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Too much protein?

AntM1564

AntM1564

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I've been questioning if my protein intake is too high. I did some research, but could not find a concrete answer.

On cycle, how much protein do you consume? I've read 1.5-2 grams of body weight, 1.5-2 grams of lean mass. I have even seen some suggest more.

What is everyone's thoughts on this?
 
I've tried ti find the great answer to your question seemingly before every cycle I've run. Personally, somewhere in the 1-1.5 g per lb. Of bodyweight seems to be the right spot. You can always go higher but I seriously doubt that will result in more muscle. Playing around with carbs seems to help with those gains too....too low and it won't matter how much protein you eat.
 
I don't think macros are that important, more what you eat.. Go around 1.5-2gr on a regular bulk with low carb high fat or low fat high carb.
 
I always did better on a higher protein lower carb diet. But everyone is different but on cycle try to keep yours around 1.5g per lbm or weight if you are under 15%bf
 
There is a thought often repeated saying you actually can get away with consuming less protein on cycle. This is due to your body's ability to be more efficient with the protein that you are consuming.
 
AntM1564 said:
I've been questioning if my protein intake is too high. I did some research, but could not find a concrete answer.

On cycle, how much protein do you consume? I've read 1.5-2 grams of body weight, 1.5-2 grams of lean mass. I have even seen some suggest more.

What is everyone's thoughts on this?
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You can go very high without experiencing any adverse effects on your health. I eat about 300 - 350 grams per day (approx. 1.5 - 1.75 gram per pound of bodyweight)
 
Hercules1982 said:
You can go very high without experiencing any adverse effects on your health. I eat about 300 - 350 grams per day (approx. 1.5 - 1.75 gram per pound of bodyweight)
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Be careful with that statement. Although I believe you are 90 +% correct.....there are records of people having kidney problems.with the doc saying protein intake was too high and cutting protein helped to solve the problem.
 
I think 1.5-2g is total overkill. I mean, how can you ingest 300-400g a day without taking in 2 or 3 shakes? Personally, I'd rather take in .75 of real protein from food, than 1.5% of a mix between whey and food.
 
mikeymike85 said:
I think 1.5-2g is total overkill. I mean, how can you ingest 300-400g a day without taking in 2 or 3 shakes? Personally, I'd rather take in .75 of real protein from food, than 1.5% of a mix between whey and food.
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That's a great point....protein from whey is NOT equal to eggs, chicken breast, etc. I actually did a short cycle taking in 200g protein from shakes and then a couple months later the same aas with nearly 100% protein from whole food. Gained more, stayed leaner, and felt better from the whole foods. However, did have to start drinking acv 3-4 times a day just to allow for my body to comfortably digest everything.
 
I personally keep around 2g per lb bw regardless of on/off cycle or bulking/cutting but the main reason is I simply enjoy a high protein diet - I find it easier to adhere to and I like a variety of sources.

The whole impact on kidneys thing is basically false unless you have underlying kidney problems......the studies that showed the kidneys doing more on high protein diets failed to actually ascertain if ‘doing more’ was bad for them (it isn’t). They simply do what they are designed to do, just to a greater degree.

My view is keep it above 1gr per 1lb min and anywhere above that is all gravy bro
 
Whisky said:
I personally keep around 2g per lb bw regardless of on/off cycle or bulking/cutting but the main reason is I simply enjoy a high protein diet - I find it easier to adhere to and I like a variety of sources.

The whole impact on kidneys thing is basically false unless you have underlying kidney problems......the studies that showed the kidneys doing more on high protein diets failed to actually ascertain if ‘doing more’ was bad for them (it isn’t). They simply do what they are designed to do, just to a greater degree.

My view is keep it above 1gr per 1lb min and anywhere above that is all gravy bro
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Why I said that's correct more than 90% correct. Problem lies with people who dont know they have a problem. Even that Dave Crossland dude, hella smart and on top of his health came to a situation where he had kidney problems and didn't know.
 
bigbeaph said:
Why I said that's correct more than 90% correct. Problem lies with people who dont know they have a problem. Even that Dave Crossland dude, hella smart and on top of his health came to a situation where he had kidney problems and didn't know.
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Yeah agreed (you seen his documentary ‘under construction 2? Awesome watch). To
Be fair crossland was taking a whole lot of stuff for a long long time but yeah if you don’t know you have kidney problems then high protein diets can expose them. My point was simply that it won’t cause them....
 
bigbeaph said:
That's a great point....protein from whey is NOT equal to eggs, chicken breast, etc. I actually did a short cycle taking in 200g protein from shakes and then a couple months later the same aas with nearly 100% protein from whole food. Gained more, stayed leaner, and felt better from the whole foods. However, did have to start drinking acv 3-4 times a day just to allow for my body to comfortably digest everything.
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Amazing- I agree. I've tried a mix between protein bars and whey to supplement, to get up to 1.5g or so--- and now days, I stick around .75g, solely from lean meat, fish, beans..etc. My physique has changed for the better since I do not supplement much with non-food based protein. Granted, I do take a protein shake after workout, but that is usually it.
 
Whisky said:
Yeah agreed (you seen his documentary ‘under construction 2? Awesome watch). To
Be fair crossland was taking a whole lot of stuff for a long long time but yeah if you don’t know you have kidney problems then high protein diets can expose them. My point was simply that it won’t cause them....
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Truth. ^

The kidneys were made for 150 years of high protein abuse.

Add in hypertension, diabetes, chronic kidney disease, or trauma, and high protein intake matched with any one of these, will utterly destroy what’s left of their function.
 
I’m not sure if there is any one right answer to this. The answer depends on your level of activity, what your other macro nutrient intake looks like and if you are taking any “supplements, wink wink”.

A perfect example would be a Keto diet, high fats, low protein, and you don’t experience any catabolic effects. Carbs are also protein sparing. Someone who sits in an office all day, vs someone who does multiple CrossFit workouts need different amounts of protein.
 
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