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Anyone worried if Corona virus keeps spreading the gyms will shut down?

Richie Rich said:
I'm assuming all. But Murphy is a dip **** so really knows but what I do know, July 1st is the target date, all gym staff will have to wear masks and gloves, have full time cleaning people using hospital grade cleaning supplies.
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I’m in pa where the stay at home order is June 4 but my sister lives in Princeton, nj where there is no talk of lifting the order. I’m just wondering how they’ve given a date to open gyms?
 
wfreiling said:
I’m in pa where the stay at home order is June 4 but my sister lives in Princeton, nj where there is no talk of lifting the order. I’m just wondering how they’ve given a date to open gyms?
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I know a couple people who work for the state, I literally found this out a half hour ago, right now they're more concerned about opening the beaches and boardwalks before memorial day than anything else.
 
Richie Rich said:
I know a couple people who work for the state, I literally found this out a half hour ago, right now they're more concerned about opening the beaches and boardwalks before memorial day than anything else.
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Thanks for the info because I’m right across the river so I can deal with a few months of backyard lifting
 
justhere4comm said:
Left the house for the first time in weeks to go get a pizza.
Holy hell it's pandemonium in Florida. Nobody is social distancing. Look for a burst of cases of Covid 19 in FLA.
Why are so many stupid people in FLA?
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Lmao and yet all I see on the internet is Americans blaming trump.. sure he wasn’t excellent... but when you look outside the windows and see how the Americans act outside... it’s pretty easy to see who’s to blame.
 
Mathb33 said:
Lmao and yet all I see on the internet is Americans blaming trump.. sure he wasn’t excellent... but when you look outside the windows and see how the Americans act outside... it’s pretty easy to see who’s to blame.
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He's insisting those GOP governors open up... so yeah, he's to blame.
No testing, no tracing.. only if you work at the WH I suppose.

And, stupid Republicans running around like it's a hoax infecting everyone, and each other.
They are to blame as well. Did you need just to absolve the idiot in chief though?
 
justhere4comm said:
He's insisting those GOP governors open up... so yeah, he's to blame.
No testing, no tracing.. only if you work at the WH I suppose.

And, stupid Republicans running around like it's a hoax infecting everyone, and each other.
They are to blame as well. Did you need just to absolve the idiot in chief though?
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Never said all of this wasn’t true. I’m saying even if you tell someone to jump off a roof and it’s going to be okay it takes one stupid idiot to actually jump off that roof. You get my point? There’s millions of Americans running outside living their life like all of this is a joke, going to the beach,going shopping, chilling outside. These people are as guilty as the governement for all the people dying. THIS is what I’m saying. If everyone stayed home, EVERYONE. And thousands of people were dying because trumps action then yes I would say he’s 100% guilty. Can we really say this is the case now? Y’all staying home being responsible humans?
 
BigGame84 said:
I’m in NY and it seems like Cuomo wants us shutdown all 2020. I’d assume NY and NJ are going to decide the same. July 1 seems plausible.
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Both are dip shits, Murphy wants all beaches and boardwalks open by memorial day and he's said it multiple times, businesses are hurting down here and he's feeling the pressure.

Wildwood NJ beaches and boardwalks already opened this weekend, Cape may by next weekend.

So it's going to be ok for hundreds and hundreds of people on beaches and boardwalks but we can't exercise at the gym? Doesn't make sense but it's not a money maker.
 
Richie Rich said:
Both are dip shits, Murphy wants all beaches and boardwalks open by memorial day and he's said it multiple times, businesses are hurting down here and he's feeling the pressure.

Wildwood NJ beaches and boardwalks already opened this weekend, Cape may by next weekend.

So it's going to be ok for hundreds and hundreds of people on beaches and boardwalks but we can't exercise at the gym? Doesn't make sense but it's not a money maker.
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I just moved back up here from Florida last week and it’s exactly the same there. You can go on the beach but not to the gym.
 
Richie Rich said:
Both are dip shits, Murphy wants all beaches and boardwalks open by memorial day and he's said it multiple times, businesses are hurting down here and he's feeling the pressure.

Wildwood NJ beaches and boardwalks already opened this weekend, Cape may by next weekend.

So it's going to be ok for hundreds and hundreds of people on beaches and boardwalks but we can't exercise at the gym? Doesn't make sense but it's not a money maker.
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I just moved back up here from Florida last week and it’s exactly the same there. You can go on the beach but not to the gym.
 
BigGame84 said:
I’m in NY and it seems like Cuomo wants us shutdown all 2020. I’d assume NY and NJ are going to decide the same. July 1 seems plausible.
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In New York City itself, I was just reading about the spring/summer contact tracing plans along with the goal of testing 20,000 New Yorkers per day by May 25th. The goal being to warn people when they might’ve been exposed to COVID-19.
  • City councilman Mark Levine told Business Insider that such a system is essential to reopening the city, "because otherwise you can't really have confidence that people you see around you in public aren't contagious."
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While it’s a nice theory, they seem to be overlooking the ~5 day incubation period. In which time, a person can transmit the virus before they may or may not be symptomatic, and may or may not receive an accurate test result. Seems like a highly flawed and tedious system that will just scratch the surface.

I suppose they have to start somewhere though under the notion of game plan. If the reopening process proceeds without overwhelming the healthcare system, it will be considered a success. Although things have calmed down currently in NYC hospitals, the healthcare staff are still mentally and physically overwhelmed on a daily basis.
 
Richie Rich said:
Both are dip shits, Murphy wants all beaches and boardwalks open by memorial day and he's said it multiple times, businesses are hurting down here and he's feeling the pressure.

Wildwood NJ beaches and boardwalks already opened this weekend, Cape may by next weekend.

So it's going to be ok for hundreds and hundreds of people on beaches and boardwalks but we can't exercise at the gym? Doesn't make sense but it's not a money maker.
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I live in Upstate NY but go on vacation every August for a week to Wildwood. I always end up at Atilis Gym. The owner is a guy I really like, has had the cops show up and see if he was letting anybody in the gym. He’s had enough of it and I don’t blame him.
 
So how it’s working in NY is King Cuomo requires each designated region in the state to reach 7 requirements to pass a phase of reopening. But these metrics are really only created by the King Cuomo himself. We are so far from reopening it’s ridiculous. The guy loves the power and the attention. I don’t expect gyms to open anytime before July 1 and that’s being optimistic
 
As far as gyms vs beaches, the difference is quite clear.

It’s going to take meticulous cleaning guidelines and other precautions to even make it possible for gyms to be considered “safe.”

At the beach, it’s much easier to social distance (enforced if needed) and stay within your own small network of people. The open air also has huge advantages, and no sanitization measures have to take place when you leave..
 
Ricky10 said:
As far as gyms vs beaches, the difference is quite clear.

It’s going to take meticulous cleaning guidelines and other precautions to even make it possible for gyms to be considered “safe.”

At the beach, it’s much easier to social distance (enforced if needed) and stay within your own small network of people. The open air also has huge advantages, and no sanitization measures have to take place when you leave..
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Exactly.
 
wfreiling said:
I just don’t honestly see any big box gyms opening in the near future, around here at least. I’ve pretty much accepted that.
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Yeah, my gyms thought they were opening next Friday in VA...turns out gyms aren’t part of Phase 1 reopening which I’m surprised anyone thought they were... 🤔
 
GreenMachineX said:
Yeah, my gyms thought they were opening next Friday in VA...turns out gyms aren’t part of Phase 1 reopening which I’m surprised anyone thought they were...
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Well Trump suggested gyms would be in Phase 1 of reopening. So I’m not surprised some people thought they would be. But as we know, this falls on the governor of each state.
 
BigGame84 said:
Well Trump suggested gyms would be in Phase 1 of reopening. So I’m not surprised some people thought they would be. But as we know, this falls on the governor of each state.
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That’s true. At some point, I’m pretty sure they were phase 3 and were bumped to phase 1 though.
 
He’s such an authority on gyms. The man is on record about life force diminishing from exercise. Lol.
 
Gyms are barely even mentioned in the UK but when they are it’s normally alongside pubs and restaurants (indoor)......there is even talk those places could be early 2021 in the UK so I ain’t holding my breathe I’ll be reopening the gym anytime soon tbh
 
BigGame84 said:
I live in Upstate NY but go on vacation every August for a week to Wildwood. I always end up at Atilis Gym. The owner is a guy I really like, has had the cops show up and see if he was letting anybody in the gym. He’s had enough of it and I don’t blame him.
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I go every August also bro. I always get my 2 week pass and go. Chris the owner is a great human being. I love that gym. He's the ultimate gym bro.
 
BigGame84 said:
I live in Upstate NY but go on vacation every August for a week to Wildwood. I always end up at Atilis Gym. The owner is a guy I really like, has had the cops show up and see if he was letting anybody in the gym. He’s had enough of it and I don’t blame him.
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I go every August also bro. I always get my 2 week pass and go. Chris the owner is a great human being. I love that gym. He's the ultimate gym bro.
 
wow-what I difference a day makes-eh? yesterday I was at walmart and around half of people I saw there weren't wearing masks...today my daughter was there and tells me everyone she saw there was wearing masks.

I was very pleasantly surprised to hear this!!!
 
thebigt said:
wow-what I difference a day makes-eh? yesterday I was at walmart and around half of people I saw there weren't wearing masks...today my daughter was there and tells me everyone she saw there was wearing masks.

I was very pleasantly surprised to hear this!!!
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It’s gonna be interesting to see what’s determined in 10 years after the dust settles, the research comes out and we have the benefit of hindsight. I’m sure much of the best advice we’re being given will turn out to be counterproductive. Just as an example, they told people to pour peroxide on wounds for decades. Cut your finger? Dump peroxide on it! Turns out, after research and study, that’s about the worst thing you can do. Point being, I’m already seeing it suggested that the mask thing is bogus. The virus particle is too small for most masks to catch and the cloth masks, after youre breathing on it simply provides a warm moist environment for the virus to live on. I get it, all we can do is follow the advice the experts give us, but I’ve gotta believe that no matter how well intentioned it is so much of it will turn out to be wrong. It’s just like making foodservice workers wear gloves. Gloves don’t inherently make things any safer. If they’re not being changed after literally every time they touch something- and they’re not- then it’s no different than bare hands, and their potential for cross contact and such.
 
BigGame84 said:
Well Trump suggested gyms would be in Phase 1 of reopening. So I’m not surprised some people thought they would be. But as we know, this falls on the governor of each state.
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land ultimately, the gym can open well after it’s allowed, and when they feel secure in doing so. Technically, gyms are allowed to reopen here in GA but LA fitness has yet to do so.
 
jrock645 said:
It’s gonna be interesting to see what’s determined in 10 years after the dust settles, the research comes out and we have the benefit of hindsight. I’m sure much of the best advice we’re being given will turn out to be counterproductive. Just as an example, they told people to pour peroxide on wounds for decades. Cut your finger? Dump peroxide on it! Turns out, after research and study, that’s about the worst thing you can do. Point being, I’m already seeing it suggested that the mask thing is bogus. The virus particle is too small for most masks to catch and the cloth masks, after youre breathing on it simply provides a warm moist environment for the virus to live on. I get it, all we can do is follow the advice the experts give us, but I’ve gotta believe that no matter how well intentioned it is so much of it will turn out to be wrong. It’s just like making foodservice workers wear gloves. Gloves don’t inherently make things any safer. If they’re not being changed after literally every time they touch something- and they’re not- then it’s no different than bare hands, and their potential for cross contact and such.
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masks have been used in hospitals, doctor offices for well over 10 years. they aren't about protecting the wearer they protect others from the wearer. if everyone is wearing a mask there is much less chance of disease spreading.
 
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jrock645 said:
It’s gonna be interesting to see what’s determined in 10 years after the dust settles, the research comes out and we have the benefit of hindsight. I’m sure much of the best advice we’re being given will turn out to be counterproductive. Just as an example, they told people to pour peroxide on wounds for decades. Cut your finger? Dump peroxide on it! Turns out, after research and study, that’s about the worst thing you can do. Point being, I’m already seeing it suggested that the mask thing is bogus. The virus particle is too small for most masks to catch and the cloth masks, after youre breathing on it simply provides a warm moist environment for the virus to live on. I get it, all we can do is follow the advice the experts give us, but I’ve gotta believe that no matter how well intentioned it is so much of it will turn out to be wrong. It’s just like making foodservice workers wear gloves. Gloves don’t inherently make things any safer. If they’re not being changed after literally every time they touch something- and they’re not- then it’s no different than bare hands, and their potential for cross contact and such.
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Masks can be debatable, and they have been. I know many of the people out and about in the general public are not using fresh masks every time, or every day for that matter. I suspect a majority are also not washing or sanitizing their hands every time they apply or remove it. If such a person happens to be infected and wearing a non N95 mask, the velocity of the viral droplets would still be much more contained and less likely to infect others. All of our COVID rule outs in the hospital must wear a surgical mask, particularly when placed in a non-negative pressure room.

In regard to COVID protection, gloves definitely offer a false sense of security and the general public are better off just washing/sanitizing their hands- which must be done anyway when taking gloves off. They are mostly just valuable to healthcare workers as a physical barrier to bodily fluids and secretions etc.

While our volume of confirmed COVID pt’s is currently down to zero due to the stay at home orders etc. I remain quite impressed/surprised that we only have one confirmation of a hospital employee contracting the virus. We obviously have to wear surgical masks at all times throughout the hospital.
 
Ricky10 said:
Masks can be debatable, and they have been. I know many of the people out and about in the general public are not using fresh masks every time, or every day for that matter. I suspect a majority are also not washing or sanitizing their hands every time they apply or remove it. If such a person happens to be infected and wearing a non N95 mask, the velocity of the viral droplets would still be much more contained and less likely to infect others. All of our COVID rule outs in the hospital must wear a surgical mask, particularly when placed in a non-negative pressure room.

In regard to COVID protection, gloves definitely offer a false sense of security and the general public are better off just washing/sanitizing their hands- which must be done anyway when taking gloves off. They are mostly just valuable to healthcare workers as a physical barrier to bodily fluids and secretions etc.

While our volume of confirmed COVID pt’s is currently down to zero due to the stay at home orders etc. I remain quite impressed/surprised that we only have one confirmation of a hospital employee contracting the virus. We obviously have to wear surgical masks at all times throughout the hospital.
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you pretty much just affirmed what I have been saying about masks..they are more for the benefit of those around the wearer than for the wearer, particularly where a person may be infected and not be showing any symptoms but still contagious.
 
Just in case anyone missed this:

China Asked WHO To Delay Pandemic Announcement, Deny Human-To-Human Transmission: German Intelligence

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Just in case anybody was still questioning why Trump would cut off WHO funding :)
 
Whisky said:
Gyms are barely even mentioned in the UK but when they are it’s normally alongside pubs and restaurants (indoor)......there is even talk those places could be early 2021 in the UK so I ain’t holding my breathe I’ll be reopening the gym anytime soon tbh
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Yeah, I was waiting for Boris to mention gyms last night in his ambiguous message. Apparently its now okay to go play footie in the park with my nan but nothing yet about training. Have a suspicion that it'll be a "book a time slot to train" job once the gyms do open here
 
Ricky10 said:
Just in case anyone missed this:

China Asked WHO To Delay Pandemic Announcement, Deny Human-To-Human Transmission: German Intelligence

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Barn1234 said:
Yeah, I was waiting for Boris to mention gyms last night in his ambiguous message. Apparently its now okay to go play footie in the park with my nan but nothing yet about training. Have a suspicion that it'll be a "book a time slot to train" job once the gyms do open here
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yeah I think we are lumped in with hairdressers etc tbh mate. 4th July is the absolute earliest it seems but depending on what restrictions are put on it depends on how many open I think. The bigger chains might be able to plexiglass everything up but the smaller guys might struggle. My places are higher priced more specialist so we naturally have more space per member but whether that gets taken into account remains to be seen.

honestly I’m expecting August.....
 
Whisky said:
yeah I think we are lumped in with hairdressers etc tbh mate. 4th July is the absolute earliest it seems but depending on what restrictions are put on it depends on how many open I think. The bigger chains might be able to plexiglass everything up but the smaller guys might struggle. My places are higher priced more specialist so we naturally have more space per member but whether that gets taken into account remains to be seen.

honestly I’m expecting August.....
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Yeah I was worried you'd say August haha, oh well. It's going to be interesting to see how the gyms will operate though, cross fit boxes may struggle with classes etc. May have to invest in a rack, bar and plates then, dbs, resistance bands and a kettlebell aren't quite cutting it.
 
Barn1234 said:
Yeah I was worried you'd say August haha, oh well. It's going to be interesting to see how the gyms will operate though, cross fit boxes may struggle with classes etc. May have to invest in a rack, bar and plates then, dbs, resistance bands and a kettlebell aren't quite cutting it.
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yeah if you can find some stuff I would personally bro. I moved my equipment into my garage so I’ve got enough weights, bars etc but I’m even considering selling some of the resistance machines we have as it’s going to be a while before they get used. It might even put us out of business if no more gov support so selling while the prices are decent is possibly a better move.
 
Whisky said:
yeah if you can find some stuff I would personally bro. I moved my equipment into my garage so I’ve got enough weights, bars etc but I’m even considering selling some of the resistance machines we have as it’s going to be a while before they get used. It might even put us out of business if no more gov support so selling while the prices are decent is possibly a better move.
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Ah man, sorry to hear that. I hope you guys don't go out of business. I've been looking all over the internet for affordable kit but its like hyperinflation has hit haha
 
Barn1234 said:
Ah man, sorry to hear that. I hope you guys don't go out of business. I've been looking all over the internet for affordable kit but its like hyperinflation has hit haha
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it’s cool bro. One of those things. Hopefully the government support the sectors that have to stay closed for longer but we’ll see.

everywhere has sold out so the second hand market is basically priced like new. When the gyms do reopen and everyone starts off loading it that’s the time to set up a great home gym 😃
 
I’m not the smartest guy...I know it and I’m okay with it. So, I’m trying to figure out how everywhere is still short on meat by the end of the day every day when there’s limits on amounts one can buy. Is the supply chain that jacked up, or are people hitting multiple grocery stores every day continuously stock piling?
 
I'm going to say the latter in order to keep consistency with the human condition of being a scoundrel scamming society filled with semi-grifting selfish self-centered a-holes. Call me jaded, but it's based on experience.

We take what we need, and if people only did that, they would too.
It's also another possibility. People are easily spooked into hoarding. As I stated before, one can create a stampede on items like this, and we saw it with paper goods. Just the mere mention of shut-down and shortages...

We'll just eat pasta lol.
Noodles and butter with some cheese is all I really need.
 
justhere4comm said:
I'm going to say the latter in order to keep consistency with the human condition of being a scoundrel scamming society filled with semi-grifting selfish self-centered a-holes. Call me jaded, but it's based on experience.

We take what we need, and if people only did that, they would too.
It's also another possibility. People are easily spooked into hoarding. As I stated before, one can create a stampede on items like this, and we saw it with paper goods. Just the mere mention of shut-down and shortages...

We'll just eat pasta lol.
Noodles and butter with some cheese is all I really need.
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I hate that you’re probably right. They’re making it really tough to stay keto though lol.
If I have to break keto, I’ll just go vegan and have to live with that Protein Plus Pasta and a couple hundred extra grams of pea protein I guess...
 
GreenMachineX said:
I hate that you’re probably right. They’re making it really tough to stay keto though lol.
If I have to break keto, I’ll just go vegan and have to live with that Protein Plus Pasta and a couple hundred extra grams of pea protein I guess...
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I Just ordered this from amazon. They get an "A" from fakespot.com
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Yeah the limit on meat is annoying, I've befriended a local farmhouse butcher here in Devon to get around that. But the fact supermarkets have stopped selling multipacks of tuna and beans has become a real pain in the backside!
 
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