Tbol vs. Var for cutting

Brain5ick

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So I’m talking to my buddy at the lab right now and I’m getting Primo and DHB (not sure which one I’ll be running for the next 8 weeks though) and either Tbol or Var for this cut. I’m down 33lbs, pretty strong for my size, and gaining a ton of mass isn’t the goal here. Really wanting to lose as much fat as possible for once haha. I have a back injury so the var is looking nice for that, but I remember Tbol sounding really interesting awhile back. I’m also gaining strength and a little size while losing fat on just 300mg of test cyp/prop and androhard, guess I respond rather well ??*♂️. All my lifts are up and I’m hovering around the same weight buuuuut I paid off a beach house for May and I wanna finish strong here. Insight anyone??
 
I just had to make this same decision. Tbol or var for a cut. Probably people on both sides of this coin. Here was my thought process. My main goal with running a cycle during a cut is to prevent as much muscle catabolism as possible. Tbol and var will
Both do that. Var has a reputation of helping to burn more fat, but that’s never been an issue for me. So I chose tbol for one reason. Price. Var is expensive. That’s why I chose tbol.
 
Codybenz said:
I just had to make this same decision. Tbol or var for a cut. Probably people on both sides of this coin. Here was my thought process. My main goal with running a cycle during a cut is to prevent as much muscle catabolism as possible. Tbol and var will
Both do that. Var has a reputation of helping to burn more fat, but that’s never been an issue for me. So I chose tbol for one reason. Price. Var is expensive. That’s why I chose tbol.
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You get what you pay for
 
Var wont help with injury though. It doesn synthesize type 1 collagen fibers. Only deca does that. I wish this myth of var helping with colagen synthesis would go away...
 
Brain5ick
Well done on your recent 33lb weight loss. Real Var is very hard to find (and expensive when you do), but would be better for cutting/hardening. Tbol is great for increasing or maintaining strength, so will help prevent strength/muscle loss. It comes down to what real stuff you can get.

Also, could I just ask, what have you noticed most on Androhard?
 
Slims said:
Brain5ick
Well done on your recent 33lb weight loss. Real Var is very hard to find (and expensive when you do), but would be better for cutting/hardening. Tbol is great for increasing or maintaining strength, so will help prevent strength/muscle loss. It comes down to what real stuff you can get.

Also, could I just ask, what have you noticed most on Androhard?
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Jinsun said:
Var wont help with injury though. It doesn synthesize type 1 collagen fibers. Only deca does that. I wish this myth of var helping with colagen synthesis would go away...
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It does synthesize type 2 and 3 collagen fibers though. Which deca doesn’t. So Deca plus var to heal.
 
Slims said:
Brain5ick
Well done on your recent 33lb weight loss. Real Var is very hard to find (and expensive when you do), but would be better for cutting/hardening. Tbol is great for increasing or maintaining strength, so will help prevent strength/muscle loss. It comes down to what real stuff you can get.

Also, could I just ask, what have you noticed most on Androhard?
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Thanks man! I have a roid test I’m gonna drop it into when it gets here since everything I ordered is faked pretty often.
I went with the Var and primo for the next 8-10 weeks. I’ll be using 5% liver and organ guard with tudca for support.
With the androhard I’ve had a little increase in strength, pretty good mood, sex drive went way up on 16 pumps per day but I’m noticing now that I’m on my 6-7th week of it my interest in sex is down, but that may be attributed to how damn busy I am anymore working 3 jobs plus training. Morning wood isn’t as frequent either but idk what that should be attributed to. Aggression is up, feeling a little more confident, slightly shorter fuse than usual a little more vascular for sure, and I sweat a lot more than usual. I actually really enjoy it but when I get the var and all I won’t be taking it any longer just to see if there’s a change in my interest in sex.
 
OH! I almost forgot, I shed like a dog on it. That is totally worth mentioning haha. It’s not noticeable by looking at me but my hair is a little longer and when I wash it I notice I’ll have a bit of hair on my hands.
 
Brain5ick said:
Thanks man! I have a roid test I’m gonna drop it into when it gets here since everything I ordered is faked pretty often.
I went with the Var and primo for the next 8-10 weeks. I’ll be using 5% liver and organ guard with tudca for support.
With the androhard I’ve had a little increase in strength, pretty good mood, sex drive went way up on 16 pumps per day but I’m noticing now that I’m on my 6-7th week of it my interest in sex is down, but that may be attributed to how damn busy I am anymore working 3 jobs plus training. Morning wood isn’t as frequent either but idk what that should be attributed to. Aggression is up, feeling a little more confident, slightly shorter fuse than usual a little more vascular for sure, and I sweat a lot more than usual. I actually really enjoy it but when I get the var and all I won’t be taking it any longer just to see if there’s a change in my interest in sex.
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Nice.
That's the combo I was going to recommend.
 
Brain5ick said:
Should be interesting. Since neither of those aromatize I shouldn’t need to increase my AI but since they’re DHTs should I lower my AI?
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Possibly, because of the Primo. But you'll need to guage how it goes, on your own.
I would think so, but everyone's results are different.
 
Renew1 said:
Possibly, because of the Primo. But you'll need to guage how it goes, on your own.
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My estrogen was at 40pg with 1.25mg of adex a week and I upped it to .5mg three times a week and my acne and all went away but my sex drive was much higher before. Might take it back down gradually.
 
So as I’ve read, primo and var are going to mess my cholesterol up a bit. What is the best way to keep my good cholesterol up? As well as lower my bad after this cycle?
 
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