Unanswered 10mg vs 20mg superdrol should I do it?

[Outofbody]

I think it’s the carrier and the high concentration honestly. It just hurts all around there’s no nice way to put it haha. It’s a hell of a steroid in literally every way possible. I’ve put on like 6 lbs in 3 days which is all just water but that gives you an idea of just how strong the 4mg a day. It’s a pretty awesome thing but I haven’t been able to fully enjoy it cause I’ve been scared shitless about my BP. Hoping to figure that out soon.

Oh you’ve put on water, so injectable SD is a bit wet in comparison? Do you notice a bit less liver stress at all with it compared to the oral?

I’ve never taken winny so I’m not sure how injectable methyl compounds are on the liver in comparison to oral.

FWIW I always take BP meds on cycle, usually losartan or olmesartan and keep my BP around 100-120/60-80 range. That’s one thing I don’t talk about much when talking about my cycles. One thing I haven’t been able to control well though is resting heart rate.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Oh you’ve put on water, so injectable SD is a bit wet in comparison? Do you notice a bit less liver stress at all with it compared to the oral?

I’ve never taken winny so I’m not sure how injectable methyl compounds are on the liver in comparison to oral.

FWIW I always take BP meds on cycle, usually losartan or olmesartan and keep my BP around 130-160/60-80 range. That’s one thing I don’t talk about much when talking about my cycles. One thing I haven’t been able to control well though is resting heart rate.

I assume it’s a bit wet, I know SD loves carbs and carbs like water. No way I’ve put on that much muscle in 3 days lol, I’d **** a brick if I did hahaha

It’s only been a few days for me now so I can’t say in the liver part, it should be better for you though but I don’t know for sure.

 

[Hyde]

Why would you not trust Amazon? Carditone is just an otc herbal supplement from a single brand. Not like there’s a bunch of suppliers.

Amazon, get the 2-pack for $60 and it will last you a couple cycles or more probably.

Cannot believe how much better my life and training have been despite being the heaviest I’ve ever been, waking up weighing low 250s. Just a tab eod makes a big difference.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Why would you not trust Amazon? Carditone is just an otc herbal supplement from a single brand. Not like there’s a bunch of suppliers.

Amazon, get the 2-pack for $60 and it will last you a couple cycles or more probably.

Cannot believe how much better my life and training have been despite being the heaviest I’ve ever been, waking up weighing low 250s. Just a tab eod makes a big difference.

I was more just trying to find the best brand on there haha, but I found one and ordered some. Will be taking it when it arrives.

 

[Smont]

Oh I forgot to mention, injectable hurts like a mother fucking bitch. The pip is awful even when I cut mine from 40mg/ml to less than 20, my left quad has been debilitatingly sore since I pinned on Monday.

No way in hell I’d pin this stuff in my shoulders, and that with only with .1ml

Apparently some people can’t run it simply because of the carrier. It’s not normal gso, some weird **** my source told me. He pinned it once and thought he got an infection because the area was red hot and swollen for days. Mines just been hot as swollen but no redness. Feels like normal pip to me

If something gives extra pip I try to solely pin it in my glute. Seems to be the least pip in that muscle. Just went back to delts the other day and Jesus it's annoying. 3 days of pain. Quads, forget about it. Never again

 

[Smont]

Oh you’ve put on water, so injectable SD is a bit wet in comparison? Do you notice a bit less liver stress at all with it compared to the oral?

I’ve never taken winny so I’m not sure how injectable methyl compounds are on the liver in comparison to oral.

FWIW I always take BP meds on cycle, usually losartan or olmesartan and keep my BP around 130-160/60-80 range. That’s one thing I don’t talk about much when talking about my cycles. One thing I haven’t been able to control well though is resting heart rate.

Not wet at all. At least not bloating waterweight. It brings the water and glycogen right into the muscles. Amazing cosmetic effects. My boy is on it right now. Says it's exactly like the oral but he feels better on it. Compares 10mg of it to 20 or 30 of the oral

 

[ChocolateClen]

If something gives extra pip I try to solely pin it in my glute. Seems to be the least pip in that muscle. Just went back to delts the other day and Jesus it's annoying. 3 days of pain. Quads, forget about it. Never again

See I dont pin my glutes cause I can’t see what I’m doing. Rather deal with quad pip to be honest.

Not wet at all. At least not bloating waterweight. It brings the water and glycogen right into the muscles. Amazing cosmetic effects. My boy is on it right now. Says it's exactly like the oral but he feels better on it. Compares 10mg of it to 20 or 30 of the oral

Mines made my face hella puffy, not sure why that is. I don’t feel crazy bloated elsewhere though so I don’t know maybe it’s from my BP

 

[Mathb33]

See I dont pin my glutes cause I can’t see what I’m doing. Rather deal with quad pip to be honest.



Mines made my face hella puffy, not sure why that is. I don’t feel crazy bloated elsewhere though so I don’t know maybe it’s from my BP

I’ve seen you say multiple times you can’t see what you’re doing when pinning glutes but bruh what do you mean?? Unless you’re an obese motherfucka you should see everything?? I have clear view of everything that’s going on when I pin my ass?

 

[ChocolateClen]

I’ve seen you say multiple times you can’t see what you’re doing when pinning glutes but bruh what do you mean?? Unless you’re an obese motherfucka you should see everything?? I have clear view of everything that’s going on when I pin my ass?

Maybe I’d be pinning in the wrong spot then, never looked in to it since my shoulder injury hindered my ROM quite a bit back when I was pinning my first time around. Just never cared to try it out and never learned since I just had delts and quads down to a science. But I know I have a hard as hell time just turning around that far cause biomechanics.

 

[Mathb33]

Maybe I’d be pinning in the wrong spot then, never looked in to it since my shoulder injury hindered my ROM quite a bit back when I was pinning my first time around. Just never cared to try it out and never learned since I just had delts and quads down to a science. But I know I have a hard as hell time just turning around that far cause biomechanics.

Ah yeah I guess if your ROM is limited that could cause it. Sucks cause once you get over the first few pins on glutes it’s really the most forgiving spot

 

[ChocolateClen]

Ah yeah I guess if your ROM is limited that could cause it. Sucks cause once you get over the first few pins on glutes it’s really the most forgiving spot

Ahhhh quick google shows you pin the Glute medius not max, that makes more sense. I’ll have to try that on my larger pins. I figured it was a lot lower

 

[Mathb33]

Ahhhh quick google shows you pin the Glute medius not max, that makes more sense. I’ll have to try that on my larger pins. I figured it was a lot lower

Yeah and if you advance your leg forward the injection spots kinda follows the movement and it’s a lot closer to you, it’s actually pretty easy spot to pin. Left side might be a little bit more tricky for some I guess

 

[Outofbody]

Ah yeah I guess if your ROM is limited that could cause it. Sucks cause once you get over the first few pins on glutes it’s really the most forgiving spot

Glutes and delts are all I ever pin anymore. I tried ventroglutes for a few months but likely never again in that spot. Glutes are definitely the most forgiving spot, and my delts are huge so those are fairly easy to pin anything in too, but I've got some bad scar tissue buildup now from pinning delts so much. Sometimes I can't inject after I've put the needle in, due to scar tissue.

 

[Matthersby]

Wow. That has to be pretty old. I've heard of some of their liquid-based products breaking down, or turning rancid over time. Hopefully this isn't one of them.
... I'm a guy who has never had to throw away any anabolic due to age ..just wanted to let you know what I heard. I think maybe it was some of their Andro stuff, if I remember correctly.

It’s never an issue for me. I’d happily purchase 2003 ergopharm 1-AD and trust that it works.

 

[Matthersby]

I need to get some, just not sure where. I’m taking cialis currently and it’s helped a lot but hasn’t managed to knock me down below 140. More details in log about what I’m doing exactly but I’m actively looking for some. Just hard finding good **** around here

I’ve got pharma telmisartan I’d let go for pretty cheap if anyone’s interested. My bp has been pretty good lately.

 

[ChocolateClen]

I’ve got pharma telmisartan I’d let go for pretty cheap if anyone’s interested. My bp has been pretty good lately.

I would but I’m seeing a cardiologist on Monday so I’m not trying to add more stuff to my stash till I can figure out what’s going on haha

 

[Renew1]

It’s never an issue for me. I’d happily purchase 2003 ergopharm 1-AD and trust that it works.

Yeah, like Hyde said, in some of PP's liquid based products the fats were turning rancid sometime after they were out of date.

But, heck yeah, Matthersby I'd be happy to buy a lot of the old-school orals that are long out of date.

 

[Outofbody]

I’ve got pharma telmisartan I’d let go for pretty cheap if anyone’s interested. My bp has been pretty good lately.

I use pharma olmesartan and usually take an extra half tab on cycle (plus hawthorn, etc). I use 20mg daily when off, have naturally borderline high BP at 185/90 with no meds.

 

[ChocolateClen]

I use pharma olmesartan and usually take an extra half tab on cycle (plus hawthorn, etc). I use 20mg daily when off, have naturally borderline high BP at 185/90 with no meds.

Boarderline? I hope that 185/90 is a typo lol. That’s like you’re gonna die levels haha. 180 is where your capillary beds start to deteriorate and you get RBC buildup in the areas that lead to clots. You also get lots of sheer stress on artery walls which causes immense amounts plaque build up and arterial stiffening due to scar tissue.

 

[Outofbody]

Boarderline? I hope that 185/90 is a typo lol. That’s like you’re gonna die levels haha. 180 is where your capillary beds start to deteriorate and you get RBC buildup in the areas that lead to clots. You also get lots of sheer stress on artery walls which causes immense amounts plaque build up and arterial stiffening due to scar tissue.

Holy faaaak haha damn I’m way off!! Sorry haha just looked at my numbers again. 130/90 is my highest level off meds! 90-120/60 is what I’m usually like on meds.

 

[Smont]

Maybe I’d be pinning in the wrong spot then, never looked in to it since my shoulder injury hindered my ROM quite a bit back when I was pinning my first time around. Just never cared to try it out and never learned since I just had delts and quads down to a science. But I know I have a hard as hell time just turning around that far cause biomechanics.

Look at the side of your butt cheek, flex it and feel where it contracts. Basically any part of that muscle on the side is fair game and virtually pain free

 

[Smont]

Holy faaaak haha damn I’m way off!! Sorry haha just looked at my numbers again. 130/90 is my highest level off meds! 90-120/60 is what I’m usually like on meds.

130/90 is about my normal. Basically anywhere from 125 to 135 over 80 to 90. Recently I've added 15mg tadalafil eod. So I assume it should be lower now. Havnt checked in a while

 

[Matthersby]

Holy faaaak haha damn I’m way off!! Sorry haha just looked at my numbers again. 130/90 is my highest level off meds! 90-120/60 is what I’m usually like on meds.

Phew! I was stressing for you for a second

 

[LondonerTWBULLY]

I’ve seen you say multiple times you can’t see what you’re doing when pinning glutes but bruh what do you mean?? Unless you’re an obese motherfucka you should see everything?? I have clear view of everything that’s going on when I pin my ass?

My twin bro says exactly the same thing and pins shoulders etc but gets pip where you can’t lift as well I always just pin glutes, even if I were a lard arse I’d use a mirror or something coz pip in glute is easier to deal with than pinning muscle groups you wanna work out with.

 

[LondonerTWBULLY]

Been on sdrol @20mg for 4 weeks now but I’m now taking 10mg for the last 3 days to see what Happens and I’ve not felt ANY sides at all, ive got tons of energy and my appetite etc much better ik its Toxic but I beleive toxicity in orals are well blown out of proportion and as long as you stick with maximum 6 wks on I’m sure I’ll be fine, in the last 3 days I’ve been on only 10mg I’ve put on another 1lb too and feel great

 

[Renew1]

Been on sdrol @20mg for 4 weeks now but I’m now taking 10mg for the last 3 days to see what Happens and I’ve not felt ANY sides at all, ive got tons of energy and my appetite etc much better ik its Toxic but I beleive toxicity in orals are well blown out of proportion and as long as you stick with maximum 6 wks on I’m sure I’ll be fine, in the last 3 days I’ve been on only 10mg I’ve put on another 1lb too and feel great

You're definitely the exception, as far as SD goes. I'm glad It's treating you well, though. It's a toxic compound that makes most of us feel like crap. You pinning it?
BTW, I much prefer pinning glutes as well.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Been on sdrol @20mg for 4 weeks now but I’m now taking 10mg for the last 3 days to see what Happens and I’ve not felt ANY sides at all, ive got tons of energy and my appetite etc much better ik its Toxic but I beleive toxicity in orals are well blown out of proportion and as long as you stick with maximum 6 wks on I’m sure I’ll be fine, in the last 3 days I’ve been on only 10mg I’ve put on another 1lb too and feel great

I mostly agree with this, I feel fine aside from a fat face, and the BP issues. Other than that all I feel are the sickest and most painful pumps ever.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Been on sdrol @20mg for 4 weeks now but I’m now taking 10mg for the last 3 days to see what Happens and I’ve not felt ANY sides at all, ive got tons of energy and my appetite etc much better ik its Toxic but I beleive toxicity in orals are well blown out of proportion and as long as you stick with maximum 6 wks on I’m sure I’ll be fine, in the last 3 days I’ve been on only 10mg I’ve put on another 1lb too and feel great

I mostly agree with this, I feel fine aside from a fat face, and the BP issues. Other than that all I feel are the sickest and most painful pumps ever.

 

[Renew1]

I mostly agree with this, I feel fine aside from a fat face, and the BP issues. Other than that all I feel are the sickest and most painful pumps ever.

You're pinning it right? What dosage?

 

[ChocolateClen]

You're pinning it right? What dosage?

4mg ed 30 min preworkout. Haven’t even finished a week on it yet. You can check my ongoing log for a more detailed breakdown of where my BP is at pre and post pin.

 

[Renew1]

4mg ed 30 min preworkout. Haven’t even finished a week on it yet. You can check my ongoing log for a more detailed breakdown of where my BP is at pre and post pin.

That's right .... I have checked it. I'll keep going back. Glad things are going well. 4mg is a lot less than the 20mg I've ran.
I'm thinking of trying to run it again before it warms up (because of you guys LOL). I'm leaning toward 10mg (oral) this time.

 

[ChocolateClen]

That's right .... I have checked it. I'll keep going back. Glad things are going well. 4mg is a lot less than the 20mg I've ran.
I'm thinking of trying to run it again before it warms up (because of you guys LOL). I'm leaning toward 10mg (oral) this time.

I think 4mg is close to 8mg of oral, because it hits harder and faster. Not 100% sure though. The half life is shorter so I assume that’s why.

I keep hoping I’ll see a **** ton of an increase, but aside from the in total water weight gain, I’m holding about the same weight that I was. I don’t know if I need to pin more often since it’s a 12 hour half life, or if I just need to be more patient but I was hoping to get to 210 this cycle from 193.

 

[Renew1]

4mg ed 30 min preworkout. Haven’t even finished a week on it yet. You can check my ongoing log for a more detailed breakdown of where my BP is at pre and post pin.

That's right .... I have checked it. I'll keep going back. Glad things are going well. 4mg is a lot less than the 20mg I've ran.
I'm thinking of trying to run it again before it warms up (because of you guys LOL). I'm leaning toward 10mg (oral) this time.

I think 4mg is close to 8mg of oral, because it hits harder and faster. Not 100% sure though. The half life is shorter so I assume that’s why.

I keep hoping I’ll see a **** ton of an increase, but aside from the in total water weight gain, I’m holding about the same weight that I was. I don’t know if I need to pin more often since it’s a 12 hour half life, or if I just need to be more patient but I was hoping to get to 210 this cycle from 193.

I think if it were me, I'd dose it a LITTLE higher. .. But that's me.

 

[ChocolateClen]

That's right .... I have checked it. I'll keep going back. Glad things are going well. 4mg is a lot less than the 20mg I've ran.
I'm thinking of trying to run it again before it warms up (because of you guys LOL). I'm leaning toward 10mg (oral) this time.


I think if it were me, I'd dose it a LITTLE higher. .. But that's me.

Yeah I’m mostly worried about BP issues. If I go to the cardiologist and they say I’m fine then I’ll bump to 8mg. This is my first time running something this intense so I figured I’d be on the safe side.

As if now though I’m getting 2 drastically different BP readings from 2 different machines so I don’t know which is right.

 

[Renew1]

Yeah I’m mostly worried about BP issues. If I go to the cardiologist and they say I’m fine then I’ll bump to 8mg. This is my first time running something this intense so I figured I’d be on the safe side.

As if now though I’m getting 2 drastically different BP readings from 2 different machines so I don’t know which is right.

Ohhh..... RIGGHTT....
Sorry, I haven't had my coffee yet. I understand. Be safe.

 

[Outofbody]

chocolate clen, speaking of BP, the last (and only time) I’ve ran clen, my BP in the gym while on a moderate jog on a treadmill was in the 200s. Never touched it again.

 

[ChocolateClen]

chocolate clen, speaking of BP, the last (and only time) I’ve ran clen, my BP in the gym while on a moderate jog on a treadmill was in the 200s. Never touched it again.

I’ve never run it haha already enough heart issues in my family to warrant me staying away from it

 

[LondonerTWBULLY]

You're definitely the exception, as far as SD goes. I'm glad It's treating you well, though. It's a toxic compound that makes most of us feel like crap. You pinning it?
BTW, I much prefer pinning glutes as well.

No ive got intex pharma oral sdrol, and at 20mg I felt like death but gains were great but since I’ve dropped to 10mg the feeling like crap is gone even the acid has gone completely and I can eat as and when I want now and am over the moon Im still gaining. Just can’t wait for my bp test e to kick in too

 

[Hyde]

chocolate clen, speaking of BP, the last (and only time) I’ve ran clen, my BP in the gym while on a moderate jog on a treadmill was in the 200s. Never touched it again.

That’s why it’s so high - you need to dose it away from cardio. If you do cardio in the AM, take it after, or vice versa. Just don’t take the Clen too close to bedtime obviously.

 

[ChocolateClen]

That’s why it’s so high - you need to dose it away from cardio. If you do cardio in the AM, take it after, or vice versa. Just don’t take the Clen too close to bedtime obviously.

I like being used right before bed, Ill keep you up at night

 

[Hyde]

I like being used right before bed, Ill keep you up at night

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Thanks, Nightman

 

[Outofbody]

Lol.. Naw I can’t take stuff like that anymore. My adrenals already hate me I actually like tianeptine on a cut though. Boosts my energy and mood, and cuts my appetite.

 

[MrKleen73]

You guys in this log, and then a sudden deal i got made me decide I will run SD again. Had a buddy of mine who quit lifting offer me up 3 bottles of LGI SD for $10 a pop... can't beat that... At 10mg or 10mg off days 20mg on days that will last me forever... I respond to this stuff like crazy but sides are STOOPID for me.

 

[ChocolateClen]

You guys in this log, and then a sudden deal i got made me decide I will run SD again. Had a buddy of mine who quit lifting offer me up 3 bottles of LGI SD for $10 a pop... can't beat that... At 10mg or 10mg off days 20mg on days that will last me forever... I respond to this stuff like crazy but sides are STOOPID for me.

Injectable is the way to go, holy FUARK is it good. 2 weeks and I went from 186 to 198.75 as of today

 

[Mathb33]

You guys in this log, and then a sudden deal i got made me decide I will run SD again. Had a buddy of mine who quit lifting offer me up 3 bottles of LGI SD for $10 a pop... can't beat that... At 10mg or 10mg off days 20mg on days that will last me forever... I respond to this stuff like crazy but sides are STOOPID for me.

Good luck and enjoy

 

[MrKleen73]

Injectable is the way to go, holy FUARK is it good. 2 weeks and I went from 186 to 198.75 as of today

Yeah I wouldn't mind trying it but the cost is a factor and this deal here was just too good.

Good luck and enjoy

Thanks! Holding off for now until I know for sure if my shoulder issue will require surgery or just some more PT but I can work around it and put on plenty of muscle if no surgery required. Fingers Crossed!!!

 

[LondonerTWBULLY]

I’ve been running sdrol for 6 weeks first 4 was 20mg now I’m running 10mg and I’ve found the sides a lot less the Longer I’m on, was like death for first 2weeks bad acid reflux n heartburn sleeping more etc but now apart from feeling slightly sick at times I feel great but going to stop soon and hope my gains are as good with just my test @500 mg a week not Fully peaked yet as not been on that long(enathate) btw I’ve gained 18lbs so far and I’m afraid to lose some gains before test fully peaks

 

[LondonerTWBULLY]

Yeah I wouldn't mind trying it but the cost is a factor and this deal here was just too good.
Thanks! Holding off for now until I know for sure if my shoulder issue will require surgery or just some more PT but I can work around it and put on plenty of muscle if no surgery required. Fingers Crossed!!!

I Had very sore left shoulder from sdrol and max lmg made it feel better, I think it was dry joint and lmg added water?? But not too sure but they work VERY well together and my next sdrol run will have max lmg too. Hope your shoulder isn’t serious enough for surgery, maybe run mk677 and hope it heals you up

 

[ChocolateClen]

I just pinned 12mg SD in my right Delt. Straight SD not mixed. Delt hurts like a mofo already but I feel like I can pull down the whole damn building.

 

[Whisky]

I just pinned 12mg SD in my right Delt. Straight SD not mixed. Delt hurts like a mofo already but I feel like I can pull down the whole damn building.

im starting sdrol for the first time Monday, been on test/deca for 2 weeks so wanted to let that build up and was busy last two weeks so didn’t want to add sdrol into a crazy schedule. Gonna use oral but I have injectable as well. Probably start at 10mg and bump to 20mg after a week if the sides are manageable - excited af to try the bad boy