I am a big preworkout and stim junkie, and had never found a product before that had literally no redeeming qualities. I got some samples of Broken arrow elite and was incredibly disappointed so I figured I would warn you guys to avoid it. The original broken arrow was a good solid (if mildly overpriced imho) preworkout that I liked and it had a solid dose of dmha. The new elite mix was totally worthless and I got absolutely nothing from it, no energy, no pumps, no focus, and the taste was pretty bad (hail storm flavor). I was under the understanding that it was the same formula just with different stimulants but I got none of the positives of the original and didn't even feel the effects that 350 mg of caffeine should provide. I hope this doesn't come across as a hit piece because I was a big fan of the original formula, and have nothing against the company, but proceed with caution if you try it. I hope they can figure out the formula or that my sample was a fluke but I've never been more disappointed in a product