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Donald Trump running for president

thebigt said:
not condemning the looting and rioting was a boneheaded play by democrats, but i'm not willing to give the election to trump yet---he is perfectly capable of boneheaded moves also.
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"Boneheaded" is an understatement on behalf of the democrats...Biden has full blown dementia. He has no chance. TRUMP 2020
 
nostrum420 said:
There is a market on the right for people of a given minority criticizing their own community. They made money on this model and I doubt their condemnations of their own community are 100% genuine and in no way monetarily driven. I'd file this under healthy skepticism.
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john bolton comes to mind. the money was icing on the cake, i think his major motivation is/was revenge.

the germans have a saying...revenge is a dish best served cold.
 
thebigt said:
not condemning the looting and rioting was a boneheaded play by democrats, but i'm not willing to give the election to trump yet---he is perfectly capable of boneheaded moves also.
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the former vice president said. "It's an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that gust and shutters businesses that serve the community is not."

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nostrum420 said:
A lot of them did.
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if you are not a avid news follower the appearance was democrats did not condemn the rioting and looting...i am sure there are exceptions, there always are---but in todays world appearance beats reality.
 
thebigt said:
john bolton comes to mind. the money was icing on the cake, i think his major motivation is/was revenge.

the germans have a saying...revenge is a dish best served cold.
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Nah, he wanted the money, otherwise he would have testified.
 
thebigt said:
if you are not a avid news follower the appearance was democrats did not condemn the rioting and looting...i am sure there are exceptions, there always are---but in todays world appearance beats reality.
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I think that's the message presented to the audience that's receptive to it.
 
nostrum420 said:
the former vice president said. "It's an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that gust and shutters businesses that serve the community is not."

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see, i did not even know biden said that...i'm willing to bet there are many who didn't...a ton of people have tuned out on following politics, but they know about the rioting and looting and biden holding a presser in his basement isn't the big thing it once would have been...this is where trump has both advantage and disadvantage, he is in your face and people know when trump says or does something-be it good or bad.
 
nostrum420 said:
Nah, he wanted the money, otherwise he would have testified.
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he made a decent remark about that, he said he was pissed at the charges and that they could have charged trump with real, provable crimes.

he bidded his time until close to election where he felt he could do the most harm and get his revenge, imo.
 
thebigt said:
he made a decent remark about that, he said he was pissed at the charges and that they could have charged trump with real, provable crimes.

he bidded his time until close to election where he felt he could do the most harm and get his revenge, imo.
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Hmmm, maybe. IMO, he should have waited a bit longer if that was his aim but I think your theory has merit. I still believe the 2mil played a role in his motivations though.
 
nostrum420 said:
Hmmm, maybe. IMO, he should have waited a bit longer if that was his aim but I think your theory has merit. I still believe the 2mil played a role in his motivations though.
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i think the publisher forced his hand, if up to him he probably would have waited a couple months.
 
nostrum420 said:
There is a market on the right for people of a given minority criticizing their own community. They made money on this model and I doubt their condemnations of their own community are 100% genuine and in no way monetarily driven. I'd file this under healthy skepticism.
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There is also a strong market from the political side to manipulate young minorities to divide and separate the nation and get people fighting with one another distracting from real issues....or exploiting a real issue to distract from even larger issues. BLM can be easily politically weaponized by special interest groups. Its simple guerilla warfare tactics.

This doest go one way and it has nothing to do with skin color. Its all power and politics.
 
nostrum420 said:
There is a market on the right for people of a given minority criticizing their own community. They made money on this model and I doubt their condemnations of their own community are 100% genuine and in no way monetarily driven. I'd file this under healthy skepticism.
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It may not genuinely have started monetarily driven, but millions of dollars flooding in now and even if BLM gets 100% of what they want today there is no way in hell they are going to break it apart and stop that cash flow tomorrow just because they got what they want. They will want more. Its just natural with any political organization such as BLM.
 
ax1 said:
There is also a strong market from the political side to manipulate young minorities to divide and separate the nation and get people fighting with one another distracting from real issues....or exploiting a real issue to distract from even larger issues. BLM can be easily politically weaponized by special interest groups. Its simple guerilla warfare tactics.

This doest go one way and it has nothing to do with skin color. Its all power and politics.
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Free market fundamentalism can be weaponized the same way. All weaponized ideologies matter.
 
ax1 said:
It may not genuinely have started monetarily driven, but millions of dollars flooding in now and even if BLM gets 100% of what they want today there is no way in hell they are going to break it apart and stop that cash flow tomorrow just because they got what they want. They will want more. Its just natural with any political organization such as BLM.
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Or the libertarian party. All corrupt political organizations matter.
 
nostrum420 said:
Or the libertarian party. All corrupt political organizations matter.
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Yes I agree, thats why my soul is not loyal to any party, but what I choose usually always ends up being least worse for us all, LOL!!!!
 
nostrum420 said:
Get ready for gun control:

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the title is misleading....it should be AGM all guns matter....go into a gun store, i would be willing to bet the shelves are empty.

guns truly are non-discriminatory, sales are up for all walks of life.

anti-gun is another loser for democrat politicians.
 
thebigt said:
the title is misleading....it should be AGM all guns matter....go into a gun store, i would be willing to bet the shelves are empty.

guns truly are non-discriminatory, sales are up for all walks of life.

anti-gun is another loser for democrat politicians.
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I hiiiiiighly doubt gun stores in the US are out of product.
 
nostrum420 said:
I hiiiiiighly doubt gun stores in the US are out of product.
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go see for yourself...they get guns, they sell the guns. ammo is incredibly hard to get.

i am being serious here!!! don't rely on google, go see for yourself.
 
nostrum420 said:
All far left anti-gun liberals matter.
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Absolutely, thats why I ferociocly defend their gun rights so they can finally be free and American for a change and go shoot up some turkeys and other crap and defend their homes because there are no more cops to call for help.
 
ax1 said:
Absolutely, thats why I ferociocly defend their gun rights so they can finally be free and American for a change and go shoot up some turkeys and other crap and defend their homes because there are no more cops to call for help.
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Why are you so focused on gun rights? Don't all rights matter? Do you think I should have to quarter soldiers?
 
thebigt said:
go see for yourself...they get guns, they sell the guns. ammo is incredibly hard to get.

i am being serious here!!! don't rely on google, go see for yourself.
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I seen some in a few Walmarts here in NY and PA, but mostly cleared and empty.

Im actually wanting to get one finally once things open up but Im going to a local shop. Might go for a Mossberg barrel shotty, home defense Im not into shooting turkeys up and other feathered creatures, but Ill eat a big leg on T day.
 
ax1 said:
Why the hell would I want that? Those are the Obobo people with his Ex.Order National Resources Preparedness Act.
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It's just that when you only talk about 2nd amendment rights, you're minimizing the importance of all other rights.
 
nostrum420 said:
It's just that when you only talk about 2nd amendment rights, you're minimizing the importance of all other rights.
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Which rights am I minimizing? I can only speak for a couple at a time, I have hard enough time typing and chewing on my tea tree oil toothpick at the same time.
 
ax1 said:
Which rights am I minimizing? I can only speak for a couple at a time, I have hard enough time typing and chewing on my tea tree oil toothpick at the same time.
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Is it almost like you're trying to focus on one problem at a time and my drawing the conversation out to broader topics is purposely obtuse?
 
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A liberal progressive I can listen to.
 
nostrum420 said:
Is it almost like you're trying to focus on one problem at a time and my drawing the conversation out to broader topics is purposely obtuse?
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You bought up gun rights, Im not sure where things went wrong here.
 
nostrum420 said:
They're giving out condoms?? It really has been too long!
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Nah, that's planned parenthood..and they kill more people than guns.


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