Oooooohhhh sounding just as good as I think we all hoped!
So, if you wanted have a debate, what exactly are you claiming?Fair enough, but can you stop the sob story please. A lot of compies stopped posting because they got called out.. I physically have two bottles of SNS Vaso6, Two AE in front of me and bought plenty of your products ( can post u pic if you dont belive myself) bought up vaso6 because we never got to the bottom of the lawsuit and if any truth to it.. so how do you reapond to S7?
Was igniting a debate.. science vs real life scenario is abit different.. many studies fail to explain more about human subject if there dna from certain region of world and how they can be effected by ingredients.. if you read whole vaso6 comments is faily mixed results
I would think so. But then again who knows.So, if you wanted have a debate, what exactly are you claiming?
That this patent references invalid science, and that procyanidins are not endothelium relaxing compounds?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6706756B1/en
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Or that Compound solutions isn't applying the extraction and isolation method described in this patent?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7132446B1/en
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Or what exactly is your claim?
The former seems very unlikely.
The latter also seems unlikely, as the extraction method isn't particularly complicated, and selling an ineffective ingredient that is being used in standalone products would be revealed pretty quickly as ineffective.
Might as well just do it right and sell the effective ingredient, so you can make money long term, no?
I'd just take on training days. 4 caps, 10-20 mins pre-workout.@sns8778
Day #1 ended up being a non training day due to my home team "Nationals" pulling out a game 5 thriller.
I followed directions per label, took 2 caps 5am and 2 caps at 2pm. Nothing to note at this time. Nothing to report
Day #2 took 4 caps Vasoforce xt along with kraken as a pwo. 1 scoop. This workout was obviously a really nice pump with some good endurance. Very strong.
Day #3 4 caps Vasoforce xt along with fuel as a pwo. This was a solid workout also.
Day #4 2 caps 2x a day non training day.
Nothing to report
Day#5 4 caps Vasoforce xt along with fuel
Solid workout
5 day recap
On non training days I really haven't noticed anything. For me, I'm thinking it would be best to just save for training days.
Unless recommended I take daily to keep in my system?
Training days
I will say the first workout I had with 4 Vasoforce xt along with kraken pwo was pretty intense. Maybe a little over the top with the added vaso6 and other ingredients from kraken. Needless to say I was pumped, great endurance, and was solid for 24 hours.
My other 2 workouts with Vasoforce xt along with fuel pwo are a better way to feel out the Vasoforce. Fuel is just a nice lil pick me up with some focus.
I'm am a big fan of pump products and NO products. Keep in mind I've been using vaso/full blitz for the last 2 months.
I do get the pumps and endurance from the Vasoforce xt. I haven't noticed any improvement in vascular yet.
I train at 3am, I have noticed that I do keep my pump for several hours throughout the day.
I will keep posting every 5 days with current updates.
Interested to see if this product gets better over time. So far, I'm happy
That's what I'm thinking also. ThanksI'd just take on training days. 4 caps, 10-20 mins pre-workout.
Someone stole itSo where is the new topic for super stole?
WE KNOW ITS A THING!!!
Someone stole it
Sorry, couldn't resist haha. If you mean CEL Super Swole, probably see a thread on it next week.
Until then, here: have a super, duper stole.Someone stole it
Sorry, couldn't resist haha. If you mean CEL Super Swole, probably see a thread on it next week.
Looking forward to it.Someone stole it
Sorry, couldn't resist haha. If you mean CEL Super Swole, probably see a thread on it next week.
Je$u$, "not as lean", you're fing lean now bro, nice review! You clearly know your stuff!VasoForce XT Review:
Formula:
-This stuff is pretty stacked.
-Big fan of the combinations:
1) Glycerol for hydration/volume style pump with an efficient dose (1g+ is enough in isolation)
2) Vaso6 at a huge dose. 300mg is the usual, I’ve seen improvements with as little as 150mg and 600mg is intense.
3) Agmatine for some down stream pump enhancements. I’m a huge Agmatine fan, but tend to prefer larger doses at different times of the day, but 250-500 seems an efficacious dose for arginase inhibition to extend the pump throughout the day when used with other effective pump agents.
4) S7 at the studied dose to help boost NO.
5) Astragin for absorption of these and anything else you may take at the same time as VasoForce XT.
Effects:
So I took this a couple ways.
1) 2 caps prior to training with 200mg Caffeine
2) 3 caps with 200mg Caffeine (twice)
3) 4 caps with 200-300mg Caffeine (three times)
-2 caps enough to give a noticeable boost. I forgot I had taken and during my workout was wondering why I was getting such a big upper body pump..realized after I’d taken two caps pre-workout.
-3 caps were done once before a cardio only session that showed lowered RPE and HR for the same output as 2 weeks prior and one normal training session.
-Days with 4 caps was pretty intense. Not all of my training is pump oriented, but is very Performance oriented. I was worried about “too much” pump. I never really noticed that and noticed a solid ability to push through fatigue.
-2 caps provided a very solid pump, 3 a bit more, and 4 provided more pump, but most noticeably it improved duration of pump and fullness later in the day.
Overall:
This stuff is legit. Even at half dose it is probably better than most pump products out. It’s no secret I am a huge Nitrate fan, but I find the effects of VasoForce XT (and quality Vaso6) to provide better fullness and pump. I’d be interested in longer term use of this to see how the extended use compares to how i find Nitrates and Citrulline benefit my recovery and ability to train harder more frequently, but VasoForce XT provides immediate improvements in muscle pump and endurance, to say the least.
Bonus: I’m not as lean right now so vascularity isn’t insane, but the picture attached was at night 8+ hours post dosing. Vascularity and fullness boosted all day and some new veins (this was only more apparent during training but I didn’t snap any pictures then).
Thank you for sharing. I'm really glad you're enjoying the product.Thanks SNS! Great product!
SNS VasoForce XT sample review - AnabolicMinds.com
I was fortunate to receive 5 sample servings of the new SNS VasoForce XT. I used it for a few different workouts in a couple different situations. I normally work out first thing in the morning. I was also able to get in a midday workout using this. I can say that the pumps were better...anabolicminds.com
Thank you for the awesomely detailed review. I'm glad that you enjoyed it and very glad that you noticed and commented on how long lasting the pumps are and noticed the pumps and endurance as well.VasoForce XT Review:
Formula:
-This stuff is pretty stacked.
-Big fan of the combinations:
1) Glycerol for hydration/volume style pump with an efficient dose (1g+ is enough in isolation)
2) Vaso6 at a huge dose. 300mg is the usual, I’ve seen improvements with as little as 150mg and 600mg is intense.
3) Agmatine for some down stream pump enhancements. I’m a huge Agmatine fan, but tend to prefer larger doses at different times of the day, but 250-500 seems an efficacious dose for arginase inhibition to extend the pump throughout the day when used with other effective pump agents.
4) S7 at the studied dose to help boost NO.
5) Astragin for absorption of these and anything else you may take at the same time as VasoForce XT.
Effects:
So I took this a couple ways.
1) 2 caps prior to training with 200mg Caffeine
2) 3 caps with 200mg Caffeine (twice)
3) 4 caps with 200-300mg Caffeine (three times)
-2 caps enough to give a noticeable boost. I forgot I had taken and during my workout was wondering why I was getting such a big upper body pump..realized after I’d taken two caps pre-workout.
-3 caps were done once before a cardio only session that showed lowered RPE and HR for the same output as 2 weeks prior and one normal training session.
-Days with 4 caps was pretty intense. Not all of my training is pump oriented, but is very Performance oriented. I was worried about “too much” pump. I never really noticed that and noticed a solid ability to push through fatigue.
-2 caps provided a very solid pump, 3 a bit more, and 4 provided more pump, but most noticeably it improved duration of pump and fullness later in the day.
Overall:
This stuff is legit. Even at half dose it is probably better than most pump products out. It’s no secret I am a huge Nitrate fan, but I find the effects of VasoForce XT (and quality Vaso6) to provide better fullness and pump. I’d be interested in longer term use of this to see how the extended use compares to how i find Nitrates and Citrulline benefit my recovery and ability to train harder more frequently, but VasoForce XT provides immediate improvements in muscle pump and endurance, to say the least.
Bonus: I’m not as lean right now so vascularity isn’t insane, but the picture attached was at night 8+ hours post dosing. Vascularity and fullness boosted all day and some new veins (this was only more apparent during training but I didn’t snap any pictures then).
Gotta agree that a pill vs a powder is super convenient for a pump product.I'm still enjoying this immensely, pumps are great, and endurance is improved. I like that pill format too.
same here. I take enough powders and love being able to just wash the pills down with my focus xtGotta agree that a pill vs a powder is super convenient for a pump product.
Keeping both cel swole and sns vaso in a gym bagGotta agree that a pill vs a powder is super convenient for a pump product.
Bonus: I’m not as lean right now so vascularity isn’t insane,
Feel like this is the forum version of having the grim reaper over your shoulder muttering things like this hahaI hate you.
I hate you.
I saw admin quoted me and I was like “oh crap what did I say???”Feel like this is the forum version of having the grim reaper over your shoulder muttering things like this haha
There’s one SNS one CELWait, so there's TWO SNS pump products out?
Sns - vasoforce XT ( caps )Wait, so there's TWO SNS pump products out?
I'd go for superswole if it were meI need some Vaso6 in my life. Keep debating grabbing this or waiting for Super Swole...once my BMP log is done I’m going with one of the two,decisions decisions...
I gotta agreeI'd go for superswole if it were me
Awesome to hear and glad you enjoyed itTried VasoForce XT today for the first time. 4 pills, 20 minutes before workout. I hit chest/tris/shoulders. The pump was godly! Blood engorged the muscles crazily. Became painful (in a good way) at the end, i was so pumped. Awesome product, will reup once I’m out forsure!
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