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Oral administration of various concentrations of olive leaves extract resulted in significant decrease of male genital system hormones.
you dun goof'd if you're taking this
And this study shows it increases testicular test levels in rats (your study posted is in rats as well) with a high protein diet.
Oral administration of various concentrations of olive leaves extract resulted in significant decrease of male genital system hormones.
you dun goof'd if you're taking this
boom-there it is!!!And this study shows it increases testicular test levels in rats (your study posted is in rats as well) with a high protein diet.
I'd caution making sweeping statements based off a single study.
I'd also caution the simplistic viewpoint of "more testosterone good! Less bad!" and view things in a whole considering all the other potential drawbacks and benefits. Considering the lacking research in benefits of maximizing testosterone within normal boundaries and muscle gains and the fact that not everything is about only maximizing hypertrophy it is important to view things from a wide scope depending on an individuals goals and using the range of research to make decisions.
PS you seem to have an obsession with this though and I'll be honest overthinking these kinds of things are probably worse than any individual benefits or negatives a product has...
i know for a fact that steve at sns researches the hell out of ingredients before he uses them.Oleuropein increases test, which is found in olives, olive oil, olive leaf extract. that study showing increased T didn't use olive leaf extract
the study i linked showing decreased T used olive leaf extract. so olive leaf extract has **** in it that makes the Oleuropein T boosting effects not work
therefor: eat olives or olive oil for T boost, but don't take olive leaf extract or else lower T. you can't argue with the studies
for example SNS Inhibit E contains olive leaf extract. better check whatever supps you're taking so it doesn't have olive leaf extract in it
You realize that Oleuropein is a bioactive of Olive Leaf Extract right?Oleuropein increases test, which is found in olives, olive oil, olive leaf extract. that study showing increased T didn't use olive leaf extract
the study i linked showing decreased T used olive leaf extract. so olive leaf extract has **** in it that makes the Oleuropein T boosting effects not work
therefor: eat olives or olive oil for T boost, but don't take olive leaf extract or else lower T. you can't argue with the studies
for example SNS Inhibit E contains olive leaf extract. better check whatever supps you're taking so it doesn't have olive leaf extract in it
reread my 2nd post, can't really break it down any further, i don't get how u don't understand it. i clearly made my point of how olive leaf extract lowers T. just cause olive leaf extract has Oleuropein doesn't mean olive leaf extract increases T, as proven by the study, it did the opposite. get Oleuropein from other sources if u want T boostYou realize that Oleuropein is a bioactive of Olive Leaf Extract right?
Edit: just coming back because I’m having a hard time unraveling what you are saying. Feel I’m missing something in translation. You agree Oleuropein can increase test? Oleuropein is extracted from Olive Leaf so I’m missing how you can say that boosts test but you can’t take it via Olive Leaf Extract? Then how? Maybe there is a constituent that decreases, but I think I’m missing how it’s ok to throw away one study but take another.
olive leaf extract indeed many health benefits, but the point of this thread is olive leaf extract lowers T as proven by the studyAnd you didn't really absorb what I said about other benefits.
Ok so where do we get Oleuropein from if not from Olive Extracts?reread my 2nd post, can't really break it down any further, i don't get how u don't understand it. i clearly made my point of how olive leaf extract lowers T. just cause olive leaf extract has Oleuropein doesn't mean olive leaf extract increases T, as proven by the study, it did the opposite. get Oleuropein from other sources if u want T boost
olive leaf extract indeed many health benefits, but the point of this thread is olive leaf extract lowers T as proven by the study
see, u definitely didn't read/understand my postsOk so where do we get Oleuropein from if not from Olive Extracts?
I feel like you are being condescending but I don’t think you understand what you are saying.
Ok nvm this isn’t worth my time.see, u definitely didn't read/understand my posts
my 2nd post literally answered your question on where to get Oleuropein
instead of admitting your faults like a man you cop outOk nvm this isn’t worth my time.
I did. I'm not sure why it came up that way for you. It's not doing that for me. That being said, if you take a moment to click the highlighted link it will show you the study in question. Moreover, if you click any of the studies on that page they all discuss fertility increase, testosterone increase, etc. in positive correlation with OLE. The study you found seems to be an outlier.all your links look like this:
should link to the study, not google's search results
ok your studies checked out, good stuff
that's how you counter someones argument
Your second post has..."so olive leaf extract has **** in it that makes the Oleuropein T boosting effects not work"reread my 2nd post, can't really break it down any further, i don't get how u don't understand it. i clearly made my point of how olive leaf extract lowers T. just cause olive leaf extract has Oleuropein doesn't mean olive leaf extract increases T, as proven by the study, it did the opposite. get Oleuropein from other sources if u want T boost
olive leaf extract indeed many health benefits, but the point of this thread is olive leaf extract lowers T as proven by the study
Nope, he was right. You definitely didn't have a clue what you were talking about.see, u definitely didn't read/understand my posts
my 2nd post literally answered your question on where to get Oleuropein
Well played. He gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe HE wasn't the one understanding correctly - something you never even considered for yourself - and then when he realized that, nope, you have no clue and it wasn't worth arguing over - you attack his manhood? I wish you could see how funny this is, but the irony has given me a good laugh.instead of admitting your faults like a man you cop out
could have saved this thread useless back and forth posts
back to the point: olive leaf extract lowers T
For the record, Resolve never really countered your argument. He merely asked questions to try to understand your argument better because it didn't even make logical sense and he was giving you the benefit of the doubt. He may have suggested a couple of ideas to consider along side this, but he never even said you were wrong haha. He's pretty much the one guy in here who tried to let you clarify and explain and you blasted him for it.ok your studies checked out, good stuff
that's how you counter someones argument
interested in a negotiating job with IRS for me?Hey, at least (after some efforts on my part) he admitted that he was wrong.
That's rare. Kudos.
I don't negotiate with terrorists.interested in a negotiating job with IRS for me?
Oh, related to this... we’ll soon actually find out how much of a concern this is. 5g/day for 6 months of creatine mono. Was supposed to start in April, unsure if it did.This feels like when that one creatine study in 2009 came out that showed a DHT increase, and people freaked out that creatine was going to cause their hair to fall out
Oh, related to this... we’ll soon actually find out how much of a concern this is. 5g/day for 6 months of creatine mono. Was supposed to start in April, unsure if it did.This feels like when that one creatine study in 2009 came out that showed a DHT increase, and people freaked out that creatine was going to cause their hair to fall out
Not a married man, are you?I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Olive leaf extract? What's the extracted component that lowers T? I could say that apple extract kills you. Theres so many components in apples lolinstead of admitting your faults like a man you cop out
could have saved this thread useless back and forth posts
back to the point: olive leaf extract lowers T
me or the IRS, lol.I don't negotiate with terrorists.
It is rare and good to see. Credit for that.Hey, at least (after some efforts on my part) he admitted that he was wrong.
That's rare. Kudos.
Yeah, this took some patience.It is rare and good to see. Credit for that.
However, again he demonstrated the same flaw in his approach with you. You postsd studies and he couldn't follow the links and accused you of being the one with the issue first, when he was the one that had the misunderstanding to begin with.
I don't mean to be a jerk, or pile on. It is also good read he brought a new study to light, we could have 100 studies and believe something works one way and then a single study starts turning things on its head. And I appreciate conviction in your ideas.
I have certainly become more ornery since the lockdown so maybe it is me and I am falling into the same trap.
Nice. It's supposed to be really good for skin health.Oof I sure hope not, I've been on OLE for literally 17 years straight. Haven't noticed any issues except for looking younger than my age and killing off bad bacteria and viruses!
One of my Staples. When I feel a cold sore coming on I double my dose, knocks it out. Won't be with out it.Oof I sure hope not, I've been on OLE for literally 17 years straight. Haven't noticed any issues except for looking younger than my age and killing off bad bacteria and viruses!
Astragalus is another good immune builder. When I feel a cold coming on, I reach for the Astragalus.One of my Staples. When I feel a cold sore coming on I double my dose, knocks it out. Won't be with out it.
I've heard good about it. I get some in my optimize T and furosap in the form of astragin. I'll have to research it. Thanks 4 the heads up.Astragalus is another good immune builder. When I feel a cold coming on, I reach for the Astragalus.
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