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VECTOR pre release leaks and info

resrch3d said:
What about nootrol, that's another staple I use?
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Will not be an issue. I stack nootrol with my vector dose. An increased mind muscle connection using nootrol along with the strength increases with vector = gains!
 
Studhorse said:
No kidding there! there is a crossfit class attached to my gym! bachelor + Crossfit = pretty good time,
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I drove by a couple of CrossFit gyms this past week and OMG!!! These CrossFit girls have meat in all the right places!
 
jgntyce said:
Will not be an issue. I stack nootrol with my vector dose. An increased mind muscle connection using nootrol along with the strength increases with vector = gains!
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I was meaning was the nootrol ok with the buspirone I take, but your right about the vector nootrol combo.

I went ahead and tested nootrol with medecine I'm taking just based on the fact nothing in nootrol should have had an interaction. The only thing I need to really look out for is MAO inhibitors and grapefruit extract or anything that enhances absorbtion. I somewhat titrated nootrol through the day to gauge idmf there would be any interaction. Not the most conventional way of doing things but based on my assertions of the ingredients profile I assumed some risk.
 
shabib67 said:
Would Vector be beneficial during a cut?
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Most definitely quite useful on a cut as it would help to preserve muscle while in a deficit. Heck, I'm gaining muscle in a deficit. My quads are popping, and people are asking me about my arms at work.. one lady actually touched my arm and said 'oh my'.. lol. For real, it's ridiculous.

I'm loving it, and I don't want to stop. I'm not going to.
Adding in Letrone and Viron very soon.
 
justhere4comm said:
Most definitely quite useful on a cut as it would help to preserve muscle while in a deficit. Heck, I'm gaining muscle in a deficit. My quads are popping, and people are asking me about my arms at work.. one lady actually touched my arm and said 'oh my'.. lol. For real, it's ridiculous.

I'm loving it, and I don't want to stop. I'm not going to.
Adding in Letrone and Viron very soon.
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Seconding this
 
justhere4comm said:
Most definitely quite useful on a cut as it would help to preserve muscle while in a deficit. Heck, I'm gaining muscle in a deficit. My quads are popping, and people are asking me about my arms at work.. one lady actually touched my arm and said 'oh my'.. lol. For real, it's ridiculous.

I'm loving it, and I don't want to stop. I'm not going to.
Adding in Letrone and Viron very soon.
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"Adding in Letrone and Viron very soon"
Going to do the same in about 3 weeks.
 
Hello guys
is this product safe? I mean if the ingredients are legit and tested.
I'm an oldschool gym guy who only use creatine and protein.

thanks
 
biscuit@gravy said:
Hello guys
is this product safe? I mean if the ingredients are legit and tested.
I'm an oldschool gym guy who only use creatine and protein.

thanks
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Of course. While the extracts we use are new most of the chemical constituents are well known.
Such as ursolic acid, epicatechin, corosolic acid, chlorogenic acid etc etc etc etc.
Vector is extremely effective and safe.
 
Can vector be used on TRT? I ask because it says it raises red blood cells and test already does that so not sure if I should be concerned may get out of range. I do donate blood now to keep it down.

Also does it cause any water retention or increase BP

Cheers
 
Jbrooks said:
Can vector be used on TRT? I ask because it says it raises red blood cells and test already does that so not sure if I should be concerned may get out of range. I do donate blood now to keep it down.

Also does it cause any water retention or increase BP

Cheers
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I'm on TRT and everything looks good from here using Vector now for 10 weeks.
 
Has anyone else had a steep drop off in strength after the initial strength gains? First few days my lifts exploded and now they seem to be down quite abruptly. I'm 2 weeks in.
 
Hyperfluxe said:
Has anyone else had a steep drop off in strength after the initial strength gains? First few days my lifts exploded and now they seem to be down quite abruptly. I'm 2 weeks in.
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Has anything changed in your diet? etc.?That said, increase sodium intake a little with your water (pre-workout), and remember to take intra-workout if you can. It's possible something is deficient (i.e., sodium) the has an important role in your strength, and potential drop. It could be just those few days because of an imbalance.

Are you taking any other supplements? You very well could be the first I have seen not having an increase in strength that seems to have no end in sight.
 
About to finish my 2 week on vector/folli and despite the fact im cutting i see that strenght is going up...im dosing folli 1x3 and vector 2x3,now i have a question brundel...upping folli doses any chances to have some more benefits or its a waste ??
 
Hyperfluxe said:
Has anyone else had a steep drop off in strength after the initial strength gains? First few days my lifts exploded and now they seem to be down quite abruptly. I'm 2 weeks in.
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That is odd! must be something to do with Sleep, Diet ? Unless you started taking it too deep into your workout and it's time to take a week off.
Being a Natty guy my strength will tell me when it's time to take a week off to rest. (Diminishing returns) Assuming its not related to other environmental factors. IE: Diet, Sleep, Mental stress, lack of focus.
 
Wow hunger is up! Never had a supplement do that before. Ate 2 Whoppers and nothing. Im going to uber eats something to my office now. Week 3
 
Jbrooks said:
Can vector be used on TRT? I ask because it says it raises red blood cells and test already does that so not sure if I should be concerned may get out of range. I do donate blood now to keep it down.

Also does it cause any water retention or increase BP

Cheers
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Im on TRT as are many of the people taking Vector and I have yet to hear of any issues.
 
Hyperfluxe said:
Has anyone else had a steep drop off in strength after the initial strength gains? First few days my lifts exploded and now they seem to be down quite abruptly. I'm 2 weeks in.
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No, generally things continue to rise.
This sounds like something else is going on.
Have you changed anything else?
Getting enough water
Getting enough sleep
Stressed at work or in life
Started any medications or rec drugs

Have you been eating enough? Keep in mind that as you grow you need to feed the muscles. For example lets say a man weighs 180. After a few weeks on Vector his weight increases to 185. If he doesnt eat for 185 (more than 180) then he will see decreased performance, and likely lose the weight. If your goal is to gain you will need to progessively increase calories throughout the cycle to keep up with the gain.
 
Dani93 said:
About to finish my 2 week on vector/folli and despite the fact im cutting i see that strenght is going up...im dosing folli 1x3 and vector 2x3,now i have a question brundel...upping folli doses any chances to have some more benefits or its a waste ??
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I know of people who increase the doses of both foll and Vector. They are for sure stronger at higher doses.
 
Whey said:
Wow hunger is up! Never had a supplement do that before. Ate 2 Whoppers and nothing. Im going to uber eats something to my office now. Week 3
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The good thing about this is your body will use the added cals to build new muscle tissue. This is a part of the Magic.
Increased protein synthesis and glucose uptake coupled with hunger and strength gaines = muscle growth.
 
Not sure but I think Vector10 gets you 10% off at strong supplement shop. They do have it last I checked.
 
Guys I have a doubt!
I have to lower the calories ... I still can not completely clean my abdomen (I remember that I'm only taking two supplements, follidrone2 and Vector, enough - apart from the vitamins-).
What do you advise me to do? low fat (currently I'm 40 grams), or carbohydrates? (high on training days, middle days on rest days) Does vector need fat? I do not know tell me.
I am however a carbohydrate dependent.
Thanks bye!
 
bb333 said:
Guys I have a doubt!
I have to lower the calories ... I still can not completely clean my abdomen (I remember that I'm only taking two supplements, follidrone2 and Vector, enough - apart from the vitamins-).
What do you advise me to do? low fat (currently I'm 40 grams), or carbohydrates? (high on training days, middle days on rest days) Does vector need fat? I do not know tell me.
I am however a carbohydrate dependent.
Thanks bye!
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As long as your calories are below maintenance you should continue to drop fat. Make sure you are hitting your protein every day to maintain your muscle mass. Vector does not need fat in your diet but you do. Keep your healthy fat levels in your diet up. Cut carbs to cut calories
 
Whey said:
Sex drive up, anyone else? I think its the vector
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Difficult to tell but have felt like my test has dropped whilst on Vector. Kinda wish I had bloods done before I started so I can tell, but I hate needles Have felt low and drained and needed more sleep recently, low sex drive and found it difficult to start training. I have had good strength and found the weight a little lighter. Have dropped my calories just slightly since starting Vector but all other supps have remained the same. Looking for a good test boost now.
 
Loving vector, idk if sex drive is over base line, but it’s defeinitely 200% higher than my previous anabolic. Sadly I’ve opted to give the gym a break for a week. I don’t do this often at all, but maybe this is why I should lol. Plus I got some wrist pain that I feel this may give it a chance to go away .
 
AntSoldier said:
Difficult to tell but have felt like my test has dropped whilst on Vector. Kinda wish I had bloods done before I started so I can tell, but I hate needles Have felt low and drained and needed more sleep recently, low sex drive and found it difficult to start training. I have had good strength and found the weight a little lighter. Have dropped my calories just slightly since starting Vector but all other supps have remained the same. Looking for a good test boost now.
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Sounds more like you should have increased your calories honestly. Somehow your weights felt lighter but your motivation to start training wasn't on par. It happens to the best of us honestly. If you start a log id love to pop in and offer any advice and tweaks necessary to help. If I dont know Im telling ya I know some quality guys who dont mind offering input.

Rockzilla said:
Loving vector, idk if sex drive is over base line, but it’s defeinitely 200% higher than my previous anabolic. Sadly I’ve opted to give the gym a break for a week. I don’t do this often at all, but maybe this is why I should lol. Plus I got some wrist pain that I feel this may give it a chance to go away .
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Your body will appreciate the rest!
 
Rockzilla said:
Yeah, your definitely right. What’s even worse is I tweaked my back today at work changing a trash bag lol. It really hurts. My lower back is visibly swollen.
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Gotta hate it when that happens. My back has been tight since yesterday afternoon and i didnt do anything except deadlift yesterday so must have done something wrong there even though i didnt feel it at the time. I hate back pain
 
I'm curious which ingredient in Vector is making me horny? Like f*** man I feel like I can do some crazy s*** right now.
 
I got my blood work back from last month. It’s safe to say Vector didn’t raise testosterone levels in me. I was pretty deep in a Vector run when I had my blood draw. My total T came back about 100 points lower then last year iirc. My Total T came back at 286. Before people start saying it must have lowered my Testosterone I will let you know this is a somewhat normal T level for me. I know it’s low, but I have been sitting in the 300s since getting off TRT.

This really isn’t a surprise to me. I had a feeling Vector doesn’t impact test levels that’s just not it’s primary MOA. It increased appetite and strength that allowed me to gain weight on it. I loved the product and can’t wait to jump back on it.
 
christ83189 said:
Gotta hate it when that happens. My back has been tight since yesterday afternoon and i didnt do anything except deadlift yesterday so must have done something wrong there even though i didnt feel it at the time. I hate back pain
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Well I picked up a 10# bag of grass seed the other day and have had a stiff neck ever since..
At least you can say that you were doing deadlifts! :)
 
ELROCK said:
I got my blood work back from last month. It’s safe to say Vector didn’t raise testosterone levels in me. I was pretty deep in a Vector run when I had my blood draw. My total T came back about 100 points lower then last year iirc. My Total T came back at 286. Before people start saying it must have lowered my Testosterone I will let you know this is a somewhat normal T level for me. I know it’s low, but I have been sitting in the 300s since getting off TRT.

This really isn’t a surprise to me. I had a feeling Vector doesn’t impact test levels that’s just not it’s primary MOA. It increased appetite and strength that allowed me to gain weight on it. I loved the product and can’t wait to jump back on it.
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Liver enzymes and everything else checked out good.
 
ELROCK said:
I got my blood work back from last month. It’s safe to say Vector didn’t raise testosterone levels in me. I was pretty deep in a Vector run when I had my blood draw. My total T came back about 100 points lower then last year iirc. My Total T came back at 286. Before people start saying it must have lowered my Testosterone I will let you know this is a somewhat normal T level for me. I know it’s low, but I have been sitting in the 300s since getting off TRT.

This really isn’t a surprise to me. I had a feeling Vector doesn’t impact test levels that’s just not it’s primary MOA. It increased appetite and strength that allowed me to gain weight on it. I loved the product and can’t wait to jump back on it.
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Thanks for this. It wasn’t marketed as a testosterone booster and never should have been brought up about test boosting properties.
 
Boys everything is going well. Now I'm Vector employee ...
I just need to add a zero-stimulating fat burning product. I'm trying to go into more marked hypocaloric.
An advice? Brundel what do you recommend? Thanks to those who answer me.

ps.
I checked the blood tests,
I have liver enzymes a bit 'high, what can it depend?
I eat 3gr of pro per pound of weight ... can it depend on this?
 
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