Anyone still supporting Trump?

sammpedd88

Well-known member
Awards
3
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • RockStar
If you can't, or choose not to, see through the thin veil, I'll never be able to explain it.

He's never used the "n" word, worn a white hood or burned a cross so he's g2g, right?
So saying that some illegal immigrants coming across the border that are pedophiles and murders is probably considered racist by liberals but it’s a fact. The nation has no clue what is really going on at the border and in border towns. He’s no more racist than Obama. Liberals hate him because he says what’s on his mind and what the majority of the country thinks.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
I'm really not trying to trick you into anything and sorry if it came off that way. I just speak with people daily that believe science for idea A, but not for idea B. This comes out a lot for climate change, especially. I think a lot of people (not including you in this) know that our actions are causing or exacerbating the problem, but deny it because that is easier than changing actions or they're making a whole lot of money off of the deregulations.

I could write several theses on what I want to do, but none will happen in my lifetime. Most of it is less about changing this planet and putting money into life extension and space exploration, but it's hard to get people to buy into dramatic ideas when so many question the basics. I'm with you in that I like to do my part to keep the environment beautiful, but I don't exactly go out of my way or push that idea on others.
I dislike these de-regulators as much as anyone, but I also see the regulators with the most to gain and benefit at this point of time. Its hard for me to be conclusive about what deregulation and regulations are good and bad as I can probably make a career trying to figure this all out outside of the obvious (massive smoke stacks near communities for a simple example.)

Its a tug of war of lobbyists and bribes. Until we reform the system and take the bribes out of Washington things wont get much better. Government should take the role of consumer protection without money going to politicians campaign financing and other types of bribes. Im not optimistic this is possible in the near future which also means people like me will maintain a low level of trust.

Solutions that work in my own experience is allowing people to keep fruits of their labor, or at least picking their cause and charity. This year there is a 30% Federal Tax Credit on solar, 25% NYS Tax credit and another rebate credit here in NY prior to purchase. These credits on the Federal level are slowly going away starting next year, but they do roll over for up to 5 years if needed.

So this is what I have purchase and how it breaks down, Im posting this as if nobody told me about it I wouldnt have pulled the trigger.

6kW system=
$19,881
-NYS rebate $1,831
------------------
=$18,050
-$5,451 Federal Tax Credit
-$4,512 NY State Tax Credit (NY being one of the best on this in the country)
------------
=$8,087
-$1,000 manufacturer rebate
------------------------
=Total system cost = $7,087 Cash.....I was going to finance it for 10 years at 3.99 but that would have added $3,500 in interests to the cost so I said forgetaboutit. I spend on average $1900 a year on electricity and my production should be 100-110% and Ill be feeding on and off back to the grid. This purchase was a no brainer.

Just putting this out there for all readers (Im sure there are more that read than are active on here) to look into Solar, now is the time although I have a feeling that once Tax incentives are gone manufacturers will reduce cost some and better production may also contribute to that. The Federal Tax credits will go away as of today, I think next year it goes from 30 to 26 and less after until its all gone in a few.
 
Last edited:
nostrum420

nostrum420

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
So saying that some illegal immigrants coming across the border that are pedophiles and murders is probably considered racist by liberals but it’s a fact. The nation has no clue what is really going on at the border and in border towns. He’s no more racist than Obama. Liberals hate him because he says what’s on his mind and what the majority of the country thinks.
Trump has a storied history of discrimination and bigotry. Rejecting black tenants from his apartments, wanting to keep the central park 5 in jail after they were exonerated, etc. You can go through and litigate all the examples while ignoring the overall pattern, if you like but again if you can't, or choose not to, see through the thin veil, I can't change that.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
Trump has a storied history of discrimination and bigotry. Rejecting black tenants from his apartments, wanting to keep the central park 5 in jail after they were exonerated, etc. You can go through and litigate all the examples while ignoring the overall pattern, if you like but again if you can't, or choose not to, see through the thin veil, I can't change that.
I dont know enough about the tenant issue, but recently watched a documentary on the Central Park 5. I think he has dictatorial qualities, not of the great kind so I disagree he wanted the CP5 in jail and that made him look bad, but that didnt mean he is a racist. There was a crime, he was convinced the CP5 was guilty of it and thats why he said what he said.

Dump prior to being president called for the Assasination of Snowden, but maybe he hates white people too? You dont hear that, but if Snowden was black Im sure Dump being a racist would be a front page story.

I just see alot of this and its disturbing. Sometimes certain incidents are 100% the case but it is then diminished because of its constant over-misuse-abuse.
 
Aleksandar37

Aleksandar37

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
So saying that some illegal immigrants coming across the border that are pedophiles and murders is probably considered racist by liberals but it’s a fact. The nation has no clue what is really going on at the border and in border towns. He’s no more racist than Obama. Liberals hate him because he says what’s on his mind and what the majority of the country thinks.
Assuming any group of people are pedophiles and murderers simply because of what race or nationality they are without any proof is actually racist/prejudiced/xenophobic/whatever word you want use. It's not a liberal definition and very little you stated are facts.

Liberals don't hate him because he says what is on his mind. Name me a President who didn't say what was on their mind. Trump rants like a child and that is different than just speaking your mind. And again, reinvent history all you want but the majority of the country who did vote voted for Hillary. Gallup polls show that people are split on increasing and decreasing immigration, but 76% agree that immigration is a good thing. Here's a link since you wanted to talk about facts: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1660/immigration.aspx
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
76% agree that immigration is a good thing. Here's a link since you wanted to talk about facts: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1660/immigration.aspx
I would hope 100% would say immigration is a good thing. There still is a difference between legal and illegal and that poll shows the majority 74% feel the border is either a crisis or major problem. I did not pick up that Dump wanted to end legal immigration. The refugee situation is another story.

Its a major success for the contractors that lobbied for it and now get to make extra cash paid by dollars stolen from us to repair the wall they built.

188040

188041
 
nostrum420

nostrum420

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
I would hope 100% would say immigration is a good thing. There still is a difference between legal and illegal and that poll shows the majority 74% feel the border is either a crisis or major problem. I did not pick up that Dump wanted to end legal immigration. The refugee situation is another story.

Trump’s proclamation will make getting into the US much harder for immigrants sponsored by family members, the phenomenon Trump has excoriated as “chain migration.” It will throw up a barrier to those coming through the diversity visa lottery — the subject of Trump’s “shithole countries” rant — which allows the US to accept 55,000 immigrants annually from countries with historically low levels of immigration.
 
Aleksandar37

Aleksandar37

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer

Trump’s proclamation will make getting into the US much harder for immigrants sponsored by family members, the phenomenon Trump has excoriated as “chain migration.” It will throw up a barrier to those coming through the diversity visa lottery — the subject of Trump’s “shithole countries” rant — which allows the US to accept 55,000 immigrants annually from countries with historically low levels of immigration.
Thank you for saving me time! Trump doesn't differentiate legal vs illegal when talking about immigrants from the south.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established

Trump’s proclamation will make getting into the US much harder for immigrants sponsored by family members, the phenomenon Trump has excoriated as “chain migration.” It will throw up a barrier to those coming through the diversity visa lottery — the subject of Trump’s “shithole countries” rant — which allows the US to accept 55,000 immigrants annually from countries with historically low levels of immigration.
Well this certainly shows he isnt the "legal immigration" Prezident he advertises to be.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
Quiet before the storm, what a lame ass election about 1/3 of my ballot had no challengers. 3/4s my ballet was all fill ins on my part. I had someone on there that were running both under demican and republicrat, lol

Now, lets see how quiet it is next year, it should be the most humble election of our generation.

We have early voting in NY for the first time, so I am not sure but hope that carries over to the Prez election as well to help reduce polling congestion. Single day elections can turn alot of people off from voting.
 
Last edited:
Aleksandar37

Aleksandar37

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
Quiet before the storm, what a lame ass election about1/3 of my ballot had no challengers. 3/4s my ballet was all fill ins on my part. I had someone on there that were running both under demican and republicrat, lol

Now, lets see how quiet it is next year, it should be the most humble election of our generation.

We have early voting in NY for the first time, so I am not sure but hope that carries over to the Prez election as well to help reduce polling congestion. Single day elections can turn alot of people off from voting.
I'm hoping that keeps spreading so that people participate regardless of which lesser evil they decide to go with. Here everything is by mail and it's really impressive. You get a booklet with summaries of everybody running and other issues being voted on and a prepaid postage envelope to send it in.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
I'm hoping that keeps spreading so that people participate regardless of which lesser evil they decide to go with. Here everything is by mail and it's really impressive. You get a booklet with summaries of everybody running and other issues being voted on and a prepaid postage envelope to send it in.
Wow, thats sounds really good. They do include all 3rd parties and "I's" that are officially on the ballot in the info book, correct?
 
Aleksandar37

Aleksandar37

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
Wow, thats sounds really good. They do include all 3rd parties and "I's" that are officially on the ballot in the info book, correct?
Yep, everybody. This dude has been in there and he can't decide what he is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodspaceguy

It's really cool. I've never lived in a place that makes it so easy to vote and actually provides an unbiased book of information on the candidates and issues up for voting. It's Seattle, so the most likely winners will be anybody that wants to supply needles to the homeless and let them set up tents wherever they want, but it's nice that they try lol
 

Flibs

New member
Awards
0
I support Trump because I enjoy the second amendment as well as a great economy. I’m pro life, pro America, pro military, border control. I HATE the PC culture. That enough?
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
I support Trump because I enjoy the second amendment as well as a great economy. I’m pro life, pro America, pro military, border control. I HATE the PC culture. That enough?
If you enjoy the 2nd Amendment its probably best not to vote for Dump, he is the Gun-Grabber in Chief, lol He certainty has diminished the 2nd Amendment since taking office.

The best guy by far for 2nd Amendment on the official 2016 ballot was Gary Johnson. He would allow citizens to arm both semi- and automatic weapons to balance out of countrol growing powers of the US government, although he would keep a ban on more hardcore stuff like rocket-launchers and home made nukes of course.

People are desensitized when one group is really anti-2nd Amendment then the opposition claims they are there to protect it but in reality are simply less anti-than the other.
 
Last edited:
Aleksandar37

Aleksandar37

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
I support Trump because I enjoy the second amendment as well as a great economy. I’m pro life, pro America, pro military, border control. I HATE the PC culture. That enough?
Remember all those guns Democrats took away? Yeah, nobody else does either because it was never on the table. Trump has tossed it on the table several times now. What you should be is pro-having the balls to state your opinion without having to start a new account to do it.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
Remember all those guns Democrats took away? Yeah, nobody else does either because it was never on the table. Trump has tossed it on the table several times now. What you should be is pro-having the balls to state your opinion without having to start a new account to do it.
Now I think about it, he might just be a bot. Probably from a Russian server, lol
 
justhere4comm

justhere4comm

Banned
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
Why I don't support Trump. He's a p*ssy *ss b*tch.
 

swimfan65

Well-known member
Awards
2
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
I support Trump because I enjoy the second amendment as well as a great economy. I’m pro life, pro America, pro military, border control. I HATE the PC culture. That enough?

What about the constitution? Kinda the whole reason we are a country? After today, and Sondlands "revised" testimony...basically he didnt want to commit perjury and go to prison. He now testified that Donnie Dbag did shake down the Ukraine. He is spitting on the constitution and committing capital crimes and hes caught. If you still support him, I have some cyanide flavored kool aide for you to drink because you are a brainwashed fool.
 

swimfan65

Well-known member
Awards
2
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
Trump is out my brothers. Sondland said " screw it, Im not going to prison for this nut" and told the truth. Well its the same truth everyone else has been telling too. But, Sondland was his dude, and he flipped on him. Packing boxes at home depot aren't too expensive. For real, that should be it..hes done.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
Trump is out my brothers. Sondland said " screw it, Im not going to prison for this nut" and told the truth. Well its the same truth everyone else has been telling too. But, Sondland was his dude, and he flipped on him. Packing boxes at home depot aren't too expensive. For real, that should be it..hes done.
Good, Nancy Pelosi should be next then we will come back to Pence after we give him a few weeks to build a fuller direct criminality resume.

My gut these days are telling me he will be on the ballot next year to be honest. I do think both parties as a whole should be banned from political office, they are the most corrupt political organizations since the black hole came to being, and the black hole before than and possibly one more before that.
 
nostrum420

nostrum420

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar

Rand later said, "Reek, my name is Reek; it's always been Reek." More on this as it festers.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established

Rand later said, "Reek, my name is Reek; it's always been Reek." More on this as it festers.
Bland Poul should come out and call this Ukrainian investigation a pile of BS and then call out for Dump's impeachment anyways for violating the 4th for his re-authorization of the NSA spy program. It cant be any simpler than that and no need to spend hundreds of millions of stolen tax payer dollars for investigations to figure out what happened in the Ukraine.
 
nostrum420

nostrum420

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Bland Poul should come out and call this Ukrainian investigation a pile of BS and then call out for Dump's impeachment anyways for violating the 4th for his re-authorization of the NSA spy program. It cant be any simpler than that and no need to spend hundreds of millions of stolen tax payer dollars for investigations to figure out what happened in the Ukraine.
But Trump is concerned about the nepotism...
 
Aleksandar37

Aleksandar37

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
What about the constitution? Kinda the whole reason we are a country? After today, and Sondlands "revised" testimony...basically he didnt want to commit perjury and go to prison. He now testified that Donnie Dbag did shake down the Ukraine. He is spitting on the constitution and committing capital crimes and hes caught. If you still support him, I have some cyanide flavored kool aide for you to drink because you are a brainwashed fool.
They've never cared about the Constitution. The only part they ever mention is the amendments and then it's only the second, which apparently only applies to those willing to swear loyalty to Trump.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
They've never cared about the Constitution. The only part they ever mention is the amendments and then it's only the second, which apparently only applies to those willing to swear loyalty to Trump.
Different rules for different folks,

"Oh, we love WikiLeaks!"

"I know nothing about wikileaks!"
 

Flibs

New member
Awards
0
What about the constitution? Kinda the whole reason we are a country? After today, and Sondlands "revised" testimony...basically he didnt want to commit perjury and go to prison. He now testified that Donnie Dbag did shake down the Ukraine. He is spitting on the constitution and committing capital crimes and hes caught. If you still support him, I have some cyanide flavored kool aide for you to drink because you are a brainwashed fool.
Remember all those guns Democrats took away? Yeah, nobody else does either because it was never on the table. Trump has tossed it on the table several times now. What you should be is pro-having the balls to state your opinion without having to start a new account to do it.
not a new account dude. Just don’t post much. The dems want our guns pull ur head out.
 

Flibs

New member
Awards
0
Remember all those guns Democrats took away? Yeah, nobody else does either because it was never on the table. Trump has tossed it on the table several times now. What you should be is pro-having the balls to state your opinion without having to start a new account to do it.
Remember all those guns Democrats took away? Yeah, nobody else does either because it was never on the table. Trump has tossed it on the table several times now. What you should be is pro-having the balls to state your opinion without having to start a new account to do it.
Not a new account dude. I just don’t post much, libs want ur guns pull ur head out.
 

Flibs

New member
Awards
0
What about the constitution? Kinda the whole reason we are a country? After today, and Sondlands "revised" testimony...basically he didnt want to commit perjury and go to prison. He now testified that Donnie Dbag did shake down the Ukraine. He is spitting on the constitution and committing capital crimes and hes caught. If you still support him, I have some cyanide flavored kool aide for you to drink because you are a brainwashed fool.
Very tolerant of you. You are appearantly the only one with the right opinion. Anyone who has a different opinion should commit suicide. And I’m brainwashed??
 
justhere4comm

justhere4comm

Banned
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
I've seen 2016 accounts like this before. 1 post or none until they suddenly decide to 'chime in' on a topic.
It's a dummy account. In this case. It's literally a dummy account.
 

swimfan65

Well-known member
Awards
2
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
Very tolerant of you. You are appearantly the only one with the right opinion. Anyone who has a different opinion should commit suicide. And I’m brainwashed??
Thats a reference to Jim Jones and his followers knucklehead.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
Not a new account dude. I just don’t post much, libs want ur guns pull ur head out.
To be fair not all "libs" want your guns. Some do such as Diane Frankenstein from Cali, but others want various forms of more expansive gun control either through background checking and limiting round size, but dont want to ban guns at all.

I dont like any of that, Im very pro 2nd Amendment, one of many reasons I would never support PRez Dump.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
Very tolerant of you. You are appearantly the only one with the right opinion. Anyone who has a different opinion should commit suicide. And I’m brainwashed??
In regards to the Constitution, opinions are not needed. He has clearly shytted all over it and violated his oath of office and should be impeached. Just read the laws. Think what I just pointed out earlier, he props up and extends powers to the NSA a very clear violation of the 4th Amendment. He even asked and wanted Congress them to re-authorize some of the most illegal parts of NSA spying. He should belong in Gitmo bunking beds with Hitlery.

 
Last edited:
Aleksandar37

Aleksandar37

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
I've seen 2016 accounts like this before. 1 post or none until they suddenly decide to 'chime in' on a topic.
It's a dummy account. In this case. It's literally a dummy account.
But the libs are going to take all our guns away even though it was Bush and Trump who went after bump stocks and Trump who wanted to start taking guns away from people that the government labeled as dangerous. And don't forget that Obama just let everybody across the border except when I need to argue that Trump is simply using the same cages that Obama did [sarcasm <-- that means joking for the slow kids]
 

Flibs

New member
Awards
0
That was your very first post and it literally says "new member" under your username. Although you're not a big fan of facts on that or gun control.
Been a member for a few years just to read articles etc.. that is a fact genius
 
nostrum420

nostrum420

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
I support Trump because I enjoy the second amendment as well as a great economy. I’m pro life, pro America, pro military, border control. I HATE the PC culture. That enough?
So now that we've covered how Trump isn't really all that pro 2A, can we discuss how this "great economy" is a house of cards? Between record consumer debt, stagnant wages (when you acct. for inflation) and artificially inflated stocks because of the buy-backs, it's quite possible Trump won't be able to campaign on the economy as we get closer to the election.
 
Aleksandar37

Aleksandar37

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • RockStar
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
So now that we've covered how Trump isn't really all that pro 2A, can we discuss how this "great economy" is a house of cards? Between record consumer debt, stagnant wages (when you acct. for inflation) and artificially inflated stocks because of the buy-backs, it's quite possible Trump won't be able to campaign on the economy as we get closer to the election.
And the trade war that was supposed to be a quick fix lmao. How many people that claim it's a great economy actually make money off of investing rather than gauging whether it's good or bad based off of their own singular income? I keep hearing examples of how so and so got a raise, so that must mean the economy is great.
 
ax1

ax1

Legend
Awards
3
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
Been a member for a few years just to read articles etc.. that is a fact genius
Oh I see you joined in 2016, I guess you were waiting until you turned 18. Are you still in 12th? or 11th?
 

swimfan65

Well-known member
Awards
2
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
I like how trump just said in Kentucky he was the greatest president ever. He actually said " better than Washington, better than Lincoln". I never saw someone masterbating infront of so many people. Not only is he the worst president of all time and and awful human being, he is, quite literally, insane.
 

Flibs

New member
Awards
0
Oh I see you joined in 2016, I guess you were waiting until you turned 18. Are you still in 12th? or 11th?

Wow didn’t realize this sight had so many with the trump derangement syndrome. Go ahead and pile on. I haven’t posted anything because I haven’t been interested in speaking on any other topics. I instead chose to read articles here and there occasionally. I saw a thread that asked if there are any trump supporters out there? I answered and gave reasons why, what’s big deal? Some of u guys are nuts man.
 

Similar threads


Top