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Unanswered Am I a Tren Non responder?

Bcuzimbatman

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Hello AM crew.
I’ve recently begun my first bout with Tren A (about 1.5 weeks in) I’m dosing it at a total of 50mg ED together with 600mg of Test E which I’m already 6-7 weeks into. The thing is I don’t feel any of those drastic gains or sides that are apparently so popular with Tren. I’ve had a couple nights of insomnia but that’s not strange for me, a couple moments where body heat went up more than usual but it hasn’t caused night sweats or anything like that. Never had tren cough. And no crazy strength boosts yet. Only changes I’ve noticed is insatiable carb cravings, vascularity seems to be up and muscle hardness too but all those could be attributed to the test kicking in. I lab max tested the Tren out of fear and it showed well on the color test and light test. Any idea what’s going on?
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
Hello AM crew.
I’ve recently begun my first bout with Tren A (about 1.5 weeks in) I’m dosing it at a total of 50mg ED together with 600mg of Test E which I’m already 6-7 weeks into. The thing is I don’t feel any of those drastic gains or sides that are apparently so popular with Tren. I’ve had a couple nights of insomnia but that’s not strange for me, a couple moments where body heat went up more than usual but it hasn’t caused night sweats or anything like that. Never had tren cough. And no crazy strength boosts yet. Only changes I’ve noticed is insatiable carb cravings, vascularity seems to be up and muscle hardness too but all those could be attributed to the test kicking in. I lab max tested the Tren out of fear and it showed well on the color test and light test. Any idea what’s going on?
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Huh.....
I'd give it some more time, then.
... Or if you're bold... Up it just a hair.
 
Seriously though, figure out where it gives you sides and then walk it back a cunthair.
 
Tren isn't that drastic, comparing it with an oral steroid and the later will yield significantly quicker gains. Tren is very efficient for cutting or recomp and if adding an oral steroid like anadrol and it just changes the whole cycle.

Yes you can bulk on tren only (not counting test) but you need to eat a lot more as the metabolism /nutrient partioning is so high. Lastly I'd rather lower the gear and increase tren, 300-400 each is where its at. Now with higher dosages, especially 400 and up tren can be a bitch.

There is no such thing as non responder, it's a myth created by people who don't see results during a specific cycle. Genetics diet and training compound and dosage is what makes the difference. You're not gonna have a guy that grows better on epistane than anadrol, it just won't happen regardless how many times the person has used anadrol.
 
Chados said:
Tren isn't that drastic, comparing it with an oral steroid and the later will yield significantly quicker gains. Tren is very efficient for cutting or recomp and if adding an oral steroid like anadrol and it just changes the whole cycle.

Yes you can bulk on tren only (not counting test) but you need to eat a lot more as the metabolism /nutrient partioning is so high. Lastly I'd rather lower the gear and increase tren, 300-400 each is where its at. Now with higher dosages, especially 400 and up tren can be a bitch.

There is no such thing as non responder, it's a myth created by people who don't see results during a specific cycle. Genetics diet and training compound and dosage is what makes the difference. You're not gonna have a guy that grows better on epistane than anadrol, it just won't happen regardless how many times the person has used anadrol.
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I don’t want to drop the test because In case the Tren is bunk I have a como coming up in June and at least want the high test in my system. I think I’ll do what was quoted and wait a little longer to see if it just hasn’t really kicked in. After 2.5 weeks if there is still no change I’ll raise it a tad and check again
 
Bcuzimbatman said:
I don’t want to drop the test because In case the Tren is bunk I have a como coming up in June and at least want the high test in my system. I think I’ll do what was quoted and wait a little longer to see if it just hasn’t really kicked in. After 2.5 weeks if there is still no change I’ll raise it a tad and check again
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Well 200mg tren isn't that much and a much stronger compound than test. Had you switched to 600mg tren and 200mg test you'd see a huge difference. I never recommended to go above 300-400mg of tren though as it can be really tough to deal with. I'm just saying not to expect some insane amount of weight gain on that cycle
 
Chados said:
Well 200mg tren isn't that much and a much stronger compound than test. Had you switched to 600mg tren and 200mg test you'd see a huge difference. I never recommended to go above 300-400mg of tren though as it can be really tough to deal with. I'm just saying not to expect some insane amount of weight gain on that cycle
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It’s 50mg a day. That puts me at 350 a week
 
Chados said:
Ah every day, I thought eod. Well that dosage is fine and you should see results around week 4 I'd say and more so weeks 6-10. The first weeks you might notice a slight change.
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Wow, that long... running Ace? I just figured it would be quicker.
 
The dose is PLENTY.
A few things I would keep in mind.
1. 80% of ugl gear is either bunk, underdosed or the wrong hormone completely. Chance its bunk is exceptionally high.
2. There is no such thing as a tren non responder.
3. No steroid is magic. If your injecting aas and waiting for them to work your in for a surprise. AAS dont work, YOU do.
Not sure what your training, diet, sleep, hydration etc are like but my guess is they could use improvement.
Start a training program that calls for weekly progress. DC/Doggcrapp is my fav.
Progressively increase calories as well.
Sleep alot.
You will grow regardless of aas or no. AAS will just assist you in growing faster.
 
Renew1 said:
Wow, that long... running Ace? I just figured it would be quicker.
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Well so many favors plays in here besides food, training, dosage, compound and genetics.

Tren and every other steroid works far better at low bodyfat and let's say you're really low fat you'd might notice more veins pump etc. If you're not lean you could see some fullness. Nah injectibles just won't do what orals will during such short time and most strong orals are stronger than any injectible it's just that you don't run them as long and you'd lose a little biovability.

Mostly with injectibles you can notice a change withing 2-4 weeks but it won't be anything that turns you in to monster, just slight changes. Weeks 6-12 will be when it hits hard and if I had to guess I say 6-9 will be the most effective in general and after that it can go a little slower.

It might sound bad to only get a few weeks of full effect so to speak but these weeks will transform you immensely when running tren and say anadrol. There's really not much I'd anything that comes close to it.
 
Chados said:
Well so many favors plays in here besides food, training, dosage, compound and genetics.

Tren and every other steroid works far better at low bodyfat and let's say you're really low fat you'd might notice more veins pump etc. If you're not lean you could see some fullness. Nah injectibles just won't do what orals will during such short time and most strong orals are stronger than any injectible it's just that you don't run them as long and you'd lose a little biovability.

Mostly with injectibles you can notice a change withing 2-4 weeks but it won't be anything that turns you in to monster, just slight changes. Weeks 6-12 will be when it hits hard and if I had to guess I say 6-9 will be the most effective in general and after that it can go a little slower.

It might sound bad to only get a few weeks of full effect so to speak but these weeks will transform you immensely when running tren and say anadrol. There's really not much I'd anything that comes close to it.
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Gotcha.
Thanks brother.
 
Also a short ester really isn't that much faster its just much faster leaving your body. The half life should make ace less anabolic and it should make the longer ester more likely to add water and I think what you'd notice is mostly placebo. Any ester will pack on equal size really because there's so little difference. Ace also normally have more mg in it which kinda counters the less anabolic effect.

What you'd do withing competition is to go from enthanate to ace the last weeks to maximize waterloss and to get it out of your system quickly because normally your body is more effective within sports and better looking about 1 or 2 weeks after you drop the gear because all this bloat, water etc will fall off making you more explosive and leaner.
 
Ive only ever taken tren E and that takes several weeks to kick in since your under two weeks with ace im guessing your problem is you havent been on long enough i think you need to relax and it will hit you soon I lover Tren its by far given me the best changes in muscle physique, if you got good stuff which your test confirms than you just need to be patient and wait.
 
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