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7,8 BENZO PLUS SUSTAIN APLHA/DERMACRINE

thebigt

thebigt

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I got a beta-bottle of iron legion's 7,8 benzo to try out...for general info it is the natural AI included in both dermacrine and sustain alpha. I usually apply 4 pumps of sustain, but will instead be using 3 pumps of sustain and .5ml of 7,8 benzo. I will be using my usual 4 pumps of dermacrine.



iron legion 7,8 benzo is 35mg per ml.
delsolrob
 
I've been off sustain alpha and dermacrine for about a month after finishing a 3 month run of both.


today is day 4, already I feel the natural energy enhancement from dermacrine and the libido boost from sustain is starting to rear it's head.

as of now it's too early to tell any difference from adding the 7,8 benzo.
 
Sub a dub dub
 
DAY 5

putting 4 pumps dermacrine on neck/shoulders/clavicle

putting 3 pumps sustain alpha on inner thighs/lower ab region

putting .5ml 7,8 benzo on ribcage area


mood and natural energy/endurance have already seen improvement...libido is very good plus I seem to have a more enjoyable 'ending' when using sustain.
 
Damn. In to see this.
 
superman2113 said:
Subbed in to see if you see a difference in adding the 7, 8 Benzoflavone.
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DAY 6

yes, today I noticed a huge jump in libido, above and beyond what I would expect from my usual 4 pumps of sustain alpha-remember I cut my dose from 4 pumps to 3.

probably to soon to see any other possible difference.
 
DAY 7


the usual affects from dermacrine/sustain are starting to happen....mood/confidence/endurance/energy/feel good effect.


but the boost in libido is well above what I would expect only 7 days in. after this mornings workout veins were popping more than i'm used to seeing, and workout went really well-no increase in strength but more motivation-got more done than I planned on doing.
 
DAY 8

the libido spike is incredible....no hype---7,8 benzo is a fantastic libido booster---my bedroom performance last night called for a encore!!!
 
being on 100mg/week of testosterone, are you not on anastrozole? if no (not all need ai since not high aromatizers, especially at 100mg) then doctor/blood must be happy with in-range e2, yes? so you trying to push it lower with natty 7,8 "ai"? male libido usually tied to e2 level, with higher in-range usually giving better result (along with lipids, joints, etc...). since on trt with doctor - standard of care is at least 2 blood tests per year - what was last e2 level? when next bloodtest - would be cool if while using natty "ai" to compare.
 
DaeshDontSurf said:
being on 100mg/week of testosterone, are you not on anastrozole? if no (not all need ai since not high aromatizers, especially at 100mg) then doctor/blood must be happy with in-range e2, yes? so you trying to push it lower with natty 7,8 "ai"? male libido usually tied to e2 level, with higher in-range usually giving better result (along with lipids, joints, etc...). since on trt with doctor - standard of care is at least 2 blood tests per year - what was last e2 level? when next bloodtest - would be cool if while using natty "ai" to compare.
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anytime my bloods are out of range they get flagged...I've gotten flagged on several things in the past but never estrogen[e2]. I go thru the VA and only get tested once a year--I've been on trt close to 10 years now. no prescribed AI.

there are exceptions to male libido being tied to higher estrogen...take for example formestane, I think 7,8 benzo falls into that exception category--I have no clue what actual affect it is having on my estrogen without bloods but I do know what affect it is having on libido-outstanding!!!
 
thebigt said:
anytime my bloods are out of range they get flagged...I've gotten flagged on several things in the past but never estrogen[e2]. I go thru the VA and only get tested once a year--I've been on trt close to 10 years now. no prescribed AI.

there are exceptions to male libido being tied to higher estrogen...take for example formestane, I think 7,8 benzo falls into that exception category--I have no clue what actual affect it is having on my estrogen without bloods but I do know what affect it is having on libido-outstanding!!!
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Certain AIs are likely to have some degree ER binding either directly or via a metabolite or both. I'd bet 7,8-benzoflavone falls into that third category.
 
nostrum420 said:
Certain AIs are likely to have some degree ER binding either directly or via a metabolite or both. I'd bet 7,8-benzoflavone falls into that third category.
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the libido boost feels very similar to formestane. I would appreciate your thoughts on the comparison.
 
I think tomorrow I will take a day off from dermacrine/sustain alpha and use a full 1ml of 7,8 benzo.
 
thebigt said:
the libido boost feels very similar to formestane. I would appreciate your thoughts on the comparison.
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I think Formestane has good affinity for 5a-reductase so, as much as it's reducing estrogen it may also be reducing DHT as much or more. So, you're getting a similar balance of AR and ER activity just in a different way.
 
nostrum420 said:
I think Formestane has good affinity for 5a-reductase so, as much as it's reducing estrogen it may also be reducing DHT as much or more. So, you're getting a similar balance of AR and ER activity just in a different way.
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outstanding...I can't help but think I am getting similar libido boost from the 7,8 benzo that I got from formestane...I really loved formestane but since it's gone I think I have found next best thing.....plus having just turned 60 a reduction in estrogen plus reduction in dht sounds like win-win!!!



really appreciate your input, thank you!!!
 
couldn't tell much difference in just one day, will try going with 1ml 7,8 benzo again tomorrow.
 
2nd day of 1ml 7,8 benzo solo...could feel a drop off in effects today, didn't feel as energetic/motivated and mood wasn't as high, but libido remained on the high side....this was to be expected, the 4 pumps of derma and 3 pumps of sustain have got to contain at least as much 7,8 benzo as .5ml.

tomorrow I will go back to 4 pumps derma/3 pumps sustain/.5ml 7,8 benzo, I love how this is making me feel!!!
 
yeah, I've found my sweet spot. 4derma 3sustain .5ml 7,8benzo is very nice-energetic, mood is high, feel good, leaning out, feeling strong and libido is very high.
 
another great day today, I feel great!!!
 
starting to see some leaning going on, but so far the highlight of this stack has been the feel good affect and the major boost in libido.
 
really crappy weather here last few days, rainy and windy with overcast sky and not much sun to speak of, but my mood has been very good and libido is insane, especially for a guy who just turned 60 in sept!!!
 
Weather at our age seems to take a toll on us more than the younger chaps.
 
at .5ml with 3 pumps sustain my libido is much higher than what I would expect from 4 pumps sustain without the 7,8 benzo. going to say that 7.8 benzo is a legit libido booster.
 
7,8 benzo is going to be released soon as a standalone product....be on the lookout.

there is a naming poll going on in company promotions section...check it out!!!
 
How soon? Before bogo is over? I was about to pull the trigger on sustain alpha and virtus. Thinking this may be a better stack. Thoughts?
 
dukes3577 said:
How soon? Before bogo is over? I was about to pull the trigger on sustain alpha and virtus. Thinking this may be a better stack. Thoughts?
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I will tell you this...3 pumps sustain and .5ml of 7,8 benzo is VERY GOOD...unfortunately i'm not sure if the 7,8 benzo is for sale at site yet...I was beta testing... delsolrob

the good news is you can get 2 bottles of sustain alpha for the price of 1 and get the 7,8 benzo later on--i'm pretty sure the price point of the 7,8 benzo will be very reasonable.
 
Praying bogo good through this Friday payday! Going to snag 2 sustain and two laxo after reading the reviews. Then some 7, 8 benzo when it drops!
 
dukes3577 said:
Praying bogo good through this Friday payday! Going to snag 2 sustain and two laxo after reading the reviews. Then some 7, 8 benzo when it drops!
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I thought bogo ended yesterday but banner is still up on site...maybe you will get lucky?
 
Just read your log because of your bump and it looks interesting. So, is there still something coming out in the near future? Shouldn't this be easy to bring out as single ingredient, because it's already part of sustain alpha?
 
uncle-rico said:
Just read your log because of your bump and it looks interesting. So, is there still something coming out in the near future? Shouldn't this be easy to bring out as single ingredient, because it's already part of sustain alpha?
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