just let us know
 

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Was considering buying another tub but numerous opinions suggesting reformulation does 8/23 justify the price now? I don't know.
 
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Hey Mate Sounds like you have been battling a rough period! Have you managed to get some relief?

I know how it feels to use 'Substances' to make the gloom periods feel semi normal. I have abused loads of pre workouts ' Kratom' and also went through an alcohol spell. For me personally i had a few hours relief then days of dread! Depression anxiety etc. Drugs/Supplements only temporarily patch a problem it doesn't cure it. The best i ever felt and I'm being honest is when i had NOTHING in my system and then let my brain and body repair itself. I had depression for months after stopping everything and then i just woke up and felt like.... Me. I was happy and had full energy. I wouldn't go back to abusing anything as it just makes your life worse further down the line.

Yes i can get BPC-157. I will pm you ok I have read about it and it seems promising. If your looking to repair your dopamine system i have heard that some people use dopamine antagonists (Anti psychotic drugs. Sounds scary i know!) This blocks dopamine from being released and it gives your receptors a break to repair (2 weeks i have heard some use them for with success)

Wellbutrin can help (Isn't a fix though just a dopamine/norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor)

Uridine seems to get mentioned a lot. Worth a look.

Stay away from L-Dopa. I was taking this thinking. I'm just raising my dopamine I'm sure I'm low. This down regulates your receptors even more and can cause horrid long term side effects if it is abused.

Where are you based? I have a source for BPC-157. Just wanted to make sure it won't be crazy priced for delivery though. I have used different peptides from this source and they we're perfect. Just add sterile/bac water and your good to go
Hiya
thanks for reply. I actually took a chance and ordered BPC-157 directly fro China. They sem legit with COA and all but I don´t know anybody who can confirm their product so it is surely a risk.
I am based in Europe and my countrys custom is extremely strict pretty in that everything that enters local postal service will be processed and fined for customs fee and tax. In worst case they can withhold and send powders etc for analyze although non narcotics and non medicines should pass according to regulations.


I am sceptical abour pharmaeceuticals. I was actually prescribe an antipsychotic serroquel for sleep and somehow it really shuts down my dopamine receptor or whatever but it gave me a terrible mood the next day. Suicidal thoughts is a common side effect as well from that.

L-Dopa is dopamine precursor and as you say it migh downregulate receptors although personally I wouldn´t be worried about moderate doses of a natural mucuna pruriens extract. I have seen studies that suggest that natural mucuna pruriens have been used for quite a long time to treat alzeheimer with almost no side effects, a natural exctract even contains some 5htp and other natural substances that make it more balaces , but the use of almost pure l-dope synthesized on the other hand came with much more sides. But I have to qualifications to recommend the use of any substances.

Great to hear you were able to heal naturally and yes that is the way to go in the long run although I really like natural adaptogens like ashwaganda for example with basically only benefits although not drastic results like you can get with drugs that come with side effects
 
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People of Reddit. Most exaggerate and are hypochondriacs. Okay, now that I got that out of the way. While you are taking BPC, you may lose effectiveness of stimulants. However, after it's cleared your body, you experience the stims like you should. It has not negatively impacted my use of stims or Kratom for that matter. In fact, after using BPC stims hit better. Kratom hits better. That's indicative that there was restoration. BPC helped my sleep. It helped my tennis elbow. It helped my shoulders. I could feel systemic inflammation reduce after taking it. I felt generally better while on BPC and post.
Hopefully I have some legit BPC 157 on the way. how do you go about dosing the ampulls orally I guess its just a matter of simple mathematics as they are 5mg power each and then check hout many milliter total is after mixed with water. And I am thinking to maybe start with 250mcg before sleep of twice daily? I have seen some people use 500mcg at
 
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Hopefully I have some legit BPC 157 on the way. how do you go about dosing the ampulls orally I guess its just a matter of simple mathematics as they are 5mg power each and then check hout many milliter total is after mixed with water. And I am thinking to maybe start with 250mcg before sleep of twice daily? I have seen some people use 500mcg at
250mcg twice a day. When you wake up. Before bed.

Put 2ml water in the vial to reconstitute. Then divide 5000 with 500. You get 10 days at that dose. 10 units on the pin will be a single dose of 250mcg.
 
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Thanks for reply ValiantThor On the pin? Do they come with a pin? How long did you run it for? Do you take breaks and run it again?
 
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Thanks for reply ValiantThor On the pin? Do they come with a pin? How long did you run it for? Do you take breaks and run it again?
They typically don't come with insulin syringes. You'll have to buy 1ml insulin syringes. I've run about 30 days straight, and would of ran longer if funds allowed. You could keep running it until you achieve whatever healing you are looking for.
 
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Well I am only running it orally but have one of those plastic kinda syringes?no needle but I think they fairly accurate can pull 1 ml or maybe I should mix with twice amount of water to be more accurate dosing? Healing like the Wolverine rowr, wondering if it might help with DOMs as well. I am 45 but in pretty good condition although especially in winter time get a bit sore after biking and hiking in minus 10 degrees and more
 
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Have a tendency of getting knee pain and a reason I haven´t run in many years and 75 kgs is a little bit much to run longer for my joints, but especially in winter and if the tired joints have tendency to get crank. Exciting to see if this might help with that as well. Not sure about quality although lab reports look legit but the deal I am getting in case of legit is way better than any in Europe And U.S. Let´ts see if it passes customs without problems as well but I hope so.
 

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I’m assuming that what you ordered is coming in a sterile vial with a rubber top. You are going to need syringes to add the water and mix the powder, then to draw it out of the vial to take it. Maybe you could get away with one syringe to mix it and then keep reusing it to administer it orally.

I recently purchased BPC157 from a well known board sponsor. I thought that I was getting two 15mg vials, but it came as six 5mg vials. However it did come with 6 insulin pins.
 
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I’m assuming that what you ordered is coming in a sterile vial with a rubber top. You are going to need syringes to add the water and mix the powder, then to draw it out of the vial to take it. Maybe you could get away with one syringe to mix it and then keep reusing it to administer it orally.

I recently purchased BPC157 from a well known board sponsor. I thought that I was getting two 15mg vials, but it came as six 5mg vials. However it did come with 6 insulin pins.
Well I might just mix it in dropper bottle that is easy to use, far from rocket science so should be no problems. Uncle_E for what purpose and what dosage have you been using and how have your results been?
 
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Pretty easy to find insulin syringesbut I got a bit of needle fright so wouldn´t be injecting any supplements or drugs into myself
 
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Just opened my fourth Excelsior 8/23 tub .
Haven´t finished last 2 far from it but out of curiousity since I have noticed they differ.
This one again feels different.
Pretty strong at less than a scoop. Slightly jittery and a slight shakiness and cold in my fingertips, side effects that I havent felt with previous tubs. Just my first scoop so cannot really evaluate yet. But I am quiet sensitive to substances and keep different tubs opened so I can evaluate from day to day, Gonna be quite careful with this one. Have a feeling sides could possible be quite bad on higher dose with this one. Start light for anyone jumping on this quite a few people even reporting breathing problems as well although many new comments on youtube seem positive lately.
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I don’t have any major injuries that I’m trying to fix with BPC at the moment. I keep hearing all the hype and positive experiences from respected people on here, so I took advantage of a holiday sale and picked some up to have in hand. I’ve been bulking and hitting PR’s in terms of lifts and body weight for the past 6 months, so I figured I’d run some now before the next bulking cycle to see if what benefits it could have for my laundry list of age related injuries and lingering birth defects, lol.
 

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I’m only taking 250mcg EOD. I’ve pretty much just substituted with BPC while I take a break from HCG to see if there are any noticeable results. I know it’s a low dose, probably too infrequent so I’m not expecting to be blown away by it. More just want to have it on hand and see how my body reacts to it in the event that I do need it for something more serious.

I hear ya on the needles, I used to nearly pass out from routine blood draws. But somehow pinning sub q has become a dirty pleasure for me.
 
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Hiya

I am not expecting much really and there might be chance I am not getting quality but I hope to be lucky, I have before been lucky ordering other things directly from China and and got good quality at really good prices. But I don´t really have the business mind to be reselling and although I experiment on myself personally I couldn´t sell things I truly believe in. Things that basically are only positive without side effects like a bunch of natural adaptogens although not instant kicks like stims or other substances.
 
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Oral BPC ? Just wipe your ass with your cash so it's useful.
 

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