Tell SNS What You Would Like to See From Us (2020 Edition)

[determination]

Thank you for the feedback. I absolutely agree that M-Test and Anabolic Effect work great for libido.

With your suggestions, I think/hope you'll be very happy soon. We have a blood pressure product lined up to go into production and Inflammation Assist XT and Sleep Assist XT in production now

Anti-Aging - Definitely interested in doing one of these. There are so many different directions we could go with this, I would love to see people's opinions on what ingredients that they would like to see in it.

Heart Health - I would love to continue to hear people's opinions on what they'd like to see in one of these. Definitely willing to do one.

Eye Formula - I want to do one of these badly and have been working on a formulation for it for awhile, it just keeps getting put behind other things. I would love to hear peoples opinions of what they'd like to see in it.

Endurance Formula - I thought about something like this. The biggest problem is that these traditionally haven't sold well. But I'd love to hear people's thoughts as to what they'd like to see in it and also if they'd like to see Beta Alanine in it; I know its a great ingredient for endurance but some people hate the tingles from it.

Anti-Aging I would like to see target mitochondria health. Maybe Sirtuins and AMPK. Pqq is an ingredient I would to see

Heart health- Probably some ingredients like Arjuna, Coq10, nattokinase, amealpeptide. Maybe something that would be stackable with the blood pressure product.

Eye formula- lutein, zeaxanthin, astaxanthin, mirtogenol, saffron. I would like to see one address eye health from several angles. Ocular pressure being one of them.

Endurance formula- I really liked Evomuse Cardiotryx, it seems to really increase cardiovascular endurance. It kept my heart rate from maxing out as easily and made it really difficult to get out of breath. Maybe a product that targets muscular endurance would be good. Not really a fan of beta alanine tingles, but I think there might be a form of it with less tingles.

 

[sns8778]

Anti-Aging I would like to see target mitochondria health. Maybe Sirtuins and AMPK. Pqq is an ingredient I would to see

Heart health- Probably some ingredients like Arjuna, Coq10, nattokinase, amealpeptide. Maybe something that would be stackable with the blood pressure product.

Eye formula- lutein, zeaxanthin, astaxanthin, mirtogenol, saffron. I would like to see one address eye health from several angles. Ocular pressure being one of them.

Endurance formula- I really liked Evomuse Cardiotryx, it seems to really increase cardiovascular endurance. It kept my heart rate from maxing out as easily and made it really difficult to get out of breath. Maybe a product that targets muscular endurance would be good. Not really a fan of beta alanine tingles, but I think there might be a form of it with less tingles.

Anti-Aging - thank you for the suggestions.

Heart Health - thank you for the suggestions. What about Garlic? AmealPeptide would not be in the heart health one if its in the blood pressure one bc of the high cost of the ingredient though.

Eye formula - thank you. I agree, I want it to target eye health from multiple angles as well. I like Bilberry as well.

Endurance - if the pricing on the Beta Alanine without the tingles is as expensive as it was when it first came out, I don't think it is a very good candidate to be properly dosed in a formula. I'll re-check and see if its came down any. The idea I was thinking for endurance would be meant to help both cardiovascular and muscular endurance.

 

[sns8778]

I wanted to ask for opinions on a couple of the ingredients mentioned in the thread.

I would like to get more opinions on the following - whether people like and want them or not, dosages, and any specific standardizations on:

Spilanthes acmella

Cistanche

Black Ginger Root

Ecklonia Cava

Acacetin

Lodhra (Symplocos racemosa)

 

[determination]

Anti-Aging - thank you for the suggestions.

Heart Health - thank you for the suggestions. What about Garlic? AmealPeptide would not be in the heart health one if its in the blood pressure one bc of the high cost of the ingredient though.

Eye formula - thank you. I agree, I want it to target eye health from multiple angles as well. I like Bilberry as well.

Endurance - if the pricing on the Beta Alanine without the tingles is as expensive as it was when it first came out, I don't think it is a very good candidate to be properly dosed in a formula. I'll re-check and see if its came down any. The idea I was thinking for endurance would be meant to help both cardiovascular and muscular endurance.

Garlic would be a great ingredient for a heart health product. I think ecklonia cava could fit too. It has a lot of properties that would benefit heart health.

Bilberry is one of the ingredients in Mirtogenol.

 

[hsk]

The 2 single ingredient products I'd like most overall would be:

1. Anacylus Pyrethum DC Root Extract

2. Cistanche

 

[aaronuconn]

I think if you’re trying to differentiate an SNS anabolic, you could make it around bulking/digestion. Anacyclus, Lodhra, Gentian, Slippery Elm, PepZin GI, a single-strain probiotic that is focused around protein absorption. Could be solid.

 

[sns8778]

Garlic would be a great ingredient for a heart health product. I think ecklonia cava could fit too. It has a lot of properties that would benefit heart health.

Bilberry is one of the ingredients in Mirtogenol.

I hadn't had the chance to look into Mirtogenol yet but had added it to my list to look into

 

[sns8778]

The 2 single ingredient products I'd like most overall would be:

1. Anacylus Pyrethum DC Root Extract

2. Cistanche

Anacyclus I'm assuming you'd want to see 750 to 800 mg per cap?

Any particular dosage you'd like to see on Cistanche?

 

[sns8778]

I think if you’re trying to differentiate an SNS anabolic, you could make it around bulking/digestion. Anacyclus, Lodhra, Gentian, Slippery Elm, PepZin GI, a single-strain probiotic that is focused around protein absorption. Could be solid.

I like the idea you have. It probably wouldn't be for the SNS anabolic, but I could see doing that as a separate product. The idea that seems to be forming for the SNS anabolic could be used during bulking or recomp. Also, Anacyclus takes up so much capsule space bc of the dosage needed, it may be better suited as a single ingredient product or definitely with ingredients that have lower dosages themselves. If Anacyclus was dosed at 3200 mg., then that's a minimum 4 caps per day devoted to just that.

 

[booneman77]

Yikes on the thought of cissus powder haha... anyone asking for that must not have cracked a cap open before!

Any thoughts on something like a pure strength boosting formula? Maybe even something totally acute acting?.... Just spitballing an idea as obviously being able to add extra weight on the bar should directly lead to more mass, but I think anyone would be happy to see acute strength increases from something natural (if possible even)

 

[mavup]

I wanted to ask for opinions on a couple of the ingredients mentioned in the thread.

I would like to get more opinions on the following - whether people like and want them or not, dosages, and any specific standardizations on:

Spilanthes acmella

Cistanche

Black Ginger Root

Ecklonia Cava

Acacetin

Lodhra (Symplocos racemosa)

I would love to see a single ingredient Ecklonia cava. EK was awesome for me. I took it in fd2 and also as a single ingredient (Seanol standardized extract) from 400-1200 mg per day, 400mg 2x per day seemed to be the sweet spot. It was ergogenic (pumps/vasodilation and endurance), has nootropic effects, and improves my skin quality when I take it consistently. As long as I can afford it, I take EK.

 

[sns8778]

I would love to see a single ingredient Ecklonia cava. EK was awesome for me. I took it in fd2 and also as a single ingredient (Seanol standardized extract) from 400-1200 mg per day, 400mg 2x per day seemed to be the sweet spot. It was ergogenic (pumps/vasodilation and endurance), has nootropic effects, and improves my skin quality when I take it consistently. As long as I can afford it, I take EK.

The Seanol branded version looks to be very expensive on this. I'll look into the differences between that version and the regular. Sometimes branded versions are great and well worth it; sometimes you can get the same or close and save a lot of money by going with a regular extract. I really appreciate the insight on this.

 

[TheMrMuscle]

I have some specifics areas that in passionate about:

• Peri workout nutrition and supplementation
• Gut Health
• Nutrient partitioning
• Daily ergogenic
• Micronutrients

So based on those, these are products id love to see your take on:

• Intra workout and possible post workout
• Probiotics and digestive enzymes with a SNS/CEL spin
• Greens product with maybe some cordyceps thrown in

You already have a great GDA and the daily Ergogenic is on its way (which im super pumped about).
So thats my short list

 

[booneman77]

Definitely interested in a gut product... digestive enzymes and probiotics all-in-one would be amazing

 

[mavup]

The Seanol branded version looks to be very expensive on this. I'll look into the differences between that version and the regular. Sometimes branded versions are great and well worth it; sometimes you can get the same or close and save a lot of money by going with a regular extract. I really appreciate the insight on this.

Please update if you find out more! I definitely wouldn’t mind paying less for a regular extract if it is comparable.

 

[sns8778]

Definitely interested in a gut product... digestive enzymes and probiotics all-in-one would be amazing

We would be open to doing a guy product but I would need people to be specific as to what they wanted. For example, there are so many probiotics on the market that the possibilities are almost endless.

 

[sns8778]

I have some specifics areas that in passionate about:

• Peri workout nutrition and supplementation
• Gut Health
• Nutrient partitioning
• Daily ergogenic
• Micronutrients

So based on those, these are products id love to see your take on:

• Intra workout and possible post workout
• Probiotics and digestive enzymes with a SNS/CEL spin
• Greens product with maybe some cordyceps thrown in

You already have a great GDA and the daily Ergogenic is on its way (which im super pumped about).
So thats my short list

Thank you for posting ideas here.

We are open to doing a probiotic and/or gut health formula but would want some specific ideas from people on what they would like. There are so many options in this category.

Intra-Workout - we are going to be doing an EAA product and had considered doing a more complete Intra but this category has historically never sold well outside of BCAA's. I would love to hear input on what you'd like to see.

Greens product - this is something that looks popular from seeing other companies doing them but this is the first time we've ever had anyone suggest us doing one. I'm definitely open to it and would love to see some ideas

 

[sns8778]

Libido products have come up several times in this thread.

I would love to hear people's thoughts on what they would like to see in one (and dosages if possible).

Here are some ingredients that I commonly think of when I think of this category:

Fadogia
Tribulus
Spilanthes (could really drive up the cost of the product though)
Maca
Stinging Nettle
Eurycoma Longifolia
Horny Goat Weed
Panax Ginseng
Cndium Monnieri (std. to min 70%)

I've also seen Maral Root mentioned a couple times for this.

Considerations for inclusion would be wanting to keep the price reasonable and also the number of capsules per day reasonable. This could add up quick to be a lot of capsules per day bc the dosages on many of these are so high.

 

[booneman77]

Libido products have come up several times in this thread.

I would love to hear people's thoughts on what they would like to see in one (and dosages if possible).

Here are some ingredients that I commonly think of when I think of this category:

Fadogia
Tribulus
Spilanthes (could really drive up the cost of the product though)
Maca
Stinging Nettle
Eurycoma Longifolia
Horny Goat Weed
Panax Ginseng
Cndium Monnieri (std. to min 70%)

I've also seen Maral Root mentioned a couple times for this.

Considerations for inclusion would be wanting to keep the price reasonable and also the number of capsules per day reasonable. This could add up quick to be a lot of capsules per day bc the dosages on many of these are so high.

The other factor I would consider is daily dosing vs acute effects... for something like a libido product, I would think many people would expect almost immediate, acute effects.

 

[GQdaLEGEND]

Libido products have come up several times in this thread.

I would love to hear people's thoughts on what they would like to see in one (and dosages if possible).

Here are some ingredients that I commonly think of when I think of this category:

Fadogia
Tribulus
Spilanthes (could really drive up the cost of the product though)
Maca
Stinging Nettle
Eurycoma Longifolia
Horny Goat Weed
Panax Ginseng
Cndium Monnieri (std. to min 70%)

I've also seen Maral Root mentioned a couple times for this.

Considerations for inclusion would be wanting to keep the price reasonable and also the number of capsules per day reasonable. This could add up quick to be a lot of capsules per day bc the dosages on many of these are so high.

Maca
Long Jack
Ginseng
Eurycoma Longifolia

would be sweet .. 2 caps before doing the deed

 

[sns8778]

The other factor I would consider is daily dosing vs acute effects... for something like a libido product, I would think many people would expect almost immediate, acute effects.

If we do a product for libido, its going to be for the purpose of increasing libido/sex drive. Of course you hope that people get a fast effect off of it, but we're wanting to increase desire and performance and the ingredients that truly do that need to be taken daily for best results.

(If anyone would be expecting a spiked sex pill type of effect, they wouldn't be getting that from us. It amazes me the number of companies that are still doing stuff like that even after so many have gotten fined and people going to jail.)

 

[aaronuconn]

Thank you for posting ideas here.

We are open to doing a probiotic and/or gut health formula but would want some specific ideas from people on what they would like. There are so many options in this category.

Intra-Workout - we are going to be doing an EAA product and had considered doing a more complete Intra but this category has historically never sold well outside of BCAA's. I would love to hear input on what you'd like to see.

Greens product - this is something that looks popular from seeing other companies doing them but this is the first time we've ever had anyone suggest us doing one. I'm definitely open to it and would love to see some ideas

I’d probably opt for BC30 or GBI-30, 6086 for the probiotic in a digestive formula.

I think the bitters, such as Gentian, are highly underrated.

 

[aaronuconn]

Anacyclus I'm assuming you'd want to see 750 to 800 mg per cap?

Any particular dosage you'd like to see on Cistanche?

800mg would probably be best. 2 caps twice a day to get to 3200mg

 

[hsk]

Anacyclus I'm assuming you'd want to see 750 to 800 mg per cap?

Any particular dosage you'd like to see on Cistanche?

Anacylus - 800mg per cap would be ideal. Personally I think this ingredient makes the most sense as a stand alone solo ingredient due to the effective daily dosage (3200mg). Also this ingredient is very versatile and has benefits in multiple categories. Making it a solo ingredient would allow users to create their own stacks or run it solo depending on their goals and needs.

Cistanche - maybe an extract that is something along the lines of 60% Phenylethanoid Glycosides, 22% Echinacoside, 8% Acetoside. Dosage wise maybe 1500mg - 3000mg daily depending on cost and efficacy.

 

[New guy]

Any thoughts on something like a pure strength boosting formula? Maybe even something totally acute acting?.... Just spitballing an idea as obviously being able to add extra weight on the bar should directly lead to more mass, but I think anyone would be happy to see acute strength increases from something natural (if possible even)

This would be amazing, unsure if anything exists but if it did I would be a lifetime customer. Also was looking last night for a well dosed, well priced arimistane supplement made me realize the market is pretty dry. Any interest from you guys in making an arimistane supplement?

 

[BigGame84]

This would be amazing, unsure if anything exists but if it did I would be a lifetime customer. Also was looking last night for a well dosed, well priced arimistane supplement made me realize the market is pretty dry. Any interest from you guys in making an arimistane supplement?

Wasn't amentoflavone supposed to be an acute strength type of supplement?

 

[sns8778]

This would be amazing, unsure if anything exists but if it did I would be a lifetime customer. Also was looking last night for a well dosed, well priced arimistane supplement made me realize the market is pretty dry. Any interest from you guys in making an arimistane supplement?

Look at Muscle Addiction's Eradicate-E - 25 mg. per cap/90 caps per bottle.
You can find it on DPS for 15.99 ea. or 35.99 for 3 bottles with coupon code: DPS10
Link: http://www.dpsnutrition.net/m/385/muscle-addiction.htm

 

[sns8778]

Any thoughts on something like a pure strength boosting formula? Maybe even something totally acute acting?.... Just spitballing an idea as obviously being able to add extra weight on the bar should directly lead to more mass, but I think anyone would be happy to see acute strength increases from something natural (if possible even)

This would be amazing, unsure if anything exists but if it did I would be a lifetime customer.

I'm curious as to what you are thinking and want to make sure I understand clearly. For example, when I think of strength, I always associate lean gains with it and think of things like Magnesium Creatine Chelate, Anabolic Effect, Stano-Plex, etc.

 

[sns8778]

Wasn't amentoflavone supposed to be an acute strength type of supplement?

I think some companies promoted it that way. I think the ingredient itself had potential but was a victim of some companies overhyping it leading to unrealistic expectations and then a couple of people really started bashing it and it just went away.

I never used it I don't think, but from what people I know and trust said they liked it for pumps and erection purposes.

 

[New guy]

I'm curious as to what you are thinking and want to make sure I understand clearly. For example, when I think of strength, I always associate lean gains with it and think of things like Magnesium Creatine Chelate, Anabolic Effect, Stano-Plex, etc.

I guess an analogy would be anavar and halotestin. If anavar is gonna give strength gains and a slight bit of muscle mass then halo is gonna give strength without any size which is what interests me. There's plenty of lean mass supplements but not many focused purely on increasing muscular contraction strength. I don't know of any that currently do this effectively. Bpi looked promising with their strength gainz supplement but I'm not a fan of all the ingredients. Arimistane did this fairly well for me but also put on a few pounds. Something that could give a similar effect without the joint effects that I could run longer would be amazing. A couple lean pounds wouldn't hurt but something more focused on strength than size would be ideal. Speaking of arimistane that 3 bottle deal looks tempting... I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on that.

 

[booneman77]

I'm curious as to what you are thinking and want to make sure I understand clearly. For example, when I think of strength, I always associate lean gains with it and think of things like Magnesium Creatine Chelate, Anabolic Effect, Stano-Plex, etc.

I’m thinking I’m very general terms, just something that gives an acute boost. I hate making a comparison to aas but something like a cheque drop or halotestin that is just a boost to power output.

Creatinol o phosphate is something that for me gives a power boost but it’s not acute so much as over the course of time.

 

[TommyTuffGuy]

Thank you for posting ideas here.

We are open to doing a probiotic and/or gut health formula but would want some specific ideas from people on what they would like. There are so many options in this category.

Intra-Workout - we are going to be doing an EAA product and had considered doing a more complete Intra but this category has historically never sold well outside of BCAA's. I would love to hear input on what you'd like to see.

Greens product - this is something that looks popular from seeing other companies doing them but this is the first time we've ever had anyone suggest us doing one. I'm definitely open to it and would love to see some ideas

as far as that greens product go. There's a gazillion on Amazon and it appears 95% of them use the SAME exact blend/supplier. I'd love to see a REAL "we took time to formulate what makes sense/the best" greens.

 

[Beau]

If we do a product for libido, its going to be for the purpose of increasing libido/sex drive. Of course you hope that people get a fast effect off of it, but we're wanting to increase desire and performance and the ingredients that truly do that need to be taken daily for best results.

(If anyone would be expecting a spiked sex pill type of effect, they wouldn't be getting that from us. It amazes me the number of companies that are still doing stuff like that even after so many have gotten fined and people going to jail.)

Exactly what I would hope for - something taken systematically. If it happens to have pro-erectile side-effects, that would be fine, too.

You have asked for dosage suggestions, but I defer to others. I do not have sufficient experience with these products to suggest intelligently, thus - one of the main reasons I suggested it - because I know there are those that know far more than me (ask almost anyone).

 

[ironkill]

For probiotics, I'd love to see the following:

TWK10 as mentioned earlier
Lactobacillus plantarum PS128
Bifidobacterium longum OLP-01
Bifidobacterium breve B3

All have interesting potential for muscle, recovery and endurance

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

How about SNS cologne with a catchphrase, "Take your smell seriously with SNS" or "Smell your way to another rep with SNS". I could be wrong but I think if you smell something pleasant or wonderful, it has a lot of physiological benefits.

 

[sns8778]

I guess an analogy would be anavar and halotestin. If anavar is gonna give strength gains and a slight bit of muscle mass then halo is gonna give strength without any size which is what interests me. There's plenty of lean mass supplements but not many focused purely on increasing muscular contraction strength. I don't know of any that currently do this effectively. Bpi looked promising with their strength gainz supplement but I'm not a fan of all the ingredients. Arimistane did this fairly well for me but also put on a few pounds. Something that could give a similar effect without the joint effects that I could run longer would be amazing. A couple lean pounds wouldn't hurt but something more focused on strength than size would be ideal. Speaking of arimistane that 3 bottle deal looks tempting... I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on that.

I’m thinking I’m very general terms, just something that gives an acute boost. I hate making a comparison to aas but something like a cheque drop or halotestin that is just a boost to power output.

Creatinol o phosphate is something that for me gives a power boost but it’s not acute so much as over the course of time.

I will keep my eyes open for something like this but am not sure if it really exists on the compliant side of things. Likewise, if you see anything of interest, please let me know.

Creatinol O Phosphate works great and I think it is so underrated. The deal that DPS has on it is incredible and its a shame that more people haven't taken advantage of that and tried it - 450 capsules/500 mg per capsule - for 24.74 w code DPS10:
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^^^ That's a 5 to 7 month supply for less than 25 bucks!

And absolutely, that is a hell of a great deal on that 3 bottle combo on the Eradicate-E.

 

[sns8778]

as far as that greens product go. There's a gazillion on Amazon and it appears 95% of them use the SAME exact blend/supplier. I'd love to see a REAL "we took time to formulate what makes sense/the best" greens.

Amazon is a world of let me copy the one that sells the best to try to take their spot. It isn't about quality of products, its about going after what sells the best and maximizing profits bc Amazon takes approximately 30% in fees for companies that use FBA.

With Greens in general, its easier for companies to use an existing greens blend than it is to buy all the raw materials separately and blend what they feel to be effective. That would be ideal in one sense, but bad in the way that the product would wind up costing so much more than people would probably buy one of the cheaper ones anyway. Just wanted to explain the process there.

Now, with that said, its more possible to take a good strong base blend and add to it.

I'm definitely open to input and suggestions as Greens aren't something I've looked into a lot. I put it on my list to but it will likely be a few weeks before I can bc of so many things going on.

 

[sns8778]

Exactly what I would hope for - something taken systematically. If it happens to have pro-erectile side-effects, that would be fine, too.

You have asked for dosage suggestions, but I defer to others. I do not have sufficient experience with these products to suggest intelligently, thus - one of the main reasons I suggested it - because I know there are those that know far more than me (ask almost anyone).

Great. Thank you for sharing. I'm the same way - I think the point of it would be to increase libido overall. I do think of course a higher libido equals more erections in general.

I have a good idea of the dosages on most of the things I ask for opinions on. I just always like to ask for opinions to see varying points of view. For the libido product, I've had a tentative designed for about a year and updated it a couple of times. The problem is that bc these ingredients take up so much capsule space, we're at 8 caps a day for full dosage on everything. But its so strong if it doesn't increase libido, there's not much hope for the person haha.

 

[sns8778]

For probiotics, I'd love to see the following:

TWK10 as mentioned earlier
Lactobacillus plantarum PS128
Bifidobacterium longum OLP-01
Bifidobacterium breve B3

All have interesting potential for muscle, recovery and endurance

Thank you for the suggestions. I will make a note of these and look into them.

I know about probiotics of course but haven't taken a lot of time to research the different types.

 

[aaronuconn]

Great. Thank you for sharing. I'm the same way - I think the point of it would be to increase libido overall. I do think of course a higher libido equals more erections in general.

I have a good idea of the dosages on most of the things I ask for opinions on. I just always like to ask for opinions to see varying points of view. For the libido product, I've had a tentative designed for about a year and updated it a couple of times. The problem is that bc these ingredients take up so much capsule space, we're at 8 caps a day for full dosage on everything. But its so strong if it doesn't increase libido, there's not much hope for the person haha.

We’ve seen other brands put out products that are 8 caps a day, so I wouldn’t think that’s too much of a deterrent. Especially if it’s maybe dosed on the lines of four caps in the morning and four caps in the evening.

 

[aaronuconn]

Great. Thank you for sharing. I'm the same way - I think the point of it would be to increase libido overall. I do think of course a higher libido equals more erections in general.

I have a good idea of the dosages on most of the things I ask for opinions on. I just always like to ask for opinions to see varying points of view. For the libido product, I've had a tentative designed for about a year and updated it a couple of times. The problem is that bc these ingredients take up so much capsule space, we're at 8 caps a day for full dosage on everything. But its so strong if it doesn't increase libido, there's not much hope for the person haha.

We’ve seen other brands put out products that are 8 caps a day, so I wouldn’t think that’s too much of a deterrent. Especially if it’s maybe dosed on the lines of four caps in the morning and four caps in the evening.

 

[Segansational]

I think some companies promoted it that way. I think the ingredient itself had potential but was a victim of some companies overhyping it leading to unrealistic expectations and then a couple of people really started bashing it and it just went away.

I never used it I don't think, but from what people I know and trust said they liked it for pumps and erection purposes.

Also if I recall, amentoflavone has bioavailability issues. To the point where orally ingested by itself is not worth it. I seem to recall looking into this back in the day with Olympus Labs because there was interest, but it never went anywhere although I think we had a solution.

Anacylus - 800mg per cap would be ideal. Personally I think this ingredient makes the most sense as a stand alone solo ingredient due to the effective daily dosage (3200mg). Also this ingredient is very versatile and has benefits in multiple categories. Making it a solo ingredient would allow users to create their own stacks or run it solo depending on their goals and needs.

Cistanche - maybe an extract that is something along the lines of 60% Phenylethanoid Glycosides, 22% Echinacoside, 8% Acetoside. Dosage wise maybe 1500mg - 3000mg daily depending on cost and efficacy.

Posted this in the BLR thread too and it got some positive feedback, but would love to see anacyclus (OG anabeta) again. Standalone or in a formula would be good.

I'd be interested to learn/hear more. I honestly don't remember what the original Compound 20 was supposed to be?

Interested in this as well. My theory with Compound20 was that coumaryoldopamine was always the powerhouse ingredient, but I haven't really seen anyone else use it since USP Labs. Then again, with all that came out with them after the fact, my viewpoint is jaded now and sadly that anything worth its salt was likely spiked...

 

[sns8778]

How about SNS cologne with a catchphrase, "Take your smell seriously with SNS" or "Smell your way to another rep with SNS". I could be wrong but I think if you smell something pleasant or wonderful, it has a lot of physiological benefits.

Trying to kill me huh?
Joking .... I'm allergic to almost all cologne.

That's an idea I never thought of.

 

[booneman77]

I will keep my eyes open for something like this but am not sure if it really exists on the compliant side of things. Likewise, if you see anything of interest, please let me know.

Creatinol O Phosphate works great and I think it is so underrated. The deal that DPS has on it is incredible and its a shame that more people haven't taken advantage of that and tried it - 450 capsules/500 mg per capsule - for 24.74 w code DPS10:
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^^^ That's a 5 to 7 month supply for less than 25 bucks!

And absolutely, that is a hell of a great deal on that 3 bottle combo on the Eradicate-E.

Yep o totally agree in that it’s not something I’ve seen around before... was more a general “thinking out loud” suggestion and hoping that someone might have stumbled across something or some combo that would do it... I’ll keep my eyes and ears open

 

[booneman77]

Trying to kill me huh?
Joking .... I'm allergic to almost all cologne.

That's an idea I never thought of.

Smelling salt scented “cologne” haha. For those times when you need to smell nice, but also lift a car

 

[sns8778]

Also if I recall, amentoflavone has bioavailability issues. To the point where orally ingested by itself is not worth it. I seem to recall looking into this back in the day with Olympus Labs because there was interest, but it never went anywhere although I think we had a solution.

Posted this in the BLR thread too and it got some positive feedback, but would love to see anacyclus (OG anabeta) again. Standalone or in a formula would be good. Interested in this as well.

My theory with Compound20 was that coumaryoldopamine was always the powerhouse ingredient, but I haven't really seen anyone else use it since USP Labs. Then again, with all that came out with them after the fact, my viewpoint is jaded now and sadly that anything worth its salt was likely spiked...

The whole amentoflavone situation was weird. PES's product got good feedback and a couple of other brands that did one got good feedback, but a lot of people that never seemed to have even gave it a chance hated on it because they thought it would have bioavailability issues. Was really weird bc it seemed to be loved by the people that actually used it.

Anacyclus and Cistanche are definite possabilities. If do Anacyclus, I would lean toward solo because the dosage is so high it takes up so much capsule space.

I don't know what to think with Compound 20 situation. I do think that could have been the powerhouse ingredient like you said, or it could also be that no one besides them even know what was really in it.

 

[sns8778]

We’ve seen other brands put out products that are 8 caps a day, so I wouldn’t think that’s too much of a deterrent. Especially if it’s maybe dosed on the lines of four caps in the morning and four caps in the evening.

It would definitely be a 4 caps twice a day rather than all 8 at once. It may also be that 4 caps would work great for some people as well bc the product would be really strong. I could see it being annoyingly strong for anyone that didn't have a partner that was absolutely up for an increase in activity in that department

 

[sns8778]

It has been in a decent number of fat burners.

It is also one of the main actives in CocoaButerol.

I believe oral viability is supposed to be low, but it has always intrigued me (wished I could find it standalone) and the formulas it has been always seem decent (I enjoyed Core Hard Extreme which has 40mg). If SNS could offer it standalone I think it would be cool.

I'd be open to it if enough people were interested. I have heard varying arguments on the oral bioavailability; I'll try to do some more looking into that.

 

[unitas27]

I'd be open to it if enough people were interested. I have heard varying arguments on the oral bioavailability; I'll try to do some more looking into that.

Add some piperine/bioperine that should increase bioavailability I'd imagine.

 

[aaronuconn]

Aminogen + Velositol + bacillus coagulans + protease combined product?

Could be a flavor less powder added to protein shakes.

Aid in amino uptake, MPS, and protein absorption/digestion.