Your opinion about best cutting compound ?

pheeroni

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I've been lifting for 9 year, lowest bodyfat is 16%, i'm never the ripped guys around.
Corona hits really hard and i've been off track for my bodygoals, Now i'm 210 lbs, 5"6 and around 21% bodyfat.

So i wonder which the best compound for cutting or the cycle you guys doing for cutting/recomp.
Let's asume the diet plan is on spot. Calorie deficit (200-500 cal, maybe more).

The only cutting cycle i've been doing is sust 500 mg (1-10wk), test prop 400 mg (11-12 wk) and anavar 50 mg(8-12 wk) and the definition is by far is best from any cycle i've been doing (test dbol/winny).

Any insight is really apreciated :)
 
Yeah as above bro, if your at 21% then just diet down to nearer 15%, then cycle.

maybe some peptides for fat loss/recovery but not aas at this point.
 
I would lower my bodyfat firstly like other guys said and after i would run Test p with oral winstrol and clen.
 
i've heard that guys get really nice results from invictus even at high bf%...you might try it 1st since it is non-hormonal.
 
Really apreciate it guys,

I'd try to clean diet with proper training and looking forward to pick up aas.

On the other hand, when you do hit your lowest possible BF and try to get definition or pushes even more, what would you pick ?
 
pheeroni said:
Really apreciate it guys,

I'd try to clean diet with proper training and looking forward to pick up aas.

On the other hand, when you do hit your lowest possible BF and try to get definition or pushes even more, what would you pick ?
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see post #5
 
pheeroni said:
Really apreciate it guys,

I'd try to clean diet with proper training and looking forward to pick up aas.

On the other hand, when you do hit your lowest possible BF and try to get definition or pushes even more, what would you pick ?
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I wouldnt pick an aas if fat loss is the goal I'd choose T3 and or clen
 
Codybenz said:
This invictus keeps popping up everywhere. Who makes it? Might give some a shot
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Dude, Invictus is the real deal!! I'm not affiliated with them in any way. I just love all of their products.
I saw physical results in the mirror in maybe 2 weeks!

As for clen - it can be a very dangerous drug.. If you have any family history of heart problems, then I would stay far away from it.. I used to use it, despite knowing that my dads f'd up heart disease was also in my gene's.. it put me into A-fib back in 2016.
Not trying to scare you.. Just please do your homework.
 
Invictus is something you can feel within a few days of use...sleep is better, sugary cravings dissipate, etc. oh, and I think it's probably the best libido booster I've used (non anabolic).
 
delsolrob said:
Invictus is something you can feel within a few days of use...sleep is better, sugary cravings dissipate, etc. oh, and I think it's probably the best libido booster I've used (non anabolic).
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plus it being a immune booster-handy thing to have these days!!!!
 
thebigt said:
plus it being a immune booster-handy thing to have these days!!!!
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I could always use better sleep and immune. Do you think it would benefit an enhanced athlete like myself or would I more take it when I'm back down to trt
 
mixedup said:
I could always use better sleep and immune. Do you think it would benefit an enhanced athlete like myself or would I more take it when I'm back down to trt
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save it...if you are on a cycle your cortisone is already reduced...back in the day anti-corts were mainstays of pct to prevent cortisone rebound.

once back on trt i highly recommend!!!
 
thebigt said:
save it...if you are on a cycle your cortisone is already reduced...back in the day anti-corts were mainstays of pct to prevent cortisone rebound.

once back on trt i highly recommend!!!
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Yea I remember I use to take lean x
 
mixedup said:
I wouldnt pick an aas if fat loss is the goal I'd choose T3 and or clen
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Yup, people forget ( or don’t know) anabolic steroids aren’t selective in the anabolic process. Building muscle and gaining fat are both anabolic processes.
If you’ve been lifting for 10 years or more you can do an extreme cut without losing much, if any muscle.
 
thebigt said:
save it...if you are on a cycle your cortisone is already reduced...back in the day anti-corts were mainstays of pct to prevent cortisone rebound.

once back on trt i highly recommend!!!
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yep yep yep, I’ve used it exactly this way before.....it’s good stuff
 
brofessorx said:
Yup, people forget ( or don’t know) anabolic steroids aren’t selective in the anabolic process. Building muscle and gaining fat are both anabolic processes.
If you’ve been lifting for 10 years or more you can do an extreme cut without losing much, if any muscle.
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you could also add muscle without gaining much, if any fat...it is just harder and takes longer, lol. people look down on people looking for short cuts losing fat, but in theory it isn't much different than looking for short cuts gaining muscle, at least, imo.

of course i am open minded and would love to hear the faults of this theory.
 
thebigt said:
i've heard that guys get really nice results from invictus even at high bf%...you might try it 1st since it is non-hormonal.
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Will try to look at it, idk is it possible to order from here since i've already ordered supplement from us and get holded by customs. I'm buying things for 70$ and must pay 300$ for customs so i wouldn't buy things overseas if customs still sucking blood, lol

Anyway thanks for the replies guys. Will try to natty cutting for awhile then looking up for better compound for recomp,

Cheers
 
I regularly use ashwagandha in "cycles" (i run out, or i forget to take for few days and say fuk it will stop for some time) and I am pretty sure it has an effect on corrisol, i definitely feel less nervous and calmer while using it, but it does take some time after i start taking it for the effects to show, i would say at least 2-3 weeks.
 
pheeroni said:
Will try to look at it, idk is it possible to order from here since i've already ordered supplement from us and get holded by customs. I'm buying things for 70$ and must pay 300$ for customs so i wouldn't buy things overseas if customs still sucking blood, lol

Anyway thanks for the replies guys. Will try to natty cutting for awhile then looking up for better compound for recomp,

Cheers
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@delsolrob has details on overseas retailers.
 
pheeroni said:
Will try to look at it, idk is it possible to order from here since i've already ordered supplement from us and get holded by customs. I'm buying things for 70$ and must pay 300$ for customs so i wouldn't buy things overseas if customs still sucking blood, lol

Anyway thanks for the replies guys. Will try to natty cutting for awhile then looking up for better compound for recomp,

Cheers
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where are you?
 
I'll bring a stash next time I'm in Asia ;) Was just down in Indonesia before all this craziness happened.
 
pheeroni said:
South East Asia below brunei, where regulation fk you up.

On the other side, the foods here are delish so it's harder to cut :)
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How can you guys bulk over there its constantly hot hahah.

I spent some time in the tropics (Africa) and i cant imagine trying to put on muscle while there. While i was there, i only did lighter exercise like pushups and stuff, and i either did it on the beach so that i can immediately cool off in the ocean or i would immediately go take a shower.

Fan was on constantly so i went through 2 while over there 😂 took some time to adjust to humidity i remember waking up the 1st night there with anxiety thinking how it is hard to breathe (house was basically in the jungle) 😀

I aint even trying to bulk during summer over here.
 
pheeroni said:
Will try to look at it, idk is it possible to order from here since i've already ordered supplement from us and get holded by customs. I'm buying things for 70$ and must pay 300$ for customs so i wouldn't buy things overseas if customs still sucking blood, lol

Anyway thanks for the replies guys. Will try to natty cutting for awhile then looking up for better compound for recomp,

Cheers
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Smart plan
 
CroLifter said:
How can you guys bulk over there its constantly hot hahah.

I spent some time in the tropics (Africa) and i cant imagine trying to put on muscle while there. While i was there, i only did lighter exercise like pushups and stuff, and i either did it on the beach so that i can immediately cool off in the ocean or i would immediately go take a shower.

Fan was on constantly so i went through 2 while over there 😂 took some time to adjust to humidity i remember waking up the 1st night there with anxiety thinking how it is hard to breathe (house was basically in the jungle) 😀

I aint even trying to bulk during summer over here.
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It really wasn't a problem bulking up since i'm quite the endomorph.
But i feel you for the hotness and humidity. Mega gym are closed since covid, then i'm hitting local gym without air conditioners (and even proper ventilation) and i feels like fainting and puking that i had to stop after 30 mins weightlift 🤣

The other regulars seems fine that i think human really can adapt to harsh environment, if needed 😂😂😂
 
I've tried so hard to out steroid a shitty diet. It dont work. The steroids are just going to preserve whatever muscle you got, maybe build some, but it's not going to play a huge role in fat loss. I'd go with minimal gear, 200-300test, 50mg winny and 50mcg t3 tapering off the t3. And diet your ass off. I recently cut from 222-198 in like 45days on 2400calories. It was the first time in a while I really stuck to my diet plan and it was the fastest cutting progress I've made in like 6-8 years
 
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