I'm solely comparing the fact that both like carnitine is to alc phenylgaba is a modified form of a natural brain chemical and clinically speaking phenibut is not know to cause addiction why? because it's dosed much lower and is taken at the same time daily. If you actually look at the clinical studies there's no serious issues reported due to any side effects including addiction. It's addicts who are overdosing on it that is the problem. It's normally used at 250-500 mg at once upwards depending on the condition. Where addicts are taking 3-10 grams. Yet you're blaming phenibut for these side effects not those oding on it? That's like saying benadryl or cough syrup is dangerous solely because some people overdose on it. No it's not dangerous at studied doses. Idiots overdosing is dangerous.
I am not for the FDA making things illegal per se, but posts like this really lend a lot of creedance to their efforts since it displays the exact issues they are trying to protect against.
You confound things that are not even related by saying ALCAR and Phenibut are at all analogous. You could make a similar argument about ANY chemicals if you tried hard enough. Something like, "The FDA is banning this, but it is just made up of atoms and so isn't water! And we need water! They are trying to take away what we need!"
The fact that you understand a particular chemical trickery used to improve upon the parent molecule is great, but it doesn't mean anything beyond that.
Just because one modified neurochemical has particular effects and safety profile does not mean that another neurochemical modified in a similar way has the same effects or safety profile.
You are also taking a study with controlled dosing and then extrapolating that into the wild where people will be self administering.
Perhaps a better analogy on your side of the argument would have been Tylenol - since this gets used in hospitals and studies quite often with very few incidents under controlled administration, yet it sends more people to the hospital when self administered than almost any drug. So why is tylenol not controlled?
Except, again, this overlooks a number of factors. Tylenol for one, has plenty of experience and research demonstrating particular benefits and a definite safety profile. Notice I didn't say safe - safe is kind of a moving target. We know how to set limits on tylenol to reduce issues, what issues it creates, how to treat them, etc.
Phenibut and DMHA simply lack the research that has yielded this knowledge. We don't have a definitive safety profile for these drugs.
But equally as important, at least for phenibut, is that we know it quickly builds tolerance. This is seen in studies and in the real world.
And tolerance can be good with controlled dosing where the effects we are looking for aren't something we need to conciously notice.
But with self administration in a group of people who want acute effects, that is a recipe for disaster.
And Tylenol, cough syrup, benedryl, etc. - none of these examples have tolerance and escalation issues like phenibut.
I am not arguing that phenibut is dangerous per se, and yeah it CAN be used responsibly - but you can say the same for most opioids as well. The fact is, even a moderate amount of research into people's real world experiences will show that it has tremendoud abuse potential and people who have gone through withdrawals from it will tell you it was horrible.
Add to this the fact that a number of the products with phenibut in them are proprietary formulas with limited dosing info and it becomes even more difficult to figure out if what you are doing is reasonable.
Don't get me wrong, I have used phenibut and liked it. I don't want it taken away. I am sure others can use it responsibly as well. I also know the general population will run into big problems with it. I mean, look at your post and the lack of any recognition that the mere fact it induces rapid tolerance is bad juju...and you are probably more educated than 90% of the people that walk into a store and buy this stuff.