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Donald Trump running for president

Aleksandar37 said:
I don't think the Obama administration was clean, but they followed the rulings of this person who had served for 18 years, including under Obama and Bush. 25 times they denied clearance and the Trump administration overruled to give security clearance, but your first concern is what about Obama?
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my 1 and only point is trump is under much more scrutiny than Obama was. it is my heartfelt opinion that Obama was given a pass for his errors in judgement, while those same people giving Obama a pass are looking for reasons to nail trump.

you are probably going to disagree but that's ok, we've disagreed before, lol.
 
thebigt said:
my 1 and only point is trump is under much more scrutiny than Obama was. it is my heartfelt opinion that Obama was given a pass for his errors in judgement, while those same people giving Obama a pass are looking for reasons to nail trump.

you are probably going to disagree but that's ok, we've disagreed before, lol.
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By who? Because some actors and liberal arts students prefer Obama, that means he got a pass on everything that he did? You could also say the same people giving Trump a pass were and still are looking for reasons to blame Obama. You're giving Trump a pass right now and asking about Obama which has been the case with every single thing I've presented about Trump. A simple search will show that there were whistleblowers under Obama as well, but when it came to security clearance, he followed the advice of experts and didn't hand out passes to family and friends. And Trump lied about it when he said that he never got involved in the process.
 
ax1 said:
I dont trust anything he does, he is one intelligent calculating precise executioner. Bradly Manning should be forever praised for what he did though. He is in big trouble again though, feel bad about it.
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You don't have to trust his reasons, but it still happened lol
 
Aleksandar37 said:
By who? Because some actors and liberal arts students prefer Obama, that means he got a pass on everything that he did? You could also say the same people giving Trump a pass were and still are looking for reasons to blame Obama. You're giving Trump a pass right now and asking about Obama which has been the case with every single thing I've presented about Trump. A simple search will show that there were whistleblowers under Obama as well, but when it came to security clearance, he followed the advice of experts and didn't hand out passes to family and friends. And Trump lied about it when he said that he never got involved in the process.
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hey, you know I fess up to being a trumpster...I won't deny I hated/hate Obama either.


won't deny being a CHER fan either, lol.
 
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thebigt said:
hey, you know I fess up to being a trumpster...I won't deny I hated/hate Obama either.


won't deny being a CHER fan either, lol.
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There's a difference between supporting a President and blindly choosing a man over the Constitution and national security.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
You don't have to trust his reasons, but it still happened lol
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My first reaction when it happened was that they are both releasing a fairly harmless person back out in society with no more access to confidential material and at the same time hope that they can get a fly trap out of it. A 2nd reasoning would have been just a bonus, but catering to the voter base via all supporters of the gay community.

He needs to get the hell out of this country and be roommates with Snowden or something, its possible they either got their leads or decided their taps on him have been exhausted so now they are trying to force him to talk and probably throw him back in behind bars.

This is just my own analysis, no Snopes today, lol
 
Aleksandar37 said:
There's a difference between supporting a President and blindly choosing a man over the Constitution and national security.
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there is also a difference between being pro trump and being a democrat...I am just fine supporting trump as long as he goes against any and everything democrats want to do.

are you aware of the hairbrained schemes the democrats are proposing?

if my choice is trump or democrats-GO TRUMP!!!
 
ax1 said:
My first reaction when it happened was that they are both releasing a fairly harmless person back out in society with no more access to confidential material and at the same time hope that they can get a fly trap out of it. A 2nd reasoning would have been just a bonus, but catering to the voter base via all supporters of the gay community.

He needs to get the hell out of this country and be roommates with Snowden or something, its possible they either got their leads or decided their taps on him have been exhausted so now they are trying to force him to talk and probably throw him back in behind bars.

This is just my own analysis, no Snopes today, lol
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That's all quite possible, except he (now she) would not last long alive in Russia.
 
thebigt said:
there is also a difference between being pro trump and being a democrat...I am just fine supporting trump as long as he goes against any and everything democrats want to do.

are you aware of the hairbrained schemes the democrats are proposing?

if my choice is trump or democrats-GO TRUMP!!!
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Criticizing a republican doesn't make you not a republican or a democrat. This isn't just about Trump; it's about all 25 of those flagged as risks and national security. But hey, when Kushner's buddy funds another 9/11, at least you can say that you never said anything bad about Trump or his decisions.
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Criticizing a republican doesn't make you not a republican or a democrat. This isn't just about Trump; it's about all 25 of those flagged as risks and national security. But hey, when Kushner's buddy funds another 9/11, at least you can say that you never said anything bad about Trump or his decisions.
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for me it is trump against the democrats and what they want to do...whatever bad trump might do pales in comparison to what democrats want to do.
 
thebigt said:
for me it is trump against the democrats and what they want to do...whatever bad trump might do pales in comparison to what democrats want to do.
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Well we'll just have to wait to agree when the next President is from Indiana. Pretty sure he likes Cher as well lol
 
Did we skip over the part where Trump said it is a good thing the US isn't powered by wind energy because it doesn't blow all the time? Political policies aside, the dude really needs to let people proof read his statements so he can atleast act like he knows what he is talking about lol
 
rascal14 said:
Did we skip over the part where Trump said it is a good thing the US isn't powered by wind energy because it doesn't blow all the time? Political policies aside, the dude really needs to let people proof read his statements so he can atleast act like he knows what he is talking about lol
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This is also the guy who criticizes Venezuela for starving its people and Dump responds by helping them starve quicker by cutting off their economy with heavy sanctions. He also criticizes Iran for being an oppressive regime and then selling bombs to the Saudi Arabian Princess who is using them to continue to act out genocide in Yemen creating the world's biggest human catastrophe in the globe today. Thanks Dump!!!! Makerrrrr Merica Great Again!
 
rascal14 said:
Did we skip over the part where Trump said it is a good thing the US isn't powered by wind energy because it doesn't blow all the time? Political policies aside, the dude really needs to let people proof read his statements so he can atleast act like he knows what he is talking about lol
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Not surprising since he keeps telling people that his father was born in Germany when he wasn't lol Invalid Link Removed
 
Aleksandar37 said:
Did he show Trump trying to say "origin" repeatedly as well? I saw a clip of that earlier and it was painful.
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He was all over the oranges, lol. I love him, I finally have a guy who replaces Leno. Leno will always be my #1, but Colbert finally has a good Niche and Dump saved his career!! I was never really a fan of his old show, but he won me over on late night TV and helps me go to bed in a better mood.
 
Ari Gold said:
Meh. She used to be better too until she got all weird and super political.
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don't get me wrong, I don't like cher's politics...but she gets a grandfathered pass since I liked her before she got political...I had a big crush on cher all the way back to the sonny and cher days.


besides that, when I 1st met my wife she looked just like a young cher.
 
thebigt said:
don't get me wrong, I don't like cher's politics...but she gets a grandfathered pass since I liked her before she got political...I had a big crush on cher all the way back to the sonny and cher days.


besides that, when I 1st met my wife she looked just like a young cher.
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You’re showing your age... 🤪
 
big thumbsup for sunshine, loving it!!!

73% and sunny here!!!:cool:
 
the American action forum calculates that minimum wage hikes will kill 261,000 jobs--with most of the losses concentrated in new York and California....
 
thebigt said:
the American action forum calculates that minimum wage hikes will kill 261,000 jobs--with most of the losses concentrated in new York and California....
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Which minimum wage hikes? Is this data from a proposed national minimum wage hike? And at a hike to what number?
 
Ari Gold said:
Which minimum wage hikes? Is this data from a proposed national minimum wage hike? And at a hike to what number?
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It's Fox citing a study from a right wing "advocacy group" that actively funds Republican campaigns and ideas, but claims non-profit so that they don't have to show where their money is coming from. I'm sure it's not biased though ;)
 
Double

Edit: was a double, I delete one and both go. Don’t feel like writing all over again. WTH
 
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So this is NYC news but will be nationwide news thanks to a Uber near you!

NYC just pushed as an American first "congestion" pricing as to where they get to charge you $12 for the pleasure of sitting in traffic below 60th street. Invalid Link Removed

I found out that no other than Uber lobbied 2 million dollars to top NYC officials and Albany polititions to push for this new congestion pricing law. They have been pushing hard on this since 2015. And as to why Uber is pushing this? They claim its good for the environment and greenhouse gases and easing traffic. Yet, they are in the business of getting more polluting cars on the street congesting traffic. As to why they would want people to stop driving? DDDdddDuuuUuuuhhhHHHhhhh!!!!!


Now as to why this is important to you guys/gals?

Uber is now pushing 10 million dollars in lobby money to push the law nationwide!!! Invalid Link Removed
 
rob112 said:
Double

Edit: was a double, I delete one and both go. Don’t feel like writing all over again. WTH
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You may have hit the red preview button where the old red post button used to be, I did that too, its a different setup here looked like a double post to me too at first. Now speak darn-it, lol!
 
Ari Gold said:
Which minimum wage hikes? Is this data from a proposed national minimum wage hike? And at a hike to what number?
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Aleksandar37 said:
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It's Fox citing a study from a right wing "advocacy group" that actively funds Republican campaigns and ideas, but claims non-profit so that they don't have to show where their money is coming from. I'm sure it's not biased though ;)
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Aleksandar37 said:
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It's Fox citing a study from a right wing "advocacy group" that actively funds Republican campaigns and ideas, but claims non-profit so that they don't have to show where their money is coming from. I'm sure it's not biased though ;)
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of course it is biased, it's fox right? not that any of the other networks are biased in any way.

supply and demand would have raised wages long ago if they had instituted e-verify and cracked down on hiring of illegals.
 
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Aleksandar37 said:
Looks like Assange wasn't useful anymore.

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Damn, just came in here to post about this you beat me to it!

Feel like someone close to me died. Its strange I feel that way, but thats how I feel at the very moment.
 
No bullshyting when I say this.

Dump pardons Assange = he "might" be the real deal

Dump allows this man to go to prison here in the USA = I was right all along, he with absolute certainly was, is and always will be phony as fuq even when I proclaimed to "love wikileaks."
 
ax1 said:
No bullshyting when I say this.

Dump pardons Assange = he "might" be the real deal

Dump allows this man to go to prison here in the USA = I was right all along, he with absolute certainly was, is and always will be phony as fuq even when I proclaimed to "love wikileaks."
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Let's see if he survives long enough to be extradited first.
 
comrade barry and fraulein Hillary--feat. the merry band of misfits....
 
They will probably extradite him to Sweden as the rape charge is being re-opened, unless they simply hand him over to the US, but "officially" they wouldnt hand him over to a country that supports the death penalty which is comical since the British Government has no problem blowing up babies all over the planet.

His court date is on May 2nd in the UK.

Imho, the British Government is primarily the same bunch of war mongering hooligans the US government is, and the CIA is a branch of MI6.
 
ax1 said:
They will probably extradite him to Sweden as the rape charge is being re-opened, unless they simply hand him over to the US, but "officially" they wouldnt hand him over to a country that supports the death penalty which is comical since the British Government has no problem blowing up babies all over the planet.

His court date is on May 2nd in the UK.

Imho, the British Government is primarily the same bunch of war mongering hooligans the US government is, and the CIA is a branch of MI6.
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I think he could use the 'pentagon papers' defense here in U.S.....but with all that said, do you feel his safety 'life' is in danger while in british custody? I think he would be safe in Sweden, they don't play no reindeer games!!!
 
thebigt said:
I think he could use the 'pentagon papers' defense here in U.S.....but with all that said, do you feel his safety 'life' is in danger while in british custody? I think he would be safe in Sweden, they don't play no reindeer games!!!
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At the moment I dont think they would kill him, it would create a martyr. More importantly I just dont think there is a strategic advantage in doing so, plus they can interrogate him for years and by that I dont necessarily mean by force.
 
thebigt said:
I think he could use the 'pentagon papers' defense here in U.S.....but with all that said, do you feel his safety 'life' is in danger while in british custody? I think he would be safe in Sweden, they don't play no reindeer games!!!
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On another note, I dont know enough about the rape case. If he is truly guilty of that I hope they throw him in the slammer for it, I dont care who he is....I just want that to be in the hands of the Swedish system.
 
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