Matthersby
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So, @50mg, is 6 weeks feasible? I was already going 5. Lethargy is very minimal. I want to get as much as I can out of the Dbol.
Matthersby‘s mission: 50lbs by 2019. Slin,NPP,Dbol and lots more.
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Smont
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I don't see why not, I think 6 weeks is perfect for most orals. With a few exceptions. Back in the day guys ran dbol for much longer. Not recommending that but just some food for thought.
Matthersby
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Ya I’ve ran it a lot, just never gone over 5 weeks. It’s one of the few that I don’t want to stop usually since appetite is unaffected and lethargy is low. Always love the optimistic high dopamine feel of Dbol.
bigbeaph
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6 weeks @ 50mg dbol I get....but blue hearts you said, right? Your a beast haha! I can get away great on 30mg of those bad boys
Matthersby
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I’m trying but it’s Arizona. I am enjoying this way too much. The weight isn’t coming as fast as I’m used to but I’m gonna have to keep eating dirtier and more all day everyday. I can get 6 fo sho. Moving some weight finally back toward 250 on incline and using the max curl bar for 16 today. Love the strength finally.
Matthersby
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So ya, reduced Letro to .625 eod, and now I’m 234. Was dosing it too high. But ate a steak, chicken salad, 5 protein bars, 10 granola bars, 2 chicken and beef burritos, and a pound of gummy worms and Gatorade. It’s 730 here and I’ve easily had 300 grams of protein and 600 carbs so far.
40iu’s of Lantus is fantastic for me on a bulk.
40iu’s of Lantus is fantastic for me on a bulk.
Matthersby
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There’s got to be some truth to receptor saturation or desensitization. Even though it’s only been 7 months, I’ve blasted almost nonstop. Every time I want to go back down to a cruise, I’ve checked labs and cholesterol /lipids, H&H, are all practically in range, so I cruise for a week or two, and start another injectable. Maybe My doses have been low enough and haven’t made a huge impact. But my response to compounds hasn’t been dramatic. I don’t really expect it to though, but just how the body adapts to stimulus from resistance training, I feel it does to consistent aas use. I’m going to be forced to cruise after this run just to get health markers perfect, but also to somewhat reset my response to drugs. I’m not complaining. 12 pounds in under 3 weeks isn’t bad. I know 6 is water but that’s always the case with Dbol. If I can eat like I did yesterday again and again, 25 lbs by the end of this run would be feasible.
Hyde
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Danger Dave told me that the guru he was working with always said 8 weeks was the optimal amount of time off if receptor cleaning/myostatin lowering is the goal. Health markers are individual obviously.
Just broscience, but it makes sense to me. It’s not that hard to cruise for 8 weeks lol
Just broscience, but it makes sense to me. It’s not that hard to cruise for 8 weeks lol
Matthersby
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Absolutely. I need to milk this for 6week/Dbol 9week/NPP. And just drop to 200/Test for 8 weeks. Lantus on training days only. And then I’m thinking Superdrol and Tren. But not certain yet. I think the last 6-7 months I’ve pushed my receptors as far as they can go just cruising Trest and then dienolone etc. time for a break with A lot of food. I’d be thrilled to go into the cruise at 245-50 and try to hold a good bit of that.
Matthersby
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Gotdam! What’s all on that?!
Toren
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Mozzarella, Edam and old cheddar cheese. Tomato sauce and creamy garlic sauce. Spinach and sauteed onions. German salami. Cayenne and black pepper spices.
Damn, it was good. Too small though. I literally inhaled it. Thank god my GF is not here tonight. That greedy little woman would have wanted half of that.
Newth
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OMG, you did not, lol.
I started testing my BG with different carbs today....yep, meal one, oats...just ate meal two, white toast....then you made me look at that.....nice.
Toren
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Hmmmm. It's not real? It's just a prop?
Newth
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Yeeees, the perfect prop for planning dinner.
Matthersby
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My gf is at her Coast Guard drill, so it’s me, my kids and her kids. I keep making them pizzas and beef burritos and triple meat sandwiches just to eat it all myself when they barely eat any. My pizza was shyt compared to yours. Some 3.99 generic double pepperoni grocery frozen pizzas
DemntedCowboy
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Come on man. You cant make a fresh pizza?
Matthersby
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Helllllllllz no. 5,8,10,12 year old boys. Detailed my 4Runner, 2 loads of laundry, 2 loads of dishes, 2 haircuts, 1 football practice and 2 trips to the grocery store. And some other household shyt without my woman here splitting it all up. They get frozen pizza, veggie tray, and teriyaki chicken w rice. No gourmetazz pizza for those little rugrats.
DemntedCowboy
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I feel you. I remember when my older ones where still at the house and my wife would go to her mothers for the weekend. I was stuck with 21, 14, 13, and newborn. So glad they are 28, 22, 21, and 8 now. 3 are out of the house and we only got 1 left
Toren
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Damn, now I'm craving tacos. It was either going to be tacos or pizza tonight.
I used to buy this frozen pizza from the store a few years ago. It was Bernatello's Deluxe pizza and it was damn good for a frozen pizza. It was about $3.00-3.50 for a large pizza. I honestly thought the grocery store was buying them on the black market or maybe they were being made in a sweatshop somewhere. Really good for such a cheap price.
Toren
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Sounds like you have your hands full, bro.
I don't know. Maybe the boys should have detailed the 4Runner if they wanted to eat dinner. Lol. There's no laws against that is there? :]
DemntedCowboy
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Nope there aint.
Matthersby
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Those kids can’t even clean their buttholes.
Newth
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I'm pretty sure thats standard with this generation.
jrock645
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Question is... who or what is to blame and how do we fix it?
swimfan65
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I might have beat you in calories today...but keep at it my friend
Toren
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I blame the Youtube. Kids today don't actually need to do anything. They just watch a video of someone else doing it, and they're experienced.
PoSiTiVeFLoW
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Well it's a confluence of factors... In the US it's worse than other countries.
1.) Sugar, fat laided and alcohol laiden food system. Not enough real food in grocery stores.
2.) Industrial chemicals like detergents (for example) that can act as estrogen mimcs. There's a number of these chemicals and they contribute to desexing of men.
3.) Removal and lack of PT in schools. Some schools are fixing this, but still.
4) more, other factors...
Newth
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Political correctness and a few ego shattering midlife crisis'.
Matthersby
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My contribution is what I teach my kids every day I have them.
- The world owes you nothing
- Everything you have is a privilege
- You will suck at everything unless you spend hours a day working at it to be the best at it.
- Those in authority over you, you show fcking respect to,even if they don’t deserve it.
- Everything is your own fault, take accountability for it, and move forward
- Excuses are the punk bytch version of people’s response to authority.
- You may think your pride is important, but it is hands down the most destructive and vile thing that will ever be a part of you.
The End.
- The world owes you nothing
- Everything you have is a privilege
- You will suck at everything unless you spend hours a day working at it to be the best at it.
- Those in authority over you, you show fcking respect to,even if they don’t deserve it.
- Everything is your own fault, take accountability for it, and move forward
- Excuses are the punk bytch version of people’s response to authority.
- You may think your pride is important, but it is hands down the most destructive and vile thing that will ever be a part of you.
The End.
Newth
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That was the best thing I have read to my son in a long time. It was at the end when he hung his head and said "Thats what you tell me, in different words"
Matthersby
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You beat us all on cals bro. I’m trying though. I’ve never had to eat this much to put on weight. I was able to clean eat my way to over 255. Not happening this time. HyperThyroid makes this brutally hard and I’ve been eating some gnarly amounts of fat and sugar to get the last 10 lbs.
Matthersby
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You’re a solid Dad, Newth. I could tell that early on...
Newth
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Cheers bud.
Country
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Well said very well said
christ83189
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Sounds like what im trying to teach mine. My 9 year old though... Kid does not get any of it
Newth
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Teaching them that emotions make things so much harder isn't easy. They need to learn a little effort goes a long way.
christ83189
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Thats the hard part. It takes a ton of effort from me to get a little bit of effort out of him. And that little bit of effort is always accompanied with more effort put into b1tching and moaning about having to put forth a little bit of effort. Really disappointing that my 9 year old is worse with that than my 4 year old. Theyre both pretty bad but you'd expect it from a 4 year old most of the time. By the time they grow up and have jobs though they're not gonna be like this. By that time they're gonna get it if it kills me to make it happen. As much as i hate to admit it, I wasnt taught this growing up. But the fact that i wasnt just given a damn thing helped out. When i hit the real world i learned fast. I dont want my kids to have to learn it the hard way. I definitely dont want my kids to be that person at work that everyone complains about being lazy.
swimfan65
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Yeah, i get that. Im hypo, i can pack on weight like packing a suitcase. I can do 2 pounds a day if i want. I wish i was a little hyper. Wonder how fast that weight will melt off of you once you switch back to maintainece.
Matthersby
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Totally agree. The thought that my 10 and 12 years olds could be those entitled lazy punk highschool/college kids makes me want to puke. The kids that I laugh at in the gym and at the store. Like actually laugh right at them when I walk by them because they are just that ridiculous. Either they think they are as tough as the mumble rap songs they listen to, or they dress more like women then women do, and are certain that we all are being oppressed by our government, they manufacture struggle that isn’t there, especially emotional struggle. “Safe space” bytches..
Honestly, if I can somehow get my kids to work hard at everything they do, always answer someone in authority with something like “absolutely how high would you like that jump to be” own up and take accountability for everything they do, and stay away from drugs, I’d be thrilled.
I’m the kind of Dad that once or twice a day, I think about my kids being bullied, and it puts me into a rage that’s so real, I literally plan out how to brutally assault an 11 year old and their dad, and then how to get away with it so I don’t land in jail. And the kid doesn’t even exist.
Nowadays as they are starting to get older, I want them to be in more and more uncomfortable situations to prepare them for how shytty and difficult life is.
Having kids really through a monkey wrench in my selfish existence...
ELROCK
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Quality post right here ^
Matthersby
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My favorite people are the men like my Dad, who nobody gave a fck about, no one told him they loved him or showed him affection, no one tried to raise him to be a decent person or even cared much about what he did. Yet he excelled at everything, all state wrestler, college, same job for 40 years. And without a doubt the best father a kid could ever hope for. That man didn’t even miss my skateboarding contests, my drumming performances, in fact you could hear him cheering louder than anyone else for me. He never gave up on me when I was a little punk and no matter what was there for me. I’m barely half the father he is. But I fcking try.
Only a real man cares as much as you seem to about your kids future bro...
I’ve seen plenty where that’s the furthest thing from their mind and I don’t understand that at all...
swimfan65
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Any one else want to beat other people's kids? These kids do not fear or respect their parents. I'll be at the store listening to a 30 year old mother trying to explain to a 10 year old throwing a tantrum why they cannot have something. Like exchanging sentences back and forth. What? My mother would have knocked me out in the store and walked away from my unconscious, pain in the ass, body. Kids today feel like they have rights and deserve things at 10...and parents cater to them. It is pathetic. If WW2 happened now, and we had a draft, we would have a fighting force of puss1es...and we would lose.
swimfan65
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Oh...and when did all little kids become fat? Im 44, when i was in middle school, i didnt know a single fat kid. Also, i never even heard of kid having asthma and needing an inhaler. Guess what lady? Your kid gets out of breath from running because hes fat...make some more excusrs for him. We really are raising champions these days
DemntedCowboy
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You should hear my wife and 8 yr old. Then when I get involved my 8 yr old crys, and my wife looks at me and says "Matt, you dont need to be so hard on her"......Um, yes I do. When she is acting like an adult and telling my wife how things are gonna happen. I'm gonna put her back into her place.
DemntedCowboy
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Right. The parents are like, my kids out of breath cause they have allergies. No, they are out of breath because they are fat @$$es and you allow it.
Matthersby
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We’re all so screwed. It’s not just parents, it’s our society. Even the military is training soldiers, without being able to physically touch them, swear at them, or even discipline them harshly. I saw a kid mouth off to a drill sergeant and was refusing to do push ups over it. He should have been knocked off his feet and choked out. How we going to make soldiers that don’t listen to authority and end up getting people killed, and we can’t even teach them through harsh punishment that it won’t be tolerated? It only took one time with me disrespecting my mother, and my Dad put it in my brain that it would never happen again, I’m thankful he did. I learned so quick. Even almost 30 years later, it’s instilled. Had he bribed me with candy to show her respect, it wouldn’t have worked.