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Vicious Labs PHs

jrock645 said:
Running the DMZ next month. Hopefully it’s as good as the original was.

Msten is wet, right? Almost like Phera?

Not familiar with lmg
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Msten isn’t wet. It might make you retain a bit of water if your diet allows it, but it wont make you bloat or anything like dbol
 
jrock645 said:
Running the DMZ next month. Hopefully it’s as good as the original was.

Msten is wet, right? Almost like Phera?

Not familiar with lmg
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negative.. its the other way around.. msten tends to be dry, and LMG tends to be a wetter deca type effects.
 
What’d the normal dosage for your dmz? I’ve seen between 2-3 pills per day (aka 30-45mg) for 6-8 weeks? Is this accurate?
 
Sss23 said:
What’d the normal dosage for your dmz? I’ve seen between 2-3 pills per day (aka 30-45mg) for 6-8 weeks? Is this accurate?
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30-45 for 4-6.

Everything I’ve ever taken, I was ready to come off after 4 weeks. I dunno how people do 6. Though I am aiming for 6 with epi and tren in the spring for my big cutdown. But between the cramps and dry joints the last few days, I was always glad when it was over.
 
Sss23 said:
What’d the normal dosage for your dmz? I’ve seen between 2-3 pills per day (aka 30-45mg) for 6-8 weeks? Is this accurate?
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DMZ is kind of harsh after 4-5 weeks. I usually give up by week 5 after running 30-45. I like running Var with low dose DMZ for longer periods. Hdrol is pretty easy to run 6 weeks.
 
I get more sides on dmz as well. Msten is the way to go. 30mg will blow you up, in two weeks you’ll be getting compliments from everyone
 
jrock645 said:
30-45 for 4-6.

Everything I’ve ever taken, I was ready to come off after 4 weeks. I dunno how people do 6. Though I am aiming for 6 with epi and tren in the spring for my big cutdown. But between the cramps and dry joints the last few days, I was always glad when it was over.
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Yup me too! It was really showing it’s magic at week 6 but the cramps and funky feeling are brutal! That’s the downside to PH’s
 
AnabolicGuru said:
The results on orals slow down dramatically after 4-5 weeks, so anything beyond 6 weeks is just stupid anyways.
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Curious to know how you came to this conclusion...?
 
Best run to date involved a stack of DMZ and Msten, though I'm running my first pinning cycle now, so I'm sure that will change. However those two compounds go together well. Also can't go wrong with Zoo and VL. Great service and top notch products.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
That’s just my experience with them. I’ve seen many others state this as well.
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So are you just noticing the scale stop moving at that point?
 
On cycle I train 2x daily with one day off per week as needed. Off cycle 1x per day 4 days per week.
 
I work out 5-6 days per week year round. While on cycle I just up the frequency of my primary lifts. Like right now with my current cycle I squat 3x per week and deadlift 2x per week. Only benching one time because I have bad shoulders.
 
3 days on, 1 day off unless I have to switch it up depending on work and things like that
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Everything quits progressing. Strength, size, etc. There’s no point in putting more stress on the body for such minuscule results.
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Have you tried upping calories when gains slow? That seems to work well..
 
jrock645 said:
So wait is this new product a stck of all three of those compounds, or are these separate products.
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I'm wondering this also. I thought it sounded like they were separate but why would they discontinue DMZ just to make another DMZ? I have to assume they are stacked.
 
boooosted said:
I'm wondering this also. I thought it sounded like they were separate but why would they discontinue DMZ just to make another DMZ? I have to assume they are stacked.
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From what I seen, the new dmz product has more doses per bottle than the cadaver candy did
 
boooosted said:
I'm wondering this also. I thought it sounded like they were separate but why would they discontinue DMZ just to make another DMZ? I have to assume they are stacked.
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Yes separate and the only difference with the dmz is it will be 90 caps at 15mg instead of 75.
 
jrock645 said:
Would anyone stack msten and hydrobol?
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There have been products that stacked Max LMG, DMZ and MSten, and they definitely worked.

In fact I would suggest this combo of compounds is the perfect three for rapid results, in pretty much any combination. They work synergistically, with MSten or DMZ or both combating many progestational sides from Max LMG and water retention. Vicious Labs definitely chose wisely once again in my opinion.
 
Old Witch said:
There have been products that stacked Max LMG, DMZ and MSten, and they definitely worked.

In fact I would suggest this combo of compounds is the perfect three for rapid results, in pretty much any combination. They work synergistically, with MSten or DMZ or both combating many progestational sides from Max LMG and water retention. Vicious Labs definitely chose wisely once again in my opinion.
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Alright im sold... Guess ill run that in January. Im doing dmz and trenadrol next month.
 
mikeymike85 said:
Is MSten really drier than DMZ? If so, I may never run DMZ ever again...and it's my fave compound.
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I’m really curious about Msten. Supposedly drier and more mass gains. DMZ seems to shine in the recomp category, and a lot of the weight gain sounds like glycogen uptake. Been so long since I used it I can’t remember. Msten sounds like a less harsh Superdrol.
 
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