Same actives, I mean?Is there any difference between the neuro drive stack and Andro Factory's discontinued Focus?
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roughly .66ml of each of the DHEA TD and P5 would be the same dose as Focus and the former AndrDriveSame actives, I mean?
I cant find a product writeup on this stack. Here is a label from Focus:
roughly .66ml of each of the DHEA TD and P5 would be the same dose as Focus and the former AndrDrive
roughly .66ml of each of the DHEA TD and P5 would be the same dose as Focus and the former AndrDrive
roughly .66ml of each of the DHEA TD and P5 would be the same dose as Focus and the former AndrDrive
Right, however it looks like the additions of esters is what makes the actives in Focus potent in the adenal system:since, I have a feeling you're going to tell me they're special DHEA and Pregnenolone
per the label for their (5-Preg) - again, there's just the addition of the ester
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I'm not even going to pull up the chemical sheet for the DHEA as they spell it out on their label, 5-DHEA (DeHydro Epi Androsterone) then again with the ester after
This is something I'll have to investigate in detail, as rapid deesterification occurs. SEDDS can help protect from some of the first pass metabolism, but deesterification also occurs in the blood and tissue. I would be surprised if these esters offer much benefit beyond increasing bioavailability and increasing half-life (neither of these we're terribly concerned with when going TD). But, will gladly do a little research on the topic in specific.Right, however it looks like the additions of esters is what makes the actives in Focus potent in the adenal system:
Steroidal fatty acid esters - PubMed
Several years ago we discovered an unexpected family of steroidal metabolites, steroidal fatty acid esters. We found that fatty acid esters of 5-ene-3 beta-hydroxysteroids, pregnenolone and dehydroisoandrosterone are present in the adrenal. Subsequently, others have shown the existence of these...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Excellent post, thank you.This is something I'll have to investigate in detail, as rapid deesterification occurs. SEDDS can help protect from some of the first pass metabolism, but deesterification also occurs in the blood and tissue. I would be surprised if these esters offer much benefit beyond increasing bioavailability and increasing half-life (neither of these we're terribly concerned with when going TD). But, will gladly do a little research on the topic in specific.
regardless, DHEA and Pregnenolone are both great neuro steroids and our topical P5 has remained the #1 PH at Supplementreviews.com for more than 2 years...
Side note: I also believe the fatty ester is required for the SEDDS delivery system...to make them lipophilic.
The man knows his stuff.Excellent post, thank you.
I'm def placing an order on your site before the sale ends.
I hope so, I bought 5 of the Neuro Drive Stacks earlier tonight, haha...40% off with free shipping (total was like $105) should be enough for 4 or 5 cycles.The man knows his stuff.
Thank you for your order!I hope so, I bought 5 of the Neuro Drive Stacks earlier tonight, haha...40% off with free shipping (total was like $105) should be enough for 4 or 5 cycles.
But yeah, if this stuff really is the same as Focus, hell yeah. Focus was very underappreciated imo.
Thank you for your order!
will be looking forward to your feedback. Those stacks, at that price...pretty amazing deal!
I may recommend to start with .5ml of each and decide after a week if you'd like to up the dosage...can adjust from there.
.5ml of the neuro DHEA and .5ml of neuro preg seems a bit low, tho I get your reason for suggesting I start out at a conservative dose.Thank you for your order!
will be looking forward to your feedback. Those stacks, at that price...pretty amazing deal!
I may recommend to start with .5ml of each and decide after a week if you'd like to up the dosage...can adjust from there.