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People thoughts on using t3 for cutting down?
LOL how does one consider themself natty when they are supplementing with a hormone? mfg:If your natty I would not go above 25-30mg
Lol I ment like if your not taking anabolics so you don't lose muscleLOL how does one consider themself natty when they are supplementing with a hormone? mfg:
Of course it works better. But op asked specifically for the effects on T3 on cutting, and since i have some experience with the compound as im currently using it, i gave him my opinion/observations in the matter. Imo combining both would have an even greater fat loss effect.I'm willing to bet that actively increasing your NEAT works better than T3
Thank you, I will doOf course it works better. But op asked specifically for the effects on T3 on cutting, and since i have some experience with the compound as im currently using it, i gave him my opinion/observations in the matter. Imo combining both would have an even greater fat loss effect.
Also i've been following your Carnivorous diet log since day 1. I really enjoy reading it. Keep going strong!
I understand your point and totally respect your opinion. As i said i just gave my personal experience and insight on the topic.Thank you, I will do
I am very anti drugs for fat loss. Yes T3 + increasing NEAT would work better. But so would running the entire pharmacy. There has to be a point where you draw the line and for me that is fat loss drugs. I don't think people need it and they are best off not going there. Just my opinion
Nice thing for cutting. But low-card diet is neededPeople thoughts on using t3 for cutting down?
You do not need a low carb diet while on t3. As long as your calories are low enough the amount of carbs don't really matterNice thing for cutting. But low-card diet is needed
Yeah, but if you're on a higher carb/lower protein diet while cutting on t3, you are going to loose a lot of muscle.You do not need a low carb diet while on t3. As long as your calories are low enough the amount of carbs don't really matter
You're right. I just thought that when you meant higher carbs in order to still remain bellow maintenance you might have to reduce the other macros inlc protein. Thats what i meantWho said anything about lower protein diet, Nothing in your post has anything to do with what I said.
You do not need a low carb diet to cut with t3.
I interchange carbs and fats like I would assume most do. I leave protein alone most of the timeYou're right. I just thought that when you meant higher carbs in order to still remain bellow maintenance you might have to reduce the other macros inlc protein. Thats what i meant
Best way to stop rebounding weight gain is not to eat like a slobAnyone had any experience with rebound weight gain after cycle? Best ways to stop if etc?
^ What he said. And keep in mind T3 isn't a miracle drug. It just gives you a little boost.Best way to stop rebounding weight gain is not to eat like a slob
No i asume it's the same dosage. Keep in mind that females are more sensitive to exogenous thyroid hormones, and you may never recover from the thyroid shut down and be on t3 for life. Or so i've heard, im not a physicianWhat kind of dosing for females? I’m assuming we need less than guys do?
At this point, my body isn’t doing what it should, anyway, so T3 for life sounds much better than my current state!No i asume it's the same dosage. Keep in mind that females are more sensitive to exogenous thyroid hormones, and you may never recover from the thyroid shut down and be on t3 for life. Or so i've heard, im not a physician
Have you had blood work? Are you sure T3 is hour issue...if it is then a doc may be willing to guide you.At this point, my body isn’t doing what it should, anyway, so T3 for life sounds much better than my current state!
Thanks for the reply!
Then you dont have any other choice. Start at 50mcg and if it works stay there. Its not a stimulant so your body build a tolerance. 125mcg would be the maximum dosage for me, but see how your body respondsI’ve had bloodwork done in 4 countries now. All in “normal” range, but still symptoms are getting worse and worse. The “eat less, exercise more” but is getting pretty old. If I eat more than 1000 calories a day and work out (both weights and cardio) any less than an hour and a half, I can gain weight by a pound a day. I have followed macro plans, been on meds like phentermine (which was the only thing that worked, but 300-800 Cals a day with a workload like mine was not sustainable and now phentermine doesn’t do anything for me), I’ve worked with bodybuilding trainers, CrossFit trainers, and have seen countless doctors. I don’t care to ever see a medical doctor again, they have done nothing but shame me and tell me I’m a liar as to my workload and caloric intake or tell me to just “accept” my “genetics.” But I’m over it, I just don’t lose fat. And this hasn’t been something I’ve tried to do the last 6 months, or event he last few years. It’s been for the last 17 years. And I’m not wanting to lose weight out of sheer looks. I am a horse trainer and competitor, and I cannot compete at a professional level in my sport at my size.
Testing "normal" is a bit of a cop out....a part of the picture can be normal when the entire picture is not in view. This is why seeing the actual bloodwork is helpful. Doctors always say, "that is normal" but things are not always normal or abnormal.I’ve had bloodwork done in 4 countries now. All in “normal” range, but still symptoms are getting worse and worse. The “eat less, exercise more” but is getting pretty old. If I eat more than 1000 calories a day and work out (both weights and cardio) any less than an hour and a half, I can gain weight by a pound a day. I have followed macro plans, been on meds like phentermine (which was the only thing that worked, but 300-800 Cals a day with a workload like mine was not sustainable and now phentermine doesn’t do anything for me), I’ve worked with bodybuilding trainers, CrossFit trainers, and have seen countless doctors. I don’t care to ever see a medical doctor again, they have done nothing but shame me and tell me I’m a liar as to my workload and caloric intake or tell me to just “accept” my “genetics.” But I’m over it, I just don’t lose fat. And this hasn’t been something I’ve tried to do the last 6 months, or event he last few years. It’s been for the last 17 years. And I’m not wanting to lose weight out of sheer looks. I am a horse trainer and competitor, and I cannot compete at a professional level in my sport at my size.
Will Aces benefit low card diet? Or do we have to start with 2?Nice thing for cutting. But low-card diet is needed
Females tend to tolorate much higher doses of t3 without losing muscle. My buddy competes as a heavyweight and his 115lb gf takes 3x as much as him when getting ready for a showWhat kind of dosing for females? I’m assuming we need less than guys do?
I don't know about mixing other hormones with birth control so I can't comment, regardless I would not start any higher then 50mgSmont, thanks for the insight. I’m also on a progesterone birth control, so it sounds like I will have to dose higher because of that as well.
Ok, so now I’m confusing the f*ck outta myself. I have 100mcg tablets. Mcg is a different dosing than mg. So I’m going to stick with 50mcg or less, correct?? I’m up to 25mcg atm, but feeling nothing. I’m assuming it’s a cumulative thing, or I’m not dosing enough at mcg because it would be a hell of a lot more if it is supposed to be mg.I don't know about mixing other hormones with birth control so I can't comment, regardless I would not start any higher then 50mg
You won't feel much from it unless you OD and get heart palpitations.Ok, so now I’m confusing the f*ck outta myself. I have 100mcg tablets. Mcg is a different dosing than mg. So I’m going to stick with 50mcg or less, correct?? I’m up to 25mcg atm, but feeling nothing. I’m assuming it’s a cumulative thing, or I’m not dosing enough at mcg because it would be a hell of a lot more if it is supposed to be mg.
The higher dose for females is because they don't tend to lose muscle as easy. Thats all.You won't feel much from it unless you OD and get heart palpitations.
The idea that females have a higher tolerance is very questionable. Different people have different tolerances.
Not trying to be combative or come off wrong - but this does not make sense. Typically people take androgens to ward off muscle loss while on T3, and men typically have higher androgen levels than women.The higher dose for females is because they don't tend to lose muscle as easy. Thats all.
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Honesty I can't put up much of a argument, I just see females hold muscle better on it, through personal experience and word of mouth. Could be wrong, it's just what ive seen and herd from friendsNot trying to be combative or come off wrong - but this does not make sense. Typically people take androgens to ward off muscle loss while on T3, and men typically have higher androgen levels than women.
More importantly, the limiting factor is not muscle wasting - which is over estimated anyway - it is cardiotoxicity and shut down. It would make some sense that if women shut down harder they need a larger dose because they shut down fast and compensate better.
Is there any real evidence that women require a higher dose? I am open to it, but there is so much bad info out there about T4 and T3...
You are correct. I made the wrong word choice there.And I never said they require a higher dose, just that they handle it better
You don't really feel t3 it's not like a stim or anythingOk, so now I’m confusing the f*ck outta myself. I have 100mcg tablets. Mcg is a different dosing than mg. So I’m going to stick with 50mcg or less, correct?? I’m up to 25mcg atm, but feeling nothing. I’m assuming it’s a cumulative thing, or I’m not dosing enough at mcg because it would be a hell of a lot more if it is supposed to be mg.